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McAfee Is Doing a Live Broadcast Tonight

paysonwelch writes "John McAfee, famed antivirus software pioneer and human rights advocate, today announced that he will host a news conference to ask the world for its protection against the Government of Belize. On his official blog, whoismcafee.com, Mr. McAfee has accused the Belize government of widespread corruption. Because of this, Mr. McAfee feels that he will be in grave danger if he were to be returned to there."

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  1. ...and nobody came. by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, how long are we going to keep feeding this poor nutcase's attention habit?

    1. Re:...and nobody came. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Three, four more weeks, till some interesting football games come up.

    2. Re:...and nobody came. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as it continues to be funny.

    3. Re:...and nobody came. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Formosa's Law applies.

    4. Re:...and nobody came. by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      thirty days.

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    5. Re:...and nobody came. by noh8rz9 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think we should put mcafee and assange in a cage match and see who comes out victorious.

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    6. Re:...and nobody came. by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      My money is on the women that hold the round number cards.

    7. Re:...and nobody came. by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      I'd say Monday night's game is gonna be very interesting.

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    8. Re:...and nobody came. by PNutts · · Score: 2

      Seriously, how long are we going to keep feeding this poor nutcase's attention habit?

      When he stops acting like Charlie Sheen giving Britney Spears a piggyback ride.

    9. Re:...and nobody came. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. There is no way a government can be corrupt.

    10. Re:...and nobody came. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >how long are we going to keep feeding this poor nutcase's attention habit?

      until he's a free man....

      and if you do a bit of research you'll find he's neither poor nor a nutcase.. and needs the attention or he'd be dead already. Seriously.

    11. Re:...and nobody came. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think we should put mcafee and assange in a cage match and see who comes out victorious.

      I know if we put you back in your cage humanity will be victorious.

    12. Re:...and nobody came. by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      Not if the accusations on McAfee and Assange turn out to be true.

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    13. Re:...and nobody came. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their corruption didn't seem to be a problem when he was just using them to evade US taxes, no?

    14. Re:...and nobody came. by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      We had the most interesting football game of the season yesterday - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20571835 . That didn't help.

    15. Re:...and nobody came. by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      perhaps until he realizes it's all hate

    16. Re:...and nobody came. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May God help us against Brady. Where's Tonya Harding and her knee-whacking boyfriend when you need them.

    17. Re:...and nobody came. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crap. Now I have this image stuck in my had and the imaginary voices in my head hum the Strek Trek fight music ...

    18. Re:...and nobody came. by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 1

      Association, American, Canadian, Gaelic or rugby?

  2. Yeah, I'll get right on that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Right after I watch Dexter and Homeland, and go to sleep.

    1. Re:Yeah, I'll get right on that by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Right after I watch Dexter and Homeland, and go to sleep.

      no new episodes tonight.

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    2. Re:Yeah, I'll get right on that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sure there are, the penultimate episodes of their seasons.

    3. Re:Yeah, I'll get right on that by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Sure there are, the penultimate episodes of their seasons.

      ya, dumb ass me. I was looking at starz in the listing instead of showtime. No walking dead or boardwalk empire though.

      At least this is the type of mistakes i don't mind making.

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    4. Re:Yeah, I'll get right on that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was blown away by Dexter tonight.

    5. Re:Yeah, I'll get right on that by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      Walking what and Boardwalk who?

      Fuck that shit, it's Dexter time.

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    6. Re:Yeah, I'll get right on that by ArhcAngel · · Score: 3, Funny

      Was blown away by Dexter tonight.

      Good! Whatever you did I'm sure you deserved to get blown away by Dexter...

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  3. I don't know about the man... by neverwhere9 · · Score: 1

    He may be a wonderful person. I've heard little about him, and it's good that he's trying to fight corruption in government (good luck to him). But does anyone actually like McAfee Antivirus? I always think of it as something non tech-savvy parents and grandparents use.

    1. Re:I don't know about the man... by Zuriel · · Score: 1

      It's something that just turns up on the computers of the non-tech-savvy, like browser toolbars. Since users never know how it got there, I can only assume that McAfee ninjas are sneaking in and installing it in the dead of night.

    2. Re:I don't know about the man... by mrmaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wonderful person?! Do a quick google search about some of the interviews he has given or about WHY he moved to Belize. He's not fighting corruption. He's fighting for his ego.

    3. Re:I don't know about the man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      yes a good man indeed, good enough to start cooking up experimental drugs using drain cleaner that he feeds to his 17 year old fuckdolls (he is in his late 60's) and murder his neighbor, we need more people in the world like McAfee

    4. Re:I don't know about the man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being questioned for the murder of your neighbor is government corruption now?

    5. Re:I don't know about the man... by neverwhere9 · · Score: 1

      Wow, okay. Just did. Again. I didn't know. I guess that's what I get for just reading the blurb and not clicking the links/Googling...

    6. Re:I don't know about the man... by MisterSquid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Following the advice of someone upthread, I googled why McAffee moved to Belize and came up with "Four hours with John McAffee" by Adam Thomson, a lively and entertaining read.

      The article tells the story of McAffee's education, flight from school, and nearly accidental entrepreneurship and helped me to understand what there is to admire about him, especially given all that I knew about him was that the software bearing his name seems to be reviled by anyone with a technological clue and that he seems to be involved in some kind of chicanery that led to the execution of his neighbor.

      On of my favorite parts of the article is its last paragraph, which seems to reveal McAffee has a sense of (ironic) perspective somewhere in among the fantasies occupying his mind:

      We took some pictures, shook hands and said our farewells. There was just one more question, though: “Do you have McAfee antivirus on your computer?” He looked at me and put down his cigarette. “I take it off,” he said. “It’s too annoying.”

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    7. Re:I don't know about the man... by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

      With all the results about his recent legal battles and arrest, I have no clue how you managed to find older interviews of him in a Google search.

    8. Re:I don't know about the man... by neverwhere9 · · Score: 2

      I didn't have to look far. Just back a few pages. Bing search, too, if that makes much difference.

    9. Re:I don't know about the man... by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Google lets you easily search specific time periods.

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    10. Re:I don't know about the man... by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I just tried Bing, but by the time I got to around page 20 (skipping every 4-5 pages), I was given a captcha trying to get me to type some bullshit hard-to-read gibberish in to verify I'm not a machine. Fuck that shit, and I'll pass on using Bing in the future. Nice try, Microsoft. Not only did I still not find anything relevant, I was unable to skip through the search results to actually find something of interest without being bothered and accused of being a malicious computer.

      "We know you want to get back to searching, and we want to help you do that.
      We ask that you view the characters in the following picture and enter them in the box below."

      Sure they want to help me get back to searching. Goodbye, Bing. You've helped immensely at reminding me that there are better search engines out there, where even if I still can't find something relevant for a particular query, at least their sites don't actively get in the way and prevent you from viewing the results.

    11. Re:I don't know about the man... by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

      Ah, after a quick look I thought it had to be in there somewhere but didn't find it. After some more searching, I did finally find it. It's under Search Tools; I thought it would be under Advanced search.

