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How Can Linux Gain (Even) More Enterprise Acceptance? (Video)

This is what we asked Jason Perlow. He wrote a Linux Magazine column for many years and now writes for ZDNet. The ZDNet blurb describes him as "a technologist with over two decades of experience integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies." Most recently, he worked for IBM, and for Unisys before that. So Jason knows plenty about Linux and its role in big-time enterprise computing. In this video, he talks about how Linux needs to take another step forward to gain even more enterprise traction in coming years.

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  1. Gaining traction should be easy by plover · · Score: 4, Funny

    All he has to do is say "Look at Windows 8. Now look at Unity."

    Oh, wait. Bad example.

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    1. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by Ynot_82 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh, wait. Bad example.

      Actually, it's a perfect example.

      "Look at Windows 8. Don't like the unterface? tough, there's nothing you can do about it.
      Now look at Unity. Don't like the interface? Well try these others, there's plenty to choose from."

    2. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would add "Don't like to have too much options? What about having just one, but wrong?"

    3. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by tolkienfan · · Score: 2

      "Enterprise Level Support Systems"
      Sounds more like a marketing term than real functionality.

      Seriously, what *IS* it?

      I'm not trolling - I'd really like to know.

    4. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by David_Hart · · Score: 4, Informative

      Enterprise level support systems for workstations include, but are not limited to:

      - Inventory management
      - Software deployment, patching, and auditing
      - Remote support
      - Deployment of enterprise policies (i.e. AD GPO)
      - Enterprise security policies (certificate deployment, AV deployment & policies, firewall deployment & policies).

      etc, etc, etc...

    5. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by David_Hart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm thinking maybe account management and such, but I'm sure alternatives are available. Even if they weren't, Linux machines can be used in place of Windows clients in an Active Directory environment.

      There are organisations that do enterprise support for Linux anyway.. Red Hat and the like.

      Account management is but the tip of the iceberg.

      Yes, there are organizations that perform enterprise support. However, these services are largely dedicated to servers and not to workstations.

    6. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Funny

      Its an ecosystem of software that allows group policy to determine what can and can not be done with a computer. Standardize antivirus? Want to spy on web traffic to prevent porn/games on company time? Want to bog down a developer box so that their IDE is so slow you have to wait for shit to pop up when you click, and you can waste 45 minutes building the application while norton dismembers your hard drive, and then cause a Permgen Space error half the time because the JVM isn't allowed to use more than 256megs of ram?

      Enterprise level support is the answer. I'm not the least bit frustrated that I waste 2 hours a day because I am trying to get shit done while my computer gags on a bag of cocks that it is forced on developer and marketing douchebag alike.

    7. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by AAKiwi · · Score: 2

      I agree, I got tired of doing development and spending hours of my week screwing with, investigating, and solving windows bugs.....I would waste so much time and still get nowhere. If one does enterprise software development, Linux is the only way to go. I do anticipate that if Microsoft keep going on the same trajectory....they will phase out C#...

    8. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All of these are 100% doable under Linux, no problem, even more flexibly than Windows.

    9. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

      80% of the Fortune 500 have deployed Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

      Source: InformationWeek, July 2012.

      I'd call that a little traction. And that's just Red Hat, not including alternatives like SuSe, Oracle, and so forth.

      A more telling indication of how well Linux performs in the Enterprise ecosystem is probably the invention of Windows PowerShell. Which is, in large part, a response to the fact that even the most ancient 1990s versions of Linux sported a selection of shells suitable for remote administration and scripting in a way that the comparatively feeble COMMAND.COM and CMD.EXE shells do not.

      I could be even nastier and point out that the RPM database that's installed on every Red Hat family system (including Fedora and CentOS) has not only a complete inventory of all packages installed on the system, including information that can be used to not only inventory what files are installed where, but checksum information that can be used to trivially scan for possible damage or sabotage and that if Windows has yet added such a feature it happened very, very recently. Or enumerate the various provisioning and monitoring tools available for Linux. But that's just being vicious.

