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Dean Kamen Invents Stomach Pump For Dieters

You may soon have another option to lose weight other than dieting and exercise thanks to Dean Kamen. The inventor has designed a pump that can suck the cheeseburgers out of your stomach and replace it with water. From the article: "The pump was invented by Dean Kamen, the same man who brought you the Segway, and perhaps more fittingly, a breakthrough dialysis machine. This pump works by routing a tube directly into the user's stomach and then sucking out some of the gooey, masticated goodness. The user then squeezes a little plastic bag to replace that volume of stomach-stew with water. Sounds great, right? There are some catches though. It hasn't been approved by the FDA yet, and some of the users in the tests had problems with certain foods like 'cauliflower, broccoli, Chinese food, stir fry, snow peas, pretzels, chips, and steak.' Oh, also there's a tube going into your stomach that you use to pump unpuked vomit into the toilet. Participants in trial studies did manage to lose about half of their excess weight this way, around 45 pounds on average, so apparently it works."

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  1. Isn't this just bulimia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or at least a marketable, respectable form of bulimia.

    1. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, it is. At least, it's bulimia. I don't see anything respectable at all about surgically altering yourself so you can gorge and still lose weight, and I guess time will tell if it's marketable (although I doubt it'll be even as successful as lap band surgery), but yeah, it's definitely mechanical barfing.

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    2. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The tube should ameliorate some of the dangerous effects of repeated exposure to gastric acids by the sensitive tissues and teeth of the mouth and throat, so there is that...

    3. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by jamesh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, it is. At least, it's bulimia. I don't see anything respectable at all about surgically altering yourself so you can gorge and still lose weight, and I guess time will tell if it's marketable (although I doubt it'll be even as successful as lap band surgery), but yeah, it's definitely mechanical barfing.

      Depends on the size of the target market. How many people are there in the US who love eating but don't want to be fat? Probably not many I guess.

    4. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by Nemyst · · Score: 3, Informative

      The difference is that bulimia is a mental disorder first and foremost. People go in cycles of bulimia and anorexia, they often aren't actually fat, and they'll usually have binges of eating before vomiting. On top of that, they'll rarely actually say anything to anyone.

      I can't see this not being supervised by a doctor, considering the tubes going in your body and all that. It's not the kind of thing you can do in your kitchen. It'll come with restrictions attached and a strict diet, if anything, so that people can get the tubes removed as soon as possible.

    5. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by AuMatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wrong question. How many people love eating, don't want to be fat, and think that this could possibly be a good or healthy idea? And want to deal with the disposal and cleanup of the pumped material? I love eating and it would be great to lose 100 pounds, but I know that this isn't safe and is actually counter-productive.

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    6. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by cffrost · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The tube should ameliorate some of the dangerous effects of repeated exposure to gastric acids by the sensitive tissues and teeth of the mouth and throat, so there is that...

      Sure, but the same benefits can be achieved via do-it-yourself nasogastric intubation, using a length of latex tubing and a hand-pump from the hardware store. No surgery, no inter-abdominal infection vector, no awkward situations in the bedroom or airport, and a total investment equivalent to a plateful of cheeseburgers.

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    7. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know about you, but I deal with disposal of some pretty nasty material from my body at least once a day already...

    8. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by Dahamma · · Score: 5, Informative

      I assume you have never been intubated (even by a real doctor) before? They do it for most surgeries (to the trachea, not stomach) and most people have a minor sore throat afterwards. Do that yourself (all the way down to your stomach, even worse) every day and you will mess up your esophagus, larynx, of some other structure in your throat a lot faster than gastric acids would.

    9. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by Firehed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      no awkward situations in the bedroom or airport

      You're kidding, right?

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    10. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by jklovanc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You seem to think that the plastic bag is inside the stomach. Not true. The water is just injected into the stomach through the tube that was being used to pump the juices out. It probably also acts as a cleaning agent so the tube does not become clogged.

    11. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      the problem is it takes will power out of the equation

      That's OK, most people are bad at math.

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    12. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You really should have that head wound looked at by a doctor...