    12. Re:I don't know about the man... by BeanThere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I did a "quick google search" and I still don't get it - it looks like he was trying to develop new forms of antibiotics, which could help cure disease - is that evil? He bought some property and sold it again? Is that evil? Should I do a slow Google search rather, or are you perhaps just going to provide us some direct links?

    13. Re:I don't know about the man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He moved to the Belize because he was running from the police. His "antibiotics lab" is apparently a drug lab, if you follow his later postings on the internet. According to those same posts, he likes to make drugs that "increase sexual apetite". Also, the women he uses them on seem to tend to be underage.

    14. Re:I don't know about the man... by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      Why would you like him? He's a sex-obsessed, drug-manufacturing, drug-addicted asshole.

    15. Re:I don't know about the man... by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      "Antibiotics" is a euphemism for something a lot more dodgy here, and it is most likely these "antibiotics" or "bath salts" that are making him behave like a madman.

  4. Human rights advocate? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    John McAfee, famed antivirus software pioneer and human rights advocate...

    I would have worded that slightly differently. Maybe something like this:

    John McAfee, famed antivirus software pioneer, paranoiac, hedonistic designer drug addict, possible crack head, and guy with a really bad dye job...

    Yes... Maybe something like that.

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    1. Re:Human rights advocate? by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 2

      You took the words right out of my mouth. Since when is John McAfee a human rights activist? Smells WAY more to me like the guy is a totally out of control ego on a short road to hell. It wouldn't surprise me ONE BIT if he DID piss someone off in Belize. He's exactly 'that guy' that will push something until someone pushes back and then its all the rest of the world's fucking fault because heaven forbid someone inconvenienced the asshole or didn't give him what he wanted. People like this tend to get squashed like bugs. Especially in some backwater little place like Belize where the difference between the law and what some official decides is going to be convenient to be the law today you asshole are not real different.

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    2. Re:Human rights advocate? by ultranova · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't surprise me ONE BIT if he DID piss someone off in Belize.

      Or it could be even simpler: his neighbour/enemy turned up dead, he bolted, the police want him for questioning, and now he's making excuses to avoid justice.

      Nothing in this case seems to suggest any kind of corruption on Belize authorities part, so why assume it? McAfee, on the other hand, sure is making everything he possibly can to appear as a criminal on the run.

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    3. Re:Human rights advocate? by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      So inbetween your barbarous foaming exhortations to violence, can you provide any actual evidence that proves he's done something really wrong/bad to deserve to be the object of violence and to even have due process rights violated?

    4. Re:Human rights advocate? by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      Is it a crime in any jurisdiction to have an "out of control ego" or is that some vague negative thing you just resort/allude to when you have no evidence someone has done something wrong but still feel like using violence against them?

      Giant Electronic Bra: John McAfee deserves to be killed by corrupt cops
      Q: Why? What's he done wrong?
      Giant Electronic Bra: Why it's obvious, he has an "out of control ego" and is on a "short road to hell".
      Q: But what is his crime?
      Giant Electronic Bra: Like I said, he has an "out of control ego"
      Q: But what is his crime?
      Giant Electronic Bra: Don't you get it? He has an out of control ego ... 'guys like this' are sure to get into trouble 'sooner or later'

      etc. etc.

      The irony is that it's guys like you, who bounce up and down eager to violate due process and use violence against random people whether or not you have any evidence, that are actually exactly what you describe .. out of control egos that cause trouble for innocent people.

    5. Re:Human rights advocate? by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 1

      Yeah, of course. I sort of thought that one went without saying. I mean the neighbor he didn't get along with turned up with a bullet in his head, kinda suggestive already. Of course that doesn't mean the officials down there aren't pissed at the guy. I suspect any way you cut it he's pretty much boned, and I figure at some level he did it to himself.

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    6. Re:Human rights advocate? by Desler · · Score: 1

      No one is saying he deserves to be killed. Also, how do you know he hasn't done this crime?

    7. Re:Human rights advocate? by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 1

      What exhortations to violence? lol. Did you mispost or something? I didn't say a thing about what SHOULD happen. I didn't even say anything about what WILL happen. I just commented on the apparent personality traits of John McAfee, something any average human being is certainly qualified to observe. For the record everyone deserves fair justice. I don't know if he will get it or not, but I in no way shape or form advocate anything else.

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    8. Re:Human rights advocate? by ACE209 · · Score: 1

      Also, how do you know he hasn't done this crime?

      I bet he does not. He probably is just one of those old school "Innocent until proven guilty" hippies.

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    9. Re:Human rights advocate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect that the story was submitted (and the actual article created) by people being paid to run an anti-smear campaign to bolster his popularity. That's really about the only possible reason for the glowing praise of him in the summary.

      Because seriously... that'd be like someone writing an article on OJ Simpson being an all-around good guy who was just 'wronged by the system' or something.

    10. Re:Human rights advocate? by AdamWill · · Score: 1

      And the accepted way for people to be proven guilty is for them to be brought to trial. McAfee appears to believe not in 'innocent until proven guilty', as he's dead set against giving anyone a chance to prove him guilty in court. He appears to believe in 'innocent until caught'.

    11. Re:Human rights advocate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strange that none of the people you have responded to have said one word about using violence against *anybody*, not even a hint. Nor have they given the slightest suggestion that they think due process should be violated in any way. Nor that they think that having an "out of control ego" is a crime for which anybody should be punished.

      Yet you claim they say all of these things. Apparently you see them say things that aren't there and react irrationally.

      Are you John McAfee?

  5. thought experiment by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be funny if this McAfee guy was telling the truth?

    Just because you're weird doesn't mean you're a liar. I'm not saying he's not cuckoo, but stranger things have happened than what McAfee is asserting happened to him.

    I just hope he doesn't get hurt and doesn't hurt anyone. And I hope he's merely delusional.

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    1. Re:thought experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thoughts exactly. I think he got involved with a whole host of shady characters and there are many who probably want him dead. Not surprising at all.

    2. Re:thought experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Living in a corrupt country myself for the last 6 years, I'm inclined to believe at least some of what he says. Growing up in a western country it's very hard to understand how corrupted a place can be without spending significant time there.

    3. Re:thought experiment by linatux · · Score: 1

      Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you

    4. Re:thought experiment by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This. The rule of law is a very ephemeral thing in much of the world, and you can sit there whining about your rights for as long as it takes you to be dragged out into a back alley and ended. That doesn't mean McAfee is innocent, but I'm a big fan of the "until proven guilty" part of that picture myself.

    5. Re:thought experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Living in a corrupt country myself for the last 6 years, I'm inclined to believe at least some of what he says. Growing up in a western country it's very hard to understand how corrupted a place can be without spending significant time there.

      No, it's really not hard. For those living in the largest western country, anyway, just dig into your local government a bit, and you'll see how corrupt that is, vs. what it appears to joe on the street, then you'll have no trouble understanding how bad it can get where they don't need to keep up appearances.

