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Google Launches Private Android App Stores

Trailrunner7 writes "Malicious apps have emerged as perhaps the most serious threat to mobile devices at the moment, and the major players, such as Apple and Google, have tried several different methods of preventing them from getting into their app stores and into the hands of users. Now, Google is taking one more step with the launch of a new service called the Private Channel for Google Apps, which gives enterprises and other organizations the ability to create private app stores and control the apps their users can download. Private Channel is essentially a way for organizations to stand up their own miniature app stores inside of Google Play--the main app store for Android devices--and publish apps to it. That gives these organizations the ability to point their users directly to the apps they want users to download for their Android devices. The new service will include some of the security features built into Google Play, most notably the anti-malware system and the ability to authenticate users."

86 comments

  1. Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by bogaboga · · Score: 1, Troll

    "...new service called the Private Channel for Google Apps, which gives enterprises and other organizations the ability to create private app stores and control the apps their users can download..."

    This is Facebook's idea. It might sue. Just saying.

    1. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      More like "Watch out Microsoft".

      This looks like the start of a push to replace Windows on enterprise desktops.

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    2. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      How? This is not related at all to desktops. It looks more like a maneuver to keep MS out of the enterprise mobile market.

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    3. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft abandoned their enterprise desktop market with Windows 8. Right now it would be easier to train a user on an Android device than a Windows 8 one. Anyway, there's half a dozen ways to do this already, like MobileIron.

    4. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How? This is not related at all to desktops.

      I'm seeing it happen already.

      There are plenty of SMEs in Asia using tiny Android PC-on-a-stick computers as basic office desktops. Clipped to the back of a HDMI screen and plugged into a USB hub along with a mouse & keyboard, they're cheap, low overhead and easy to use.

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    5. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How about some names or links to these mini-marvels? Have not heard or seen anything like this.

    6. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Informative
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    7. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by hobarrera · · Score: 1

      Those same companies were probably never MS clients, so I don't see anyone being displaced.

    8. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by mathew42 · · Score: 1

      While they might not have been Microsoft Clients, it is now unlikely that they every will be.

      What would worry Microsoft (and investors) is that this significantly reduces the growth potential for Microsoft in one of the few areas in the world where the economy is growing. For linux it is great news, because a more diverse eco-system reduces vendor lock in and the same devices could easily run a linux distribution.

    9. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      Maybe in your parent's basement but not in the real world.

    10. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      Someone is angry. Don't worry, eventually a woman will like you. Just accept she'll be overweight and lack self confidence and she will be there for you soon.

    11. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Yup and for about $100, one cannot really go wrong with those things.

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    12. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      Why don't you try one and learn for yourself?

      The more recent versions with Rockchip 3066 and similar dual-core CPUs are very competent machines. Most are running Android 4.1, drive 1080p screens and can dock to external USB drives.

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    13. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Über-neat!

    14. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      Microsoft abandoned their enterprise desktop market with Windows 8.

      You do know the main focus of enterprise is getting the servers to run Windows? Once you do that, the clients follow automatically.

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    15. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't think Bogaboga liked girls.

    16. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For linux it is great news, because a more diverse eco-system reduces vendor lock in and the same devices could easily run a linux distribution.

      This is going to make your day, then: Android is a Linux distro!

    17. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by lxs · · Score: 1

      That's why I keep coming back to this place. After wading though piles of trolls, fanbois and nerds bitching about everything and nothing, someone makes a more or less offhand comment that leads to me discovering something new, and possibly hours of tinkering.

    18. Re:Watch out Google, Facebook might sue! by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      I'm sure it works fine but just because something works doesn't mean enterprises are going to accept it otherwise they would have taken on Linux by now which would make much more sense than Android.

  2. Cool idea... by RLU486983 · · Score: 1

    and I'd use it and recommend it so long as it doesn't get abused and/or have the uncontrolled saturation like the regular store. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. (No pun intended!)

    1. Re:Cool idea... by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now we'll be able to get enterprise-grade fart apps.

    2. Re:Cool idea... by Tontoman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It would be useful for something like a timesheet app. Not interesting to the general public, and yet useful within an enterprise.

