5 More Google Fiberhoods Coming To Kansas City

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5 More Google Fiberhoods Coming To Kansas City

Posted by samzenpus on Monday December 17, 2012 @10:12AM from the more-the-merrier dept.

skade88 writes "If you live in KC, Google is doing their part to make sure you get your daily fiber. They are launching their gigabit home internet service in five new areas in KC. From the article: '"In 2013, we're going to hit the ground running, finishing installations in Dub's Dread, and then quickly moving on to five more fiberhoods," the company wrote, using its invented term for zones where Google Fiber will be deployed. "Based on pre-registration results, the next fiberhoods on the list are Piper Schools, Delaware Ridge, Painted Hills, Open Door, and Arrowhead. And we have some more good news for folks in some of these areas—we've extended a few fiberhood boundaries slightly, so that more people can get Google Fiber. You can see the new boundaries below and on our website, where you can check to see if your home is now eligible."'"

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Nigga Tyrone approves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:17 · Score: -1

I be using dis fiber to stream muh 1080p movies of muh boyz and me fucking ur wives, moms, sisters and daughters. Visit niggatyronefuckdawhitewimmunz.com and jerk ur little peckerwoods.
-Tyrone
1. Re:Nigga Tyrone approves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:20 · Score: -1
  
  20 innocent lives snuffed out in Connecticut, and yet you continue to breathe our air. This is proof that there is no God.
2. Re:Nigga Tyrone approves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:21 · Score: -1
  
  If you live in KC, Google is doing their part to make sure you get your daily fiber.
  Good. After I get my daily fiber I can take a big ol healthy steaming SHIT all over your chest!
  
  LOVE the nigger posts. Really makes the nancyboys get their panties in a bunch. I bet their mouse is on fire from how fast they try to click the down mod. Makes me feel so gratified that anything I can say is so important to them.
3. Re:Nigga Tyrone approves by causality · 2012-12-17 11:01 · Score: -1, Flamebait
  
  20 innocent lives snuffed out in Connecticut, and yet you continue to breathe our air. This is proof that there is no God.
  It is proof that small-minded people want to blame (their concept of) God for what man has done.
  
  I think I know what you want. You want a micromanaging God that doesn't ever let us make any of our own choices. That way nothing bad ever happens. That is a God you could believe in, with none of that messy faith stuff, right? Just like your other emotionally childish counterparts want a God-like Government that can take away all the guns because they are cowards, cowards love easy wrong answers, so they blame inanimate objects for what people do. That may be drugs, guns, video games, music, movies, you name it: these people are themselves so dehumanized and shallow that the human element is the very first thing they want to deny.
  
  It ain't gonna work. Certain drugs are completely illegal in all circumstances. Guess what? They can't even keep them out of PRISONS. Perhaps a lot of people didn't know that? Maybe they hadn't researched the feasibility of this idea? No one who has looked into it thinks it's realistic. Lots of people who can't distinguish emotion from reason, who really don't know anything about the topic, think it's just great. What a coincidence. Maybe you could ponder that for a little while.
  
  Now if you can grasp a general principle when you see one and realize that it applies to more than one thing, perhaps it will dawn on you that banning guns won't work either. It makes sense too. This shooting was done by a psychopath who obviously wasn't worried about dying and obviously wasn't worried about mass murder charges. Gee, I wonder if a weapons violation charge is going to deter him? Yeah, that DOES sound silly, now doesn't it? Good, the ability to face a harsh reality is the mark of adulthood.
  
  I am glad you are not going to get what you want. The adults don't want to be stuck in your little playpen. Yes, 20 people were murdered. In fact the death toll was a bit higher than that. Is hating a troll going to bring them back? Is there, in fact, anything at all that you and I or anyone else could do to reverse what has been done? No, there isn't. But there are a lot of rash mistakes with long-lasting consequences that we could make. There are also lots of petty little ways that we could find reasons to hate each other. Do you think that either of those would honor the dead?
  
  Speaking of small-minded people, I suppose it's time for them to call me names and express their impotent outrage because I said something they don't agree with. Knowing no better way, that is how they handle such things. It gives them a whole moment of feeling self-important before they come right back down to the life they have to live.
  