    10. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by dintech · · Score: 2

      Linux already far and away the dominant server OS in big enterprise, except for things like exchange and maybe sharepoint. My company is one of the top US companies with more than 80,000 employees worldwide and we're even starting to see some uptake of Linux desktops replacing windows for certain kinds of developer. For the record, I vastly prefer windows 7 to any linux desktop I've ever used and I hate MacOSX, but all things considered, I would never let windows anywhere near any of my servers. PuTTY is my view to the world...

    11. Re:Gaining traction should be easy by dbIII · · Score: 2

      "Enterprise Level Support Systems"
      Seriously, what *IS* it?

      Shatner's girdle.

  2. More acceptance in the Enterprise? by icebike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lose the beard. Find a shirt. Just sayin...

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    1. Re:More acceptance in the Enterprise? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Lose the beard. Find a shirt. Just sayin...

      Just not a red shirt. People wearing those don't seem to live long on the Enterprise.

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  3. Marketing by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

    Same as the 'big boys' ... hookers and blow.

  4. To increase popularity by Sparticus789 · · Score: 2

    Let's have people who are not collecting SS with severe COPD conduct video interviews about Linux.

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  5. Does Linux need more acceptance? by erroneus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously people. Linux is frikken everywhere.

    Though we are a "Windows Shop" here at my company, we have more Linux servers than Windows servers. How can that be? Turns out, our storage appliances, our Cisco phone system, our VMWare servers and lots more if you include the multi-function copiers and stuff are all Linux machines. We also have a small collection of Linux machines I put together which just run and run and run...

    At one time, we were in a meeting talking about various topics and someone made the statement about Linux being a hobbyist system and blah blah blah... I was silent for a moment and then pointed out the largest professional server deployments on the planet are running under Linux. ... and oh yeah, so are most of our servers... voicemail, virtual hosts, storage and all that. How, exactly, is Linux just a hobbyist system?

    Linux, itself, is very widely accepted, used and relied upon. It is very proven.

    What is needed now is serious added push for the SaMBa project to embrace and extend on Microsoft's AD. Take it over and make it better. After all, it's a bunch of services. There's a lot of really smart people out there who are quite capable and looking for a good project to get involved in. I'd like to point in SaMBa's direction. One thing it seriously lacks is a dumbass configuration tool.

    I get that we can tweak on config files all day long and the SWAT thing is kinda nice. But we need to compete with the Windows domain server GUI tools and all that. The functionality is very much there. Now we just need something that dumbasses can use.

    1. Re:Does Linux need more acceptance? by chispito · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now we just need something that dumbasses can use.

      Also, a touch more PR finesse might help.

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  6. Honestly... I dislike Perlow. Intensely. by Slartibartfast · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He's always been an apologist for Windows -- even right during his tenure writing for Linux Magazine. This isn't to say that Linux doesn't have its shortcomings, nor Windows its strengths: they both do. But, dammit: when you're writing for a Linux magazine, you eat the dogfood, you don't find reasons to prophesize that Linux will never be a contender. Which he did. Repeatedly.

    In a nutshell: I can't be bothered to listen to his drivel. I called him on his antics, both in forums, and directly via e-mail, and he never dignified me with a response. I certainly needn't dignify his verbal ramblings with time wasted on my side.

  7. Access by OpenSourced · · Score: 3, Funny

    In my experience, one thing blocking the adoption of Linux in corporate environments are MS-Access applications. Not only legacy ones, that could be moved, but the fact that there is nowhere to move them to. There is simply nothing that remotely approaches Access in the Linux world, and it's a pity.

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    1. Re:Access by sribe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In my experience, one thing blocking the adoption of Linux in corporate environments are MS-Access applications. Not only legacy ones, that could be moved, but the fact that there is nowhere to move them to. There is simply nothing that remotely approaches Access in the Linux world, and it's a pity.