    3. Re:Cool idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and I'd use it and recommend it so long as it doesn't get abused and/or have the uncontrolled saturation like the regular store.

      Will your employer saturate its own store-for-employees with abusive apps? This is a way for a company to distribute to a whitelist of employees.

    4. Re:Cool idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And months behind the MS roll out of the same thing for WP8 and Win8. But don't worry, we'll pretend Microsoft stole it from google.

    5. Re:Cool idea... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem is that Android only has an automatic software update facility via a market application. So, either the company needs to write their own tool that periodically polls the server for new apks to install, or it needs to tell every user to manually install the new version when there is an upgrade.

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  3. In other news they Axe the Free Google Apps. by Macfox · · Score: 3, Informative

    Google Apps Free Edition

    Starting on December 6, 2012, Google will no longer offer new accounts for the free edition of Google Apps. Google Apps free edition is sometimes referred to as "Standard Edition."
    If you already have the free edition, you can continue to use it for free. This change has no impact on existing users of the free edition.

    Please see the Google Enterprise Blog for additional details.

    http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com.au/
    http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?answer=2855120

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    1. Re:In other news they Axe the Free Google Apps. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      companies do this all the time... make a big fuss about one thing while quietly or secretly doing something everybody will hate.

    2. Re:In other news they Axe the Free Google Apps. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Certainly bad news. I hope everyone got it if they wanted it... ever. It's still a great free service.

    3. Re:In other news they Axe the Free Google Apps. by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      I was just about to transfer a couple of domains over ... damn.

    4. Re:In other news they Axe the Free Google Apps. by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      Rackspace has a cheap alternative for email that works very well. Fastmail is also cheap and reliable and I doubt either of them will spy on you as much as google.

    5. Re:In other news they Axe the Free Google Apps. by AmyRose1024 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't look like this will affect individuals who just want to use Google's services, only business users.

    6. Re:In other news they Axe the Free Google Apps. by Macfox · · Score: 1

      Gmail/Google consumer accounts remain. Google Apps no longer has a free version which was very popular with individuals wanting a personalise email/web , and small businesses / non-profits outside the US of 10 users.

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    7. Re:In other news they Axe the Free Google Apps. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well this sucks, they're getting more and more away from their business culture.

      For those still wanting free domain emails, try yandex; they started offering that service a while ago. Even though i havent tried it yet, it shouldnt be bad for a free solution.

    8. Re:In other news they Axe the Free Google Apps. by Blue+Stone · · Score: 0

      They've already stopped anyone without a Google+ account rating or commenting on apps.

      I could even see them requiring a Google+ account for downloading apps. They do appear to be THAT desperate to make G+ work.

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  4. Re:More like apple everyday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like something SEAndroid should include if it doesn't, already.

  5. So like BlackBerry but not as sophisticated by accessbob · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sounds like the device management in BlackBerry but not as sophisticated. With BlackBerry, you can manage what goes on the devices even more precisely. And with BB10 next month comes the private app store where different groups of users can see different sets of apps within your organization. You can also automatically push the apps (and upgrades) to the devices. You can also manage a firewall between personal and corporate content/apps within each phone (it's called Balance). Good to see Google helping the enterprise, but it sounds like they still have a way to go.

    1. Re:So like BlackBerry but not as sophisticated by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      They did have a later start. They should have those features, and would guess they'd be easy to implement on their own. The trick is getting all of the different app store behaviours (public store, private stores, alternate stores, and side-loading) working together well and controllable with some sort of device policy. The more open a device is, the more things it has to take into account. It sounds like they could use some of things that BlackBerry has learned though.

    2. Re:So like BlackBerry but not as sophisticated by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      Everything on android is just like what someone else has done but with less sophistication.

    3. Re:So like BlackBerry but not as sophisticated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So like Microsoft Exchange but less "sophisticated". Good to see RIM helping the enterprise, but it sounds like they still have a way to go before there's as little user control.

  6. A private repository! In the cloud! by maggotbrain_777 · · Score: 1

    I like this. All privacy issues aside, this is similar to keeping to maintaining your own local, debian repository. But, 'in the cloud'. Have any Linux distros attempted this?