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4. Re:Nigga Tyrone approves by M0j0_j0j0 · 2012-12-17 11:13 · Score: 0
  
  F*ck dude! you had an epiphany!!
5. Re:Nigga Tyrone approves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 11:43 · Score: -1
  
  Weird... I didn't read a single thing in his post about banning all guns?
  
  But you're absolutely right, making it more difficult for troubled teenagers to access fully automatic rifles would obviously make our adults lives way too difficult, I for one can't even wake up and have a shower without firing an AR 10-20 times. They can't take away our guns, it's our GOD GIVEN RIGHT!
  
  I'm not deeply religious, but I'm sure you can point out the passage for me where he mentions M16s for me.
6. Re:Nigga Tyrone approves by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-18 04:21 · Score: -1
  
  He didn't have an M16 dumbass, he had an AR15. They are different.
7. Re:Nigga Tyrone approves by M0j0_j0j0 · 2012-12-18 12:48 · Score: 1
  
  I see, but you do have to get over the point, carrying guns is not as acceptable option. you may evoke the amendments , or the traditions, or even a as to do so, but sometimes, it's just the time to change, stone to death womens is also a tradition in some realities, and they also have to change. it's simply not acceptable. there are no gods but we upon ourselves, and it is our sole responsibility to look upon us. As for me, on a problem there are always two guilty sides, the one that committed and the one that let it happen. you are the US of A, you can do better than this, you are the bastion of the civilized world, please behave as so, and we the fair mans will follow. Causality can be avoided, we are the owners of our future.
8. Re:Nigga Tyrone approves by Sarius64 · 2012-12-18 18:25 · Score: 1
  
  Considering the statistics, one could make a better case for doing away with baseball bats than guns.
  Ferran: We Must Stop Baseball Bat Violence!
  Against the gun control that won’t work
  National Review: Gun Control Doesn't Work
FIRST POST FOR NEWTOWN by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:19 · Score: -1

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Still happy in Chattanooga. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:20 · Score: 0

Had fiber for two years already myself.
Now if only I could get rid of the people.
I hope they expand South by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:22 · Score: 0

I live in Oklahoma, and the residential internet here is atrocious.
1. Re:I hope they expand South by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:25 · Score: 1
  
  My uncle lives around Oklahoma City. He gets 1 Mbps for what we pay for 25 Mbps near St. Louis.
2. Re:I hope they expand South by CanHasDIY · 2012-12-17 10:51 · Score: 2
  
  I live in Oklahoma,
  Well, there's your problem.
  
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3. Re:I hope they expand South by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:54 · Score: 0
  
  I live in Oklahoma, and the residential internet here is atrocious.
  to be fair, everything in Oklahoma is atrocious
GPON or Active Ethernet? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:23 · Score: 5, Interesting

For those of us in the telecommunications industry, what type of FTTH deployment are they doing? For that matter, who's gear are they using? Calix, Ericsson, Occam, Adtran, or something homegrown?
1. Re:GPON or Active Ethernet? by klui · 2012-12-17 10:49 · Score: 2
  
  For comparison, Sonic.net, which Google partnered with to bring fiber to some Stanford residences in CA, is using Adtran GPONs for their fiber rollout in Sebastapol. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26685216-Is-GPON-Good-Enough-For-The-Future-
2. Re:GPON or Active Ethernet? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:50 · Score: 0
  
  I've been curious about their infrastructure and how they intend to spread it efficiently. The reason Cable has an advantage is due to their essentially mile on the last mile of cable - what is Google doing about dragging their fiber? What do they have in mind for urban areas? It's all very interesting.
3. Re:GPON or Active Ethernet? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 12:22 · Score: 0
  
  The FTTH, I don't know. But the edge and backbone routers are (mostly) Alcatel-Lucent.
4. Re:GPON or Active Ethernet? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-18 05:57 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, I'm interested in this too. I've seen lots of speculation in both directions, and someone alluded to a Cisco paper suggesting Active Ethernet (but then again Cisco only supplies Active Ethernet solutions, so it is in their interest to make suggestions like that), but I've never seen anyone with any authority saying "Yes, they are GPON" or "Yes, they are Active Ethernet", or even "Yes, they are doing this weird hybrid".
  I've also heard that they are building all their own equipment. Any truth to this? Has anyone in Kansas taken pictures of the Google supplied box?
  This has to be one of telecom's best kept secrets.
5. Re:GPON or Active Ethernet? by tnewt · 2012-12-18 06:54 · Score: 2
  
