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Intel's Rumored TV Plans Would Compete With Apple, Google
Nerval's Lobster writes "Google tried to extend its influence to televisions, an effort that largely crashed and burned. Apple executives call Apple TV a 'hobby,' although it's been long-rumored that their company has a television set in the works. And Microsoft's made a muscular attempt to conquer the living room with the Xbox, which now does a lot more than just video games. If current rumors prove correct, you can soon add Intel to that list of IT giants with an eye on televisions. According to TechCrunch and SlashGear, the chip manufacturer is prepping to unveil a first-generation television system of some sort at next month's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. TechCrunch suggests that Intel will debut the system on a city-by-city basis, similar to what Google's doing with Google Fiber, in order to maintain 'more flexibility in negotiating licensing with reluctant content providers.' (The publication's information comes from the ever-popular unnamed sources.) In essence, Intel is proposing a set-top box paired with a subscription service, which would provide a mixture of traditional programming alongside streaming content."
Hopefully Intel learned a few lessons with their Ultrabook fiasco. Those things were DOA.
THis isn't the 1950's where the entire entertainment system, TV, HiFi and Phonograph are all integrated into the same box. Some one make a freekin TV monitor without all the tuners and computers in it! I know you can get monitors but could someone make one that cost less than a TV with all that crap in it. Then make the gadgets to attach to the "Monitor". Maybe we could even have 2K and 4K monitors at 50" for less thank $5K?
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Has any of these fancy tvs ever even done well? Consoles have taken over as the set top box. Better interface, already plugged in to the tv and the internet and everyone already has one. Too little too late.
for the rest of us we will buy apple TV and google TV is starting to look interesting
Roku will be dead soon
apple TV is a scam to make you stay in the apple ecosystem with airplay. otherwise using bin reject CPU's in a low margin device was genius
google TV seems to be bringing you content to kill your cable sub. but its playing on the niches like international programming. i know people who pay close to $200 a month for cable/internet/tv only for a few international channels
intel will probably have a cool booth and The Verge/Engadget/BGR and all the other blogger rags will hype the specs but it will probably die quick
Wasn't Intel working on making better chips for TVs?
I can see Intel doing exactly that, making better chips for TVs, I can't see Intel becoming a content delivery company. It is just so far removed from what they do it doesn't make sense.
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It seems of all the folks who want to do TVIP, only Google seems to be taking any action on the sorry ass state of US broadband. The telecomms sure arent. They are in the game of eating taxpayer subsides while lobbying for metered data and data caps. Cable TV has woefully failed at a la carte, instead is a force-fed smorgasbord of rotten tripe, most of which any individual doesn't want.
I just don't know what will be the tipping point for something to change, will it be when watching tv will become too expensive to do for typical family?
do people even watch tv? i haven't had a tv in years. i think intel would be better off looking forward to something innovative instead of just making a cable box with streaming pornos.
What do they think people want to do with their TVs that they can't already? Smart TVs, games consoles and even many set-top boxes have network media players and apps covering all major streaming services (iPlayer, Netflix, Hulu, YouTube etc.).
There are other apps on those platforms but no-one uses them. View web pages, Facebook and weather reports via a fiddly remote? No thanks, I'll just whip out my smart phone or tablet. Samsung TVs can run Angry Birds, but do you really want your kids hogging the TV with it?
Besides which we have reached platform overload with Windows RT/WP8. Unless something earth shattering happens Android is going to win with MS/Apple staying in the game by throwing masses of cash at it and producing proprietary hardware, at least until they turn into the next Sony (remember Betamax/Minidisc/MemoryStick/UMD?)
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Don't care for moderation: just let TV die, the golden age of TV was the 60's and 70's, all the rest sucks. TV must die!
a *hardware* company -- i can't see them doing a consumer SERVICE. they're better off sticking with hardware, but they've been faltering in that regard as well in non-PC consumer devices: video game consoles, set top boxes, cable / satellite boxes, tivo.... none of them use intel anything anymore (or never did to begin with).
Current content owners like the status quo and will let this new distribution channels they have no control over die rather than support it. Only way I see that changing is by companies like Intel, Google, Apple, Microsoft (they are getting there) to produce their own content that will satisfy the consumers. Just like how RCA produced their own content to sell their radios. Only then will internet TV providers have leverage at the bargaining table with existing content owners.
All three companies are scrambling to find their way in the IT world of today. The momentum has gone from PC's to tablets and smart phones. Guess what - those devices don't need intel chips or Windows. Intel will continue to sell plenty of chips for high end servers and Microsoft will continue to have it's monopoly on office related software so they'll be ok. Dell, in my view, is in the worst spot of all. They are stuck in a commodity PC business and their recent move into the services business via their acquisition of Perot Systems has been by and large a flop.