    6. Re:thought experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is amazing how little people understand about the way the world works outside of the major countries. To me Mcaffe's fear seems totally reasonable. The guy can be a bit weird at times, but that doesn't make him guilty.

    7. Re:thought experiment by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      It is amazing how little people understand about the way the world works outside of the major countries. To me Mcaffe's fear seems totally reasonable. The guy can be a bit weird at times, but that doesn't make him guilty.

      Yes, but it does make him delusional for thinking that he either lived by some different special rules with different special privileges because HE was from a "first world" country, or equally as delusional thinking he had the power to change a corrupt Banana Republic...

      The man is nuttier that rap crap in a pistachio factory.

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    8. Re:thought experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the dumbest fucking comment I've ever read on this site. If your comment is the norm, then I guess I should throw out the majority of software devs who exhibit eccentric tendencies?

    9. Re:thought experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my observation just is that weird software developers have a tendency to commit dangerous things.

    10. Re:thought experiment by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      delusional for thinking that he either lived by some different special rules with different special privileges

      Wow, you REALLY do not get third world countries at all. That is pretty much the definition of a third world country, lots of people living by special rules with different special privileges.

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    11. Re:thought experiment by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      I grew up in a corrupt third world country so I also have a fair understanding, and agree it gives a different perspective.

      Like the guy or not, being civilized means we believe in the global principles of due process, which means yes, even for people whose personalities we don't like.

    12. Re:thought experiment by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it does make him delusional for thinking that he either lived by some different special rules with different special privileges because HE was from a "first world" country

      Due process is not a "special privilege", it's a basic, fundamental human right that should be afforded to all human beings on earth. Due process may not be universally applied, but the principles of due process are universal.

    13. Re:thought experiment by Crimey+McBiggles · · Score: 1

      my observation is that psychopathic non-techie CEOs have a tendency to commit dangerous things. troll

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    14. Re:thought experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The extent of corruption in the United States is not well known.

      A sitting Senator did an interview with CSPAN with little to no filtering about the variety, methods and scale of the corruption. Our handling of money is egregious and deeply self destructive.

      http://booktv.org/Program/14027/In+Depth+Senator+Tom+Coburn.aspx

    15. Re:thought experiment by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Most of us live in America so we know.

    16. Re:thought experiment by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Well, you're wrong. If you're in China, due process is a special privilege. Don't believe me? Go to China and join a government protest. See how the President's son gets escorted out by smiling unarmed riot police, while the rest of you mooks get run over with tanks and beaten with bamboo rods? That's because you're not specially privileged.

      You can cry about "fundamental human rights" all you want, but you're still getting fisted by a giant gorilla in a country that doesn't have a special piece of paper creating those imaginary rights.

    17. Re:thought experiment by Quila · · Score: 1

      Given a third-world country, this is a perfectly plausible scenario:

      He gets to live there and do whatever the hell he wants. He is above the law. He can do this as long as he keeps the right people happy, and the right bribes flowing. His lawyer was a government official familiar with the bribe system, so he was probably the one advising him on the proper bribes and ass-kissing.

      But then he pisses someone off, forgets a bribe, or one of the officials finds out his bribe is less than others, or something else like that. They murder his neighbor and try to pin it on him. They call him in for "questioning" but really they will either make him disappear out of revenge, or squeeze him for major cash.

    18. Re:thought experiment by xski · · Score: 1

      You must be new. Stick around. It gets much, much better (or worse, depending on your perspective).

    19. Re:thought experiment by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Wow, you REALLY do not get third world countries at all.I've lived in several "third world countries", but I never think I can "change" the politics, I play by the rules and pay who needs to be paid.

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    20. Re:thought experiment by AdamWill · · Score: 1

      Sigh. Again, people seem to be taking McAfee's description of Belize at face value.

      Tip: don't. It's a former British colony with a by-and-large functional democracy and court system. And he _fricking well chose to live there_, to take advantage of its lax law enforcement regarding taxes and/or drugs. Seems a bit rich to start loudly protesting about said legal system once it stops serving your ends.

    21. Re:thought experiment by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      For those living in the largest western country, anyway, just dig into your local government a bit, and you'll see how corrupt that is

      Funny you say this. A few years ago, I did get involved with my city government, working with a city council member on a few projects.

      I was surprised to learn, even in this big city with bad reputation (Chicago), just how little corruption there was compared to the conventional wisdom. With a very few exceptions, the people who worked in the government were honest and civic-minded. They had accepted public service when many could have made a much better living in the private sector.

      Today, working (as something of an outsider) in one of the biggest public high schools in a very bad neighborhood, I have learned something similar about Chicago public high school teachers: They are uniformly hard-working and dedicated. They make less money than people believe and can absolutely lose their jobs if they don't perform. Once again, the stereotype of the "teachers union thug" was as far from the truth as it could be.

      Don't believe all the hype.

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  6. Also, the sky is blue, and water is wet by Gothmolly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A Central American government with widespread corruption? Say it isn't so !

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  7. Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the begining of all this I still cant think this is anything other than a publicity stunt, maybe its just me.

    1. Re:Hmm.. by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      Since the begining of all this I still cant think this is anything other than a publicity stunt, maybe its just me.

      Why would he need to do that? He is already Number One out of all the available options. - McAfee

  8. The guy has sex with underage girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not to mention the drugs, founder of awful antivirus, etc. I do not care about his fate.

    1. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      underage is subjective, in PARTS of the USA yes, other parts no, other countries maybe, some countries they are a year past the age.

      jesus did not come down from disney world and say "thou shal not fuck a girl until 1 second past her 18th birthday", shit his mom was married as soon as she started to bleed

    2. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by bonehead · · Score: 3, Insightful

      founder of awful antivirus

      Actually, it used to be really good antivirus software.

      Of course, the dominant PC operating system at that time was MS-DOS 3.3, but still, it used to be pretty good.

    3. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Interesting

      17 is not underage in most of the world.

    4. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He did say that, it's in Mark's part I believe

    5. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by stephanruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The guy has sex with underage girls

      Not that same BS again about Samantha being underage.

      As much as some of you are repulsed by the idea of a 66 years old man with a 20 years old younger woman, that doesn't make her remotely underage.

    6. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It violates the law of creepiness.

    7. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because you're probably not much older. For those of us closer to John's age, it's something to dream about.

    8. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The guy has sex with underage girls

      So are you claiming that you willingly and purposely put effort into remaining a virgin until after you turned 18?
      Right. Let's just say I don't believe you.

      Not to mention that even if it was true, you personally yourself have also had sex with underage girls, following your own definition. (Of course I am assuming you have had sex at least once... I won't be cruel and will give you the benefit of the doubt here)

      In Madagascar the legal age of consent is 21. If you have had sex with anyone under the age of 21, you have had sex with underage girls, as defined by that country.

      Do you also realize how many countries have their legal age of consent at 13 or 14 years old?