  Okay, I searched around and found out a little more. Google's TV box is the GFHD100, built by Humax: http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Google_Fiber_TV_Box_(GFHD100) It, and its software is apparently derived from Sage TV, which they acquired a while ago: http://www.geektonic.com/2012/07/google-fiber-tvis-its-htpc-dna-sagetv.html This doesn't answer the 'Active vs GPON' question. Anyone in Kansas with Google Fiber that can answer any questions? Does this box connect directly to the fiber going outside of the house? If so, then a teardown would reveal the chip interfacing to the fiber, which might answer the question.
Dub's Dread? by Sez+Zero · 2012-12-17 10:24 · Score: 1

Man, I really want to move to Kansas so I can live in Dub's Dread. Dub's Dread: I am the law!
1. Re:Dub's Dread? by Rob+the+Bold · 2012-12-17 10:30 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Man, I really want to move to Kansas so I can live in Dub's Dread. Dub's Dread: I am the law!
  It'd only be cool till you realized that it's a suburb named after a golf course that's named after . . . a different golf course.
  
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2. Re:Dub's Dread? by Sez+Zero · 2012-12-17 11:06 · Score: 1
  
  Man, I really want to move to Kansas so I can live in Dub's Dread. Dub's Dread: I am the law!
  It'd only be cool till you realized that it's a suburb named after a golf course that's named after . . . a different golf course.
  That's even better! Can I send them all my hipster douchebags around here? We're all full up.
3. Re:Dub's Dread? by game+kid · 2012-12-17 11:20 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Golf courses all the way down...
  
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4. Re:Dub's Dread? by HornWumpus · 2012-12-17 13:25 · Score: 2
  
  Hipster douchebags play Frisbee golf.
  
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5. Re:Dub's Dread? by Rob+the+Bold · 2012-12-17 13:39 · Score: 1
  
  That's even better! Can I send them all my hipster douchebags around here? We're all full up.
  Oh Hell yes! The West "Dot" is totally looking for some. Sushi and NASCAR, together at last!
  
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  I am not a crackpot.
Lucky bastards... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:33 · Score: 1

Meanwhile Telenor (my ISP) has limited my bandwidth to 500kbps for 30+5 days because I downloaded more than 100GB in a 30day sliding window.
The world is unfair
1. Re:Lucky bastards... by vlm · 2012-12-17 10:42 · Score: 1
  
  What did you download for 100 gigs? You're AC so don't worry about telling the world if its all furry pr0n I'm just idly curious. The largest torrent I ever downloaded was about 120 gigs of audiobooks and it took a couple months, at least a couple years ago. A somewhat overcompressed star trek series averages 50 or so gigs per series. Then again high def isn't going to make the plot of "spocks brain" or the space hippies any better. It would take me months to watch 100 gigs of stuff, even if I downloaded that much in a month (lets just say I finally watched the high def directors cut 4 hour LOTR: TT last week... I read the books back when PDP-11s roamed the earth so I already knew how it turned out, its not like I've been in suspense)
  
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2. Re:Lucky bastards... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:50 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  100 gigs is nothing...with only legitimate usage i can go over that with netflix, youtube, gaming and video streaming(up/down)
  its sad, really, that you have to suffer such low limits. I've got comcast with their now-unenforced 250g cap. since they said they wouldnt enforce it, i stopped metering myself and found my 'normal' usage is actually around 550gb on a normal month, or 750 if i go down the dark and shady roads.
3. Re:Lucky bastards... by Kjella · 2012-12-17 11:41 · Score: 1
  
  No, just Telenor. I have Altibox and downloaded a ~500GB torrent in three days + whatever else I downloaded that month, no complaints. For the Americans I'll explain, remember those crappy monopoly/duopoly choices you have? Well, Telenor is like that except we have more choices, but some choose to use them anyway...
  