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    13. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That might be a little high. I mean, not everyone "loves eating". Some of us eat because we are hungry. Some of us don't even eat every time we get hungry, but put it off for awhile. Some of us get up, and leave the dinner table before we feel "full".

      In my own personal slice of the world, far less than half of the people I know are "fat". Far fewer are "obese". Many of us could stand to lose 20 to 50 pounds, but that is merely "overweight". At a guess, most of those who are either physically fit, or a little bit overweight don't exactly "love eating". We just eat to stay healthy, for the most part.

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    14. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Weight loss surgery is not about wanting to lose weight with no effort or eat as much as you like. That is a common misconception that is hard to explain to people who don't struggle to control their weight.

      Willpower is not enough for a lot of people. Personally I suffer from both arthritis and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I am just about managing to keep my current weight, but could stand to loose 20kg or more. It isn't a case of being lazy, or weak, or stuffing my face with McShit all day. I'm way off the point where I would qualify for surgery but I can completely understand why it is necessary for some people.

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    15. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe if we stopped subsidized farming, the price of food would go up, and we wouldn't have so many people gorging themselves?

      Face it, as taxpayers, we are paying farmers to produce cheap foods so that more people can afford to be fat, so that we can pay MORE in taxes to take care of our diabetic, heart diseased, obese population.

      To make things worse, in spite of all that cheap food, the food processors replace cheap food stuffs with even cheaper junk like sugar, salt, preservatives, etc, to aggravate our health problems.

      Maybe we need to take a long hard look at the entire food economy.

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    16. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by jamesh · · Score: 4, Informative

      How many people are there in the US who love eating but don't want to be fat? Probably not many I guess.

      Not many? More like just about everyone.

      Sarcasm is implied unless indicated otherwise.

    17. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by jamesh · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is limited intake alone.

      The research i've read says that you grow additional fat cells when your intake exceeds your expenditure, and your fat cells empty when your expenditure exceeds your intake. Empty fat cells scream at your brain to eat to fill them up again, making it easy to lose a bit of weight but difficult to keep it off. The article I read wasn't clear on how long empty fat cells stay empty before they are eliminated, but i don't think it was particularly fast.

      I'm not sure if the article (can't find it anymore) was quackery or actually backed by proper research but it seemed a reasonable explanation for why surgery (cutting out fat from the body) becomes the only option for really obese people. Obviously if they had the self control to lose weight they probably wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

      Stomach stapling would reduce the ability to eat but leave the person in the hell of wanting to eat without being able to. This new invention might be a better solution, although I think that the act of eating primes the body for the nutrients about to be delivered, and messing with that (eg removing the foot before it hits the intestines) might not be a particularly good long term solution...

    18. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by pev · · Score: 4, Informative

      People go in cycles of bulimia and anorexia

      Not true. I've had bulimia for many years and not told anyone about it. I'm overweight by about 15Kg and tubby but not your typical fatty. I've certainly never had anorexia or even been close.

      Yes I know it's ironic, "Hi internet." The geek psyche is weird isn't it? It seems less concerning to me to disclose publicly what I guess is a fucked medical problem in a public forum than it is to let someone make an incorrect comment on slashdot. I think XKCD nailed it with : http://xkcd.com/386/

    19. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by dargaud · · Score: 4, Funny

      While Kamen is at it, he should invent a collar that measures how much food goes though your throat and chokes you after a certain amount. We already have electric collars to keep dogs from wandering off a property, so why not an electric collar to keep the obese from ruining social security ?

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    20. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by SpzToid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In my experience, electric dog collars don't work with truly big, mean, motivated dogs. The big dogs just sit on the periphery taking in the tolerable threshold of pain, all the time going grrrrr, grrrrr, grrrr, until the batteries in the collar fail and the big dogs are then free to chase and maul unimpeded.

      This is kind of the thing isn't it?

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    21. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Personally, I suffer from eating too much food and not wanting to move very much.

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    22. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by Larryish · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Unpuked vomit"?

      Dude, gross!

      Your blurb totally made me lose my appetite... for my 7th bowl of corn flakes.

