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How To Use a Linux Virtual Private Server

Nerval's Lobster writes "Game developer David Bolton writes: 'For my development of Web games, I've hit a point where I need a Virtual Private Server. (For more on this see My Search for Game Hosting Begins.) I initially chose a Windows VPS because I know Windows best. A VPS is just an Internet-connected computer. "Virtual" means it may not be an actual physical computer, but a virtualized host, one of many, each running as if it were a real computer. Recently, though, I've run into a dead end, as it turns out that Couchbase doesn't support PHP on Windows. So I switched to a Linux VPS running Ubuntu server LTS 12-04. Since my main desktop PC runs Windows 7, the options to access the VPS are initially quite limited, and there's no remote desktop with a Linux server. My VPS is specified as 2 GB of ram, 2 CPUs and 80 GB of disk storage. The main problem with a VPS is that you have to self-manage it. It's maybe 90% set up for you, but you need the remaining 10%. You may have to install some software, edit a config file or two and occasionally bounce (stop then restart) daemons (Linux services), after editing their config files.'"

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  1. Oh fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hire a manager for it or learn to use it. How in hell is this in the front page?

    1. Re:Oh fuck by xaxa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because it's from Dice: http://news.dice.com/2012/12/10/linux-virtual-private-server/

      (The company that bought Slashdot.)

  2. n00b by ilikenwf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you don't know how to do this, please hire someone. And use Debian stable over ubuntu for servers. It's much more stable and much less full of Shuttleworth.

    1. Re:n00b by ilikenwf · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I just can't support an over commercialized, inferior, bloated distro. Debian Stable is the epitome of long term support as a result of the slow release cycle. As a result, you get security updates indefinitely and can install newer software if you want it from backports or source, or install the packages DotDeb for lamp stacks.

      As a side note, I have to mention that I have never had an Ubuntu install of any type - desktop or server - that didn't fall into dependency hell upon doing a dist-upgrade. Archlinux for desktops, Debian for servers.

  3. And your problem is .... ? by gus+goose · · Score: 5, Informative

    .... you are new to Linux, and you need some help?

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ

    gus

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  4. Please stop by WaffleMonster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stop trolling us slashdot... this aint news and it aint a legitimate question... please just stop.

  5. Grow a pair and read some man pages by earlzdotnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What exaclty were you expecting? If you want your server to be all setup for you, you'll buy a managed server, and pay a hefty price-premium for them holding your hand the whole time. If you want to save money, then you'll read some man pages and tutorials and figure out how to set it up on your own. Also, if you think you "need" a GUI on your server, then you obviously aren't all that well experienced with server management. If you really can't do any of this on your own, hire a sysadmin. Any sysadmin worth their weight in salt know how to use a linux command line to setup something as easy as PHP and Apache. Hell, most VPS services these days provide template VPSs with these services already setup

  6. Re:Apt-get install clue by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why the fuck would use a window manager on a server. Just a good way to increase security exposure.

    The big problem here is the VPS user has no clue about his operating system, this will end in tears, most likely the hacker kind.

    Second is, linux server tools don't need a GUI. Even if you had one, you'd just use it to edit txt (conf) files.

    All you really need is putty and WinSCP.

  7. Wow, just wow. by VortexCortex · · Score: 5, Funny

    and there's no remote desktop with a Linux server.

    HAHAHAHAHA. Oh? You're serious? ALLOW ME TO LAUGH HARDER!

  8. Dumbest Article Ever by Revotron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let me transpose this article to emphasize just how incredibly stupid this submission is:

    Hey guys, I'm a game developer and my computer doesn't run things that I need to use to develop games. So I bought a new computer. You see, a computer is a machine that runs software and computes things for you. It has a mouse, a keyboard, and a monitor. Some computers are big, but others are small. For instance, the computer I bought has 4GB of memory. That is more memory than other computers that have 2GB. When you buy a computer, it's maybe 90% set up for you, but you need to install the remaining 10% of things that you'll use and change the settings so it runs the way you like it. Computers are so neat.

    This article isn't even asking a fucking question. It's just somebody telling the Slashdot crowd what a VPS is. What the fuck?

  9. Re:Am I at the right website? by Revotron · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sorry, the DNS lines must have gotten crossed. This is actually Yahoo! Answers.