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4. Re:Lucky bastards... by The+Archon+V2.0 · 2012-12-17 13:31 · Score: 1
  
  The Touhou Lossless Music Collection is over one terabyte. Terabyte.
  http://www.tlmc.eu/
5. Re:Lucky bastards... by PNutts · 2012-12-17 15:34 · Score: 1
  
  I work from home (connected to the work network 24/7), the kids stream Netflix all the time, the wifey is at home all day on wifi, I'm on wifi all day for personal stuff, Carbonite backups, iOS devices backing up and downloading apps, etc., etc. It's unusual for me to go over 200GB and it's usually around 180.
6. Re:Lucky bastards... by Sarius64 · 2012-12-18 18:29 · Score: 1
  
  I had to get Cox Business Internet to avoid losing service all together. Business Internet is unlimited in data and we have six active Internet users living here. 100GB is a few days at most.
Will Google 'Wal-Mart' local providers? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:34 · Score: -1

Will Google move in with better service and lower prices, chasing out competition and then proceed to provide crappier and crappier service for that price? Or become the behemoth no one can compete with and then censor what can be reached via their service?
Tinfoil hat stuff, yes, but . . .
1. Re:Will Google 'Wal-Mart' local providers? by i_ate_god · 2012-12-17 10:54 · Score: 1
  
  They will probably offer a great service, so long as your usage of that service can be monitored.
  But, on the bright side, Google doesn't seem too interested in the minority of users who are smart enough to get around it...
  
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Other Gigabit Communities by mysqlrocks · 2012-12-17 10:37 · Score: 2

While Google Fiber is getting most of the attention, Kansas City isn't the only place with gigabit Internet speeds. Chattanooga, Tennessee and Burlington, Vermont (my city) both have gigabit Internet via fiber-to-the-home as well as a few other places around the country. I've started an initiative in Burlington called BTV Gig (http://btvgig.org/) to try and bring attention to this and decide how our community is going to leverage gigabit.

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1. Re:Other Gigabit Communities by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:41 · Score: 0
  
  Why BTV? Wouldn't BVT (for Burlington Vermont) make more sense?
2. Re:Other Gigabit Communities by mysqlrocks · 2012-12-17 10:45 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  BTV is our airport code and a common shorthand for Burlington, Vermont. It's used as the hashtag on Twitter for our city, for example.
  
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3. Re:Other Gigabit Communities by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:54 · Score: 1
  
  Good thing they made an official hashtag. Now the 5 residents who actually have Twitter accounts will be able to tag and track all the happenings of the town.
4. Re:Other Gigabit Communities by Nyder · 2012-12-17 13:09 · Score: 0
  
  BTV is our airport code and a common shorthand for Burlington, Vermont. It's used as the hashtag on Twitter for our city, for example.
  No one 'cept people from Burlington care, and they probably already know this.
  
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5. Re:Other Gigabit Communities by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 15:06 · Score: 0
  
  Since this is a Google fiber thread how could that be of any interest or on topic?
6. Re:Other Gigabit Communities by ediron2 · 2012-12-17 19:55 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, between GE and IBM, half a dozen colleges, countless telecommuters that figured out how to get the hell out of metro Boston/NYC/etc, and the metro BTV area alone having well over a hundred thousand people, I'd say that your guessing there are ** 5 ** twitter users seems about the douchiest uninformed remark of my day.
  Full disclosure: writing this from a conservative flyover state that gets this sort of mocking on a regular basis, not Vermont. Coastal provincialism is a plague -- y'all really don't seem to be aware how snark like that makes you sound like dimwitted, uninformed cretins.
7. Re:Other Gigabit Communities by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 20:32 · Score: -1
  
  BTV is our airport code
  
  Actually, any aircraft flying to your airport will be using KBTV as the airport code. That's the ICAO identifier and is used for all air navigation purposes.
  BTV is an IATA code and is only used by the travel industry. Many airports lack an IATA code but all require an ICAO identifier.
Massive Privacy Concern by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 10:46 · Score: 2, Insightful

Google is great and all, but I wouldn't be so quick to subscribe to their fiber service.
If you run all of your internet traffic through Google then they have the ability to mine every last ounce of data from your activity. While other ISPs might have access to the same type of data already, Google is the only one that has a business model based on targeted advertising. Google wants to know everything about you in order to sell advertisements. Other ISPs do not. If you care about privacy at all, Google seems like a bad ISP to use.
1. Re:Massive Privacy Concern by CanHasDIY · 2012-12-17 10:53 · Score: 1
  
  So tunnel through a VPN.
  
