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Global Warming On Pace For 4 Degrees: World Bank Worried

iONiUM writes "From the article: 'Over the years at the U.N. climate talks, the goal has been to keep future global warming below 2C. But as those talks have faltered, emissions have kept rising, and that 2C goal is now looking increasingly out of reach. Lately, the conversation has shifted toward how to deal with 3C of warming. Or 4C. Or potentially more." Overall it seems that poorer, less developed nations will be largely impacted negatively, while some countries (like Canada and Russia) will actually experience benefits. Where does that leave the rest of the 1st world countries?"

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  1. Re:Quick... by alen · · Score: 4, Informative

    the midwest had a drought for years in the 80's. I remember farm aid.

    its a wet/dry cycle that lasts a few decades and alternates

  2. Nations? What nations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If we hit a warming of 4 degrees, you can forget about nations or countries as we know it. The civilization may well collapse. If we hit 6 degrees, say hello to the next mass extinction. "It would cause a mass extinction of almost all life and probably reduce humanity to a few struggling groups of embattled survivors clinging to life near the poles." Details on this article.

    No idea if this is change one can believe in, but it looks like a very serious change... er, problem.

    1. Re:Nations? What nations? by jovius · · Score: 4, Informative

      I learned new concepts today regarding the Global Warming.

      It's worrisome that currently everything is pointing to an increased possibility of aforementioned things happening. All of this while the humanity itself is releasing as much CO2 into the atmosphere per year as an extinction level super volcano.

      I'm not sure what to think of this. I feel like we already all past the point of no return. The forced reduction of the human activity because of the change in the external conditions can be considered as a natural negative feedback cycle.

  3. Re:Cause? by SirGarlon · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you want to counteract it, you kind of need to understand the root cause. However, given that there's been 90% consensus among the scientific community for more than a decade, the root cause is not really in question. At this point, posing the question of what causes climate change is code for saying, "addressing the known cause would have adverse impact on me, so I deny the known cause."

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  4. Re:Quick... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Informative
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  5. Re:And in the mean time US OIl production increase by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Informative

    The U.S. and Europe aren't to blame, Sparky. Our CO2 emissions have been either steady on on a downward trend for some time. If you want to point fingers, look at China.

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  6. Re:Devil's Advocate by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Informative

    Your posting bullshit:

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998-intermediate.htm

    No folks, AGW did not stop in 1998.

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  7. In Other News by sycodon · · Score: 4, Informative
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  8. Re:Cause? by Burning1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    So far exactly zero of the 'models' have managed to predict anything, so it would seem our science on the matter
    is incorrect.

    You sir, are a tool.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_climate_model#Accuracy_of_models_that_predict_global_warming

  9. Re:Quick... by bunratty · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, the scale of distance is not the difference between weather and climate. The climate is the probability distribution, and the weather on a particular day is a sample from that distribution. Let's say that the mean high temperature for November is 40 degrees where you live. On any particular day, it may be 30 degrees or 50 degrees. Another way to explain it is the climate determines what clothes are in your closet, and the weather determines what you wear on a given day. It's far easier to predict the climate than the weather. The climate next decade will be very nearly what it is this decade. Right now, it looks like it will be slightly warmer, perhaps 0.2 to 0.3 degrees Celsius warmer, as it has been the past several decades.

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