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What "Earth-Shaking" Discovery Has Curiosity Made on Mars?

Randym writes "NASA scientists have some exciting new results from one of the rover's instruments. On the one hand, they'd like to tell everybody what they found, but on the other, they have to wait because they want to make sure their results are not just some fluke or error in their instrument. The exciting results are coming from an instrument in the rover called SAM. 'We're getting data from SAM as we sit here and speak, and the data looks really interesting,' says John Grotzinger. He's the principal investigator for the rover mission. SAM (Sample Analysis at Mars) is a suite of instruments onboard NASA's Mars Science Laboratory rover, Curiosity. Grotzinger says they recently put a soil sample in SAM, and the analysis shows something Earth-shaking. 'This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good,' he says."

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  1. Obviously they are trying to build hype by iYk6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I predict that the results are accurate, but not nearly as exciting as NASA is trying to get us to believe.

    1. Re:Obviously they are trying to build hype by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

      >> This data is gonna be one for the history books

      It turns out that new improved Choco-Pops are now more chocolatey than ever!

    2. Re:Obviously they are trying to build hype by gman003 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thanks to the newest data from Curiosity, NASA has finally determined, with 99% confidence, why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

    3. Re:Obviously they are trying to build hype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is at least the 10th response related to food. You guys hungry or something?

    4. Re:Obviously they are trying to build hype by Gilmoure · · Score: 4, Funny

      Lots of folks posting from CO and WA?

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    5. Re:Obviously they are trying to build hype by Anrego · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Totally this.

      It's probably going to be along the lines of evidence that there might have been some specific trace element at one point which may indicate the existence of water or microbacterial life at one point. In other words, something that is both a major discovery and extremely boring to the large majority of the population (including geeks) at the same time.

    6. Re:Obviously they are trying to build hype by ArcadeMan · · Score: 3, Funny

      The good news is they're doing arbitration -- they're not dead yet.

      I heard they were feeling happy and wanted to go for a walk.

    7. Re:Obviously they are trying to build hype by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Metric or Imperial licks?

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    8. Re:Obviously they are trying to build hype by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

      The timing of the Hostess bankruptcy/closing announcement was a bit odd. It's a Washington company - you'd think they might want to wait and see whether marijuana legalization could resurrect their business!

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  2. Re:I really hope... by aldousd666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It may yet be a scientific triumph, but a public opinion flop. Or a thestudio_bob flop.

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  3. Aliens? by Linsaran · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If so, let me be the first to say I welcome our new martian overlords. Just please don't be the wussy kind of martians that die easilyto earth's microbial organisms.

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  4. Re:I really hope... by somersault · · Score: 5, Funny

    I bet it turns out that Mars is made of:

    Sugar, Glucose Syrup, Skimmed Milk Powder, Milk Fat, Vegetable Fat, Cocoa Butter, Cocoa Mass, Lactose, Demineralised Whey Powder, Fat Reduced Cocoa Powder, Barley Malt Extract, Soya Lecithin (E322), Salt, Egg White, Hydrolysed Milk Protein, Natural Vanilla Flavour

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  5. Earth-shaking by ByteSlicer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Earth-shaking? Well then it is obvious.

    They found evidence of an earth quake. On Mars !!

  6. The Chances of anything coming from Mars by rossdee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are a million to one he said...

    I don't think we want them to discover something on Mars that actually shakes the earth

    OOOOH-LAHHH

  7. water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We found something that looks like it could maybe be the remnants of something that would maybe only show up in an environment that had maybe been exposed to water!

     

  8. SAM Launch by SrLnclt · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a good thing Curiosity brought Surface to Air Missiles along on the trip to protect against an alien invasion of Mars.

  9. Re:I really hope... by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That seems likely. A public fed on movies tends to not think real world discoveries are exciting enough.

  10. Please... by WGFCrafty · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please don t be a be a "Donald Trump" announcement.

    "We're offering 5 million dollars to the charity of your choice if you can prove Mars accepted any of the vanquished troops Rome offered."

  11. Chocolate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    They have found chocolate. At least that's what I've found on the surface of every single Mars I've eaten.

  12. Unsuprisingly cautious by Coisiche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wasn't the last "earth-shaking" announcement that of bacteria using arsenic instead of phosphorus in their molecular construction?

    They'll want to be very sure about whatever it is before going public.