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2. Re:Massive Privacy Concern by Kiraxa · 2012-12-17 11:36 · Score: 1
  
  If you care about privacy at all you don't use the internet, because everything is monitored and logged. Seriously stop being a paranoid.
  
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3. Re:Massive Privacy Concern by kllrnohj · 2012-12-17 11:41 · Score: 2
  
  Or you could, *gasp*, read their privacy policy (which is really simple and easy to read) instead of stocking up on unnecessary tinfoil.
  Also, you vastly overestimate how much data Google uses for ads (and you are ignoring that Google will happily let you turn *off* targeted advertising if you so choose: https://www.google.com/settings/privacy?hl=en -> ads -> opt out)
4. Re:Massive Privacy Concern by jo_ham · 2012-12-17 14:23 · Score: 1
  
  If you buy tinfoil... they'll know you buy tinfoil!
  Then you'll get adverts for turkey and cookbooks for roasting large flightless avians!
  It's too risky, man!
  Can I bum some change?
5. Re:Massive Privacy Concern by LordKronos · 2012-12-18 01:38 · Score: 1
  
  Ohhhhhhh, scarrrrrrrrrry. Targeted Ads.
6. Re:Massive Privacy Concern by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-18 03:22 · Score: 0
  
  That's the way all advertising is going. However, I'm sure, at least until we get used to it, there will be an Uncanny Valley effect if the ads are too targeted.
Insulting coverage by BenJeremy · 2012-12-17 11:04 · Score: 1

Wake me when they decide to give the rest of the nation fiber. I'm stuck locked into my local provider, which instituted caps last year without proper notice (Charter) on their top tier residential service.
When Charter came to our town, buying the local cable outfit, they delayed the internet rollout for 4 years, even though the town was already wired and ready to go.
I'd love to have Google Fiber. Cheaper, no caps.... it would certainly force Charter to change their tune and suddenly be more affordable.
At the rate Google is working, I guess the rest of the nation will see Google Fiber around 2032.
1. Re:Insulting coverage by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 14:50 · Score: 0
  
  No shit, big fucking surprise... They're deploying more in Kansas City. I assume Larry Page has family there?
2. Re:Insulting coverage by Delarth799 · 2012-12-17 16:18 · Score: 1
  
  The whole reason Google is rolling out fiber like this is to try and shake up the trees of the large ISPs and get them moving on fiber. Over the next couple of years they will probably drop it into a few other major cities giving Comcast, TWC, ATT, and the likes a real run for their money forcing them to do something to stop the loss of customers.
3. Re:Insulting coverage by dywolf · 2012-12-18 04:08 · Score: 1
  
  They had to find a munipality that would allow it and wouldnt have the local telco sue them to stop them like happened in a Carolina town when the LOCAL RESIDENTS tried to build/create their own fiber ISP cause the cable company's ISP sucked so bad.
  
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No love by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 11:08 · Score: 0

Hey Google, how about running fiber to a city with a population that appreciates the bandwidth....someplace where they believe in science.
1. Re:No love by Sarius64 · 2012-12-18 18:31 · Score: 1
  
  Hey Google, how about running fiber to a city with a population that appreciates the bandwidth....someplace where they believe in science.
  Wish I had points. San Diego would be a good start! :)
Fiberhoods? by wiedzmin · 2012-12-17 11:19 · Score: 2

Are those them things they used to cover engines in Fast and the Furious?

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fiber in silicon valley? by ctime · 2012-12-17 11:59 · Score: 3, Insightful

Is it any indication of how bad regulation and costs are that this sort of thing isn't a reality yet in SV, despite it being most densely populated area of nerds in the country?

