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Splashtop's Cliff Miller Talks About Their New Linux App (Video)

Yes, you can now have full remote access to your home computer or a server at work that's running Ubuntu Linux. Really any Linux distro, although only Ubuntu is formally supported by Splashtop. What? You say you already control your home and work Linux computers from your Android tablet with VNC? That there's a whole bunch of Android VNC apps out there already? And plenty for iOS, too? You're right. But Cliff says Splashtop is better than the others. It can play video at a full 30 frames per second, and has low enough latency (depending on your connection) that you can play video games remotely in between taking care of that list of server issues your boss emailed to you. Or perhaps, in between work tasks, you take a dip in the ocean, because you're working from the beach, not from a stuffy office. It seems that work and living locations get a little more remote from each other every year, and Splashtop is helping to make that happen. This video interview is, itself, an example of how our world has gotten flatter; Cliff was in China and I was in Florida. The connection wasn't perfect, but the fact that we could have this conversation at all is a wonder. Please note, too, that while Cliff Miller is now Chief Marketing Officer for Splashtop, he was also the founder and first CEO of TurboLinux, so he is not new to Linux. And Splashtop is the company that supplied the "instant on" Linux OS a lot of computer manufacturers bundled with their Windows computers for a few years. Now, of course, they're focusing on the remote desktop, and seem to be making a go of it despite heavy competition in that market niche.

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  1. Hold on, let me check something... by cultiv8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Right, for some reason the "Disable ads" checkbox is not hiding all ads.

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    1. Re:Hold on, let me check something... by sp332 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The URL actually says ?utm_source=PR&utm_medium=PRWeb&utm_campaign=LinuxStreamer-20121128

  2. Why this and not that? by jdharm · · Score: 2

    I'm just now getting around to exploring remote admin options. I just recently discovered the joy of X over SSH and decided to be done with VNC. Now I see this...why would I use Splashtop instead of X over SSH?

    Not a challenge, a request for info.

    1. Re:Why this and not that? by Desler · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because the Chief Marketing Officer says so. Surely that is an unbiased source.

    2. Re:Why this and not that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Straight X over SSH is very slow over the wide internet. Compressed X streams can be very pleasant, e.g., dxpc or NX. NX is now closed source (and the older OSS versions are very difficult to build and use). X2Go looks like they might take the source and run with it.

    3. Re:Why this and not that? by batkiwi · · Score: 2

      What happens to your X over SSH session when you lose internet for 30 seconds (say your 3g coverage drops, or your wifi goes wonky)?

    4. Re:Why this and not that? by phayes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The session drops & you loose all apps that were running on the X Desktop... Which is a the reason I used Xvnc when I had a need to do this. Xvnc is headless (a virtual X desktop) that you use VNC to connect to. Xvnc's biggest weakness was VNC -- slooowwww but it worked way back when there was no other means of doing this.

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  3. Version 2 meh by bhsx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So far I'm not a fan of Version 2. They've detached themselves from Google servers and I know why they did it. Google just released Chrome Remote Desktop, which is a VERY fine replacement for TeamViewer-type implementations. Surely Google will add this to Android's Chrome stack and then it's truly game on for all of these me-too NAT-traversing, competing remote desktop applications. Interesting times ahead in this space.

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    1. Re:Version 2 meh by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It looks like Chrome Remote Desktop requires leaving a desktop running chrome all the time (which is pretty RAM-intensive), and it doesn't support linux either. There are a bazillion solutions for accessing windows remotely, in part because RDP isn't that bad, and Citrix pretty much has the high end locked up.

      If Google really wants to sell chromebooks to business what they need is a chrome-based app for viewing applications hosted on windows/linux/OSX PCs, which is lightweight on the server side so that you can run those applications on a server and not just have a PC dedicated for each chromebook. I don't get their strategy - it is obviously an ideal business laptop from a security/maintainability standpoint, so if they just provided a way to run applications that aren't web-based that would probably drive more adoption.

  4. They sacrificed security for speed by jspraul · · Score: 5, Informative

    Splashtop shipped an unencrypted remote access solution for nearly 1.5 years without giant disclaimers.
    http://slickdeals.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-4033850.html

    I'm supposed to trust them now that it's finally encrypted?

  5. Re:WHAT NT DID IN THE 90S SLUSHTOP DOES TODAY !! by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeeehaaaaaw !! Linux is making some sort of a showing - in a race run 20 years ago !!

    no not quite linux has been able to do this for years already with several different protocals. its more like:

    Yeeehaaaaaw !! We wrote our app that for Linux to do something that you could already do on linux for years and pretending that this is wonderful and new so you will buy our proprietary version that will spam you with adds while you work and we promise not to spy on what your doing really!!

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  6. Re:Register an account...? by rogabean · · Score: 2

    This is only for locating your computers remotely outside of your network.

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  7. Re:Register an account...? by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is only for locating your computers remotely outside of your network.

    Well, yes, I assumed that...that's the only way I'd want to generally be using this...?

    Just watched the video...looks like they charge you by the minute for this too?

    No thanks...more secure and free methods out there is seems...

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  8. Re:Oh, a new shtick. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ITurboLinux was sold to some chinese firm, who used the name and then dumped it.

    Actually, it was a Japanese company, Living on the Edge, soon renamed to Livedoor. Soon afterwards, the CEO of Livedoor went to prison for securities fraud.

  9. Cool, because remote computing is awesome by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I love using stuff like VNC and having a 15 second lag between my mouse or keyboard click and the screen refresh even on a Gigabit network connection running on an 8 core "thin" client. I mean its been a very long time since I could type faster then the screen can refresh. Its awesome the amount of CPU performance and network speed you need to make your workstation feel like its 1989 all over again.

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  10. Re:Innocent question by Rich0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No. That simply forwards X11, and compresses the data stream. NX does a whole lot more - it implements an X server on the client, and an X client on the server, and re-implements the protocol in a manner that involves fewer round trips.

    Suppose you trigger an X11 call to move a window or something, and it requires two round trips and sends 10 bytes of data. If you simply compress that you might get it down to a few bytes, but that isn't doing much since bandwidth wasn't your problem. You still have to wait for 4x the link latency for the operation to complete.

    All of these solutions try to cut down on the latency problem by running a fake server/client close to the real client/server. Each of these sees a low-latency connection and goes at full speed, and then the software tries to keep the screen as up-to-date as it can within the real-world constraints.

    I can't speak for how this solution compares to the various other ones. I can vouch for the fact that getting it to run will be a PITA since they don't seem to distribute source, and I don't run their one chosen distro.

  11. Xvnc is so 1990s by tota · · Score: 2

    Seriously, using Xvnc to forward your ssh session just to deal with disconnections? That is so backwards.
    xpra is way better than this, and even NX, despite being old and closed/abandoned is still better than this, and both are seamless.

    I haven't tried splashtop, and it being closed source I doubt I will in a hurry, but I reckon xpra is probably on par with it when it comes to performance - we also use x264 encoding where appropriate - and this is the keyword: where appropriate (like video, fast moving animations, etc), in many other cases it's not..

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  12. why all the fuss? old news by tota · · Score: 2

    xpra does this on Linux, Windows, OSX and Android (beta).
    It's free and it's open-source.
    It also does x264 encoding when needed and is available for all your machines now without any strings attached.

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