  10. Thanks for the information by lsolano · · Score: 5, Funny

    A VPS is just an Internet-connected computer. "Virtual" means it may not be an actual physical computer, but a virtualized host, one of many, each running as if it were a real computer.

    I did not know that and I bet, almost no one here on /. either.

  11. wtf... seriously: wtf? by l3v1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been reading /. for some years now.

    When I read this post, first I thought it was some kind of joke.

    Then I started to feel the urge to hit someone, really hard.

    Seriously people, how the heck does a beginner's beginner's noob's writing like this land on /.?

    Teenage Linux beginner bloggers do better than this.

    You people need to reset your quality checking methods, and fast.

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  12. Re:Apt-get install clue by TheCarp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As for the security risk, you are mostly correct. There is little exposure to running an X app over ssh. A few theoretical issues maybe but, nothing serious.

    The thing is, its not what us experienced unix folks do, and with good reason. I have spent more time writing custom scripts to add and manage users than I have used gui tools to manage them. Its nice to be able to click and add a user, its nicer to be able to write a script so I can do it exactly the same way every time, or hand that duty off to someone else with sudo privs and not have to worry about giving him root access, or to implement some custom system where passwords are auto-generated and mailed out etc.....

    Frankly the problem isn't the gui tools per se. Its that a linux system is very complicated with a lot of moving parts. On the plus side, this means you can tear it down to the bear minimum and customize it to your hearts content, only limited by your imagination and skill, On the minus side, you can really get out into some major weeds to the point that even the best admins will be calling it a rebuild.

    If you are just getting by on gui tools, you are asking for trouble.... HOWEVER..... I don't want to entirely knock them. *I* started out with them. Since then however, I have totally abandoned them. When I use X11 over ssh, you can bet its because I am using something that just gives me no other way. (some software installs...ugh)

    My advice would be...if someone wants to seriously go down this path...do it...but do it knowing full well its going ot be a major learning experience. I would setup a second VPS or even a system at home, just to experiment with....

    If you really want to get competent:
    1. Find out what your tools are REALLY DOING. Find out what the command line equivalents are, see what the differences are.
    2. Don't fear vi. It is less true these days that you are likely to find yourself sitting in front of a dead system at 3 am and the only tool that works is vi. Especially on linux (more so than many more traditional systems) vi is not your only option, nor your only good one. All that said.... it *IS* the gold standard for sysadmin editors. Its what the cool kids use ;) Its also more powerful than you can possibly imagine. It is worth learning.
    3. Consider learning some shell script. Its very powerful, its also the exact same language you type at the shell. Learning shell syntax will save you time, even if you never save anything to a fixed script.
    4. Remember this is a job people get paid and paid well to do. You are dabbling in my career here. Don't expect to be an expert over night, and don't make too many commitments. I have been at it for 12 years professionally.... it takes time and experience to get good.

    That said.... it seems this is all about web game development? If so....hey.... development? Have a blast man! However, if you are expecing to actually run code for public consumption? I would be a bit worried, expect downtime while you figure it all out.

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  13. In Other News... by Zalbik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In other news:

    "Some Random Moron writes: 'For my reading of email, I've hit a point where I need a PC. (For more on this see My Search for Email Clients Begins.) I initially chose a Windows 7 PC because I know Windows best. A PC is just a "personal computer". "Personal" means it is an actual physical computer, running as if it were a real computer. "Computer" means it's an actual physical computer, running as if it were a real computer. Recently, though, I've run into a dead end, as it turns out that Windows 7 doesn't support Sparrow. So I switched to a Linux PC running Ubuntu desktop 12.04. Since my main smartphone runs iOS, the options to access my mail are initially quite limited, cause I'm a moron, and don't know how to use google. Though I pretend to be a web developer, I'm entirely outside my comfort zone if there isn't a big bold "easy button" for any trivial task I attempt, even when that task has been solved, posted about, blogged about, and had software specifically written to solve my exact issue. The main problem with a PC is that you have to self-manage it. It's maybe 90% set up for you, but you need the remaining 10%. You may have to install some software, edit a config file or two and occasionally bounce (stop then restart) daemons (Linux services), after editing their config files.'"

    Seriously....can't remote into a Linux server? WTF?

  14. Worst. Slashdot. Article. by Alex+Belits · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ever.

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