    23. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by fractoid · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, the body doesn't NEED calories. It WANTS them because we've evolved to fatten up when food is plentiful so that we don't starve when food is scarce. The nasty side effect is that when food is always plentiful, and we don't have the discipline to consciously manage our energy intake to sustain a healthy weight, then we blimp up.
      Agreed, though, that people are still going to feel hungry after eating an entire McDonalds and then barfing it up again.

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    24. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by AwesomeMcgee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just a note, my sister in law eats less than me and is far more active, but was extremely overweight (she was obese since childhood) so doctors finally decided she needed a gastric bypass.

      I presume that's what you're talking about when you refer to the surgically altering yourself so you can gorge. I have since learned some interesting things, for instance: she can't more than 3oz of anything at a time for the rest of her life. This includes water so she gets 3oz of sustenance every 3 or 4 hours (I don't remember the time period) to the point that she has been suffering migraines from dehydration because the small amount she's intaking is simply not allowing for enough water and food, if she has more water rather than food she finds herself feeling very weak from malnourishment (the doctors tell her both the dehydration and weakness are completely common as her body adjusts).

      Just sharing this because from what I've learned, it turns out this surgery doesn't allow one to just gorge themselves and is anything but an easy weight loss solution, effective but definitely not easy. Plus she had to diet even more and exercise for 6 or 9 months leading up to the surgery before they would even do it, where the result is a permanent diet for the rest of her life. It'll be worth it for her and her family to have her healthier but as I said, this is no miracle cure with no consequences.

    25. Re:Isn't this just bulimia? by Rhacman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The slogan "willpower is not enough" needs to go. Willpower is not enough to safely stop a speeding train or divert a tornado. Willpower _is_ enough to put down a fork. Whether a person presently has enough willpower to do so is another question but of the many challenges in life that fundamentally cannot be met by willpower alone, dieting is not one of them.

      If we must make a machine or a pill to solve the problem of obesity then make a pill to increase willpower (or perhaps a magic ring? jk). Even without pills or magic, willpower can be improved upon. I argue that we rephrase the discussion: Willpower is enough to solve this problem, how can we each obtain the willpower to overcome it?

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  2. Name: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    BULI - O-MATIC

  3. Did You Think, Maybe... by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just not eat all those cheeseburgers in the first place? Hah! Crazy talk, I know!

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    1. Re:Did You Think, Maybe... by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Informative
      When you are in 'starvation mode', your body saves every calorie it gets so that it can be burned later. This is an evolutionay trait from when humans went for long periods between meals. You might not get to chase down and successfully kill another deer for months.

      When your body has consistent meals for about thirty days or so, your body 'learns' that it is now 'okay' to begin burning extra calories again.

    2. Re:Did You Think, Maybe... by NIK282000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There are many reasons for people to be fat but the ONLY mechanism is cramming your face with calories. Regardless of glands, mental health or family history you body cant just pull mass out of fat air, it needs to be fed. An intelligent diet and exercise are the cheapest and best solution to America's weight problem. Unless the person is not in charge of their own diet then there is no one to blame for their 300lb ass but themselves.

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    3. Re:Did You Think, Maybe... by countach · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes exactly. People use this "starvation mode" thing as an excuse. When I'm having trouble losing weight, I go back to first principles: If I don't put calories into my body, I will lose weight. Works every time.

    4. Re:Did You Think, Maybe... by RedK · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh please, the body is not some kind of magic entity that can ignore the laws of physics. Your body needs energy to function and the calories you consume are that energy. Your metabolism can slow down to some extent, but it's not as drastic as you say. "Starvation mode" is simply what the people who binge in secret tell you. Adjust your caloric intake to under or just at your base metabolism and you will lose weight, your body won't magically start running on hopes and dreams while it stores calories.

      The opposite is true, your body doesn't "burn the extra calories" either, it stores them. That's how you gain weight. The plain fact is, the only way to lose weight is to consume less calories than you burn. No magic hocus pocus, no "starvation mode", no nothing. The more you consume, the more you need to burn. And aside from a few big name athletes, exercise will burn less than your base metabolism anyhow (my base metabolism is at about 1700-1750 calories/day last time I had it measured).

