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Windows 8 Even Less Popular Than Vista

New submitter NettiWelho writes with even more bad news for Microsoft. From the article: "Windows 8 uptake has slipped behind Vista's at the same point after its release. Windows 8 online usage share is around 1.6% of all Windows PCs, which is less than the 2.2% share that Windows Vista commanded at the same two-month mark after release. Net Applications monitors operating system usage by recording OS version for around 40,000 sites it monitors for clients. The slowdown for Windows 8 adoption is a bad sign for Microsoft, who experienced great success with the release of Windows 7. Data was measured up to the 22nd of December, so there is still time by the end of the month for Windows 8 to claim a higher percentage of the user base."

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  1. cornered animal by caywen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They worked their assed off, but made some really bad decisions. Now, sales are looking like a disaster - in their core revenue generator. Microsoft is beginning to feel like a cornered animal. It does still have claws, and hopefully the board will understand just how badly steveb has executed, once it sees the bottom starting to fall out. 2013 will be an entertaining year seeing how Microsoft scrambles. I'd start with a tutorial that wasn't a 2 hour hack job.

  2. Steve Balmer by asmkm22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The CEO needs to be let go. It should have happened a long time ago, but I can't see them letting him off the hook yet again. He has literally done nothing positive for the company since he took over.

  3. Re:Windows 8 blows by EzInKy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Beyond DirectX 11.1 support, security. Fast start up and shutdowns.

    So nothing really important then? If you can't stand to look at something you simply don't want it in your face.

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  4. Re:It's not dead. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I imagine Microsoft may just release a patch that fixes everything into a "classic" view to gain more sales.

    What amazes me is that(at least at time of writing) they don't even offer a group policy setting that lets their whiny corporate customers set all their definitely-not-touchscreen boring typingboxes to go directly to desktop by default.

    It isn't terribly tricky to script an invocation of "explorer.exe shell:::{3080F90D-D7AD-11D9-BD98-0000947B0257}" on login; but the fact that they don't just offer a GPO setting to switch strongly suggests that somebody at Microsoft is hitting the kool-aide far harder than is advisable.

    I just don't understand it. With Vista, the mystery was how they'd managed to get so little done in 6-odd years of development, the core product just kind of sucked. With Win8, they essentially have the (generally well-liked) base of Win7, with a bunch of modest improvements in various areas, and then Metro. All they'd have to do is make it optional(or get really crazy and have it default on or off depending on whether the device has a touchscreen or not...) and everybody would stop whining more or less immediately. It's just sort of baffling.

  5. Re:Microsoft - the company with two left feet by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Define "top rate" please. Somehow, I think you've discounted all those unethical business practices.

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  6. Re:A couple things that kept me from upgrading... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Installing a start button replacement is not the answer. This will only help windows 8 to have more market share. Understand their stated intention is to do away with the desktop and non-metro apps completely. If you are using windows 8, even if you have modified it to be identical to windows 7, it still registers as a sale to them and thus supports there ultimate goal of turning windows into a cobbled cellphone OS on your desktop where you have to sign into an account and download software exclusively from an App store.

    Please stop telling people to use these damned tools. Tell them the ultimate answer to the problems with windows 8 is to downgrade.

    Do not let them put you in the pot and bring it to a boil slowly.

  7. Re:It's not dead. by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It isn't terribly tricky to script an invocation of "explorer.exe shell:::{3080F90D-D7AD-11D9-BD98-0000947B0257}" on login; but the fact that they don't just offer a GPO setting to switch strongly suggests that somebody at Microsoft is hitting the kool-aide far harder than is advisable.

    At they highest levels of Microsoft, they are convinced that providing the same "user experience" to mobile users as desktop users will be Microsoft's salvation. Somehow they think that this will force adoption of mobile devices running Windows (they think that users will demand Microsoft mobile devices because they look the same as PCs). That's why they don't want to allow people to make PCs easy to configure such that they are different to mobile devices.

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  8. Re:It's not dead. by RDW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "We hate features and like to pretend that Gnome classic doesn't exist" - The Gnome 3 Roadmap (Status: Implementation in progress).

    FTFY

  9. Re:It's not dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Correct. The only way they think they can possibly win the smartphone/tablet markets now, is to leverage their Windows PC monopoly. The only way they can do that is to make the Windows PC look like the Windows smartphone/tablet, force people to get used to it, and then hope that will translate to a preference for Windows on the portable devices.

    It's actually not a completely misguided strategy.

    Well, it is misguided in that Microsoft should actually try to win markets by making better products. But they have never been good at that. Their entire success is based on leveraging their Windows PC monopoly, so this strategy is "do what works".

