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Homeland Security Mining Social Media For Signs of Bio Attacks

jjp9999 writes "Nextgov reports, 'The Homeland Security Department has commissioned Accenture to test technology that mines open social networks for indications of pandemics, according to the vendor.' This will kick off a year-long biosurveillance program, costing $3 million, that will log trends in public health by looking through public posts. This ties back to White House guidelines released in July that ask federal agencies to 'Consider social media as a force multiplier that can empower individuals and communities to provide early warning and global situational awareness.'"

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  1. Are we really that surprised? by xystren · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As annoying as social media may be, it does provide sources of information... And people that use social media, appear so willing to disclose anything and everything regarding their personal life. So, why wouldn't DHS or health departments not want to use this type and source of information?

    1. Re:Are we really that surprised? by 3seas · · Score: 1

      What shut down the crack industry was a single cop who pursued tighter controls over the purchase and shipment of pseudoephedrine.
      So today you have to show your ID in order to buy sinus meds containing that drug.

      Point is, looking for biological attack in digital world is a greater degree of spending than what it is likely to pay off is ever.

    2. Re:Are we really that surprised? by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

      You mean methamphetamine, not crack. Meth is cooked up using ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, components of over the counter nasal decongestants. Crack is pretty much cocaine that is mixed with baking soda and "cooked" until hard and broken up into little chunks otherwise knows as "rocks".

    3. Re:Are we really that surprised? by Sez+Zero · · Score: 1

      As annoying as social media may be, it does provide sources of information...

      DHS is on the lookout for the nefarious 4chan terrorist Ahsheet Mahdrawz; they believe he is planning to attack NYC with a "dirty bomb".

  2. Communism by sepiroth · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Congratulations. I thought twice before saying anything outloud which could be overheard by authorities during the communism era. I was born in communism and I'm going to die in communism. Thank you. (I know it's not technically communism but you know)

    1. Re:Communism by sepiroth · · Score: 1

      Don't be mistaken it will stay with the USA. Other countries will follow happily.
      Right I am complaining about just that. It is so, anything can be viewed as threat. And surely it begins with weapons of mass destruction. It end with anything you say or do could be used against you. Should I feel guilty for something I say? Do I have to think twice before I say something on social media? I should feel the same as in totalitarianism (thanks AC).

    2. Re:Communism by Robert+Zenz · · Score: 1

      RTFS

  3. Yeah they're probably detecting a strange disease by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some sort of brain affliction that makes people distrust and hate the dept. of Homeland Security. I hear it's spreading fast...

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  4. Brilliant by BlindRobin · · Score: 1

    Now they will see pandemics of hangovers and butt hurt...

  5. Looking in the digital world for signs of.... by 3seas · · Score: 1

    ...Biological attack....

    No wonder we are in such huge debt...

    1. Re:Looking in the digital world for signs of.... by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      ...Biological attack....

      No wonder we are in such huge debt...

      You're kidding, right?

      First of all, the "social media" scene is specifically intended to reflect the real world, of which illness is a component. I can't help but think that you might get advance warning of all sorts of stuff that would take doctors several days to send in mandatory CDC disease reports on.

      And timely? What was the world's first indication of the Osama Bin Laden raid in progress? Right, some dude's tweet in Pakistan.

      And $3 million? What component of a warplane could you buy for that? If you can catch a man-made -- or even a plain-old organic -- disease outbreak early, you'd only need to prevent a handful of premature deaths to be worth the pricetag.

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    2. Re:Looking in the digital world for signs of.... by metaforest · · Score: 1

      I am not a crackpot.

      Me thinks thou dost protests to loudly.

  6. Good but why so expensive? by danbuter · · Score: 2

    I'm glad they are monitoring for this stuff. At least it will help people. But _why_ does it cost $15 million per year?

    1. Re:Good but why so expensive? by Malvineous · · Score: 2

      Would you read people's tweets for anything less??

    2. Re:Good but why so expensive? by vlm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not sure what the problem is. Put more explanation into it.

