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Cyber Monday and Amazon's Online Dominance
sturgeon writes "A report out this morning pegs Amazon with a whopping 14% share of all daily Internet users — almost twice the nearest competitor (Ebay). And this number does not include all shopping sites absorbed by the growing Amazon empire. The original report has interesting graphics comparing Amazon to other retailers like Best Buy."
They generally have better prices or, if not "the" lowest prices, they have better shipping options. Combine that with the lack of Sales Tax collected in the state I live in and the argument can be fairly made that you'd be dumb to go anywhere else.
They've been great for me and have helped me save much over the last year or so just in shipping costs. Places like Newegg are adapting and "trying" to match Amazon but, at least in Newegg's case, they seem to be failing.
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I needed to get a few items this holiday season:
1. LEDTV
2. Digital camera and accessories
3. Kindle (original)
4. Clothes
5. Toys
6. Books
7. Misc
I got 6/7 items on Amazon. Why? A few reasons: I'm already an Amazon Prime member (as a student it was just stupid cheap and I like the streaming options for kids shows) and the very few times I've had a problem with what was shipped to me they have been nothing but spectacular in dealing with it; usually just immediately shipping out a new item without me having to send what I already received back before they'd send a new item.
I also personally believe the shopping experience is far superior to the other online options I looked through (NewEgg, Target and Walmart). Target's site was slow, cumbersome and confusing. Walmart was somewhat similar to Target but at least their site loaded and Amazon's prices were lower for the same or very similar product and next-day option at $3.99 or free at 2 day killed anything I saw elsewhere.
Overall Amazon has been a winner for me for years for bigger purchases and if they keep it up, they'll continue to get my business. While I don't consider myself a HUGE buyer at the holidays, aside from the clothing I bought for my wife where I needed a very specific item that wasn't available anywhere but where I purchased it from.
YMMV.
....they want your netbook back.
but as an individual using a netbook
You might not be the big spender they're targetting. They maximize for revenue, not for # of shoppers.
Rod Taylor
Damn right! This year is 2x as bad as last year which was 2x as bad as the year before it. Here's ever single company's MO for black friday:
1. buy a ton of something straight from Asia that's way below your normal quality standards from brands nobody's heard of
2. put it on sale near cost but understock it so it runs out quickly
3. mark up things people actually want
Even newegg got into it. I put in a newegg order about 1 in 3 days during my shop's busy season so I know what things cost and they are outright lying about the discounts. Like I ordered two Vertex 4 128GB SSDs while they were on sale for $79. They claimed it was "50% off of an original price of $149." Bullshit! It's been $110 for months. Maybe $150 was launch price or MSRP or something but either way, they're lying to their customers. And even they got into 2012: The Year of the Crappy Sub-$100 Android Tablet.
As a "former" ebay power seller I can say Ebay Sucks! It's overridden with drop shipped crap that can be found for 30% less on pricewatch, they nickle and dime sellers to death, and there zero chance of calling to get a live body for customer support. Just look at the difference in CEO behavior - Ebay CEO's make millions in pay, Bezos salary is (c) $80K. When I quite selling on ebay, I quite buying there too. If there's anything I need to sell around the house, craigslist does for me.
Amazon actually now charges sales tax in the following states: California, Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Washington. That's about 1/3 of the U.S. population there.
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I love the comparison of Amazon to Ebay's sales. The biggest complaint I regularly see about amazon is when they ship some tiny object in a giant box. (Which is can also be interpreted as Amazon trying really hard to make sure things aren't broken) whereas I read at least one complaint about ebay and or Paypal every day. Ebay has managed to anger the sellers by being totally one sided in disputes while at the same time they do little to clean up the listings to make ebay easy to use. If I want a part for an iPhone (say a new glass screen) I have to scroll through page after page of the same crap like cases and screen protectors. I want a raspberry pi yet it is just page after page of cases. They have no easy mechanism to clear out the crap. Basically all those cases are spam. I suspect that for any search that results in 1000 results that people are buying 4 or 5 of those results over and over and that they other 996 are just making people angry.
The only thing that ebay has improved as far as I am concerned was when they allowed you to sort by lowest price plus shipping. This then eliminated those people who were selling the $20 item for $1 plus $19 shipping.
Amazon has stumbled on a super secret business formula: treat the customer the way you would want to be treated. At least it seems to be secret as few other businesses appear to know about it especially ebay.
My love of steam has, if possible, increased because of this. They didn't call it cyber monday, they just had an autumn sale. And their sales are always real sales.
YOU OWE USE TAX TO YOUR STATE even if sales tax was not collected at time of purchase -- so pay 'em already you fucking tax deadbeats.
Why, b/c so govt. asshole decided to put his hand in my pocket? If I purchased an item that may have been subject to a tax(and let's get real there's plenty of tax holiday shenanigans an individual could run afoul of), why does the locality get any extra tax? The fuel that powered the truck that made the delivery was taxed, the income used to pay for the item was taxed(Assuming not living in NH, Florida etc). The land on which I will use the item was taxed, so why does the govt get another slice of the pie? Nevermind, the silliness of paying a use tax on a digital download. that has contributed to budget messes for many states?
Sorry, you were looking for unsustainable pension funds and failure to recognize the conflict of interest inherent in collective bargaining of public sector unions. Just ask that rabid union buster FDR. "All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service."
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They aren't snobs. They cater to a wide range of tastes and budgets. Your money is green enough for them even if you are running a netbook.
This likely explains their dominance.
It's Amazon, not Apple.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
....they want that joke back.
yeah, and? it's the "original price," not the "usual price." the original price is always the list price; that's normal, and list prices have been inflated so that they can be "discounted" for about a century now. nothing new here.
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Enjoy it while you can. Federal sales tax is probably coming in the next year or two and every online retailer will be collecting it.
For a long time, Amazon was against a federal sales tax, for obvious reasons. But now they've done an about face, again for obvious reasons. They know it's coming, so it's now to their benefit to get it as soon as possible, since they're already forced to collect sales tax in some states. They've lost that small advantage in a few states, and they want to make sure everyone else loses it, too. Got to admit it's sound business sense on their part.
They could do even better if 9 out of 10 products they sell didn't spit out "We are unable to ship to your address" for Canadian buyers. I am all but given up shopping on Amazon for that reason... they can't even provide a way to filter out items they can't ship to you!
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