    With any luck, all this will do is start the ball slowly rolling (if it isn't already) on the eventual decline of the PC stranglehold. People have predicted this many times before, but things are a bit different. Smartphones and tablets with iOS and Android are now a huge market and huge user base. OSX on the desktop is actually reaching a noticeable size. And Microsoft is doing their best to alienate ISVs who are increasingly looking to these other platforms (and even Linux-on-PC) to escape.

  10. Re:It's not dead. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Gates said, that he "wanted to own the desktop." And he ended up doing it.

    With Metro, Ballmer is saying that he wants to "own the user interface of everything." Traditional PCs, and also tablets, and phones. Since they already "own the desktop", they are starting their offensive there. And what other choice will an average user have, who buys a new PC? It will come with Windows 8, and Metro. If Microsoft can win the user interface war there, they hope tablets and phones will follow. A nice strategy for them, it sucks for us, getting stuck with a Metro that nobody really wants.

    I personally believe that they are too late. Folks are hooked and happy with their Android and Apple gadgets, and won't switch over to Microsoft gadgets, just to have a common interface.

    In fact, the whole thing could backfire for Microsoft. If the new user experience with Metro on PCs is negative, folks will definitely NOT want it on their gadgets.

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  11. Re:Microsoft - the company with two left feet by Tough+Love · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft's decline started on Bill Gates' watch. Maybe Ballmer will preside over the "fall" phase. Maybe Ballmer's next trick will be learning to play the fiddle while playing with matches.

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  12. Re:It's not dead. by Patch86 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Insulting how? I've worked in dead-end admin jobs before. Low wages, mostly staffed by 18 year olds and part time mothers. There were a lot of people there without a lot of IT skills, and they would most certainly not consider themselves to be "professional customer change of address people", etc. Profession implies a level of specialist knowledge and commitment that they would definitely not claim was required.

    These are people who will require training if you change the tools you've given them to do their job. Being told "bugger off and learn how to use it in your own time somehow" is not going to cut it; and any IT department that thinks it will is full of idiots.

  13. Re:It's not dead. by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think people are missing the point of the 'Metro' interface. It's not about the interface ... that's just the excuse. They want to lock down the software market and get a cut of all the sales, plus more control over what's installed. Metro will stay. The older interface will become less and less useful ... more and more crippled. They want what Apple has with iOS. Even Apple wants what they have with iOS and is doing the same thing with OS X.

  14. Re:It's not dead by RDW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If there had been some EASY and OBVIOUS way to get rid of the METRO interface and go back to a Classic Shell she might have been happy with it, but after an hour of trying to do anything useful she wanted it boxed up and she has already returned it for a refund.

    The Classic Shell I use is a third party addon:

    http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/

    It's a useful project that has been adding back features removed by MS from Vista onwards. Their start menu actually pre-dates Win 8 - it's more configurable than the standard Win 7 menu.

    Of course, it's crazy that downloading something like this is even necessary!

  15. Re:Will Microsoft call on Burson-Marsteller to fix by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is funny is these PR firms are apparently lazy as hell as I've noticed when someone will post a criticism of Win 8 a hell of a lot of the time the "its great!" Win 8 response you'll get back you can drop a line of in Google and they've posted the same reply word for word across dozens of sites, its like the fricking Nigerian prince emails. I don't know which is funnier, the shill copypasta or the "Oh that is not a problem, all you have to do is (big pile of keyboard crap)" which of course i just HAVE to reply with "So THIS is innovation? We need cheat sheets for our OSes again like its 1985?"

    I have never seen a company in all my years just up and completely destroy themselves like this, damnedest thing I've ever seen. For those that think Win 8 is just the "Star Trek Rule" in action you might want to look up the "Windows Blue" memo, in it Ballmer lays out what he is doing in 2013 to "save Microsoft"...ready? He is gonna fuck the hell out of the OEMs and pretty much kill Nokia so that MSFT can make phones (just like Apple) tablets (ditto) desktops (notice a pattern?) and laptops (Ray Charles could see through this) and all of which will be priced HIGHER than anything Apple is offering, because dammit high prices MUST mean its good, after all people buy Apple right?

    So congrats MSFT haters, you are gonna get to see the company completely self destruct as the PHB in charge torpedoes everything that Gates spent 20+ years building because he is too damned stupid to realize you can't slap a coat of paint on a Pinto and have it compete with Porsche. It took Apple decades to build its rep as a high end brand, Ballmer thinks all he has to do is triple the pricetag on everything and voila! Suddenly Windows is hip and trendy...NOT!

    If the board doesn't stop smoking crack and fire this moron I predict in 3 years Apple will own the top, Google will own the bottom, and MSFT will be RIM, with nothing left but legacy business installs and even those will be looking at exit strategies. The truly sad part of it all is the day of the DIY desktop will end, you'll buy a black box Android or Apple and that will be that, unless you have workstation money it'll all be black box like the ChromeBooks.

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