      I checked opensecrets and the accenture PAC only paid bribes of about 2/3 mil last year.

      http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00300707

      The normal RICO style bribe is somewhat less than 1/10th. So yeah the contract "shoudda" only been about 6 mil. There's a lot of wiggle room, I'm sure this isn't their only contract, and I'm sure that PAC isn't their only bribe paying system. But its not too many orders of magnitude outta line for what tax money they're getting vs what they paid to get it. They don't seem to be getting too much or too little contract for the "donations" they provided, compared to everyone else at the feeding trough.

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    3. Re:Good but why so expensive? by erroneus · · Score: 1

      Because someone's crony needs a new job... and of course the staff that acts like they know what they are doing. It rather reminds me of where I work now. For some reason, IT department is stressed with too much work and not enough people. (We have one person out as we're seriously feeling the pain... that's a shrinking company of about 300 and 5 IT infrastructure and support people. Meanwhile, HR department has a small army of people... 17 at last count.)

      You're right to point out that it's a waste of money. But the cause is something else.

    4. Re:Good but why so expensive? by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      $15 million a year? That amounts to a department with something like 100 techies and 15 managers plus some equipment and facilities. Which in the realm of federal spending, qualifies as chump change.

      The best way to figure out large spending numbers like that, I've found, is to figure that 1 white-collar employee costs about $100K (salary, benefits, HR, office space, etc). So if you make the conversion from dollars to employees, you can get a much better sense of how big an effort really is.

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  7. Re:Yeah they're probably detecting a strange disea by danbuter · · Score: 2

    Probably because Homeland Security has been given almost unlimited rights to detain you forever for no reason whatsoever, often without a warrant or any other documentation.

  8. I felt a great disturbance in The Facebook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As if millions of voices suddenly cried out against state control of the internet and its data, and were suddenly silenced.

  9. Re:Much rather see restaurant monitoring by oobayly · · Score: 1

    ... I don't go to restaurants staffed exclusively by illegals.

    Out of interest, how do you determine this - do you require ID, base it only on looks, or on how much English they can speak? Other than the fact that you appear to be confusing illegal immigrants with immegrants, you've got a valid point.

  10. Well it's Accenture by hughbar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That used to be Arthur Andersen. I first 'met' them in about 1975 when they were messing up something in Woolworths UK. Since then they've been involved in messing up a great many things in gov.uk and some of our bigger companies. I'm not sure what their record is like elsewhere. Also, remember they 'audited' Enron, hence the name change. So, I don't expect that much from this, either way. $3 million they'll be through that in a couple of days, too...

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    1. Re:Well it's Accenture by dkf · · Score: 1

      That used to be Arthur Andersen. I first 'met' them in about 1975 when they were messing up something in Woolworths UK. Since then they've been involved in messing up a great many things in gov.uk and some of our bigger companies. I'm not sure what their record is like elsewhere. Also, remember they 'audited' Enron, hence the name change. So, I don't expect that much from this, either way. $3 million they'll be through that in a couple of days, too...

      The AA/Accenture split happened before that, or at least before it blew up into public knowledge. IIRC, the business services part decided that they wanted to go off on their own and so did an MBO and became Arthur Andersen Consulting (before changing their name to Accenture a few years later). Meanwhile AA decided that they wanted to get back into the business services line. Everything was going fine (if somewhat confusing) and then it was discovered that AA had been rather less diligent than they should have been with Enron, and promptly died. I guess that Accenture at that point felt huge relief that they'd changed their name a few years earlier, as it let them keep the amount of blowback heading their way down.

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  11. Re:Yeah they're probably detecting a strange disea by jasper160 · · Score: 2

    No way, Obama would never do that.

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  12. Re:HIV, Herpes, etc ... by vlm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Then again, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there was a "I have Herpes an proud of it!" group on Facebook - considering how narcissistic and self-entitled people are these days.

    That would probably be a much more accurate predictor of people with stupidly easily guessed passwords, or people who don't lock their phone, or people who leave their PC logged in and walk away... More of a computer security predictor than a bio security predictor.

