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Steve Jobs Patent On iPhone Declared Invalid

An anonymous reader writes "Apple's most famous multitouch software patents are increasingly coming under invalidation pressure. First the rubber-banding patent and now a patent that Apple's own lawyers planned to introduce to a Chicago jury as 'the Jobs patent.' U.S. Patent No. 7,479,949 covers a method for distinguishing vertical and horizontal gestures from diagonal movements based on an initial angle of movement. For example, everything up to a slant of 27 degrees would be considered vertical or horizontal, and everything else diagonal. The patent office now seems to think that Apple didn't invent the concept of 'heuristics' after all."

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  1. why was it even granted? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good riddance to this patent. It's yet another example of how the patent office will let just about anything slip by right now.

    If putting ONE widget/idea/whatever on a machine is patentable, then putting multiple "things" on a machine is obvious. "Multitouch" is the same a "touch."

    Another one: If putting wifi on a computer is patentable, then putting wifi on any computer-like device (tablets, phones, anything using a processor) is obvious.

    The trolls are maybe less than half the problem. Letting these companies patent the kitchen sink just because there is a trivial change is a huge part. And they won't pay of examiners that actually know what they are doing because it means a pointy headed administrator will have to be paid less to do it.

  2. Re:I hear millions of ifans by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    you mean iGony

  3. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by Xenx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Err.. Apple wanted to call it the Jobs patent, but were denied. How is it Slashdot's fault for actually referring to it as the Jobs patent?

  4. Re:I hear millions of ifans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a sample:
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    Rubbish. Here’s our own government handing the keys to our future economic prosperity over to Korea wholesale.

    The sound of the jobs being flushed down the toilet may be your own.

    Jubei
    Friday, December 7, 2012 - 5:53 pm Reply
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    Agreed. All this hard work from Apple invalidated giving the green light to slavishly copy them. The US is heading down irrelevancy by its own government.

    khryshimself

    Read more at Link

  5. As a satisfied owner of Apple products... by ilsaloving · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a (up till now) satisfied owner of Apple products, all I can say is: Good.

    Maybe if they lose enough of these stupid patents, they'll start thinking less about suing the world into oblivion and go back to doing what made them the company they are now: Making products that delight their customers.

    From recent events, it's clear that Apple forgot that part somewhere along the line.

    1. Re:As a satisfied owner of Apple products... by jkrise · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Isn't that capitalism at its finest?

      Utterly wrong. This is a crude, barbaric brand of nihilism.

      Capitalism believes in the unbridled accumulation of wealth. But the neurotic psychopath Steve Jobs was not after wealth. In his own words:

      "I don't want your money. If you offer me $5bn, I won't want it. I've got plenty of money. I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want."

      A pure nuanced capitalist would've licensed the thousands of patents at a realistic price and made lots of money for himself and his shareholders. But Jobs wasn't a capitalist, he was a self-confessed copycat, an anarchist, nihilist and narcissist rolled into one.

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      If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
  6. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by Osgeld · · Score: 5, Funny

    the last mac I bought was not even a year old when saint jesus jobs deemed my very expensive computer unworthy of OSX... 8 years later someone figured out if you swap two bytes in ram you could run upto os 10.2 on the fucker.

    So making a decision to fuck over customers cause he wanted basically the same machine in a dumb shit blue case is just one of a billion reasons that arrogant con-artist deserves a boot up his used car salesman ass, both in life and in death.

    Course now that he is dead, he cant dazzle you morons with a new toy

  7. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by gagol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IFF there is a god, I am pretty sure he/she/it is against hoarding cash like crazy.

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  8. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by Noir+Angellus · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's probably what killed him.

    (Too soon?)

    Not soon enough! Jobs was a class 'A' douche-bag. He openly flaunted patents, stole IP (every "original" design he ever produced or commissioned was a direct copy of an existing item from another company, Baun suffered greatly from this http://www.idigitaltimes.com/data/images/full/2012/09/04/1223-braun-or-apple.jpg) and bullied countless REAL innovators out of business. The only "multi-touch" he ever created was what he did to customers' wallets, or it would be if screwing idiots over was anything remotely original. Jobs also abandoned and denied paternity of his first child and summarily ended all philanthropic programs (that's charity if anyone is wondering) sponsored by Apple when he took control. The only thing he ever achieved personally was to make sure anyone wearing a turtle neck (skivvy in local parlance) look like even more of a douche. What did Jobs ever do to us? He screwed us. All of us. Even those who have never and will never buy any iShit suffer because of what he's done to the industry as a whole.

