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UK Anonymous Hacktivists Get Jail Time

twoheadedboy writes "Two members of the Anonymous hacking collective have been handed a total of 25 months in prison. Christopher Weatherhead, a 22-year-old who went under the pseudonym Nerdo, received the most severe punishment — 18 months in prison. Another member, Ashley Rhodes, was handed seven months, whilst Peter Gibson was given a six-month suspended sentence. They were convicted for hitting a variety of websites, including those belonging to PayPal and MasterCard."

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  1. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Stupid Script kiddies

  2. I've seen this movie! by localman57 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Peter Gibson was given a six-month suspended sentence.

    He has lived a trite and meaningless life. Oh, wait. No. That's Gibbons, not Gibson.

    1. Re:I've seen this movie! by localman57 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Only if he violates probation and has to serve his sentence. BTW, over there they call it National-Pound-Me-In-Me-Bum-Jail.

    2. Re:I've seen this movie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No, we don't.

      You can keep prison-rape as a predominantly US phenomenon.

      I do have a question on the subject...

      Rape is terrible, we all know it's a horrible crime. Why when someone convicted of a crime, especially non-violent, is it suddenly a hilarious prospect?

    3. Re:I've seen this movie! by HaZardman27 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because it serves to keeping the American population docile about our terrible justice system. If you think about the (far too many) inmates in prison as people who may be serving time unjustly or at least disproportionately to their crimes, you might get upset and expect change. If you think of them as animals who are getting raped as a form of penance to society, then you can blissfully go back to living in ignorance.

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    4. Re:I've seen this movie! by Sabriel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dark humour can act as a coping mechanism. We can't, or don't want to, deal with the true awfulness of something, so we make fun of it.

    5. Re:I've seen this movie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Rape is terrible, we all know it's a horrible crime. Why when someone convicted of a crime, especially non-violent, is it suddenly a hilarious prospect?

      Victorian insensibility has led to Americans giggling like schoolgirls if someone says penis.

      Now, I'm sure woman-on-woman rape happens in our pathetic prison system, but for the most part, we're pretty much talking about male-on-male rape.

      Buttsex.

      TEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE.

      *sigh*

    6. Re:I've seen this movie! by rich_hudds · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Completely agree.

      The USA is possibly the only country in the world where more men are raped than women.

      The threat of rape helps force innocent people to take a plea bargain. Plea bargaining being another outrage that the USA blindly accepts but which most civilised countries severely limit.

  3. Wow, pretty severe by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have zero sympathy for this kind of hacker, but that's a lot of time for a DDOS that apparently they didn't even execute if I read the charges right.

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    1. Re:Wow, pretty severe by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I believe the primary difference in the Mastercard and PayPal DDOS attacks is that they weren't just tryng to take down a website, but rather they attacked the domains that provided APIs to process payments. They were literally trying to disrupt business transactions.

      They were not successful in fully bringing down either.

      I also object to calling any criminal hacking "hacktivism". A legal protest can be more effective. They didn't advance their beliefs or causes, though they did break the law.

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    2. Re:Wow, pretty severe by Mitreya · · Score: 2

      I have zero sympathy for this kind of hacker, but that's a lot of time for a DDOS that apparently they didn't even execute

      It is just a lesson that PayPal and others have purchased (lobbied) from our government.

      These hackers should have gone into money laundering (e.g. HSBC - Too Big to Indict) instead.

  4. Re:So what is so great about Anonymous? by Korruptionen · · Score: 2

    My personal take is that this is a dual part answer. Anonymous is as awesome as it is terrible. The idea of anonymous is what I think I would champion most.

    There are some good things done by the faceless group... and there are stupid childish things done by the faceless group.. neither the same part of the whole, but still apart of the group.

    From this we see community, and from internet community, we see weirdos. Just depends on how deep you're wanting to look.

  5. Combined Total? by rjstanford · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When multiple people are convicted of different things, listing their punishment as a "total" serves purely to make the story more lurid and, thus, to make whatever possibly reasonable point the author intended seem more likely to be incorrect. "Two of the three people credited with hacking financial networks received jail sentences, the longest for 18 months" would still be silly wording but at least not a blatent attempt to exaggerate.

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  6. Re:Yeah Right by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's fairly common for these kinds of nonsense figures to include: 1) the cost of doing stuff they would've needed to do anyway, like fix misconfigurations or patch security holes; and 2) salaries for regular staff who would've been paid the salary either way, like a sysadmin who had to take some time away from posting on Slashdot to respond to the incident.

  7. Re:So what is so great about Anonymous? by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is unfortunately flawed thinking.

    The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend or a good guy. Just because someone like Assange doesn't like the US government, or banks or whoever else you hate, doesn't make him a saint. Just because Anonymous decided to support WikiLeaks didn't make them saints either.

    They attacked PBS for crying out loud, just because PBS aired a documentary that tried to present both sides of the Assange debate.

    That isn't supporting any ideal of transparency. That is acting childish.

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  8. Re:Yeah Right by GumphMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The logic of ambit claims will goes like this (figures are examples only): the most revenue (not profit) we have ever taken in an hour is 1.5M, we were off-the-air for 2 hours (rounded up of course), therefore we 'lost' 3M. For that 2 hours our company-wide expenditure was 0.5M which was not bringing in money and therefore a 'loss'. Total 3.5M 'lost'. It, of course, completely ignores the massive spike in payments during the few hours after their system came back as the vast majority of payments that could not be completed in the outage were completed later anyway (that spike may even have driven the peak revenue figure used above). It also ignores the average global revenue for PayPal (USD1.54 billion Q4 2012 https://www.paypal-media.com/about) of about GBP 450,000/hr, the fact the majority of expense would have been incurred anyway and is not additional etc. etc. Usually ambit claims are made with the intent to negotiate down to something sane, but negotiation in criminal matters is something only corporations get to do.

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  9. Re:The reason behind the attacks by aphelion_rock · · Score: 2

    They attacked because they stopped giving Assange his money. Now who is the bad guy here?

    The world desperately needs a non-US based credit card so this sort of miss-guided government action doesn't happen again.

  10. Hitler served less time for an attempted coup!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is screwed up. Even the worst dictators in history have served less time. In 1923 Hitler attempted a coup with something like 600 men. He served just 9 months in jail. This was before coming to power legally (though what came later was contrary to the law of the land from my understanding of what happened). You would think threatening a countries leaders would get you more time than some minor protesting. Yes- this is protesting. It might be criminal although it is no worse than blocking traffic.

  11. Re:So what is so great about Anonymous? by Enderandrew · · Score: 2

    PBS Frontline Documentaries are some of the most respected in the world. Making silly assumptions without having any knowledge isn't supporting transparency either.

    Trying to block someone from free speech (especially truthful speech) out of fear is the exact polar opposite of what Assange and Wikileaks supposedly stand for. But that is exactly what Anonymous was doing in going after PBS.

    Terrorizing people into not speaking the truth is not something that should be celebrated or endorsed.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/wikileaks/interviews/julian-assange.html

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