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HIV Vaccine Safe Enough To Pass Phase 1 Human Trials

An anonymous reader sends this excerpt from Western University in Canada: "The first human applied clinical study (SAV CT 01) using a genetically modified killed whole-virus vaccine (SAV001-H) to evaluate its safety and tolerability was initiated in March 2012. This study is a randomized, observer-blinded, placebo-controlled study of killed whole HIV-1 vaccine (SAV001-H) following intramuscular (IM) administration. Infected men and women, 18-50 years of age, have been enrolled in this study and randomized into two treatment groups to administer killed whole HIV-1 vaccine (SAV001-H) or placebo. Sumagen announced today the patient enrollment has progressed smoothly and there have been no adverse effects observed including local reactions, signs/symptoms and laboratory toxicities after SAV001-H injection in all enrolled patients to date. With these interim results, the SAV001-H has proven safety and tolerability in humans and given Sumagen confidence for the next clinical trials to prove its immunogenicity and efficacy evaluation."

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  1. What is Jenny McCarthy going to say? by alen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Along with the anti-vaccine nutters?

    Clearly using real HIV viruses must be very risky and dangerous

    1. Re:What is Jenny McCarthy going to say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I dunno, I'm starting to think vaccines really do make people retarded.

  2. Re:Vaccinating People Already Infected? by Carnildo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Phase 1 trials are the "prove the vaccine doesn't give you AIDS" (or cause other medical problems) stage of things.

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  3. Re:Calling BS by lowlymarine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It doesn't, but then again that isn't what this stage of testing was about. But hey, I get it - reading to the end of the first sentence of the summary is a lot of work. A busy man like you can't be bothered to invest that much time before rushing off to enlighten us with your genius commentary.

  4. Re:subjects were already infected by slew · · Score: 5, Informative

    I find it interesting that all the subjects were already HIV positive. It looks like this study only shows that it is ok to inject into a human, not that it does anything useful.

    That is all Phase I testing is: identify a safe dosage range and screening for side effects...
    Phase II, they will be attempt to determine if it does anything useful.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_trial#Phases

  5. Re:Does that mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's not the problem. Believe it or not, the problem is getting them to use it. My father has worked in Africa for more than 20 years now and there is a massive amount of distrust for this sort of thing among the native populations. Many average people even think this type of thing is a CIA plot to kill them off. With the things people have done to them over the centuries, I'm not terribly surprised, but there has been a lot of effort over the last few generations to fix that, and yet it still remains. It won't be easy to overcome.

  6. Re:The government created HIV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is not found in mankind prior the last 100 years.

    In many ways you are misguidedly correct. If the governments of Europe did not initiate their heavy colonisation of Africa during the late 19th century, it is unlikely that AIDS would have ever spread outside of the remote areas of Africa where it orginated and would not likely be the pandemic problem that it is today.

  7. Re:So... by Sir_Sri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A very small percentage of the population makes them. One option for a vaccine is to try and hack that immunity into the rest of us.

  8. Re:subjects were already infected by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yup. Phase I results aren't generally considered newsworthy. Pharmaceutical companies have drugs get through phase I trials many times per year. Most turn out to not work, or to have subtle but serious side effects.

    The kinds of problems that you can actually spot in Phase I trials are the kinds of problems that would wipe out entire cities if you actually put the pills on store shelves. We're not talking about "maybe causes a 10% increase in heart attack risk" dangerous - more like "causes half those who take it to turn purple and gasp for air" dangerous.

    It is the logical first step in testing drugs on people, and it confirms that testing it on sick people isn't going to outright kill a bunch of them, and it helps you to understand how it is metabolized so that you can get the dosing about right when you start the "Real" tests.

  9. Re:So... by slew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As I understand it, humans will always produce antibodies to fight infections like HIV. Unfortunatly, the antibodies that humans normally produce in the attempt to neutralize and HIV infection don't appear to be very good at it. The short story is that somehow HIV evolved to avoid having many fewer binding locations so the most effective "Y" shaped antibodies cannot effectively attach bivalently (in two places). This bivalent attach is apparently the most common strategies used by our immune system.

    Apparently some people can make more potent antibodies called bNAbs, but often HIV mutates to avoid these as well, but sometimes there are successes.

    I'm unclear on why this new Canadian/Korean HIV vaccine would be any better at bootstrapping the immune system than the most recent failed attempts. The only novel part that I can tell about this, is that they are using "whole" (but genetically modified) HIV instead of putting HIV protein genes codings into more common viruses, but if HIV is as crafty as it seems to be, this may only be a simple shot-in-the-dark hope that somehow bootstrapping the immune system will allow the body to come up with a way to fight off HIV before it gets a chance to overwhelm the immune system. Color me skeptical as that was what the other vaccines attempted to do, but it's not clear that this will be a successful route.

  10. Re:my vaccine already works by JanneM · · Score: 4, Informative

    ..or get raped by somebody that is infected .Or get a blood transfusion from somebody that turned out to be infected. Or cut yourself on something with blood from an infected person.

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  11. Re:So... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, look at it this way:

    Worst case scenario, nothing happens. Good-case scenario, it cures aids. Best-case scenario, HIV mutates into something radically worst and gives us the zombie apocalypse we've been waiting for.

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  12. Re:my vaccine already works by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Or get a blood transfusion from somebody that turned out to be infected. "

    BTW, that's the reason we don't get any more Isaak Asimov novels.

  13. the low-risk choice by r00t · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you will fuck anything that moves and says yes - well you are engaging in risky behavior.

    Definitely. The low-risk choice is to find something that says no, then make it stop moving.

  14. Re:So... by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least it would be very easy to identify safe sex partners. If it moans and feels like a corpse... uh...

    Damn, my last girlfriend... I think I should get checked.

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