  13. So much for checking the data first by SirGarlon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good,' he says."

    Way to go, Grotzinger. You've just totally undermined NASA's effort to keep their mouths shut until they've carefully checked the data.

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  14. Ocean mineral by greylion3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Probably some mineral, that can only form on the bottom of an ocean.

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  15. Re:I really hope... by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Uh no... Mars bars >.

  16. Re:I really hope... by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 4, Funny

    I do not like green cheese, SAM I am.

  17. Re:I really hope... by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

    Same thing, different configuration options.

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  18. Lightspeed by Lord+Lode · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really hope this isn't going to be like the faster-than-lightspeed-discovery that was an intrument error!

    So feel free to double check the instruments!

  19. Mirrored exploration by Nationless · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm hoping for Evil Curiosity which has a goatee and has been sent by a world mirroring our world in almost every way. Except they're all evil. Although somewhere on that planet will be a mirror version of me.. but.. er.. without a goatee?

  20. Either it's life or overeager techies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "One for the history books" means life. Remember how important it was that one of the two earlier rovers found surface water by getting a wheel stuck in the mud? Remember how big a story that was? That is not getting into the history books. The most likely alternate possibility is that the techies are overblowing the importance of this because it is a big thing in their world.

    Given the description of the instrument, it is likely that they got a successful result from a Viking-style experiment which they are taking as evidence for life.

    For the results to truly be Earth-shaking, they have to have found Marvin the Martian's Illudium Q-36 space modulator.

    1. Re:Either it's life or overeager techies by cplusplus · · Score: 5, Informative

      Remember how important it was that one of the two earlier rovers found surface water by getting a wheel stuck in the mud? Remember how big a story that was? That is not getting into the history books

      That didn't get in to the history books because that didn't happen. Spirit got stuck in sand. Very dry sand. The Phoenix lander at the pole saw visible water ice after scraping the surface with a tool, only to see that ice sublimate. Some satellite evidence hints at possible subsurface flows of brine, but that has yet to be confirmed.

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  21. You should already know! by RobertNotBob · · Score: 3, Funny
    Awe, come on , guys...

    We've known for 40 years what comes from Mars and shakes the earth...

    It's the "Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator".

    Marvin has been searching for YEARS for that darned thing; ever since Buggs was able to get it away from him. Let's hope that he's not looking at the news today.

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  22. Gate plz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please be a Stargate. Please be a Stargate.

    (sorry, but i still miss that show)

  23. Unobtanium! by GodInHell · · Score: 3, Funny

    Apparently, it's real.

  24. Earth shattering? by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Should be evidence of life, something not so surprising. But could be even more shattering to find that we are actually martians that come here very long ago escaping from the climate change that we caused on Mars (even that we Marsformed Earth back then).

  25. Re:"Earth"-shaking? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where is the earth-shattering kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom.

  26. my prediction by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Funny

    There may have been liquid water in that very spot at some point in the last 50,000,000 years!

  27. Re:I really hope... by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's nothing, I could tell you what the Milky Way is made of.

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  28. Re:I really hope... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, there are only two Earth-shaking possible discoveries: life on Mars, or intelligent life on Mars

    Or evidence of either in the past.

    Or Roman helmets, that would work, too.

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  29. There 5.4% nitrogenation of the oil. by bodland · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyone assumed it was 5.3%

  30. Re:I really hope... by kybred · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's nothing, I could tell you what the Milky Way is made of.

    Here's the list of ingredients.

  31. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    They finally found Marvin's Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator

  32. What's exciting to Grotz may not be ... by Squidlips · · Score: 3, Insightful

    too exciting to the rest of us unless we are geologists. Personally I would be very excited by organics or even just carbonates but the short-attention-span, scientifically-illiterate public might snooze. But remember, no matter what the results are, the mission has been a big success. Just because Mars may not be what we want it to be, doe not make the mission a failure.

  33. Re:I really hope... by jittles · · Score: 3, Funny

    American or European?

  34. I predict by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Funny

    A skull! ....of a dinosaur.... ...in a space suit!

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  35. Re:It better be good this time. by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 3, Funny

    Apparently you're just a normal American.

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  36. Re:I really hope... by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with evidence of life is that it's usually something along the lines of "POSSIBLE evidence of life, *maybe* (or possibly not)" And that's the kind of thing that will produce sensationalist "Life Found on Mars!" headlines in the press, but which will likely be followed by the inevitable "Turns out what they found probably wasn't jackshit" disappointment--which will only turn the public even more skeptical of the usefulness of these sorts of missions in the future.