Does anyone know of any other "official" reason why even Verizon FIOS isn't in santa clara valley? It just amazes me how shitty communication bandwidth is (wireless and otherwise) in the valley compared to podunk idaho or kansas city. What in the world is going on here?
1. Re:fiber in silicon valley? by russotto · 2012-12-17 14:27 · Score: 1
  
  Does anyone know of any other "official" reason why even Verizon FIOS isn't in santa clara valley?
  Last I heard, Verizon isn't building any more FIOS because they get higher ROI on mobile.
2. Re:fiber in silicon valley? by gawbl · 2012-12-17 18:44 · Score: 1
  
  I believe that the most of the Santa Clara Valley ("Silicon Valley") has legacy landline service from AT&T (formerly SBC, formerly PacBell). I think Los Gatos was served by GTE, and GTE is now part of Verizon, but I've never heard anything about FIOS in Los Gatos, or anywhere else in the Valley. FWIW, most of the AT&T DSL in the Valley is supplied by beige boxes on the sidewalks; every box is filled with DSL equipment, has a conspicuous power meter, and has an upstream fiber link. But AT&T has no plans to extend that fiber to any homes; you get DSL, served over a twisted pair.
  
  gawbl
3. Re:fiber in silicon valley? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-18 01:59 · Score: 0
  
  Does anyone know of any other "official" reason why even Verizon FIOS isn't in santa clara valley?
  Lack of fire insurance. FIOS = Fire Is Our Specialty
I have cox. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 12:03 · Score: 0

And my bill for
TV with HBO Showtime 3 down .5 up was 147 now it is 169 because I don't have a contract.
It sucks being married because she wont let me kill the TV part and she rent the damn DVDs too.
Freaking two hundred bucks for shit. Once my rent was two hundred god damn dollars my income has not gone up even close to the fucking fees these assholes charge and provide shit. I want so bad for someone thing to come along and kill off their whole business model.
What is the Google Strategy? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 12:06 · Score: 1, Interesting

I don't understand why Google is strategically selecting the areas of Kansas City with the lowest incomes and populated with the least amount of technical people. Johnson County, Kansas was ranked #9 best county to live in by Money magazine in 2012 and it looks like Google is intentionally avoiding them. I seriously don't get it.
1. Re:What is the Google Strategy? by Cyrano+de+Maniac · 2012-12-17 12:32 · Score: 1
  
  It makes some sense to me. What I wager they are hoping to see is substantially improved economic activity in those areas, as well as rising property values, directly attributable to the availability of cheap bandwidth.
  If that happens then Google will be able to begin making a case to the public, the FCC, and politicians that the state of U.S. broadband is terrible, and that the country needs to get its act together to improve the situation. If they can point toward the economic uplift of a downtrodden area they are then pushing the right buttons to get all sorts of politicians to agree that increasing bandwidth is a good and necessary thing. The FCC may begin mandating/encouraging higher speeds, and the politicians may even pry open the taxpayer's wallet to help make it happen.
  Increasing the amount of data coursing through the Internet is a plus for Google, as the contents/attributes of that data can then be used for advertising, research, product development, and the like. They can only stand to gain from there being more data circulating.
  
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2. Re:What is the Google Strategy? by Immerman · 2012-12-17 13:14 · Score: 1
  
  Perhaps as a "worst case" start? If they can do it it profitably there then they can do it anywhere, possibly inflated costs to lay fiber in high-income areas notwithstanding. And if they're sure it can be done in low-income areas then doing the initial roll out there will give them an extremely strong bargaining position against obstructionist politicians and entrenched local monopolies. I mean if they launch a media blitz saying "Look, we have proven we're able to do this profitably even in areas with substantially more economic difficulty than yours, and we could do it here if X,Y,and Z weren't standing in our way" then people may well start paying an unhealthy amount of attention to what was previously a relatively safe source of graft. I imagine many politicians would become suddenly more cooperative just knowing such a campaign could be launched at a moments notice.
  
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3. Re:What is the Google Strategy? by HornWumpus · 2012-12-17 13:28 · Score: 1
  
  KCK politicians gave the best head, duh.
  
