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Valve Starts Promoting Steam For Linux To Windows Users

An anonymous reader writes "Steam is now being used by thousands of gamers running a Linux OS, and Valve has got to the point where they are happy to start urging Windows users to make the switch. Proof of that comes from a 'Join the Beta' promotion on the homepage of Steam suggesting you try Steam for Linux. There's even a download link to get Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, which removes yet another barrier to entry. With Gabe Newell's clear hatred of Windows 8, this shouldn't be a surprising move. We aren't going to see another version of Windows appear for a few years, so in Valve's eyes pushing Linux to gamers makes a lot of sense."

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  1. annual windows by genericmk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is worth pointing out that Microsoft has promised a more regular windows release so the comment of a few years wait for next Windows isn't correct. (or maybe not, maybe Microsoft will not deliver on its "promise").

    1. Re:annual windows by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be fair Valve is the one who was first to promise new versions of their flagship product in shorter periods of time and look what happened! :)

    2. Re:annual windows by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not to mention until they find a way to fix the BIG PROBLEM which is a good 90%+ of the games are built around DirectX and therefor won't run on Linux? You can give it up. I mean who wants Steam on Linux when it has less selection than the already piss poor Steam for Mac?

      Sure they could try to incorporate Wine into Steam but I wouldn't be surprised if Valve ends up with a couple of years worth of lawsuits from MSFT which rightly or wrongly most likely MSFT WILL WIN since most of the Wine development is done in Europe where the laws on reverse engineering are VERY lax compared to ours. In the USA you had better use clean room procedures with strict separation between the one looking at the code to be reverse engineered and the guy writing the replacement.

      So I'm sorry but I just don't see how this is gonna get any traction. Not only will you not find Linux being sold on any machines in any B&M stores but when all the hottest games use a framework that you don't have and won't run without serious hoop jumping? Hell the whole point of Steam is its a "push button and get game" service and if the only way you can run the majority of games is to deal with a couple of pages of CLI crap and a LOT of finger crossing because most of the games run DirectX I don't see many people putting up with it.

      I still think this is all smoke and mirrors though, the REAL reason for Steam on Linux is Valve's Steambox which will run a GPL V2 only Linux (so they can use the hardware DRM that consoles require) and they are just letting the community beta test the software before it goes into production. Makes sense, if the console is a hit they can talk more devs into porting to OpenGL on Steambox and if they put out a console it needs to be solid on the software front, hence the beta testing. I just don't see how Steam on Linux could be the end goal, not with so many show stopping problems.

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  2. Compatibility by Doodlesmcpooh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As soon as the games I already own and play work on Linux I will switch in a heartbeat.

    1. Re:Compatibility by DeathFromSomewhere · · Score: 4, Funny

      Clearly tuxracer is all the thrill he can handle.

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  3. Re:Why? by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, for one, if you build your own PC's and don't want to pirate software, then Linux is free. Saving the cost of an OS is big for me. You also have a system that is FAR less likely to be affected by malware.

    Also, once you get good on Linux the power of having a Unix command line available really becomes a boon. It took me a good year to 18 months of primary use on Linux, but at this point I truly feel more comfortable and efficient in Linux than in Windows. I use a 2nd computer on a KVM switch that runs Windows for playing games, but that's literally the only thing I do on that system - I genuinely dislike using Windows beyond that. If the games were available for Linux then I'd have little reason to keep a Windows machine/install at all.

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  4. Re:Lunux desktop by cod3r_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hopefully a new era of game dev is upon us. This is not only great for linux, but great for people like myself who only use windows for games. Hopefully the video card makers will beef up their effort writing drivers and software for compatibility.

  5. Re:Why? by cduffy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe, maybe not.

    Windows is still trying to be backwards-compatible with an API and end-user experience that was designed around single-user systems, whereas the UNIXy legacy is from large university systems where users were expected to be hostile (and, frequently, were).