    Now "I survived the H1N1 flu" MIGHT be actually useful because I'm not seeing it turned into a joke prop. Maybe flu researchers would play tricks on each other or something but 99% of the population would use it seriously, probably.

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  13. Re:HIV, Herpes, etc ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And it would have a lot of members, considering that you can force other people into FB groups. "LOL, I signed billybob up for the EverySocialDisease group and he won't see a computer until after he gets back from his hunting trip!"

  14. As Good as Romney's ORCA? by dcollins · · Score: 2

    Also from Accenture (it's believed) -- http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/election-2012

    Hope it doesn't crash on "day zero", but I suppose from an internal profit-margin perspective, why not?

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  15. Mischief by Smivs · · Score: 1

    Smivs goes off to his Farcebook page to post "Won't be coming out to play tonight - gone down with Bubonic Plague".

  16. I hope I did not post ... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    ... about my recent big farts on facebook!
    Or one of my friends, oh my, I guess I'm doomed!

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  17. How would this be a bad thing? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

    If there was some sort of pandemic that reduced population below the current unsustainable levels, how could that be considered a bad thing? It is believed that the Black Death in Europe was a net gain. It produced all sorts of positive outcomes due to the population reduction. The 1% had to share more of their wealth with the 99% as there were simply too few workers for the land. Unsustainable agricultural practices were abandoned (marginal land was no longer cultivated and ecological disaster was averted). Faith in religion was shattered. Imagine if America's carbon footprint was cut by two-thirds due to the decline in polluting gasoline engines. It would be a win for the entire world.

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    1. Re:How would this be a bad thing? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      There certainly was major cultural change consequent on the Black Death, including a substantial rise in the value of labour - which effectively ended the existence of slavery / serfdom within Britain (if not Europe overall) ; debt bondage still existed, but that's a substantially different thing to slavery. Freedom of travel became much more important de facto, as former serfs could move to work as paid labourers. A lot of changes in agriculture too, though I don't think you could sustain a claim that it averted ecological catastrophe - the Enclosures of a couple of centuries later were probably much more important.

      Faith in religion though ... continued pretty much un-changed. At the time, the Church suffered a considerable loss in authority, which probably helped foster the schism of the Reformation a couple of generations later. But that was just substituting one pile of religious shit for another pile of shit. The smell didn't improve for centuries. It's only just starting to improve in the last couple of generations.

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  18. Next Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    After the smashing success of the ORCA project for the Romney election, I'm sure Accenture will be equally successful with this new project.

  19. Clear indication by xenobyte · · Score: 1

    When people start dropping like flies, chances are that something like a pandemic is at work...

    This seems like a waste of money - If people are really sick, chances are they won't be posting about it. And if they aren't really sick, it isn't worth writing home about and any pandemic of it is likely to be utter uninteresting and trivial.

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  20. Re:Much rather see restaurant monitoring by somersault · · Score: 1

    You never know, perhaps inspection places already do this kind of thing manually, or even have automatic systems in place. It would be a bad idea to make it well known though, otherwise there would also be a healthy industry in Twitter misinformation to kill competitors.. and again, maybe there already are such services in place. I don't really get involved in Twitter myself, but these kind of uses make it sound almost interesting.

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  21. I hope with this technology we can avoid by stickrnan · · Score: 1

    The Great Panic.

  22. Greater Internet Theory at work ... by DavidClarkeHR · · Score: 1

    If you're interested on the effects of the internet on (stupid) internet behaviour, Clay Shirky has a few great books. He has an interesting scientific explanation of the John Gabriel Greater Internet Theory, too.

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  23. Immigrant: American definition by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    American definition of illegal immigrant: Anyone who entered the country after me.

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  24. Re:Yeah they're probably detecting a strange disea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He may not have caused the initial widening, but he'd gladly take advantage of sloppy seconds.

    In the context of being horsefucked up the ass by an out-of-control government, that's one scary image.

    Gee, thanks.

  25. Re:Much rather see restaurant monitoring by NetFusion · · Score: 1

    Your doing it wrong. Anyone eating feed lot corn cow burgers and burritos should expect 24 hours on the throne as the norm, not the outlier. There are a lot more issues with fast food then just the building and staff hygiene. The food itself is suspect and lacking in real nutrition.