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4. Re:What is the Google Strategy? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 13:44 · Score: 0
  
  And what incentives did "Johnson County" offer Google? None. Because that is not a city. KCK and KCMO are actual cities who courted Google and offered them fat incentive packages. I don't know what city you live in, OP, Olathe or Leawood but face it your city did NOTHING to get Google. Comparing a county to a city, or 2 cities in this case is comparing apples to oranges.
5. Re:What is the Google Strategy? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 14:00 · Score: 0
  
  If you look at a map of KCMO and divide it by racial and economic standards then lay where Google is putting their fiber you will quickly see that the poorest "fiberhoods" did not make the cut. Google even tried to lessen the burden for entry in many of the fiberhoods but in the end they lacked enough signups to make the cut. In one of the 2 cities, Kansas City, MO the racial dividing line is very easily drawn, a street called Troost Ave. separates the wealthier and whiter neighborhoods from the poorer blacker ones. Without going too far back into Kansas Cities history I can tell you that segregation along socioeconomic and racial lines has been planned and present for many generations. The argument that Google is only deploying to lower end neighborhoods really does not pass the smell test. Yes a lot of residents from across the state line in a far wealthier county are butthurt but the areas getting Google Fiber are generally the wealthiest and whitest in Kansas City (Missouri).
6. Re:What is the Google Strategy? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 16:44 · Score: 0
  
  This is no surprise. Google was asking for a minimum $300 construction fee for the low-speed free package, or a minimum $70/month for the gigabit package. Those who are less well-to-do or otherwise lacking in socioeconomic standings would have trouble justifying a $300 expense that does not satisfy one of three criteria:
  
  1. Spins and/or goes on a car
  2. Shines and can be worn around the neck, on the hand, or over the teeth
  3. Has at least a 46" diagonal screen and can display the latest sporting event in crisp 1080p
  
  Far be it from me to question other people's priorities, but in this case it's not hard to believe that "super-high-speed internet" isn't really one of them.
7. Re:What is the Google Strategy? by Jartan · 2012-12-17 16:55 · Score: 1
  
  The whole thing is a big test. Likely they are picking the area's based on their ability to handle the expected customers. They'll work their way from the bottom up in that situation.
8. Re:What is the Google Strategy? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-18 02:43 · Score: 0
  
  Bingo. Now, bring that fiber to Blue Springs, please.
9. Re:What is the Google Strategy? by ReverendLoki · 2012-12-18 03:12 · Score: 1
  
  Looking at this map, there are a lot of poorer neighborhoods that made it. Not all, but a lot. I understand they are deploying first to those with the highest demand/met their threshhold first, which makes sense, and a lot of richer neighborhoods where among the first to qualify.
  I recall more than a few charitable and NPOs stepped up to help some of those areas meet their threshhold, and Google itself worked really hard to get the word out, and explain the benefit door to door in some of those areas. To be honest, they've gone so far, I'm not sure how you can hold them at fault as a for-profit company in this.
  
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The rest of the world is already there... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 15:06 · Score: 0

This is common in the EU. Even in Hungary you can get 50 megabit connections for ~$30 a month.
Google is more evil than Microsoft ever was by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 17:59 · Score: 0

Google is more evil than Microsoft ever was.
Australia is... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-17 19:06 · Score: 0

basically the size of one of your gated neighborhoods cant you just extend it over here we will put a gate at the north south east and west of our country just to to get decent broadband, we made the mistake of trusting our government with that.
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Boy will NASA have egg on its face by Lucas123 · 2012-12-18 02:21 · Score: 1

If they're wrong.
Don't wait for Google by cortex · 2012-12-18 03:23 · Score: 1

Lobby your local city and county officials to support the installation of fiber infrastructure. Along the Wasatch Front we have the excellent UTOPIA project, which brings fiber to the home. Local cities used bonds to support setting up the infrastructure, and home owners pay for the connection from the street to their house. The fiber infrastructure is treated like a utility and any ISP can compete for your business. I have a symmetric 100 MB connection for about about 1/3 less than Comcast was charging me for a 15 MB connection, and I get MUCH better service.
KC, Kansas: The armpit of the KC Metro area. by GrantRobertson · 2012-12-18 07:29 · Score: 1

Just reminding folks that the "KC" which is getting the fiber is one of four separate "Kansas City"s in the KC metro area. It is the one that is in Kansas instead of Missouri, and is almost all poor neighborhoods. That is why it was chosen. It is a lot of poor people but really close to wealthier areas with good infrastructure.
I know, Missouri isn't much better politically, but I just get tired of everyone thinking that all of "Kansas City" is in Kansas just because it has "Kansas" in the name. It was called "Kansas City" because it is the city next to Kansas. Kansas City, KS came later.
Just sayin'.