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Connecticut Group Wants Your Violent Videogames — To Destroy Them

Posted by timothy on from the world-is-a-strange-place dept.

DavidGilbert99 writes with this excerpt from IB Times: "The Sandy Hook shooting once again raised the debate about how much power violent videogames wield over teenagers. Following proclamations from the National Rifle Association and the establishment of a study by the National Academy of Sciences to investigate the psychological effects of violent games on children, a group in Connecticut is now having its say Southington, a town 30 miles from where the shooting took place, is offering gift tokens in exchange for violent videogames, as well as other violent media such as DVDs or videos. The group, called SouthingtonSOS, said in a statement: 'There is ample evidence that violent video games, along with violent media of all kinds, including TV and movies portraying story after story showing a continuous stream of violence and killing, has contributed to increasing aggressiveness, fear, anxiety and is desensitizing our children to acts of violence including bullying.'" And Yes, they plan to destroy the traded-in games. (Note: Beware the obnoxious auto-playing video ad with sound; adjust volume accordingly.)

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  1. People should play more pinball by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People should play more pinball.

  2. Get your stinking paws off me by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They can have my violent video games when they pry them from my cold dead hands!

  3. Don't get it by LiquidMind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    i really REALLY don't get this obsession with linking violent video games to violent behavior. Take yours truly:

    Born in 1980, I played all the big titles: From Wolfenstein, Doom, Solider of Fortune, to whatever latest titles are out (I can't remember what all the Call of Duty flavors are called, but you get the idea). Hell, I even designed Doom and Half-Life levels based on my old high school (shit, don't tell anyone or they'll come after me next!!!)

    At some point in my 20s, I joined the Marines for 4 years, so I know how to use a rifle.

    Neither before nor after my service have i EVER had violent tendencies that made me go on a shooting spree. I deal with stress every day (Hello IT, working for an international liquor company that needs to be up 24/7) yet I still score normal blood pressure numbers.

    I just don't get this obsession. There are always a few nuts. The rest of us are fairly well-adjusted.

    Stupid media. Stupid fear-mongering. Stupid people.

    done ranting now.

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    1. Re:Don't get it by rokstar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The obsession isn't anything new, the target is just different now. Used to be that comic books were the cause of all moral decay in america's youth. Go far enough back and i'd put good money that someone thought opera was the reason for violent crime. So just remember that you don't understand this obsession when holographic vid novels are dragged through the mud as being responsible for all of societies woes and maybe we can break this stupid cycle.

    2. Re:Don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I just don't get this obsession. There are always a few nuts. The rest of us are fairly well-adjusted.

      THIS. A thousand times.

      Look -- I think the gun control crowd basically has one legitimate point that is nearly triviailly weighed against. My bias declared up front.

      But there's been school shootings for at least four centuries. Their frequency is likely easily plotted out with some basic statistical physics or similar applications. The "epidemic" is so insubstantial as to be boring to everyone but CDC types with a moral obligation to treat it as such.

      But I don't even need science for this, just memory and a bit of knowledge of history.

      Before I was born there were witch trials, pogroms, purges, mccarthyism.... and all of these were in reaction to *shit happening* (although not necessarily caused by the victims of these activities)

      In my relatively short lifetime there's been panic over D&D/satanism, rock & rap music (remember tipper gore?), trenchcoats (after columbine), pedos, terrorism, and I would claim drug use. Every five years or so we need a new internal societal threat.

      These might all have a legit correlation with some form of violence. I really don't know (or care -- if they are or aren't correlated is immaterial to me, they mostly fall under the guise of the 0th freedom of thought).

      But people want to find a way to understand bad things happening. They will latch on and clasp desperately to God, to an outlier, to anything to explain the 'senseless' violence they see rather than admit we are big dangerous apes with a thin veneer of civilization.

      To point out anything not them that they can collectively engage in risk-free destruction of in part of the big orgy of lynchmobbery -- ideally through the tyranny of the majority driven through by the rifles of the government and their easy taxy dollars. Because this is how civilized white people destroy things -- with a pen stroke instead of a rioting mob.

      And that is really all that well-adjusted means.

      BRB, gonnna watch some CNN and Fox....

    3. Re:Don't get it by PhxBlue · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You became a professional soldier but you don't see that as an expression of your violent tendencies?

      Step back from yourself for a moment and think about that.

      Oh, bullshit.

      People join the armed forces because it's a job with a regular paycheck. They join because the military offers some sweet medical benefits. They join because they want to go to college without spending the rest of their lives in debt. They join because they had family members in the military.

      And some of them join because they believe the Constitution and what it represents matters enough to risk their lives defending it.

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    4. Re:Don't get it by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It proves that the military believe this link exists.

      Actually, it doesn't even prove that. It proves that the military believes the games are useful for training in some way--which might be making trainees more willing to kill, or it might be improving their reflexes or their tactical awareness, or it might just be as a morale-boosting tool for a generation of recruits who grew up playing the games. Personally, having served as both an infantryman and a medic, and having become very familiar in the latter capacity with what the consequences of real-world violence look like, I'm deeply skeptical that even the most realistic modern video games will do much to "desensitize" anyone to actual killing.