    1. Re:A private repository! In the cloud! by BanHammor · · Score: 1

      Yep. Ubuntu's main mirror is hosted on Amazon S3, AFAIK.

    2. Re:A private repository! In the cloud! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that's not even slightly similar.

    3. Re:A private repository! In the cloud! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      openSUSE has their build service, where you upload source + RPM spec (which could be a binary and a spec for an RPM wrapper) and end up with RPMs and/or DEBs on some repositories for whichever distros you enable.

      There don't seem to be any settings for access control on the openSUSE instance. It looks like someone toyed around with it, and later abandoned the idea.
      https://features.opensuse.org/306908 (3 years old)
      http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Concept_ACL#Project_is_confidential (last edit two years ago)

      Last time I looked, they provided a VM image. But running it on your own cloud isn't the same as running it on someone else's cloud. Their wiki says Dell does this, and the Dell page at http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/ says so too.
      http://openbuildservice.org/download/

      Disclaimer: I've never actually used the OBS, I just thought it was a cool idea. I'm sure it's much harder to use than this post implies.

  7. So can we finally have... by ikaruga · · Score: 1

    a REAL Steam client(or something similar, not necessarily by valve) for mobile games and platforms? Not the crap we have on iOS/Android right now. Someone must step up the gaming business on Android already. I though sony could do it with PSMobile program, but like always just wasted all that great potential. And browsing for games on the Google Play store is a nightmare. Live wallpapers and widgets are not gaming categories. Where is fighting/flight/SHMUP/simulator/platformer/RPG/strategy/etc sections?

  8. So what? by countach · · Score: 1, Informative

    I'm not sure why this is interesting. Apple has offered companies a way to upload their own private apps to IOS for years. Slightly different to this mechanism, but the same result.

    1. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why this is interesting. Apple has offered companies a way to upload their own private apps to IOS for years. Slightly different to this mechanism, but the same result.

      Obviously any company, just like anyone else, can load their own apps to their own device. That's hardly the same thing as providing a central repository for employees to pull from.

  9. EFF / FSF Channel? by Bob9113 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Might be cool if the EFF or FSF put up a channel. EFF could identify apps that don't spy on you. FSF could list apps that offer their source code under a F/LOSS license. Either one could also create an "Approved by EFF" (or FSF) logo program to generate revenue to fund the channel administration.

    Malicious apps have emerged as perhaps the most serious threat to mobile devices at the moment

    It is true that I am much more likely to install software I believe I can trust,. For me, the EFF and FSF are organizations that I would trust to make the call, not a corporation like Google, Apple, MS, or Amazon. But Google does make it easy to get the software onto my rooted and rom'd Galaxy, and pay the programmers for their work.

    It may not have mass market appeal, but it doesn't have to. It only needs to appeal to the hundreds of thousands of technophiles who know about the EFF and FSF; that's enough to make a successful channel. There'd be some decent revenue there, and it would raise the public image of the EFF and FSF as defenders of digital liberty.

    Obviously there are EULA, DRM, and walled garden questions that must be contemplated, but there seems to be enough upside to at least go through the thought process and see if it can be reconciled.

    1. Re:EFF / FSF Channel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      F-Droid is almost that "FSF channel": only free software built from source. Apps that spy on you are marked as such and aren't shown by default.

      (Disclosure: I contributed translations to the project.)

    2. Re:EFF / FSF Channel? by mathew42 · · Score: 2

      The idea of custom channels sounds very appealing. especially channels curated by well known identities. Apps are currently promoted by blogs etc. and the effect of a channel would be to provide a list of all the Apps recommended by someone. Although this might also be covered better by "recommended" lists, which to some extent could be implemented by a hooks to Google+.

    3. Re:EFF / FSF Channel? by ceka · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up!

    4. Re:EFF / FSF Channel? by Robert+Frazier · · Score: 1

      F-Droid is a very good thing. Nowadays, I'm disinclined to use an app that isn't available on F-Droid. I've been weeding out non F-Droid apps, and am down to one or two.

      (I don't have a Google account, so Google Play has never been available to me.)

      Best wishes,
      Bob

    5. Re:EFF / FSF Channel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome!

      Also, AFAIK, companies don't need to host their internal-use apps on Google's market. There are some/plenty/a lot of Android marketplace platforms "out there" that they can host themselves and provide authenticated/secure/intranet-only access to their employees. Now I'll grant you that this opens up that thing about using apps from "other sources" and it opens a nice security hole right there, but this can be just as easily avoided.

      <immature>Why not call it F-ing-droid.org?</immature>

    6. Re:EFF / FSF Channel? by SteveMoLang · · Score: 1

      Well, f-droid is a fork of Aptoide. And by the last version of Aptoide, it seems a pretty more mature platform...

  10. No they won't by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    This is Facebook's idea. It might sue. Just saying.

    I read your post, and thought "idiot", on reflection...and its off-topic. Facebook and Google are an inevitable clash. Google+ Continues to grow [500 million people have upgraded, 235 million are active], and Facebook is reportedly in talks to buy Microsoft's Atlas ad technology. They are very much in each others faces.

    1. Re:No they won't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol google plus has 235 million active users? Who told you that nonsense?

  11. How funny and great to see. by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    I had suggested this very idea about a year. The idea is that by having multiple stores, it is a certainty that Google will shortly offer one that is for SECURED apps. IOW, it will operate similar to Apple's. Now, I have zip desire to use this for my droids. However, for my 70+ y.o. parents, this is ideal. Likewise, I know a number of ppl that want the security of Apple's private store, but the phones that are available under android (bigger and better screens).

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  12. Android Play search is awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how much of this is to select a subset of permitted apps, and how much of it is because search is terrible in the play store.

    I bought an O!Play, an Asus media player/NAS/UPnP renderer that sits under the TV, so that I can play videos and music from any computer in the house to the main TV and main speakers. I wanted to play stuff from Android and searched hard for something that supports O!Play and found nothing much. I complained to Asus that they should support Android, and they point me to a free app called O!MediaShare DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE O!Play that's free and does exactly what I was looking for. Look at the keywords on the page, it mentions O!Play right there, yet it buries it right down in the listing. Yet the search in the Play store panel didn't find it.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bianor.oms&hl=en

    Type in O!Play and it gives me 'Google Music Play', various Android players, Recipe apps (seriously?), Pool Master Pro. Glow Hockey, FoxFi wifi hotspot (why????)....

    What a POS, Googles Android search is. The results don't even relate to the word 'Play', let alone the name O!Play

    1. Re:Android Play search is awful by pieleric · · Score: 1

      I guess it's due to the exclamation mark in the middle of the word. If you look for "O!Play" (with the quotes), it works.

  13. How is this supposed to help exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So multiple stores will end malware and spyware apps? Ya right. What crack are they smoking? What a joke.

  14. Enterprise deployment means an app from any server by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Obviously any company, just like anyone else, can load their own apps to their own device.

    That is not what enterprise deployment is.

    That's hardly the same thing as providing a central repository for employees to pull from.

    In fact it is. With an enterprise signed app, you can put an IPA file anywhere you like, and have someone just point any iOS device at it to download and install. There is no need to know the device UDID ahead of time.

    The restriction on this from Apple's end is that the people downloading and installing these apps must be employees of the account that has the enterprise license, or you risk revocation. They don't check though - how would they know a device is owned by an employee? They can't and Apple is as I said not even hosting the IPA to distribute.

    The employee clause exists mostly to keep people from standing up general purpose app stores for any random user.

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  15. Submitter is confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TFA is also confused. The point of a private app store is to distribute apps that are for employees only. This won't stop users from installing malware, because they can stil install apps from the normal channel.

  16. Sent From Android Phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

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    Hay have you heard if you go to thebigmoneymakingwebsitetotallynotascam.com you can make $120 an hour just browsing the web. My Aunt who has been unimployed for 10months make $27194 last month alone. You should try it, all you need is to download and instal a program which is easy 1 2 3. And a valid credit card so can effortlessly send you money!!

  17. Nice post by sumitkhurana38 · · Score: 0

    really Nice post i like it

  18. It was bound to happen by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Google can't be bothered to police their App Store so they've created an option to allow people to do google's job if they're keen on my being spied on by all their apps.

