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College CIO Predicts Tablets Will Kill Smart Boards

CowboyRobot writes "Keith Fowlkes (vice chancellor for information technology and CIO at the University of Virginia's College at Wise) has a commentary at Information Week in which he makes the point that moving forward, colleges will be able to dump all the 'smart' classroom tools and devices (e.g. electronic whiteboards, clickers, projection systems, etc.) and will only need to support students' tablets. The reasoning comes down to the return on investment, which is easy to argue for tablets but not for other classroom technologies. Standardization of video across devices remains a problem, as does the issue of where files are stored and how they are shared. But these are solvable problems and we will soon see the day when electronic whiteboards are a distant memory." I think the issue of file storage was solved by openafs a long time ago, certainly at the scale of a small university.

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  1. Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by crazyjj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's put aside the fact that a LOT of professors don't like the idea of students even bringing smartphones into class, much less tablets and notebooks. Let's put aside the fact this guy sounds like someone whining about his budget, who has possibly been approached by a slick salesman who's sold him on the idea of some app that's just going to require a "small investment." Let's put aside the fact the professors are still, by and large, a bunch of old farts--many of whom are still using the same blackboard presentations and transparencies that they were using 30 years ago.

    To me, the most obvious counter to this assertion is the notebook. Students have had notebooks en masse for 10-15 years now, and THOSE didn't really revolutionize the classroom. And if notebooks, which are way more powerful and open than tablets, didn't really change things all that much--then what makes him think that tablets will?

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    1. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tablets won't for the same reason laptops didn't. People will show up with any number of different make/model of tables with different versions of different operating systems on them with different capabilities and different versions of different applications then fold in that the user's will have varying levels of skill is the use of these devices...

      You'd end up with the instructor (usually not all that technically savvy) using up the class time trying to get their presentation/software/whatever to work on everybody's device rather than actually teaching anything.

      Between the above reasons and arcane licensing restrictions on a number of specialized software titles we still maintain actual computer labs, you know, rooms full of PCs, something we were told would go away more than ten years ago.

    2. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Informative

      No matter make nor model nor OS, there is already a nice presentation system that works with all of them. You are using a version of it now. Making a simple website that replaces power point should be something any professor can handle.

    3. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      All this ignores the obvious: from a human factors perspective, one large surface with professor walking around and touching it seems to work best.

      For another example of this *style* of interaction but with everyone participating from a screen, see weather forecasting. The meteorologist is blue screened in so he can gesture and such.

      So long as there are physically students in the same room as the teacher, there will be a large shared screen that actually has stuff on it. For remote only, in theory the professor could be blue-screened onto the materials, but given the more interactive nature of education, it's probably that a professor would still have a big screen simply to make modifying the contents less awkward.

    4. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You think designing a presentation in HTML is easier than Powerpoint?!? Hell, my dog could probably put together a Powerpoint presentation. With HTML, even something as simple as getting a graphic to go exactly where you want it can be a pain in the ass.

      I know the MS hatred here is strong, but don't kid yourself. Powerpoint is #1 for a reason. And one of those reasons is that it's braindead simple and easy to use (and I've known even CS profs who need braindead simple)

    5. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A good presentation sure is. 99% of Powerpoint is bad presentations though.

      Being worried about the exact spot a graphic is in makes me think you want to create bad presentations.

      Powerpoint is #1 because it lets you turn 5 minutes of information into an hour long lecture with useless graphics and animations.

    6. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you don't get much of a chance to observe kids across the range of education and you are involved in IT futures at all, it is worth looking at and thinking about.

      Notebooks have always been just expensive enough and big enough that, while kids had access to them, they had to make an effort to get them and use them. 7 years ago, when you had a laptop, you still had to put in effort to understand how to connect one to the internet and then make it happen -- often involving money. That is where the change happened.

      The generation of current under 10 year olds had access to always-connected-tablets/phones before they encountered formal education. Today's Jr High kids weren't quite reading when mom first put an iphone in their hands to distract them, and they have been fixated on them ever since. Kids don't have go get the laptop or carry one around. They just pull the small tablet out of their skinny jeans when they are and use their bigger one when they can, if they want to.

      This is the first generation that will be far more comfortable with the touch/glass interface than a physical keyboard by the time they hit the workforce. They don't know a world where the internet wasn't always and immediately at their disposal and have never experienced a life where they had to put in effort to find access or understand even the basics about how it works. They play game and live their social lives on them, they get Christmas and birthday gifts for applications or services on them, they watch television and movies on them and they read on them. Oh, and they learn on them all the time. Everything from lets-play videos, to cooking and dancing, foreign languages and even how to make their own videos for the internet are all things I've seen my own kids absorb via youtube on a tablet as something they chose to do 'for fun'. And it was far more normal and engaging for them to do it on "their own" tablet than a laptop or normal computer.