    Now Roman helmets, on the other hand...

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  37. Not Exciting to the General Public by guttentag · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He did break down and tell his family. "I remember at the dinner table with great excitement explaining to my wife, Susan, and my daughter, Bethany, what it was we were doing," says Zare. And then he experienced something many parents can relate to when talking to their kids.

    "Bethany looked at me and said, 'pass the ketchup.' So, not everybody was as excited as I was," he says.

    He told his family what he can't yet tell the world, and his daughter's reaction was, "pass the ketchup." So the discovery must be pretty bland.

    1. Re:Not Exciting to the General Public by Whatsisname · · Score: 4, Informative

      The ketchup comment was in response to Zare's 1996 claims of organic compounds on meteorites found in Antarctica. NASA's discovery is something different.

  38. Re:I really hope... by Columcille · · Score: 5, Funny

    Something about a giant black monolith full of stars.

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  39. Where's the kaboom? by jd2112 · · Score: 3, Funny

    There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering kaboom!

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  40. Re:I really hope... by Dekker3D · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No oxygen to burn it with. The biggest reason coal is so useful on Earth is because it reacts with the ever-abundant oxygen in the air to make warmth (which can be used for power with some more materials)

  41. Re:I really hope... by kenaaker · · Score: 5, Informative
    Actually coal, or any carbon source, wouldn't be a usable energy source, since there's very little free oxygen on Mars.

    Discovering free oxygen would be a very big deal, but extremely unlikely. The only reason there is free oxygen on Earth is because early life started some sort of photosynthesis and starting giving off oxygen as a waste product that had the side effect of poisoning all their bacterial competitors. That event is known as the "Oxygen Catastrophe".

  42. Re:I really hope... by SleazyRidr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Prohibited from saying what the data is, Grotzinger couldn't help himself and gave the public a morsel of a hint while quietly snickering to himself.

    I see what you did there.

  43. I'm guessing this... by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

    NASA just saved a bunch of money on their rover insurance by switching to GEICO.

  44. Re:I really hope... by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Funny

    Something like that would be more of a Mars-shaking discovery. Speaking of that, who says they're not meaning it literally? They found something on Mars that shakes the planet Earth. Like it causes earthquakes or something, lol.

  45. Re:I really hope... by SomePgmr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Negative. It's turtles all the way down.

  46. Re:I'm on the edge of my seat... by Synerg1y · · Score: 3, Funny

    An alligator accidentally made the trip in an oversized hidden compartment?

  47. Re:I really hope... by Khyber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually coal, or any carbon source, wouldn't be a usable energy source, since there's very little free oxygen on Mars.

    Discovering free oxygen would be a very big deal, but extremely unlikely. The only reason there is free oxygen on Earth is because early life started some sort of photosynthesis and starting giving off oxygen as a waste product that had the side effect of poisoning all their bacterial competitors. That event is known as the "Oxygen Catastrophe".

    Hi, my name is iron oxide, I'm all over mars (in fact I give the planet its characteristic red color) and make a great accelerator for thermite and other high-energy thermal reactions.

    Free oxygen is everywhere. You just gotta get it from me, first.

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  48. Re:I really hope... by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually coal, or any carbon source, wouldn't be a usable energy source, since there's very little free oxygen on Mars.

    Discovering free oxygen would be a very big deal, but extremely unlikely. The only reason there is free oxygen on Earth is because early life started some sort of photosynthesis and starting giving off oxygen as a waste product that had the side effect of poisoning all their bacterial competitors. That event is known as the "Oxygen Catastrophe".

    Hi, my name is iron oxide, I'm all over mars (in fact I give the planet its characteristic red color) and make a great accelerator for thermite and other high-energy thermal reactions.

    Free oxygen is everywhere. You just gotta get it from me, first.

    He did not mean free as in beer. He meant free as in "not covalently bonded to other elements at the bottom of a huge thermodynamically stable well".

  49. Re:I really hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The oxygen in iron oxide isn't free. It's quite tightly bound. To get it to react, you need to mix it with something that binds the oxygen even more tightly: for example, aluminium (to make thermite).

    There's no aluminium on Mars (at least, aluminium that isn't already bound into minerals).