    Security on Windows has been getting a lot better over the last decade and a half, and it's going to continue to get better as Microsoft stops supporting legacy APIs and continues to modify workflows to adjust user expectations, but I'm still not much inclined to accept the assertion that there's no remaining difference that isn't directly and exclusively caused by the delta in marketshare.

  6. Re:Call me a skeptic here.... by Microlith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But I really can't see this being a successful venture.

    Why not? Game developers can't be hurt by being given a way to stay independent of any one company. Currently they can play the console vendors off each other, even if the platforms are vendor controlled. On the PC, they've never had anyone but Microsoft.

    Why would people bother with this when they can just play practically all of (if not actually all of) the same games on the windows PC that they already have?

    Because I want a choice other than "Microsoft or no games at all." I'm not alone, apparently.

  7. Yes, Yes and Yes. by tuppe666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You may not be alone... but do you seriously think that there are actually enough people like you to make this a successful venture?

    ...because the existing demographic(sic) has nothing to do with the future of computing. Android is set to overtake Windows this year as the dominant OS. Right now coding a Windows[Direct X] only game shuts out half of your potential audience, and Windows market share is set to decline further. The future is cross platform and steam is already there? The fact that one market is smaller than another is irrelevant when portability is not an afterthought...if it is Windows is likely to lose out not Linux.

  8. Re:Why? by aztracker1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Really!?! I've had plenty of linux systems break when using the built in update tools... At least some of the software I was using... and, ironically enough, it's happened to me far more than my osx or windows systems. As for preserving configs, for a while the default user config locations changed from ~/.appname (file) to ~/appname/file to ~/.config/appname/ and different apps doing it differently.. not *that* easy. There are a *LOT* of reasons to choose Linux over windows what you are talking about isn't it.

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  9. Re:Lunux desktop by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hopefully a new era of game dev is upon us. This is not only great for linux, but great for people like myself who only use windows for games. Hopefully the video card makers will beef up their effort writing drivers and software for compatibility.

    The resurgence of PC gaming started a couple of years ago and has only been picking up steam (see what I did there?). 2012 brought us some PC-centric games that would have been unthinkable just a few years ago, when we believed PC gaming was dying.

    The moves Valve is making will only be wind at the back of PC gaming, and by the time the ultra-expensive next gen consoles come out, the landscape is going to look plenty different.

    The future of gaming is not handheld. It's not console and it's not behind a walled garden. From AAA to the rawest indie title, PC gaming's future has not looked this bright in a long time.

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  10. My experience on ubuntu 12.04 by period3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    go to www.steampowered.com in firefox.
    click 'install steam'.
    click 'install steam now'
    choose 'open with' from the firefox popup

    Error: Cannot install 'libcurl3-gnutls:i386'.

    Typical linux. Good luck to Valve - they'll need it.

    1. Re:My experience on ubuntu 12.04 by period3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The solution turned out to be quite intuitive:

      sudo dpkg -r --force-all librtmp0
      sudo apt-get install librtmp0
      sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch

      Don't I feel silly... /sarcasm

  11. Re:Why? by jnork · · Score: 4, Funny

    More than one mouse button confuses me. That's why I only use Mac.

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  12. Re:Why? by Chryana · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I see that you are being sincere here, so I won't make another sarcastic reply. I just think that stronger arguments than that will be needed to convince people to switch over. The command line is a non starter for most people who have no special interest in information technologies. As for the cost of the OS, it is rather immaterial right now, because few people buy it at retail, so they never see the bill. Finally, I think the gaming crowd is not the best one to cater to for an alternate OS, because
    1. there are not that many games on Linux;
    2. the small community makes it difficult to get support when it doesn't work, for instance sound issues are pretty frequent, at least in my experience;
    3. I have seen some performance issues, but that was a few years ago and the situation may have improved;
    4. Gaming rigs can be expensive, so again, OS price is less of a factor.

    I would expand on these points, but I have to go now. Please accept my apologies, for I will not be able to answer any reply you make to this post in less than several hours, perhaps even until tomorrow.

  13. Re:I'd like to get on this team action. by RzTen1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a direct link to the install package: http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb