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Linus Chews Up Kernel Maintainer For Introducing Userspace Bug

An anonymous reader points out just how thick a skin it takes to be a kernel developer sometimes, linking to a chain of emails on the Linux Kernel Mailing List in which Linus lets loose on a kernel developer for introducing a change that breaks userspace apps (in this case, PulseAudio). "Shut up, Mauro. And I don't _ever_ want to hear that kind of obvious garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again. Seriously. I'd wait for Rafael's patch to go through you, but I have another error report in my mailbox of all KDE media applications being broken by v3.8-rc1, and I bet it's the same kernel bug. And you've shown yourself to not be competent in this issue, so I'll apply it directly and immediately myself. WE DO NOT BREAK USERSPACE! Seriously. How hard is this rule to understand? We particularly don't break user space with TOTAL CRAP. I'm angry, because your whole email was so _horribly_ wrong, and the patch that broke things was so obviously crap. ... The fact that you then try to make *excuses* for breaking user space, and blaming some external program that *used* to work, is just shameful. It's not how we work," writes Linus, and that's just the part we can print. Maybe it's a good thing, but there's certainly no handholding when it comes to changes to the heart of Linux.

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  1. Still.... by jimpop · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...a better love story than Twilight.

    1. Re:Still.... by Sulphur · · Score: 1, Funny

      Tape ARchive : Used for beating backups.

    2. Re:Still.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      As could you. :)

    3. Re:Still.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Imagine what it's like to be Linus' wife!

      "SHUT UP! You burnt the bagels! Take responsibility! You know our policy, no wasted food! How dare you try to blame the toaster oven for being inconsistent? We never blame inanimate appliances Just shut up! You should have been watching the toaster!"

    4. Re:Still.... by Gramie2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Given that Tove, his wife, is a six-time Finnish karate champion, I think that he might consider taking a softer tone.

  2. This is somewhat related... by Lisias · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is somewhat related with this Linus' post on G+?

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  3. Re:Can we... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Unity bites? Try Windows 8. Unity is bliss!

  4. Re:Arsehole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ahh, you think linux developers aren't paid, that's precious.

  5. Re:Arsehole by dcollins · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Only in the socially retarded world of /. is this sort of behaviour lauded because the best behaviour that I described above seems too goddamned difficult to manage."

    Tut, tut, good sir. Next time please do try to deliver your observations in more civilized and diplomatic language.

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  6. Re:Arsehole by Coeurderoy · · Score: 5, Funny

    come on it's pulse audio related, of course people get nervous, angry and easily irritated ...

  7. Re:The answer to Linus' comment ... by Lord+Kano · · Score: 3, Funny

    at the end of that diatribe: "Fix your f*cking "compliance tool", because it is obviously broken. And fix your approach to kernel programming"

    is:

    "How about you go and fix your f*cking social skills. When you can carry on a conversation without resorting to childish profanity, I'll come back and donate my free time to your project. Until then, go f*ck yourself."

    Linus is fast becoming another RMS but without the benefit of a cohesive set of values.

    I was just thinking that Linus is showing himself to be the bastard child of ESR and Theo.

    LK

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  8. Re:Arsehole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    When you climb a mountain to learn at the feet of a master, do you expect him to pay you as well as teach you, fool?

  9. Re:Arsehole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ROFL. Yep, except for the physical and mental demands, forced sleep deprivation, brutal training, people trying to blow you up and kill you, yep, programming and being a top special forces agent are pretty fuckin' similar. Crap, I have to go. Gotta fast rope into a hot LZ to get this next code change checked in. LOL. Your post has to be the funniest thing I've read all year.

  10. Re:Not the bug... by Punto · · Score: 2, Funny

    To be fair, pulseaudio is garbage, I'd never feel guilty about breaking it.

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  11. Stop paying him by Frankie70 · · Score: 1, Funny

    I think Linus should stop paying Mauro.