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  4. Give them a bit of credit .... by pollarda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After all, they are asking people to voluntarily turn in their video games which people are free to do -- or not. This stands in stark contrast to those who would ban violent video games entirely and who would most likely support video game confiscation and for those who really want to play violent video games, background checks and registration. By requiring registration, it ensures that some newspaper will publish a map as to who owns violent video games or not so that violent video game owner's friends and neighbors may demonize them.

    Meanwhile, I'll burn a stack of CD's that I can turn in for a stack of coupons.

    1. Re:Give them a bit of credit .... by dcollins117 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While I understand the impulse to "do something" in response to the Sandy Hook shootings, I'm bewildered that this is the issue they've decided to pursue. It's quite simply a misdirected effort that will have absolutely no effect to curtail further mass shootings.

    2. Re:Give them a bit of credit .... by jythie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While initially (and likely) harmless, such events echo a dark past. The US has a long history of 'voluntary' destruction of scapegoat media which, if they latch on to a big enough moral panic, end up exerting significant social pressure on people to 'volunteer'. They also tend to have the problem of parents (or other quasi authority figures lik significant others) getting caught up in the hysteria and destroying their children/partner's media for them. They can actually have a pretty corrosive force.

      And of course there is the effigy element of it. Even if other locals do not give up their media, knowing that a group is going around collecting for destruction something you consider important can be a bit unnerving... esp if they start using actual bonfires.

      Thus, stuff like this in isolation seems harmless, but can tie in to a larger pattern or even become bigger themselves.

    3. Re:Give them a bit of credit .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But the sandy bridge shooter didn't play violent video games... He played star craft.. His brother was the one who did, so the media thought he did the shooting. They blamed the shooting on the wrong person because the media is retarded.

    4. Re:Give them a bit of credit .... by aevan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Dunno..sounds like would have the opposite effect: shooter goes to NRA convention, pulls out gun, gets off two maybe three shots...then is gunned down himself by everyone there.

      End Totals:
      Sandy Hook: 30 dead + gunman
      NRA: 2 dead +gunman

      On the other hand could end up with the world's largest bloodbath as people miss, hit the wrong people, people have no idea who the original shooter was, and they all just fire at anything remotely threatening (i.e. everyone else).

    5. Re:Give them a bit of credit .... by Sentrion · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You wouldn't need a gun, just a firecracker and a turban on your head.

    6. Re:Give them a bit of credit .... by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While a misunderstanding could lead to a bloodbath, the reality is that almost everyone who doesn't hightail it out of there will hit the deck, find cover, draw their weapons and threaten to shoot anyone they don't know who moves towards them. It would be the biggest Mexican standoff ever recorded, but if no one went literally nuts, it would probably be stable until the police arrive to disarm everyone.

      More guns could cause problems in a crowded area, but a great deal of people who might be at those conventions are probably trained and experienced in the use of firearms and they wouldn't necessarily be unable to do threat identification. Not to mention you'll probably get at least one off-duty cop in the mix.

  5. Re:Better price than gamestop? by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Then you run into the same problem as people trading in broken or useless guns to the gun buyback:

    By turning in your property, you effectively endorse their political cause. They get to say that "X number of people turned in this filth to get it off of our streets and out of our schools!". Personally, I'm not willing to become part of their cause and make that value of X going higher at any cost.

    If you actually do find their message convincing then by all means turn in your games.

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  6. Re:Here come the deniers by Fuzi719 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So what of all those children in other Western countries who watch the same movies and TV shows and play the same video games and have nearly the same access to weapons as do Americans, yet they don't go on violent rampages with the frequency of Americans?

  7. Re:Haw by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Jocks go on to become executives, lawyers, and politicians. Social outcasts might shoot up a movie theater every year or so, but it was jocks who got us into Iraq and caused civilian casualties in the hundreds of thousands.

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  8. Re:Better price than gamestop? by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes you do. You need to think emotionally and politically.
    No one is gong to track what you spend your token on. They will just count the number of games Point at the pile and say 'See!' why won't you DOOOOOOO something!'

    No different then book burning.

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  9. Re:One Little Problem with "Increasing" Crime Idea by Creepy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't care if people criticize video games - I'm opposed to people demonizing video games, when the facts seem to say otherwise. In regards to video game related crime, from http://www.theeca.com/video_games_violence website:

    As videogames have become more popular in the U.S., violent crime has decreased dramatically, particularly among youth.
            In 2001, the U.S. Surgeon General found that: "...it was extremely difficult to distinguish between the relatively small long-term effects of exposure to media violence and those of other influences."
            In the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) report on school violence, Lessons Learned: An FBI Perspective School Violence Seminar, they include a school shooter profile listing thirty factors that may be indicators of potentially devastating violent acts, but the FBI excluded playing video games from that list.
            In a four part series on rampage killings, the New York Times examined the influence of media on offenders' actions and found: "While the killings have caused many people to point to the violent aspects of the culture, a closer look shows little evidence that video games, movies or television encouraged many of the attacks."

    Incidentally, something like 2 days later a guy kills a couple of firemen with the same gun (a Bushmaster .223) and the guy is obviously not a video game player, but we won't mention that anywhere. Another guy shoots up a shopping mall and also is not known to be a video game player, so no talk of what caused his craziness. Suddenly the media hears "the shooter is a video game player" and Jesus is on the fucking cross and video games are to blame.