      The current batch of undergrads, which is really the end of the laptop generation, has adopted phones/tablets as well obviously. But more importantly, so has the current generation of graduate student and they are the teaching workforce and heirs apparent of the current faculty. Universities that maintain large footprint wireless networks are seeing record numbers of concurrent connections and it is changing IT strategy across higher ed. You already can't walk 10 steps on a large university during the semester without seeing a tablet and that was never the case with laptops. That's with the generation of people who had to learn to switch to tablets.

      So yeah. Tablets are different. And it isn't just marketing hype. If you are like me, you find them somewhat convenient at times but also annoying to use and you would rather stick with what is comfortable. But for kids today, laptops are the annoyingly quaint technology.

    7. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Being worried about the exact spot a graphic is in means you give two shits about how your presentation looks. It's a presentation, so like, visuals are sort of key.

      You've already failed.

      Powerpoint presentations are almost universally bad because people spend more time making the presentation than they do making the content they are going to speak about, and you're just type type of person confirming that fact.

      The visuals of a presentation either need to present and image/animation/movie of something that can't be described by the speaker accurately enough, or simply a rehash of the major bullet points of the presentation itself.

      The powerpoint IS NOT THE PRESENTATION, it is a SECONDARY AID to help with the speaker's description.

      Unless the aspect ratio is WAY off, it is irrelevant. HTML is PERFECTLY acceptable for presentations if they are done properly.

      The issue you have with HTML versus powerpoint means you're doing it wrong in the first place, not that HTML is the issue.

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    8. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Informative

      okay using just html diagram a 3 stage amplifier at the component level (with voltage/current values).

      Man, that's easy - Take a picture of the diagram from the book using your cell phone. Email it to your desktop. Paste it into Word. Now, save it as a .pdf and import it into Powerpoint.

      Jeez, you'd think technology was hard or something.

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    9. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And the reverse is even truer - given a good teacher, it makes no difference what technology they use or if indeed they use any technology at all.

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    10. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by NoSleepDemon · · Score: 2

      Sure you do, it's another way of conveying information. For instance, how many people would rather see a map as plain text vs an image of the map itself? What about a graph plotting statistics that show progression? Maybe you want to show a screenshot or photograph of something significant, again text won't do. There are plenty of frivolous things that images aren't required for, like clipart to "pretty" (ha) up a presentation, but the reverse is also true.

    11. Re:Then why didn't that happen with notebooks? by RatherBeAnonymous · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Perhaps they would... If they were employed to produce word documents.

  2. Or, projectors and tablets together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tablet for the actual interaction, projector so all the others can see.
    That would certainly kill off the need for smart boards, which are just obtuse to work with in general.

    1. Re:Or, projectors and tablets together by Stewie241 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, for math/science especially, you need something that the professor can walk up to in front of the class and point to things. i.e. point out what part of an equations he/she is talking about or use gestures to illustrate a relationship between two parts of something.

    2. Re:Or, projectors and tablets together by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 2

      Tablet for the actual interaction, projector so all the others can see.
      That would certainly kill off the need for smart boards, which are just obtuse to work with in general.

      I disagree, but you are mostly correct.

      With the rise of online education, I would wager you will see MORE use of smartboards, or at least a push for use of smartboards for dual in-person/online courses. The Smartboard will remain a critical element to capture the ephemerial 'chalk board' segment of a live lecture.

      Imagine that the professor is giving a normal presentation using a white board, while a camera captures the lecture for the online audience. Anything the professor does on the whiteboard is important for the online students to see. Typical lecture cameras are insufficient to capture the detail of a whiteboard in video. The current approach tends to require static pre-generated lecture notes/slides which the online students can refer to, but any deviation from the slides will only appear on the whiteboard, and it is very easy for a professor to forget to 'capture' what he writes on the board.

      The smartboard is probably the best method to capture this information, and send it realtime to the online students. As an added benefit, nothing is lost to the eraser between slides/lectures.

      For my signals processing course, I generated about 10-15 pages of notes PER LECTURE where the professor would use a dry-erase marker to write on an old school overhead projector. Had he used a smartboard, I would have been able to focus less on furious copying of the lengthy problems he was working through, and observe more actively, knowing I could refer back to the perfect copy of projector scribblings the smartboard captured.