      13 years old: Japan, Spain, and Syria
      14 years old: Albania, Bolivia, Bosnia, Columbia (for males, it's 12 for females!), Estonia, Georgia, Germany, Guatemala, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Lesotho, Liechtenstein, Moldova, Panama, Puerto Rico, and Swaziland.

      The one point that matters is the law in Belize however.
      There, the age of consent is 16 for unmarried females, and 14 for married.

      Let me repeat that for you: 16 and 17 year old girls are NOT underage in Belize! Hell, he could have gone even younger than he did if he married her first, and would still be perfectly legal.

      You accusing a person of having underage sex when in fact the girls were perfectly of age in that country is absolutely no different than me accusing you of having sex with underage girls because it is defined as over 18 in other countries.

      So how would you like to revise your statement? Is McAfee not a child molester, or are you admitting to being one instead?

    9. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      20 years old is not "underage", but don't let things like facts stop you from lying.

    10. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 2

      I'm 34 and to be honest the idea of having sex with anyone under the age of about 22 is getting creepier and more unappealing with each year that goes by. I think I went off the idea of sleeping with 17 year olds when I was about 20. Should I to expect some kind of mid-life crisis related reversion around 50 r something? How much older are you talking about?

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    11. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by westlake · · Score: 1

      17 is not underage in most of the world.

      16 in Belize, 18 in Guatemala. Ages of consent in North America But generalizations are dangerous and law and custom may differ --- something the American expatriate of a certain age would do well to remember.

    12. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

      Just stopping to ask those questions is probably why you won't be celebrating retirement by ending up on a sex offenders register.

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    13. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      17 is not underage in most parts of the world. In Belieze, they are legal at 16. The UK, where I live is the same except that if you are in a "position of responsibility" in respect of the person in question, eg their teacher, you have to wait until they are 18.

    14. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haters will hate, but I love young girls sexiness, and I love drugs. I see nothing wrong with that.

    15. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm 34 and to be honest the idea of having sex with anyone under the age of about 22 is getting creepier and more unappealing with each year that goes by. I think I went off the idea of sleeping with 17 year olds when I was about 20.

      Quoted for truth.

    16. Re:The guy has sex with underage girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You accusing a person of having underage sex when in fact the girls were perfectly of age in that country is absolutely no different than me accusing you of having sex with underage girls because it is defined as over 18 in other countries.

      Or accusing him of rape when partner #1 changes their mind ex post facto when learning there's a partner #2.

  9. must-see TV by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm going to pitch a reality show to the networks starring McAfee, Julian Assange and Kim Dotcom.

    The Larry, Moe and Curly of Internet head cases. And each week they travel the world to interview other Internet head cases that are simultaneously heroes and repulsive. Hilarity and pie fights ensue.

    The opening credits are their three faces, arranged side by side in the manner of the famous opening for Three Stooges episodes. Or maybe dress them up like D'Artagnan, Porthos and Aramis. Or Groucho, Harpo and Chico.

    Tell me you wouldn't watch those three lovable knuckleheads get into trouble and adventure. Get some woman to play a Margaret Dumont type character and you've really got a hit on your hands.

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    1. Re:must-see TV by Nyder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm going to pitch a reality show to the networks starring McAfee, Julian Assange and Kim Dotcom.

      The Larry, Moe and Curly of Internet head cases. ...

      While I can understand calling McAfee a head case, not sure what Julian or Kim have done to be called that.

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    2. Re:must-see TV by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      who would play Athos?

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    3. Re:must-see TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kiefer Sutherland, of course.

    4. Re:must-see TV by macraig · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... interview other Internet head cases that are simultaneously heroes and repulsive.

      I presume their first guest will be Richard Stallman?

    5. Re:must-see TV by bonehead · · Score: 1

      The Larry, Moe and Curly of Internet head cases. And each week they travel the world to interview other Internet head cases

      So, clearly RMS would be the first guest?

    6. Re:must-see TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not sure what Julian... [has] done to be called that.

      Oh, I'm sorry, you must have just woken up from a coma. That's the only way I can imagine you haven't been able to watch or read any news coverage involving Mr. Assange over the last two years.

      I'm glad to hear you didn't go into the light, but you really should try to catch up - you've missed quite a bit, and the news involving Mr. Assange is a fucking HOOT.

    7. Re:must-see TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't turn it off...

    8. Re:must-see TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      RMS, then Hans Reiser, then Terry Childs.

      Then, perhaps... Felicia Day? Just to make sure that the geeks keep tuning in.

    9. Re:must-see TV by antdude · · Score: 1

      I would totally watch it even if it is on cable/satellite. [grin]

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    10. Re:must-see TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, those pretentious people who try to get attention without going the institutionally approved route! /s

      Whether they have anything important to say is one matter (I'd say Assange yes, McAfee no, Dotcom no idea). But your attempt at heaping scorn on them reeks of old media sour grapes - either you are one or more likely you lapped it up from them.

    11. Re:must-see TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd stream it on MegaVideo.

    12. Re:must-see TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See, that is the problem, IT WOULD BE A HIT.
      Those damned media companies don't want this at all! It all makes sense now! Big Media are holding back this show!

      Dotcom was on his way to make Mega his own TV site.
      Assange was getting the contacts.
      McAfee was getting hammered off his face.
      All the maths add up now!

    13. Re:must-see TV by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      While I can understand calling McAfee a head case, not sure what Julian or Kim have done to be called that.

      I meant "head case" as a term of endearment. I'm a big fan of Assange, though I'm not sure I'd want to be his friend. There is much to admire about him.

      Dotcom is a lovable lunk and I had a dear friend in college who was a lot like McAfee.

      I also use "head case" in reference to ego.

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    14. Re:must-see TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to pitch a reality show to the networks starring McAfee, Julian Assange and Kim Dotcom.

      The Larry, Moe and Curly of Internet head cases.

      You forgot Richard Stallman as Shemp

    15. Re:must-see TV by clintp · · Score: 1

      RMS would be the stuffy guy they'd hit with a cream pie in every episode.

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    16. Re:must-see TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anybody that knows Swedish law knows Assange and his lawyers have knowingly lied a number of times. Among them how rape trials work in Sweden (including the little fact that conviction rates is in line of other western countries and that just saying no to sex isn't enough as reinforced in a recent court case), how extradition works (including the little fact that Sweden _never_ extradites anyone that can potentially be executed unless given assurance that will not happen - which US can't in most cases due to their legal system) and how Sweden follows US orders (very funny considering he later stayed in GB).

      And even someone that believes Assanges lies should ask themselves why he choose to go to Sweden and stay there quite publicly (even after the accusations against him BTW) if merely visiting would mean extradition to the US as he and his liars later claimed.

      Assange is a narcissistic liar with no interest but himself as people that have been in contact with him can affirm - Wikileaks was for him a platform to make himself known nothing else.

    17. Re:must-see TV by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      fail.

      I was looking for Alan Turing.

      Would you like to go for the Daily Double, where things can really change??

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  10. Intel by millst · · Score: 1

    Intel (owners of McAfee the company), must be rolling their eyes wondering how they can shut the nut up. The damage it is doing to the McAfee brand must be significant.