  9. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by White+Flame · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Patents like this are incredibly stupid. It ostensibly doesn't matter who filed them, except that the higher profile the owner is, the more damage it does. The downfall of the patent should be celebrated.

  10. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by Tough+Love · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple would have filed a patent on distinguishing right from wrong, except they never got that one to work.

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    When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
  11. Preliminary Invalidation, not end of the road. by maelfius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is just a preliminary invalidation, not the end of the road for this patent. Many patents that are in this state survive (partially or wholly). This simply is the start of a process within the USPTO.

    (Relevant Post taken from Mac Rumors discussion on this, this is not my post, but relevant for this discussion): http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=16445804&postcount=39

    Folks -- a preliminary invalidation is a non-event. Every patent you apply for is almost always initially rejected. It is the way the patent examiner pushes the burden back on the inventor. They reject, you appeal, they reject, you appeal, patent issues.

    Typically the findings for an initial patent application are really weak and easy to overcome.

    The re-examination process is the same way. The patent examiner places himself in the position of the person trying to shoot the patent down. That is because the other party to communicate with is the original inventor and obviously they are going to push for maintaining the application. So in order to do proper due diligence, the examiner needs to find reasons to refute the patent, and then there is an appeal, and then possibly another invalidation, and another appeal and then the patent likely holds in some form.

    In short... nothing to see here... move along.

    I don't know the actual percentage, but I'd bet 99.9% of all patents for which a reexamination was requested receive a preliminary invalidation. And I don't think the patent office can refuse to do a reexamination on a patent.

    Full Discussion here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1503872&page=1

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  12. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't think of anything great that Jobs did. He didn't invent or build anything, high level direction doesn't count for squat in my book. He was the best marketing droid/pitchman of recent history, but that just a shitty thing to be around for the rest of humanity.

  13. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by meerling · · Score: 5, Informative

    More like 'Exploit'. The phone systems then used specific tones to control it. Those 'blue boxes' just repeated the tone used to activate an authorization for a no charge long distance call. Those boxes weren't even doing anything new, as the specific tone was well know to the phreak community and hackers in general. One gained the handle of "Captain Crunch" because he found out that the whistles that came in Captain Crunch cereal at that time produced that specific tone and could be used to activate free calls. Steve Jobs merely tread upon a road well worn by those that came before, and he charged as much money as he could to those who weren't in the know.

  14. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From wikipeida: Steve Jobs "was assigned to create a circuit board for the arcade video game Breakout. According to Atari co-founder Nolan Bushnell, Atari offered $100 for each chip that was eliminated in the machine. Jobs had little specialized knowledge of circuit board design and made a deal with Wozniak to split the fee evenly between them if Wozniak could minimize the number of chips. Much to the amazement of Atari engineers, Wozniak reduced the number of chips by 50, a design so tight that it was impossible to reproduce on an assembly line.[further explanation needed] According to Wozniak, Jobs told him that Atari gave them only $700 (instead of the offered $5,000), and that Wozniak's share was thus $350.[53] Wozniak did not learn about the actual bonus until ten years later, but said that if Jobs had told him about it and had said he needed the money, Wozniak would have given it to him."

  15. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dang, Jobs who died richer than belief, and started a crusade against Google for "stealing" something Jobs never owned, gets seated next to Allah, Buddha and Jesus. But Einstein, Tesla, Maxwell, Newton, and countless others who actually contributed something useful to the world never get mentioned...

  16. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by poetmatt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course, that's because it was denied when he applied for it in the first place.

  17. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by narcc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That story really puts things in perspective, doesn't it?

    Woz: A brilliant engineer and a genuinely good person.

    Jobs: A liar who will happily screw over even his closest friends to make a buck.

    Which one does the media celebrate?

  18. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IFF there is a god, I am pretty sure he/she/it is against hoarding cash like crazy.

    So to find out whether there is a god, we just have to find out whether you are pretty sure he/she/it is against hoarding cash like crazy. :-)

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    The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  19. Re:What wrong has Steve done to you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    That story really puts things in perspective, doesn't it?

    Woz: A brilliant engineer and a genuinely good person.

    Jobs: A liar who will happily screw over even his closest friends to make a buck.

    Which one does the media celebrate?

    Jobs did this to a lot of people, often to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. For awhile his trick was insisting that a written contract was unnecessary and would get in the way of friendly future business relationships, but that he'd guarantee if person X delivered Y, Jobs would compensate him with Z. Then when Y was delivered Jobs would say that there was no way he would have made such an arrangement and that X was up shit creek without a contract.