      A tablet interface just doesn't cut it for working complex problems. In school, I remember something I called the chalkboard effect. If I was having difficulty with a math problem on paper, I would go to an empty classroom and work the problem out on the chalkboard, something about that form factor (size perhaps?) made working problems on the chalkboard almost trivial compared to the difficulty of the problem when worked on paper.

      Sure, the professor could write on a tablet, but that would eliminate a good 70% of the communication potential of the human body. Without the ability to use body language, gesture, refer easily to comments on side boards, etc, trying to teach via tablet would be a huge pain.

      So in summary, you are right about the projector, and certainly using a tablet, but I think the tablet would work best in the hands of the audience, while the professor works from the giant tablet (the smartboard)

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  3. Which tablets? by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 5, Funny

    Makes sense. Why have just the one big screen that can display information when you could have a whole department devoted to a system that can push information to a wide range of tablets with different operating systems, software installations and capabilities. It's far more fun trying to work around the 30% of students who don't have LaTeX installed, the 42% without Flash, the 19% without an HTML5 browser and the guy who should be expelled because he prefers a notebook and pen.

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    1. Re:Which tablets? by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 2

      Disclaimer: all figures pulled from thin air. If only I'd had a tablet handy, I could have found the real figures...

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  4. Video Standards by vlpronj · · Score: 2

    I think "standardization of video standards" would be the biggest bugbear here - which college student will want to avoid a device that uses the latest Retina display or equivalent, if it means the 640x480, or equivalent "low-end" spec of the time will look either tiny or crappy on their screen? Look back a few years - we had the VGA "standard", XGA, WGA, etc., then the whole 4:3, 16:9, or 16:10 aspect ratio shift.

  5. OpenAFS by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Uh, sure. Ever try to actually get it working? Good luck doing that on iOS - it is a royal pain on Linux, let alone Windows.

    The sad thing is that OpenAFS is the only networked POSIX filesystem I'm aware of that actually works reasonably well and is secure. Pity that nobody actually uses it. NFSv4 with all the features enabled looks to be almost as good, and just as painful to set up.

    Why is it that I can take any Windows box and right click on a folder and turn on sharing, enter a password, and get something that is fairly secure, and yet the same feature does not exist on Linux? Sure, for a fortune 500 company setting up Kerberos and such makes sense, but to share a few files between two PCs?

    1. Re:OpenAFS by robmv · · Score: 3, Informative

      You know It exist, it is called Samba. Install, add the resource to share to the configuration file (or use the distribution GUI for it) and done. Samba is not only for Windows interoperability, it works perfectly between Linux boxes, it even has protocol extensions for better *nix interoperability. then if you need a real secure setup for your company, then use NFS with Kerberos

    2. Re:OpenAFS by zerosomething · · Score: 2

      It's called BOX and it's there for your University if you want. http://www.internet2.edu/news/pr/2011.10.04.box.html

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  6. Terrible idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of the main problems with this idea is that while tablets may certainly offer a good way for professors to guide students, they also come with a plethora of non-educational distractions (i.e., games and the Internet). I use lots of technology in my classroom and students frequently study Internet topics, but in the classroom itself all electronics are banned except those used by me. Students just cannot resist the distraction offered by cell phones and laptops, and classroom discussion suffers as a result.

  7. Cell phone cameras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Tablets didn't kill smartboards - cell phone cameras did. I've been in over 100 different client boardrooms and seen dozens of smartboard setups, but I've never actually seen one that worked properly. A plain whiteboard and a cell phone camera, on the other hand, capture the notes very simply and effectively. It may not be the fanciest solution but it's by far the most convenient.

  8. nope by slashmydots · · Score: 2

    Most wireless routers can only support 50 clients at a time and that's in theory on the specs, not in practice. So unless they want RF-proof walls and 1 router per classroom, and no other 2.4GHz devices in the entire school, I think there might just be a little problem getting them on the network to stream course materials and presentations. So no, tablets in every students' is an idiotic idea that won't work.

  9. OFFS by KalvinB · · Score: 2

    oh for ... sake.

    The SmartBoard physical device can be replaced with a $50 Wiimote ($20 clone) and infrared light pen ($30)

    The SmartBoard software, on the other hand, is what you're really paying for.

    Here's a free alternative to the software:

    http://open-sankore.org/

    The only person who we should even consider giving tech to is the teacher.

    What kills the SmartBoard and tablets in the class is the low resolution. It's like drawing with a crayon. And it's difficult to face the students when using it.

    I've found the best alternative is a simple document camera that can be built with an HD webcam (requires a minimum 1024x768 projector as well) and some free software I wrote. And yes, I used this in an actual classroom during my student teaching.

    http://coteach.org/1000-classroom/

    I put together the $1000 classroom to try this stuff out. Give me a steady supply of dry erase markers for students to use and a document camera and I'm happy. With the document camera I can sit or stand facing the students while I write. And everyone can see clearly what I'm writing. For student interaction, they come up and write on the board.