    1. Re:Intel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They are probably the ones who put the hit out :)

    2. Re:Intel by bonehead · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The damage it is doing to the McAfee brand must be significant.

      Surely it can't compete with the damage to the brand that's been caused by the software, can it?

  11. systems running mcafee are in grave danger of runn by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    systems running mcafee are in grave danger of ruining slow or crashing.

  12. Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh John? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    How's dodging taxes working out for you? USA due process seems pretty good now, right? Maybe even USA jails.

    You know what, fuck you. You didn't want to be here. So fine, you get to stay there, wherever it is. Fuck you.

  13. In for a penny, in for a pound. by westlake · · Score: 2

    Mr. McAfee has accused the Belize government of widespread corruption.

    Says the sixty-seven year old guy who bought an off-shore island retreat for himself, seven barely-of-age sexual playmates, and the chance to fry his brain, and perhaps those of the girls as well, with an unlimited supply of home-brewed psychoactive drugs.

    The guy who escaped to a country

    1. Re:In for a penny, in for a pound. by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Mr. McAfee has accused the Belize government of widespread corruption.

      Says the sixty-seven year old guy who bought an off-shore island retreat for himself

      Indeed, he did choose to live there, and perhaps corruption was a factor leading to that choice: a wonderful country where you live above the law if you have money. Now things turned wrong, it is time to complain about corruption.

    2. Re:In for a penny, in for a pound. by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Replying to undo incorrect moderation You're absolutely right.

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    3. Re:In for a penny, in for a pound. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Mr. McAfee has accused the Belize government of widespread corruption.

      Says the sixty-seven year old guy who bought an off-shore island retreat for himself, seven barely-of-age sexual playmates, and the chance to fry his brain, and perhaps those of the girls as well, with an unlimited supply of home-brewed psychoactive drugs.

      Since you describe the girls as barely legal they must in fact be legal, so I'm having a hard time finding anything in his actions that justify framing him for murder. (I don't know if that's what happened, but that's his assertion, so it's he talking point.)

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    4. Re:In for a penny, in for a pound. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I highly doubt it was the 'barely legal women' part that had him framed for murder (if he was framed to begin with)... but you seriously don't see anything wrong with someone who's 67 years old having a harem of 18 year old girls, while under the influence of psychoactive drugs? Seriously, that doesn't... strike you as a bit 'not right'? That's a perfectly acceptable living situation to you?

      God damn man, remind me to never live in whatever backwater town you live in.

    5. Re:In for a penny, in for a pound. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I highly doubt it was the 'barely legal women' part that had him framed for murder (if he was framed to begin with)... but you seriously don't see anything wrong with someone who's 67 years old having a harem of 18 year old girls, while under the influence of psychoactive drugs?

      In their country, it may well have been better than the other opportunities they had available. I see it as a problem, but as the symptom, not the disease.

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  14. Rectal Insertion by Ranger · · Score: 1

    And this is from a guy on "super perv powder" who "recommended that the most effective way to take a dose is via rectal insertion, a procedure known as "plugging," writing: "Measure your dose, apply a small amount of saliva to just the tip of your middle finger, press it against the dose, insert. Doesn't really hurt as much as it sounds." Yeah, McAfee is so credible.

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  15. Tabloid Content? by stevegee58 · · Score: 1

    I'm starting to not find this whacko's bizarre behavior interesting. It has nothing to do with technology, just someone with too much money and time on his hands.

  16. I too tempted myself with Trial Mcafee ware. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only I wet my finger with some of my sterile urine I keep in one of many gallon jugs under my Bunk bed. With the flick of that whetted thumbnail, I sliced the adhesive sticker in such a way that I could reseal it to return to Fry's for a Full refund. Make sure you get yours that wasn't a Customer Return. It may have all kinds of side effects since unable to install due to pre-uswed Tokens. After I tried the Mcaffee method, I removed it promptly and somehow got the Clam AV.

  17. More of this please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we need more people in the world like McAfee

    Entrepreneurs?

    1. Re:More of this please by KidMuddy · · Score: 1

      Job creators.

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  18. John McAfee human rights advocate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like, where when ?
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  19. NOT - tyvm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather watch Pawn Stars, which I believe to be one of the low points (if there can be said to be such a thing without being redundant) in Reality TV.

    TY - tyvm... (Elvis, King of the Damned)

  20. Re:systems running mcafee are in grave danger of r by pjtp · · Score: 1

    systems running mcafee are in grave danger of ruining slow or crashing.

    Isn't that how systems running McAfee usually run?

  21. You Hypocrites! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Funny

    "McAfee's an egomaniacal, drug-addled degenerate! Let me ignore this please! I have to entertain myself with tales of honorable serial-killers!"

    I'm pretty sure that there isn't one of you, who'd not give his right-nut, for just ONE of John McAfee's weekends...

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    1. Re:You Hypocrites! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure that there isn't one of you, who'd not give his right-nut, for just ONE of John McAfee's weekends...

      Dude, I wouldn't take a lifetime with a succession of sexually appealing women while driving fast cars and drinking Tequila for one hour of his time.

      And that's even assuming that the former option wouldn't be shorter, which it would be for some folks.

    2. Re:You Hypocrites! by Molt · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that there isn't one of you, who'd not give his right-nut, for just ONE of John McAfee's weekends...

      I have heard good things about the weekends in Guatemalan prisons but I doubt they're worth a whole nut.

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    3. Re:You Hypocrites! by interval1066 · · Score: 0

      Some may ask why he's acting like a paranoiac. I'm guessin' the last 10 years of constant meth use...

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    4. Re:You Hypocrites! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, not much for bath salts, murder and sex with minors.

  22. Bath Salts, Orgies, Murder and Anti-Virus Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What an epitaph .. link.

  23. Irony by asmkm22 · · Score: 3

    I find it kind of funny how a guy that left America to avoid paying taxes is now hoping to get back in due to (as he claims) being framed for a murder after not paying bribes to the government. Oh, so now you want to pay taxes and get my sympathy? Nice.

    1. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't taxes he was fleeing, it was a lawsuit.

    2. Re:Irony by BeanThere · · Score: 2

      ??? You do realize that under US taxation law, US citizens are required to pay taxes on income earned globally wherever they are in the world? You can go live in the most remote spot in Antarctica and you are still required to pay your taxes on every cent you earn.

    3. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not quite correct.
      You are required to file a tax return and report the income, but you are entitled to a foreign earned income exclusion for anything up to a certain amount, which is currently a little more than $90k per year. So if you are not earning more than that, then you do not pay anything to the IRS, let alone "on every cent you earn."

    4. Re:Irony by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      That's not actually true. If you live primarily outside of the country and earn income primarily outside the country, you aren't liable for taxes. If your income is earned primarily inside the country--if you work for a USA-based contractor and you're in another country doing the work--you pay taxes. Sometimes. It really depends.

    5. Re:Irony by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      Not ironic at all. First of all, American citizens are almost unique in that we are subject to double taxation, first by our host governments and then by the U.S. government. Other countries don't pull this shit.

      Second, where's the "he wants to pay taxes now" thing? Where was that? I must have missed it in the article.

      Third, since when is your status with the IRS any sort of grounds for being refused help from your own government? When did this happen?

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    6. Re:Irony by grumpyman · · Score: 1

      It's fair deal. So by renouncing citizenship, one does not need to pay US tax, but on the same token, can't go knock on the door of US embassy for help.

    7. Re:Irony by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2

      I don't believe that's correct; if you are a US citizen, live outside the US and work outside the US, you are still liable to pay US taxes. Now, there is a fairly generous exclusion you can claim that, for most people, will completely nullify their tax obligation. But if you earn enough money (for 2011, the amount was US$92,900), you will still be liable for taxes on the marginal amount above the exclusion.

      It's called the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion.

    8. Re:Irony by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      It's actually about $15,000 higher than that, because you can take a housing deduction amounting to 16% of the maximum exclusion, which this year is $95,000, or your actual housing expenses if higher. If you make under $95k and you're present in a non-US country 330 days of the year, you're tax-exempt. If you make over $95k you theoretically pay taxes; but really you just file the minimum $15k deduction, giving you up to $110k tax-free. If you make more than that, you set up a foreign shell corporation.

    9. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't leave America to avoid paying taxes. In fact the IRS taxes you on your global income, with only a small exemption.

      You cannot avoid taxes simply by leaving America. Even if you expatriate and renounce your citizenship, you have to pay a significant exit tax (about the same as the inheritance tax) on your total net worth on your way out the door.

    10. Re:Irony by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      Setting up a "foreign shell corporation" doesn't specifically help you, because the moment you pay yourself anything out of it (e.g. income / dividends) that income is also taxable. It's also not trivial; also, shell corporations and income earned overseas is still liable for local taxation. You make like sitting in a foreign country means you sit and avoid taxes, it's not true, you have to pay the local taxes as well the US taxes.

    11. Re:Irony by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      It's "fair" except for the part that taxation is theft and that being present on US soil is a natural right, while deportation is an act of initiation of force and a violation of natural rights. But other than that, sure, very fair.

  24. Re:Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh Jo by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

    You talk as if the good old USA federal government doesn't have its own serious set of corruption issues. Hint: it's full of them too. Pick your poison. That said, leaving the U.S. for Belize, of all countries, was an incredibly stupid move. Surely there are some much better places in the world to pick from.

  25. Why isn't he trying to be sent to the US? by rollingcalf · · Score: 2

    Guatemala wants to deport him to Belize, but he is a US citizen. Instead of trying to stay in Guatemala, I would think he has a better chance of convincing them to return him to the US (at his expense, due to the greater distance compared to Belize) than of being allowed to stay in Guatemala.

    But I see no sign that he's trying to go back to the US. Did he surrender his US citizenship?

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    1. Re:Why isn't he trying to be sent to the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most likely to avoid paying US taxes... In which case I will not stop laughing for a week. Which would be not too keen seeing how its finals week.

    2. Re:Why isn't he trying to be sent to the US? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      If he returns to the US, he has to stand trial for all US crimes he's violated. Sex with an underaged (under 18) person (even if local law says younger is age-of-consent), use of illegal substances, anything that violates US federal statutes.

    3. Re:Why isn't he trying to be sent to the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last I checked, age of consent was determined by states, not by federal statute.
      Drugs are scheduled (classified) by the DEA, a federal agency, but it is state laws that criminalize possession/distribution/manufacture. Also, use of controlled (or illegal, as you put it) substances is not itself a violation of any federal law.
      In fact, very few US laws are applicable beyond the jurisdiction of the USA. That should seem like a tautology. If anything, you should be wondering why i say "very few" and not "no". I'm aware, however, that it is a violation of US law for a US citizen to possess a Cuban cigar, whether in the United States or anywhere else. While our laws relating to age of consent and drugs are batshit insane in this great nation of ours, I'm happy to report that they're still not quite as insane as our hatred of Cuba.

    4. Re:Why isn't he trying to be sent to the US? by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      But I see no sign that he's trying to go back to the US. Did he surrender his US citizenship?

      It's been reported in news stories and by McAfee himself that he spoke with the American embassy in Guatemala about returning to the US. They said they wouldn't help him. Presumably something about respecting the sovereignty of both Guatemala and Belize, and the right of each to enforce its own laws on people within its own borders.

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    5. Re:Why isn't he trying to be sent to the US? by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      If he returns to the US, he has to stand trial for all US crimes he's violated. Sex with an underaged (under 18) person (even if local law says younger is age-of-consent), use of illegal substances, anything that violates US federal statutes.

      Don't be ridiculous. Have you never left the country, ever? Immigration and customs does not ask you whether you have ever used drugs or how old the people you've slept with are. If McAfee has been convicted of serious crimes in foreign countries there may be problems, and if he's wanted by law enforcement in other countries he may be arrested in the US, but only to be turned over to those authorities to stand trial. There is no retroactive "things you may have done in some country, at some time in your life, which violate US law, for which you now must stand trial under US law" clause.

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    6. Re:Why isn't he trying to be sent to the US? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      See the Mann Act. Also if you ever go to a theater in some third world country (Romania? Cambodia? Where is 12 year old porn legal?) to watch child pornography, and it's known--prosecutable--then you will be arrested upon re-entering the country, since that kind of thing is illegal in the US. There was even an article on Slashdot about a guy who got arrested a few years ago for sex with a minor while out of the country (he bragged about it to the border police, thinking he was immune because it wasn't in the US). Technically, if you're under 21 and in Europe, you're not legally allowed to consume or possess alcohol at any time.

  26. Advertisement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, is slashdot getting paid to post this retarded shit about a delusional, obscure loser?

    He hasn't done anything of note in years, and when he was an actual tech person he made shitty software.

  27. my dream is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    judging from the story, going to an island with tons of drugs, money and whores for the rest of your life leads you to insanity and murder, I feel empty and without direction.

  28. Re:Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh Jo by BitZtream · · Score: 1

    You seem to confuse our governments first world problems which are trivial at best with real issues in a central american country.

    You have no clue what a corrupt government is.

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  29. Oh man... by readnotpost · · Score: 1

    I really, really, really hope he's going to announce McAfee Anti-Virus for Linux!

    1. Re:Oh man... by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that would be a little late. It's been around for a very long time now.

      http://www.mcafee.com/us/products/virusscan-enterprise-for-linux.aspx

  30. Re:Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh Jo by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

    Corruption is corruption, no matter how major or minor it is.

  31. Uh-huh. by Arancaytar · · Score: 2

    He's not a murderer and methcook. He's just a victim of circumstance and government conspiracy just like Hans fucking Reiser.

    Who edits this crap?

    1. Re:Uh-huh. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      a victim of the circumstance of murdering his wife, making an ass of himself, then finally accepting a sentencing bargain and leading prosecutors to where he buried the body?

  32. Why do you think he has any say? by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Guatemala wants to deport him to Belize, but he is a US citizen.

