The best reason anyone could come up with was (para-phrasing) "it'll mean closed-source graphics drivers will have to support 2 display servers, and they may not want to do that"
I do find it very odd, to say the least, that Canonical is being criticised though. The criticism should be levelled at the hardware vendors who won't provide open drivers.
I just find it an odd state of affairs when a non-copyleft project (Wayland) is favoured over a copyleft project (Mir) because of proprietary drivers.
Why are we limiting ourselves because of proprietary drivers? It's all backward.
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...but isn't the reason Linus tends to be blunt due to an experience early in Linux's existence?
Someone came in with a big, grand idea and asked if this is something Linux needed. Linus replied with something meant to be taken as a polite NAK.
Guy didn't get the subtle hint, and proceeded to go off and spend x months developing feature. Came back with patches and had the whole thing rejected. Guy left saying he was so depressed he may commit suicide.
Microsoft announced last year that it was moving its German headquarters to Munich. This move is planned to take place in 2016. While Reiter was involved in the deal that precipitated the move and describes himself as a "Microsoft fan," he says the criticism of LiMux is unrelated.
Limux is a project which, up until 3 days ago, has been widely reported as successful. It's been going on for 10 years for god's sake. Now, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it's a failure - according to one politician.
This is a single politician in the german government trying to derail the project for personal gain.
Could you not do overly dramatic headlines on the front cover, please.
Last issue had "Learn to Hack" in massive yellow text.
Right in the middle of the News Corp phone hacking trial, the Snowden leaks, some police evidence tampering stories, as well as a few other computer security related things in the press at the time.
I don't know, really. I've played stuff before (point & click adventure games) where you're dropped into a world with no knowledge of anything and expected to get a certain way through before any kind of plot exposition.
and it's not like the game was silent - I had everything except the vocals.
I have to say, I loved Portal 1 So when Portal 2 was released in beta for Linux, I downloaded and played it immediately.
Having not played it before (last time I used windows was 1998) I had no idea what the game should have been like.
Portal 1 was fairly sparse on the dialog front "We regret to inform you that.....eeee...." lights flicker So I didn't think much of it when Portal 2 was light on dialog
Played through to chapter 4 before I realised that there haven't been any dialog Bug report here (no apparently fixed) https://github.com/ValveSoftwa...
The curse of the Linux-only gamer....
Ps. I've enjoyed the game so far, even sans vocals
Yes, and journeys in early motorised carriages could have been done quicker and cheaper using horses. Not very good at the old forward-thinking thing, are you;)
I think the main reason comes down to binary drivers
Ok, this is at least a valid reason.
I do find it very odd, to say the least, that Canonical is being criticised though. The criticism should be levelled at the hardware vendors who won't provide open drivers.
I just find it an odd state of affairs when a non-copyleft project (Wayland) is favoured over a copyleft project (Mir) because of proprietary drivers.
Why are we limiting ourselves because of proprietary drivers? It's all backward.
Because the userbase for Ubuntu is quite huge comparatively, and Ubuntu seems to like doing shit like this "just because" without any reasoning grounded in fact or reality.
Sorry, I don't understand the comment. Isn't Doing shit, "just because" a fundamental part of OSS software development? Do you want to remove the "scratch your own itch" element?
Quick google says that Mir is GPL V3 What exactly is the issue here? I'm missing something...
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This is exactly the kind of idiotic comment I'm talking about.
So there's just as much hate for Fedora is there? Both OS's use Gnome 3 & Systemd....
Never understood the Ubuntu hate,
particularly for Mir.
Just seemed to be a lot of idiots jumping on the bandwagon.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
The best reason anyone could come up with was (para-phrasing) "it'll mean closed-source graphics drivers will have to support 2 display servers, and they may not want to do that"
'tis but a scratch
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Highly recommended
So less "common" and more "bespoke"....?
Copylefted would at least allow all the different bespoke language runtimes to remain compatiable with each other
...a fork of Debian,
Such a thing is unheard of in Debian's 20-odd year history.
I wonder what the impact of this fork will be on Debian-proper.
...but isn't the reason Linus tends to be blunt due to an experience early in Linux's existence?
Someone came in with a big, grand idea and asked if this is something Linux needed.
Linus replied with something meant to be taken as a polite NAK.
Guy didn't get the subtle hint, and proceeded to go off and spend x months developing feature.
Came back with patches and had the whole thing rejected.
Guy left saying he was so depressed he may commit suicide.
Since then, Linus has been up-front and directly.
Can't remember who, what, where or when
Anyone?
From arstechnica
http://arstechnica.com/busines...
Limux is a project which, up until 3 days ago, has been widely reported as successful. It's been going on for 10 years for god's sake.
Now, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it's a failure - according to one politician.
This is a single politician in the german government trying to derail the project for personal gain.
Could you not do overly dramatic headlines on the front cover, please.
Last issue had "Learn to Hack" in massive yellow text.
Right in the middle of the News Corp phone hacking trial, the Snowden leaks, some police evidence tampering stories, as well as a few other computer security related things in the press at the time.
My postman avoids me now....
Just a friendly suggestion,
Ta
fish ate it
http://intrawebnet.com/wp-cont... ;)
Yes, but I don't think a rant about a device driver setup routine returing -EBUSY as opposed to -EINVAL would appeal to the general public.
...when ill thought out laws are passed.
In the UK, it is a crime (under the computer misuse act) to test a 3rd party system for vulnerabilities.
The Heartbleed incident caused a lot of people to break the law testing whether websites were affected.
The Radeon driver is under MIT, not GPL.
Seems AMD have taken on-board what Nvidia chose to ignore.
Being the advice offered by the Kernel devs
http://lists.linux-foundation....
Does windows still not have a journaling filesystem?
Blimey...
I don't know, really.
I've played stuff before (point & click adventure games) where you're dropped into a world with no knowledge of anything and expected to get a certain way through before any kind of plot exposition.
and it's not like the game was silent - I had everything except the vocals.
anyway...
I have to say, I loved Portal 1
So when Portal 2 was released in beta for Linux, I downloaded and played it immediately.
Having not played it before (last time I used windows was 1998)
I had no idea what the game should have been like.
Portal 1 was fairly sparse on the dialog front
"We regret to inform you that.....eeee...." lights flicker
So I didn't think much of it when Portal 2 was light on dialog
Played through to chapter 4 before I realised that there haven't been any dialog
Bug report here (no apparently fixed)
https://github.com/ValveSoftwa...
The curse of the Linux-only gamer....
Ps. I've enjoyed the game so far, even sans vocals
How is this any different to what Mozilla or Redhat do?
It's brand protection.
They don't want some shody fork that's poorly designed to use their trademarked name and possibly impacting their reputation.
Billuntu - Packed with malware
Jilluntu - It wipes your disk without confirmation
Fixed that for you
Yes, and journeys in early motorised carriages could have been done quicker and cheaper using horses. ;)
Not very good at the old forward-thinking thing, are you
Ok, this is at least a valid reason.
I do find it very odd, to say the least, that Canonical is being criticised though.
The criticism should be levelled at the hardware vendors who won't provide open drivers.
I just find it an odd state of affairs when a non-copyleft project (Wayland) is favoured over a copyleft project (Mir) because of proprietary drivers.
Why are we limiting ourselves because of proprietary drivers?
It's all backward.
Anyway...
Sorry, I don't understand the comment.
Isn't Doing shit, "just because" a fundamental part of OSS software development?
Do you want to remove the "scratch your own itch" element?
Quick google says that Mir is GPL V3
What exactly is the issue here?
I'm missing something...