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  4. revolutionary! by terec · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is going to revolutionize nutrition and eating, just like the Ginger/Segway has revolutionized transportation in our cities.

    1. Re:revolutionary! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      How very shallow. How old are you? 16?

      Coming from the guy whose username is 'Frosty Piss', priceless!

  5. Broccoli? Really? by GenieGenieGenie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why on earth would you want to suck out the broccoli? This gadget needs a fiberscopic camera that will allow you to view the semi-digested morsels and suck out the ones you don't want to keep.

  6. Re:Immaculate bulimia by retroworks · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There should be some way to preserve and reuse the pumpings, perhaps compost or soylent green or something.

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    ... It's made of what eventually would have been people!

  8. My Reaction by jIyajbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Eeewww.

    Seriously, EEEWWW.

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  9. Hard To Prepare Foods = The Win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Several studies have show obese people prefer easily accessible food.

    Stock up on hard-to-prepare food: eggs, flour, potatoes, etc.

    These foods also happen to be inexpensive. And cuts down on all types of "impulse eating" as you ask yourself "Do I really want to spend 15 minutes on a snack or can I wait?" Of course, this practical advice doesn't make a guy on TV any money and doesn't make a mega-corp any money and doesn't sell books on a talk show ...

    1. Re:Hard To Prepare Foods = The Win by guttentag · · Score: 4, Funny

      i love that guy, he's all about good tastes and how just fucking learning to cook can give your mouth a better time than jamming it full of lard

      That's not comforting coming from someone with the username "kiddygrinder." In fact, please never comment on culinary matters again.

  10. Re:Reminds me of food waste statistics by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "There are nearly a billion malnourished people in the world, but all of them could be lifted out of hunger with less than a quarter of the food wasted in Europe and North America"

    No, they couldn't, not unless that food could be transported to them and distributed before it became inedible. In countries with good infrastructure, that's not a problem, but those billion malnourished generally don't live in a place with good air freight service, well-maintained highways, and refrigerated trucking.

    Any solution to global poverty is going to have to largely rely on bootstrapping local production. Despite importing a lot of food, most western nations export a whole lot more - they have sufficient capacity to feed themselves, and trade for variety/seasonality. Getting developing nations to the point of self sufficiency is key - anything else leaves them dependant on the developed world, which will screw them over when a drought/famine/whatever hits, and we have less excess to give.

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  11. why are people driven to eat too much? by bzipitidoo · · Score: 5, Informative

    A pithy answer like "Eat less and exercise" obviously doesn't cut it. That's like the joke about how to put a giraffe in a refrigerator. You open the refrigerator, put the giraffe in, and close the door.

    Some findings and facts that have received some publicity lately:

    1. Gut microbes adapt to the food you eat, so that simple calorie counting is not accurate. Fat people can gain weight on less food, because their gut microbes are more efficient.
    2. Sleep deprivation is another cause of weight gain.
    3. Chemicals such as Bisphenol A mimic hormones. Many other plastics are also problematic. They get into our bodies because we use them for food containers and linings. Once in the body, they screw with our metabolism. One common effect is weight gain.
    4. The food industry's first priority is not our health, it's their bottom line. Most of us are also suckers for this, often measuring the value of food solely by price. It would be expecting too much to hope that the cheapest food is reasonably healthy, and of course it isn't. Breakthroughs that extend the shelf life of fresh food cheaply would be huge.

    There are a bunch of other lifestyle factors that can cause weight problems: too much sitting, pollution, artificial lighting, stress, and disease. The obesity epidemic is not going to be solved with a "Just Say No" campaign to cheeseburgers.

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    1. Re:why are people driven to eat too much? by lxs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm reading a lot of excuses in your post. It's gut bacteria it's pollution, it's Big Corn, it's stress. I'm not reading anything about taking personal responsibility. Losing weight means running a calorie deficit. This will make you feel bad. The only way to get though that is to get off the notion that you should feel good all the time and volutarily put yourself in a situation where you're hungry and feeling bad. that feeling will pass in a couple of weeks and it will strengthen your willpower.