    Eating healthy means eating single source foods that are preferably made from local organically produced ingredients. When you look at a plate of food there should be little mystery about where the food on it came from and how it was made. So many people buy the lie that visual equivalence in food equals nutritional or sanitary equivalence, but they are not and the clearest evidence of this is the sad state of the heavily chemically fertilizer salted, herbicide, insecticide polluted soils they come from.

    Real health begins with an active healthy soil food web in soils high in organic matter that is continually replenished, which is then used to raise healthy diverse plant life that can nutritiously feed you, the animals that you depend on for food, AND the larger food web of wildlife that keeps the pathogens and pests in check. In race to the bottom for the cheapest convenience food, you, the mono cropped and feed lot food you are eating, and the polluted soil it is created on are the losers. If you want true "Homeland Security", start by making healthy choices and seeking out responsibly made food.

    "A nation that destroys its soils destroys itself." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

  26. Re:Yeah they're probably detecting a strange disea by JustOK · · Score: 1

    Sometimes, he acts like he's a republican.

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  27. Re:Headline FUD by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
    Agreed ; "pandemic" definitely does not equal "bio(-logical warfare) attack".

    This approach has some past justification (Accenture being fuckwits and the DHS being scumbags notwithstanding). A year or two ago, some epidemiology people discovered that they could predict the progress of IIRC annual influenza epidemic by tracking the use of search terms such as "sniffles", "aches and pains", "headache" etc. IIRC, they used Google's zeitgeist to access the data.

    How effective it is to extend this sort of approach to other media, and other sets of symptoms, is an open question. But it passes my "is this an approach worth evaluating or trialling" threshold.

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  28. It's trivial! by aglider · · Score: 1
    You can easily find publicly in the wild these messages:

    A: Yeah, I'm trying to get those anthrax spores reproducing, as just a kilo is not enough for our nasty projects ....
    B: Naa, you waste your time. I still have those Ebola viruses in my locker. A few grams and you are done. And cheaper.
    A: Well, all right! What about meeting down at Time Square, close to the second oak tree?
    B: It's OK. Don't forget to wear your nice white kaftan. I'll wear mine. And bring the money!
    A: See you!
    B: Inshalla!

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  29. Re:Yeah they're probably detecting a strange disea by houghi · · Score: 1

    Could they not use this for the good and warn people about e.g. gonorrhea the moment you post that you hooked up with a person who Googled it a few days earlier and then called their doctor for an appointment.
    Probably even cross referencing with other people who have been in contact with that person and have been diagnosed positive already.

    I mean, they have all the information anyway and it will show that the government is out to protect us from harm. Right?

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  30. We've identified the nexus, sir. by concealment · · Score: 1

    https://www.facebook.com/anthrax

    Not only are they spreading biological agents, but they're doing it under the guise of being a heavy metal band.

    Summon the drones.

  31. All Data Will Be Mined by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

    personally i think that the TLAs should see about accessing ANY PUBLIC SOURCE of data they can get hands on.

    now of course i think that there should be full disclosure of any sources they are using and it should not be illegal to create "flack clouds" and if you set something in a service to Private then it should be considered NONPUBLIC.

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  32. that's easy by HPHatecraft · · Score: 1

    look for FB posts/status updates containing the phrase "ate Wendy's chili" or some combination thereof.

  33. Re:Much rather see restaurant monitoring by vlm · · Score: 1

    I'd much rather see restaurant monitoring. You should be able to eat at McD and taco bell w/o spending the next 24 hours on the porcelain throne.

    What kind of digestive problem(s) do people like you have??

    I have absolutely no problem eating fast food. No one I know has any problems, either.

    Exactly like I wrote, it depends on your locale.