    Right here you know something fishy is up.

    Guatemala has no extradition treaty with Belize. The fact that he is an American citizen means that automatically, that is where he should be sent when deported, he has no say in the matter since he has entered the country illegally.

    Being deported to Belize means someone, or many someones are being paid off by Belize.

    Unfortunately for McAffee, he's been deemed wacky enough that the U.S. government seems unlikely to try and help him, even though he'll probably be killed if sent to Belize.

    Fortunately for McAffee, he has a lot of money (apparently). The delay you see in deportation is probably the attempt to get him to out-bid Belize.

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    1. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is deported to the country that requests it for crimes committed there.

      I know that is a strange concept for yanks but hey, butter up buttercup.

    2. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by jittles · · Score: 1

      He is deported to the country that requests it for crimes committed there.

      I know that is a strange concept for yanks but hey, butter up buttercup.

      No; like the GP stated, Guatemala and Belize do not get along. They do not have an extradition treaty and are currently disputing their border. Also he is not a citizen of Belize, so why should they deport him to Belize? When people come into the US illegally from Canada or Mexico, we don't load them back up on a truck and dump them across the boarder. We fly them back to their home country. In this case the only reason he should be sent to Belize is for extradition, and not for entering the country illegally. He really ought to have gone to a US embassy, though I know he doesn't want to return to the US and face the civil law problems he has in the US.

    3. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by jonbryce · · Score: 2

      He is being deported because he is in Guatemala illegally, not because Belize wants him, so extradition treaties aren't relevant here.

      If US border patrols see someone crossing the border from Mexico illegally, I guess they send them straight back. They don't check their passport first, or if they do check their passport, it is to confirm that the crossing was illegal, not to determine where to send them back to.

    4. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He's in Guatemala illegally - when you are deported, you are generally sent back to the country you came from. He fled Belize, he'll be returned to Belize. It's not Guatemala's responsibility to hand him a first class ticket to Miami.

      As far as "extradition" - lack of an extradition treaty does not obligate anybody to refuse an extradition request in any way. Lack of an extradition treaty would mean that, if Belize filed an extradition request with Guatemala, Guatemala could do whatever the fuck they want with that request - honor it, ignore it, wipe their asses with it - whatever they want.

      What WOULD happen in case of a request like that being filed, is that representatives of both countries would come together and negotiate - perhaps he'd be extradited as a result, perhaps he wouldn't. But lack of an extradition treaty doesn't mean "it's impossible to extradite." It just means there's no formal framework for extradition that outlines what conditions are "guaranteed" extradition.

    5. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by westlake · · Score: 1

      Guatemala has no extradition treaty with Belize. The fact that he is an American citizen means that automatically, that is where he should be sent when deported, he has no say in the matter since he has entered the country illegally.

      Since when is an extradition treaty required to return a fugitive from Belize to Belize?

      Belize has a broadly worded "mutual legal assistance" treaty with the U.S. It doesn't have to charge McAfee with a crime before demanding his return. It only has to show that hos testimony is needed and relevant to a a criminal investigation.

    6. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Since when is an extradition treaty required to return a fugitive from Belize to Belize?

      When he's not a citizen of Belize. Then all you can do normally is return the person to the country they have a passport for.

      If I flew to Belize, and snuck into Guatemala I assure you I would not be sent to Belize, I would be deported to the U.S.

      --
      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    7. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      If US border patrols see someone crossing the border from Mexico illegally, I guess they send them straight back.

      And if the U.S. border patrol caught an illegal immigrant from Mexico near the Canadian border, would they send him to Canada? I don't think so. People being deported go back to country of origin.

      --
      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    8. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      If he was in Canada legally, then yes.

    9. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are there international treaties on deportation in this scenario?

      I would imagine deporting someone to their country of residence would be permitted.

    10. Re:Why do you think he has any say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he entered from Canada, then YES, he would. See above, where another AC just quoted you US Immigration law.

      If he had been living illegally in the US for some time, and it was impossible for them to determine where he entered from, then he would likely be sent back to his country of citizenship. But if they detain him crossing the border from Canada, he'll be returned TO CANADA, unless Canada refuses to take him.

  33. Re:Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh Jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think Majoring in a Minor is a serious offense

  34. Just kill the pedophile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ntr

  35. Re:Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh Jo by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 0

    You seem to confuse our governments first world problems which are trivial at best with real issues in a central american country.

    You have no clue what a corrupt government is.

    You're sitting in a hospital, having a routine check-up done. You're in a hospital rather than a regular doctor's office because they need the equipment... the tumor went malignant before they detected the cancer, and now your testicles no longer function, you can't get an erection, you're not sterile. The cancer spread... everywhere. All of your organs are dying. Occasionally you have a loss of lucidity or feeling, but you're numb to pain. The damage is slow, though.. you'll live for another decade, maybe six years at worst. Your life is mostly functional, although you can't exert yourself, your lungs aren't very functional, sometimes you black out, and you could have a stroke or heart attack at any time.

    Somebody points at the poor shithead in the next bed, moaning, crying, reaching out, screaming in delusion as the cancer eats away at his body. He's in constant pain, and has only a few weeks to live; they should probably just lynch him now, it'd be more humane.

    Clearly, you have no clue what cancer is. You're not in any pain and you've got years ahead, quit bitching about your so-called illness.

  36. Re:Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh Jo by j-turkey · · Score: 1

    Yeah...no. It's not the same. As an analogy, that's like saying crime is crime, no matter how major or minor it is when comparing murder to jaywalking.

    America has its fair share of problems, and I sure hope that the US gets better, but I completely disagree with your statement.

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    -Turkey

  37. Hate is strong here by Dunge · · Score: 2

    I only find comments about people hating him without any legit reason, just like Assange. Come on, they are trying to help the population against the business-controlled government who try to take control over everything, let's help them please.

  38. BAZINGA! (also, delete Win32...) by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    Seriously, is slashdot getting paid to post this retarded shit about a delusional, obscure loser?

    He hasn't done anything of note in years, and when he was an actual tech person he made shitty software.

    I'm sorry, are you talking about McAfee or RMS?

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  39. Software Pioneer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Could we please, please, stop calling this horse's ass a "software pioneer". Donald Knuth is as software pioneer. John McAfee is a business man gone feral. Get it?

  40. "Come From" is key by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    He's in Guatemala illegally - when you are deported, you are generally sent back to the country you came from.

    If that were true you could never deport anyone that come in to your country from a place they were not a citizen of.

    Or what happens when they do not know how you entered the country? You just get to stay? They pick a random country and send you there hoping the other country takes you?

    It just happens that in this case Belize wants McAffee. But what if they didn't want to arrest him. Why would Belize WANT to take an American citizen who entered a country illegally?

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:"Come From" is key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that were true you could never deport anyone that come in to your country from a place they were not a citizen of.

      You misunderstand. When I say "back to the country you came from," this means - "back to the country from which you ENTERED ILLEGALLY."