      Granted, my experience with Access is limited. But I do not find its lack to be a detriment for any platform.

  8. Fodder by pep939 · · Score: 2

    Yet another less-than-noteworthy "news" article, ideal to generate clicks & comments...

  9. You don't have to Windows, or make better Linux... by HerculesMO · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have to beat Microsoft Office.

    And that is a game that has been tried, and failed many times. Enterprises aren't hooked to Windows as much as they are the tools they use on it. Excel being probably the biggest one. The amount of power that desktop app has is ridiculous, and while I can applaud all the open source flavors, nothing comes even close. You can't unseat Windows or make Linux more tractable in the enterprise without removing the dependence on Office.

    You can make Linux awesome, make Samba a worthy AD competitor, but if you don't have the productivity suite that makes it amazing, the cost of a $90 Windows license is nothing compared to the productivity you'd give up to lose Excel. Here's a hint folks -- people don't look at the price of the OS, nor do they care. They look at the value of the suite of tools that allow an employee to work. If you could make a business case that a Calicovision would make you more productive than Windows, I think you'd see a swell of pilots testing it out.

    Linux isn't being ignored because it's bad -- well... partly because it is, but that's more a Samba fix -- it's being ignored because it does not contain a worthwhile replacement to the jobs people are already doing, and the businesses already engrained in workflows that surround and use Office. And you will not break that mold easily, if ever. And it's why I still say Windows Phone is going to do well over time.... but I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong.

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  10. Exchange and Printers by LordLucless · · Score: 3, Informative

    It needs an app that can integrate/replace exchange. And no, Thunderbird+Lightning doesn't come close. Just for starters, it needs to allow people to view others' calendars, easily schedule meetings in other peoples' available time, allow booking of resources like rooms, etc.

    Secondly, it needs to work with the massive multifunction printing systems out of the box. I realize this is dependant on printer manufacturers more than the Linux devs, but the end-user doesn't care about who's problem it is - all they know is that printers work on Windows, and don't on Linux.

    I use Linux at my workplace; these are the two primary functions it can't fulfil.

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  11. Missing the forest for the trees. by Revotron · · Score: 4, Informative

    Businesses don't use Windows just to use Windows. Businesses use Windows to use Office, Active Directory, and Exchange. Linux has competitors to all three but they're not even CLOSE, no matter how much the evangelists puff them up.

    What do you get when you put a whole office on Linux? You get a bunch of people sitting around using Linux. But they're not doing anything productive. Nobody's paying them to use Linux. No customers are giving your company money to have an office full of people sit around and "use Linux". Linux is not the product, Linux is the platform. Right now, the Linux platform for enterprise is severely lacking in comparison to Windows. The "Why" is dreadfully simple: there are no serious products that give the platform value.

    Focus community effort on building solid competitors to Office, Active Directory, and Exchange. Maybe try creating something completely new, or maybe just try to mimic the MS products as best you can. Mimic might be better, because then you can show them how similar your products are so the switching cost is minimal, yet one costs a whole lot less, therefore the TCO is much lower.

    In case you haven't noticed, Microsoft likes to throw around TCO as their metric. That's because most businesses don't care about up-front cost, they focus on what you'll pay over the life of the product. Put the most amount of effort possible into minimizing the switching costs. Linux will become a much more viable desktop platform in the enterprise when you can demonstrate meaningful cost savings that take TCO into account. Until then, Microsoft will continue to give enterprise customers concrete and logical reasons for why they should choose their product over all others.

  12. Re:Some one Call 911... by Roblimo · · Score: 2

    I *have* had several heart attacks and am in poor health. Mostly retired, just doing a little part-time work for Slashdot and a few others.

    Am I supposed to call you an insensitive clod now? Nah. Too trite.

    Seriously, in 2010 I had a heart attack, got stents put in, and 5 hours after I got out of the hospital I had congestive heart failure and died. Got resuscitated, but all the tubes the EMS guys stuck down my throat left me with more rasp than voice.