    2. Re:why are people driven to eat too much? by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It seems to me a general truth that people who focus so much on "personal responsibility" and "willpower" are people who are much less interested in solving problems, and much more interested in making themselves feel superior by way of their own good fortune. The line your advocating is equivalent to "Just say no to drugs" or abstinence-only sex education. You're burying your head in the sand.

      It's not like people who are thin and in good shape aren't generally walking around hungry, feeling bad. People who are thin and healthy aren't starving themselves, or at least they shouldn't be. If you're walking around hungry and feeling bad, you're doing it wrong.

      And aside from the list of factors that bzipitidoo gave, your talk about willpower ignored a pretty important factor: the phenomenon of "willpower" is a biological activity that has its limits. There have been a few studies that suggest that your decision-making process and ability to exercise self-control is dependent on blood sugar levels, which creates a nice little catch-22 for dieters. You don't eat, your blood sugar drops, your self-control weakens. I good way to reinforce your self-control is to have a snack to boost your blood sugar levels, but then you'd be breaking your diet.

      Anyway, it's not about making excuses. It's about understanding the nature of the problem. I'm skinny, but it's not a function of discipline, self-control, or moral superiority. I eat whatever I want, as much as I want, and somehow I'm still skinny. Lucky me. I don't go around trying to pretend I'm some kind of hero, and I don't belittle people who are less lucky, who want to understand why.

  12. Re:Or you could just eat less by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Simple way to lose weight: drink 1-2 glasses of water (16oz+) BEFORE you eat anything. Start all meals by chugging a bunch of water and you will feel fuller sooner and not desire to eat as much. Of course, this doesn't address the nutritional value of your diet, but if you are seriously over weight and need to lose some, this will probably work if you stick to it.

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  13. Re:Reminds me of food waste statistics by Burz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but those billion malnourished generally don't live in a place with good air freight service, well-maintained highways, and refrigerated trucking.

    Agreed, but many of those places have transportation (where it exists) that is configured to remove produce and resources onto boats headed for regions like Europe, North America and increasingly China. As you pointed out, that can also work in reverse WRT food... but I don't believe that is the case for all materials in general.

    As I see it, any country that is not heavily bought-up by globalist Wall St. banks and aligned with NATO would inevitably appear as a threat to the West if they reconfigured their infrastructure to be self-sufficient and more self-serving. Self-sufficiency for an emerging region would necessarily have to stonewall the influences of the global banking system, because the system has a record of opportunistically creating crises which put the land and resources of so many developing countries on sale to Western corporations at fire sale prices. When the financial empire convulses because of mismanagement at its center, its the fringes that are most quickly abandoned because of a lack of familiarity or personal involvement by wealthy investors-- then they are lined up for 'austerity' programs which have much more to do with rent seeking by foreign actors than with self-sufficiency.

  14. Re:The Roman Way by Intropy · · Score: 3, Funny

    He said Roman, not Greek.

  15. Couldn't people just eat less? by davesag · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This looks to me to be the single most disgusting invention I've ever seen. Surely it's easier to just eat smaller meals rather than gorge, then pump partially digested food out through a pipe through your gut. I guess it tops the Segway as stupidest invention ever.

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  16. But... by TeknoHog · · Score: 3, Funny

    My first name is Dieter, you insensitive clod!

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  17. I'm tempted to agree... by Slartibartfast · · Score: 3, Informative

    Except, well... while I do own a Segway -- employees get what comes to a 50% discount, and in November of '08, it really, really looked like they were about to go belly-up; figured I'd get one while I still could -- I admit that the bike argument is a decent one. I really do enjoy riding Segways (or "PT's" -- personal transporters -- since Segway(tm) refers to the company, and not their product), but there are many drawbacks. Personally, I think they are freaking ideal for sightseeing. The best thing ever. As someone who'd ridden them for years, it wasn't until I'd gone on a sightseeing trip that I realized how awesome they can be, when used for their intended niche. Outside of that niche? Maybe not so much...

    Oh. And Dean likely didn't "invent" the pump, no more than he "invented" the Segway. (The insulin pump is all his, though.) What Dean truly excels at is putting a bunch of relatively inexpensive engineers in a big mill building, and then promoting himself on what they produce.