      If they don't know which country you entered from, they will probably deport you to the country which you claim citizenship of, but in this case, it's well known that he entered from Belize, so why should they exert themselves by shipping him to the US?

      Why would Belize WANT to take an American citizen who entered a country illegally

      Well, in *this* case, he's wanted for questioning related to a murder in Belize, which is a pretty damn good reason. In other cases, it's not Guatemala's problem what Belize does with him - Guatemala says, "He's here illegally, he came in from Belize. Belize, here, you take care of him." If Belize elects to deport him from Belize as well, they would probably ship him back to the US, but why should Guatemala spend the money to do that? He's Belize's problem, not Guatemala's.

      The point is, and was - lack of an extradition treaty means squat. There's no obligation to behave in a certain manner just because Belize and Guatemala don't get along. Guatemala and Belize could use this as an excuse to bargain for some border concessions in their ongoing border dispute - "you stop claiming X, Y, Z, and we give you back this guy you're trying to get your hands on for questioning." Or, Guatemala could say, "Fuck you, Belize, just because you want him, we're going to send him somewhere else, put that in your pipe and smoke it."

      If there's no treaty, it's down to diplomatic negotiations between the countries to determine what happens to him.

    2. Re:"Come From" is key by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      You misunderstand. When I say "back to the country you came from," this means - "back to the country from which you ENTERED ILLEGALLY."

      I didn't misunderstand. I was describing what really happens, not your misguided version.

      It is NOT POSSIBLE for a country to deport you to somewhere you are not a citizen.

      The only case that ever happens is when the other country wants them for some crime, hence the totally separate english word "extradition".

      There's no obligation to behave in a certain manner just because Belize and Guatemala don't get along.

      Seriously, fuck laws and treaties and all that! They mean nothing!

      You have a totally ignorant view of the entire world of laws as they relate to borders...

      --
      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    3. Re:"Come From" is key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dipshit, lack of a treaty doesn't oblige ANY action, or any INACTION, on either country's part. Before treaties were invented, countries negotiated ALL international issues through diplomacy, and when diplomacy failed, force of arms. Even with a treaty in effect, a country can choose to disregard the terms of that treaty, though sanctions and possible military action could result from that failure.

      You seem to think that sovereign countries are bound to behave in certain ways by the lack of a treaty. They are not. A treaty obligates them (insofar as they are willing to honor its terms), but lack of a treaty creates no obligation - if there's no treaty obliging them to act in a certain fashion, they can do whatever they want, and negotiate whatever terms they want, with their neighbors.

      As far as this statement:

      It is NOT POSSIBLE for a country to deport you to somewhere you are not a citizen.

      Perhaps you're the one who needs to do a bit more reading. I'd suggest starting with the US Immigration and Nationality Act, specifically, Act 241, which states (emphasis below added to highlight relevant portions):

      (b) Countries to Which Aliens May Be Removed.-
      (1) Aliens arriving at the United States. - Subject to paragraph (3)-
      (A) In general.-Except as provided by subparagraphs (B) and (C), an alien who arrives at the United States and with respect to whom proceedings under section 240 were initiated at the time of such alien's arrival shall be removed to the country in which the alien boarded the vessel or aircraft on which the alien arrived in the United States.
      (B) Travel from contiguous territory.-If the alien boarded the vessel or aircraft on which the alien arrived in the United States in a foreign territory contiguous to the United States, an island adjacent to the United States, or an island adjacent to a foreign territory contiguous to the United States, and the alien is not a native, citizen, subject, or national of, or does not reside in, the territory or island, removal shall be to the country in which the alien boarded the vessel that transported the alien to the territory or island.
      (C) Alternative countries.-If the government of the country designated in subparagraph (A) or (B) is unwilling to accept the alien into that country's territory, removal shall be to any of the following countries, as directed by the Attorney General:
      (i) The country of which the alien is a citizen, subject, or national.
      (ii) The country in which the alien was born.
      (iii) The country in which the alien has a residence.
      (iv) A country with a government that will accept the alien into the country's territory if removal to each country described in a previous clause of this subparagraph is impracticable, inadvisable, or impossible.

      The law only gets to "country of which the alien is a citizen, subject, or national" if Clauses A & B are unable to be satisfied because the government of the country where the traveler boarded the vessel to the US refuses to accept the deportee. Assuming Guatemala's laws work in similar fashion, this is EXACTLY the section of code that McAfee would fall under.

      You have a totally ignorant view of the entire world of laws as they relate to borders...

      Funny, I was about to say the same thing about you. Go ahead, tell me how wrong I am when I just quoted US law which demonstrates that "deportation to country of citizenship" is not the only (or even PREFERRED) process, which directly contradicts your statement that NO COUNTRY would EVER do this. I can't wait for you to school me some more with your blanket assertions that bear no relationship to objective fact.

  41. Re:Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh Jo by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 2

    So when it's Belize or some other central-American country it's corruption, but if it's the United States we're talking about it's "problems?" Just little pesky problems? That sounds like pure hypocrisy to me. If you really want to play the dictionary game, could they not be called "problems" in Belize as well--perhaps just bigger ones?

    That sounds to me like the same reasoning people have when they whine when someone calls other people who are mentally retarded "retarded", and then request that everyone refers to them as being "slow," "special," "challenged" or some other--dare I say it--retarded word. It's the same damn thing, just different wording, purposely more neutral and less negative in connotation, or even pointlessly positive in some cases. All to change the perception.

    Just because corruption is not as bad here doesn't mean that it does not exist.

    For your murder/jaywalking comparison, though I'm not talking about either one here, the United States government considers many relatively harmless, petty things as "crimes" with severe criminal penalties. People get punished hardcore for stupid shit every day here in the U.S. in ways that make their actual "crimes" seem as pathetic as jaywalking. Jails and prisons are meant to keep dangerous people away from society where they cannot harm people, yet with the current laws people are held imprisoned for things that are completely harmless. One famous case in point? Tommy Chong. Time in the slammer with potentially actual dangerous people for being involved in selling glass pipes. People harmed? Zero. Last I heard, no one was beat to death with a fucking bong.

  42. I'll wager on Hans Reiser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Affliction of the super intelligent?

  43. He has money, they won't take all of it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pay up, get it over with, and you're a free man!

  44. Re:systems running mcafee are in grave danger of r by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He sold the company years ago -
    so blame the firm, nothing to do with him anymore!

  45. Re:Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh Jo by j-turkey · · Score: 1

    I never suggested that hypocrisy didn't exist in America...and while I agree that your Tommy Chong example is a valid example of misdirected justice, I'm not really sure how this is relevant to a discussion about political corruption.

    However, I suggest that you go to a country where, in order to get a drivers license or building permit, a bribe must be paid. Go to a country where you have to carry a little extra cash, just in case you are stopped by the police. Then tell me how bad America's corruption is - and that it's just as bad as the corruption in the rest of the world (corruption is corruption, as you say). I, for one, have never had to bribe an American official in my life. Have you?

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    -Turkey

  46. Should be very interested by DoriH · · Score: 1

    Should be very interested, especially with what's going on now with their founder...