    1. Re:It was bound to happen by LodCrappo · · Score: 1

      ignorant troll

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  19. Brilliant by giorgist · · Score: 0

    What a brilliant way to create targeted groups ! In fact I am sure apple will soon come up with it as well and sue Google for patent violation. I find it quite handy in that I could possibly subscribe to a group that I support their method of reviewing apps such as EFF or FSF. I wonder if I subscribe to two groups do I get what is common to both sets or a combination of the sets ? I suspect the first if the business model is to work.

    1. Re:Brilliant by BanHammor · · Score: 1

      FSF? Android? Not without at least forking the thing.

  20. Bad Apps by CuteSteveJobs · · Score: 1

    Biggest problem I have is apps that want to snoop on my phone state (can get your phone #, see what calls you are making and when) and unnecessary geolocation (so they know where you are to profile you in their marketing database). Android does warn you what apps do, but I'd like to see these categories made clearer so I don't even have to see then when I'm searching.

    Next annoyance is apps that have intrusive advertising. Google doesn't warn about this. You find out when you download. Download. Delete. Download. Delete. Maybe half of all apps are like that.

  21. obligatory xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  22. Re:Just what we need, More FRAGMENTATION. by EdZ · · Score: 1

    This sounds like a subset, rather than a fragment. The idea being to restrict what users can or can't install from the public appstore (i.e. to prevent PHB#528 installing 300 fart noise apps with 6 different keyloggers lurking in there), and restrict global users from installing company-specific programs while still delivering them to company users via the same distribution mechanism as the rest of their apps (e.g. no need to sideload each phone individually).

  23. Make someone else responsible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't fix it? Make someone else responible.

  24. More google suckage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Found out today that a google PLUS account is required to rate google play / market apps. For a loving twist, your username, name and email address will be visible to any rating you give in the future using the google play store.

    On one hand, I can understand why they did this. Wanting to tie feedback to actual individuals

    On the other hand, fuck you google. I am not joining google plus just so I can rate applications on google market.

  25. Now only authorized by Grand+Facade · · Score: 1

    malware and malicious apps will be availlable.....

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  26. Re:Enterprise deployment means an app from any ser by marsu_k · · Score: 1

    In fact it is. With an enterprise signed app, you can put an IPA file anywhere you like, and have someone just point any iOS device at it to download and install. There is no need to know the device UDID ahead of time.

    I'm aware of this as we are developing an iPad app at the moment, but it's not really the same is it? I mean, should there be a new version of the app, the users must download the new version (and know about its existence in the first place). As far as I can tell, this "private app store" allows notifications of updates like Google Play does. This really doesn't concern us as the actual iOS app changes very seldom, we're able to update the data separately (TouchDB <-> CouchDB rocks), but I think the Google approach here has some merit.

  27. meh by CimmerianX · · Score: 1

    Sounds to me like Google will setup stores for ATT, Verizon, etc.... Somehow the phones they sell will be locked into these stores. So that only ATT can determine what apps ATT users can get. Just watch.

  28. Not so private then by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    if it got on slashdot.

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  29. Aptoide ? :-) by SteveMoLang · · Score: 1

    Well, private stores is really what is available with Aptoide for the Android Platform, isn't it ? And it is open source (GPL v2).

    1. Re:Aptoide ? :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck anoynmous... those guys suck

  30. Re:Enterprise deployment means an app from any ser by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I'm aware of this as we are developing an iPad app at the moment, but it's not really the same is it? I mean, should there be a new version of the app, the users must download the new version (and know about its existence in the first place).

    They would have to download the app no matter what app store it was from.

    As for auto-notification of updates, HockeyKit can handle that if needed, but an email to users with the update link also works.

    this "private app store" allows notifications of updates like Google Play does

    Do you mean Google's private app store or iOS enterprise deployment? Because you can do whatever you want with enterprise deployment.

    It's true that Apple is not providing an App Store framework, but like I said there are already solutions that do that for you.

    Im not saying the Google approach has no merit, I'm just saying you get the same functionality on iOS.

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