Getting into televisions in 2013 seems a lot like getting into the radio business post 2005.
silicon dust is going to announce at this coming CES: a new 'project connect'. i wonder if intel and silicon dusk are jointly announcing something together...
The only future I see for TV is when they gain wireless DLNA or some such (Like Apple TV but standardized). Then there's this big screen in the room that anyone can stream stuff too from their phone/whatever. Portable devices then need to be able to encode video for streaming to the big screen so you can use it as a large monitor (with codec dependent latency of course). That's it. All TVs and computer monitors should get this capability in the future. Wired connections should remain available for higher quality and low latency, but TV as display server is the only thing that makes sense IMHO. They'll need to keep tuners for quite a while too.
A perfect system, one which we realize that radio and the tv were never dead. They were in the infancy of their computations. Now they come marching out of the waves and clawing from the earth with silver platters filled with goodies for every palette. Maybe you realize, when you see the moment escaping; when you mistook empty pleasure for perfection. Perhaps buying a new-incredible-machine or a tiny tap to the tree of knowledge could but satiate the gaping void that is... The Twilight Zone
The reality is that the cable companies consider themselves to be the gatekeepers of broadcast television content. And since they control the primary broadband pipe used by most people in this country, its not likely they will allow that to change. If Apple/Intel/Microsoft/Google manage to break the stranglehold that cable holds over the broadband last mile, that would be great for the rest of us wishing to offer services over it.
Have gnu, will travel.
Right now you have to buy a huge of channels (and shows) to get the 20 hours you might want to watch each month. Or you have to do delayed broadcasts (not good for sports & news) or pirate to get the individual shows.
If all they will do is show Google content. Hardware is now much like beige boxes. If they don't show youtube, they have nothing. So whatever intel comes up with or even Apple, they will simply show youtube content and so will line Google bottom line. They can try and create content outside the Google ecosystem but we know where that went with apple maps.
they will simply show youtube content and so will line Google bottom line. They can try and create content outside the Google ecosystem but we know where that went with apple maps.
I remember TV being about well Movies and Soaps and Scu-fi, Dramas, Reality shows etc etc Internet Video is just part of that...and exists outside Google and youtube [albeit very successful], the reality is Google will simply integrate their services inside whatever platform is dominant...its ecosystem is OS agnostic.
Ironically Apple not only removed Google Maps it removed the link to youtube...nobody made such a big deal about youtube.
All three companies are scrambling to find their way in the IT world of today.
I think you have been asleep. The interesting think about these companies interact with each other has changed. Intel...have their own OS without Microsoft...Tizen[I suspect the OS they would use]; Microsoft produced a tablet without Intel, and as its own preferred OEM!. Dell announced they will do nothing, Nada, Zilch its sitting like a little bitch doing nothing while everyone else old fashioned competes [knives in backs/fronts everywhere]....Now HP on the other hand.
The reality is the desktop actually is unchanged...its damaged a little for its mobile push, but its still the crappy monopoly it always was just a little more touchscreen.
...it became a electronics company. Microsoft is a software company....wanting to become a electronics company.
To be fair right now I think all electronics/hardware companies need to have more Software on their portfolio as that is where a lot of the advantages in this new smart world come from. Steve Jobs as he moved the company into an electronicvs one always stressed they were a software company.
Randon Steve Jobs Quote
"If you look at the reason that the iPod exists, it's because these really great Japanese consumer electronics companies who kind of own the portable music market, invented it and owned it, couldn't do the appropriate software, couldn't conceive of and implement the appropriate software. Because an iPod's really just software. It's software in the iPod itself, it's software on the PC or the Mac, and it's software in the cloud for the store. And it's in a beautiful box, but it's software. If you look at what a Mac is, it's OS X, right? It's in a beautiful box, but it's OS X. And if you look at what an iPhone will hopefully be, it's software." - All Things Digital conference, May 30, 2007
...except there is very little wrong with TV. It does need more time-shifting, and less advertising, but solutions have been constantly improving since the VHS/Betamax wars. Todays set-top boxies/Tivos/Hard Disc Players are already very good, and yes there is room for improvement.
I include this link to a Father Ted its brilliant on its own but it emphasises a fundamental point
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25N-4zrk390 ...small...far away.
I cannot use this product on my android phone; 5 year old router, and Ubuntu box attached to my TV!!! Like say Upnp/DNLA the standard that everyone else uses. Apple propietaruy crap just "doesn't work" well with anything other than other Apple kit.
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Please, please, please, for God's sake, please.