    But, this is why I'm not rich. I'm not in the business of selling overpriced worthless crap to the education system.

  10. Agreed by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2

    Having worked for a "smart" board maker a few years ago, we did a study that dealt with a problem where most teachers used their fancy new expensive interactive smart board as nothing more then a second monitor and glorified projector, if even at all. Our software tracks board touches and saw that there was very little user interaction. In the same study we saw a huge proliferation in the use of tablets in schools which are highly interactive and touchable.

    The reality is that the education systems are slowly changing away from the 100's year old paradigm of people lecturing to a new concept of students "exploring" education at their own pace. Not all students learn at the same pace, some students learn math and logic faster then language, others the opposite. Forcing all students to study the same subject matter at the same time is why schools are good at creating failures rather then successes. A child that doesn't do math by grade 3 should not be considered remedial, for instance, and thus shunted to a system of lower expectations, their math skills may have clicked in later in development and could be as or even more proficient then anyone else that learned math earlier.

    So, the concept of a fixed focal point for a classroom is slowly eroding to more student-centric learning. The idea of self-guided learning is an emerging concept in many schools where the curriculum is a serious of self-guided lessons where the "teacher" is there to help students understand the lessons when they struggle.

    The problem with the company I worked for (and why I left) was that in spite of having this study and seeing their product tucked away in a corner being unused, they still insist on creating single focal point solutions for the classroom and only loosely investing into tablet based solutions. Sure the concepts of collaboration and interactivity between students is important, but not necessarily the only way to proceed with education. Smart boards are still expensive and often underutilized and in spite of some initial interest level from students, quickly become bored with the technology, unlike tablets.

    Better integration between smart boards and tablets would be the only way to save this company, but alas, is being greatly overlooked.

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  11. Camtasia, Evernote, Graphics tablet, mic by javamage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been recording and posting my lectures at JHU using Camtasia for many years...

    I whiteboard using a graphics tablet (Wacom Bamboo fun, drawing ink notes on Evernote). I write code examples on the fly in Eclipse (and if Android apps, run them in an emulator or use droid@screen to mirror). I surf to websites. When I rarely have slides, I show them. Everything I say (using a headset mic) and do is recorded using Camtasia. After class I do some minor edits and post the videos and example code from the class on the course website after class.

    Much less expensive than a smartboard (even moreso if you use alternate recording software), and the students love it (almost everyone comments on it in the evals)

    • * They can review the entire lecture easily
    • * They can focus on what I'm currently saying, rather than on writing down what I just said (some still take notes, but they're much more top-level outline than all the details). This has greatly increased the flow of the class.
    • * If a student cannot come to class, they can still see everything that I did
    • * It allows me to review what I've said in previous terms

    I'm a little surprised that the students still come to class... I suspect it's because they like being able to ask questions and interact with the other students.

  12. The reliavility factor and chalk boards by sdguero · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I had several professors who had classes moved to get older rooms with chalk boards 10 years ago. The main complaints I heard were that dry erase boards were hard to clean, the markers were more expensive/dried out/missing/bigger, and that the dry erase boards had to be replaced every 2-3 years if they were used a lot. These professors (some of the best I had, including an amazing CS prof) put up with all short comings of chalk (like breathing in all that nasty dust) because chalk had never left them stranded MULTIPLE TIMES in front of there classes the way dry erase boards had.

  13. silly by bcrowell · · Score: 2

    I'm a college professor.

    The clickers, which are expensive for students, were never needed in the first place. The people who pioneered this teaching technique started by having students raise hands to vote. They observed that some students were reluctant to be embarrassed in front of their peers by raising their hands for a choice that might be wrong, so they handed out large cardboard cards with letters ABCD on them. Students held up the card so only the professor could see. Worked great. The clickers are a waste of money for students, and the extra functionality they make possible is extremely minimal in proportion to the cost.

    The idea of only supporting students' tablets is silly. It may be true at the University of Spoiled Children that basically everyone owns a laptop or tablet and brings it to school, but I assure you that that's not true at the community college where I teach. My students are generall extremely cheap and extremely broke. The projector works great. It's up at the front of the room where everyone can see it. If I need to point to it, I can pick up a meter stick and point. If I depend on students to have tablets, then at any given time some big percentage of them will be off task for a variety of reasons: don't own one, didn't bring it to school, dead batteries, using it to play games, doesn't have the right browser plugin, doesn't have enough resolution, wifi isn't working, ...