    Where I live, restaurant A makes everyone sick every time they go there especially if they buy an egg-based breakfast, I assume they're only still in business because of interstate travelers and/or being a corporate franchise the rest of the company is keeping them afloat. Restaurant B upon reflection I'd give 10% to 25% odds you'll get sick, no real pattern. Are you feeling lucky, punk? Its a pity because as fast food goes it actually tastes pretty good. Restaurant C has never, in dozens of visits over the years, ever, gotten anyone in my family sick. I named names for my locale, but its probably all shuffled up in different locales, maybe "C" has the idiot manager somewhere else so they get everyone sick, even though the "C" here has an absolutely perfect reputation. Maybe by some miracle, as you claim, your local health inspector is un-bribable or its just incredible luck of the draw or whatever.

    I'm pretty much bulletproof, digestively speaking, if I cook it myself, partially because I'm not an idiot and partially because I care ... I don't like food poisoning and its remarkably easy to avoid, if you want. I visited Mexico and ate at reasonably upscale restaurants, enjoyed it immensely and didn't get sick, despite being told everyone gets sick in Mexico.

    Somebody's "cold table" is as warm as 60 degrees or the "hot table" is only 110 and a couple hours later you will barf too. Or the other end explodes. Or both at the same time. Plus or minus some vermin infestation, improper sanitation rules being followed, etc. Despite all the strangely appealing and repetitive stories about fast food workers adding extra protein to the meal, the main problem is infinitely more likely to be the same unwashed knife and unwashed cutting board cut up raw chicken right before it sliced your tomatoes and raw onions. Or the raw egg scramble mix sat at room temperature before partial cooking for the entire breakfast shift midnight to 10 am. Or the salad vegetables were stored underneath the dripping raw chicken boxes in the cooler.

    As for the protein additions you'd think this would be a major pr0n problem but I've not heard any discussion of it so I'm thinking as long as the perpetrator is not filthily disgusting its not going to make you sick... Come on, /., think about it, if merely touching a weiner resulted in instant guaranteed painful food poisoning I think teenage pregnancy rates would be a hell of a lot lower, either than or teen girls would be "sick with a tummy ache" a heck of a lot more often. Not to say swapping bodily fluids is safe, merely not insta-death, or (thankfully) not a common health problem.

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  34. Trololol by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

    I will now start tweeting every time I fart, and I will announce it as a "sudden biological gas release event".

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  35. Re:Much rather see restaurant monitoring by vlm · · Score: 1

    I think I better post this AC, cause truth hurts.

    LOL oh spare me before I hurt myself laughing. Very long and complicated and unlikely story vs ... Occams razor suggests that maybe, just maybe, if management feels some laws and regulations WRT to documentation and filling out W-2 forms are optional for them, maybe, just maybe, they might also think some food safety laws and regulations are also optional for them. Simplest solution that makes sense is probably the most likely to be correct.

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  36. Hasn't Google already done this? by defcon-11 · · Score: 1

    Available free from Google: http://www.google.org/flutrends/

  37. Feeds? Processing? by harmonica · · Score: 1

    How do you continuously fetch and process all (public?) messages from Facebook, Twitter and others in near-realtime? Does the US government get special access? Is there a basis in law for this?

    Once you get the data, do you just feed it into some data mining system?

    Any idea about the storage and CPU requirements for such a system?

    Obviously, processing such feeds is interesting for businesses and academia as well. Do you know any such projects?

  38. Google? by chrismcb · · Score: 1

    Why don't they save 3 million and just ask Google?
    Didn't Google used to post a flu map?

    1. Re:Google? by messymerry · · Score: 1

      They plan to stomp on Google at some point. This is a war of three armies: Big government Big business Big media Each has it's own plans for the herd,,, Moooooo 'scuse me while I chew my cud

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  39. Fear Mongering by Gallomimia · · Score: 1

    I must suggest that the only powers capable of bio terrorism are either parties to which weapons have been leaked (on purpose?) or parties who control HLS, so this by default must be nothing more than endless fear mongering seen during the nuclear age of the cold war, and the terrorist age of the early 21st century. Huddle in the corner and eat the grass nearest the fence, all you scared little cattle. Make sure you believe that uncle Sam is the only one who can protect you. Lead you into the slaughter house like good well behaved livestock.

    We are a herd.

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