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Is It Time To Commit To Ongoing Payphone Availability?

jenningsthecat writes "Public payphones seem headed the way of the dinosaur, as noted here on Slashdot 10 years ago, and again by the CBC earlier this year. Reasons typically cited for their demise are falling usage, (thanks to the ubiquitous cell phone), and rising maintenance costs. But during the recent disaster in NYC caused by Hurricane Sandy public payphones proved their worth, allowing people to stay in contact in spite of the widespread loss of both cellular service and the electricity required to charge mobile devices. In light of this news, at least one Canadian news outlet is questioning the wisdom of scrapping payphones. Should we in North America make sure that public pay phones will always be widely available? (After all, it's not as though they don't have additional value-added uses). And, should their continued existence be dependent on corporations whose primary duty is to their shareholders, rather than to the average citizen?"

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  1. No - Move Forward Instead by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Instead of maintaining a system that is practically obsolete we should put the effort into making the newer system more robust.

    How about building pico-cells into emergency vehicles with some sort of dedicated wireless backhaul? Figure out how to queue access to cell phones so that even if such a system can only handle 5-10 voice calls at once (due to backhaul bandwidth limits), anyone with a basic cell phone can virtually "wait in line" until it is their turn to talk.

    It doesn't have to be limited to emergency vehicles, we could build stand-alone units too that could be battery powered and deployed fairly quickly.

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    1. Re:No - Move Forward Instead by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In other words:
      Don't bother keeping what works working, instead we should spend obscene amounts of money and manpower on some new, theoretical system that may or may not work.

      Uh no. Maybe you haven't noticed but payphones are going away because nobody is willing to spend an obscene amount of money maintaining them because nobody uses them. Meanwhile cell phone usage continues to increase. What i propose is to tweak the system that works 99% of the time so that it works 100% of the time.

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    2. Re:No - Move Forward Instead by dywolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The higher the technology, the bigger the fall when it fails in a disaster.

      you cant overengineer everything, and the more complex/higher tech a thing is, the MORE likely it will fail in a disaster.

      keeping around low tech backups is never bad, and its cheaper too.

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  2. Re:One good reason for a landline by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You also need to remember to keep a non-cordless phone around to use with it. If the power is out and all you have is cordless (as many people do these days), you're still out of luck.

  3. Re:Common emergency problem by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What exactly is wrong with a tax to pay for stuff like this?

    This is exactly the sort of thing government is for.

  4. Re:Common emergency problem by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, I'd rather have my taxes going towards this than many other things. But I think frankly we don't need another tax for it. It's traditionally been handled as quid-pro-quo: "Telco, we're giving you cheap access to the public right-of-way to run your wires. Part of your side of the bargain is you're going to maintain these important services. If you don't want to maintain them, then let's talk about what the market price is for access rights for all your wiring...".