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North Korea's Prison Camps Are Now On Google Maps
pigrabbitbear writes "It's been nearly a decade since Shin Dong-hyuk, an ex-prisoner of North Korea's Camp 14, crawled over the electrocuted body of a friend lying dead on a fence, a boundary he was born inside of and lived within for 23 years. He made his way across the Chinese border on foot and was granted political asylum and citizenship in Seoul. Now, thanks to updated Google maps of the region, you can actually (if somewhat loosely) retrace the steps of his incredible escape. Through its Map Maker program, which crowdsources cartographic info, Google has published finer details of some North Korean roads. More notably, it has included shaded-in locations of the country's notorious prison camps. The data has flowed in from a few different sources, including defected North Korean expats now living in Seoul. Geographically-minded tourists and visitors of North Korea have weighed in, and historic map data from pre-partitioned Korea into has also been helpful. (Google maintains that the recent trip to Pyongyang by CEO Eric Schmidt had nothing to do with this project.)"
This has been on the iOS platforms since the last update. I asked Siri for riving direction to Sam's Hamburger shack and ended up in a NK concentration camp. Kinda hard to explain to Lil Un, but after a few months I was let go.
I mean I always read about westerners trying to sneak into the country
Must be the awesome there
If you look at OpenStreetMap's maps of North Korea in comparison to Google, you see that the OSM maps are of much higher quality, as well as being Free (unlike Google MapMaker):
http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnik&mt1=googlemap&lon=125.7375&lat=39.03865&zoom=12
(Google maintains that the recent trip to Pyongyang by CEO Eric Schmidt had nothing to do with this project.)"
North Korea maintains that this project has nothing to do with their ongoing development of nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles that can reach Mountain View, CA.
Seems to be a pretty cool resort
http://goo.gl/maps/bVK4C
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms4NIB6xroc
The FEMA death camps that have been set up to imprison free and liberated Americans as Obama's Atheistic Muslim Communist Fascism is implemented in this country.
The abortion-mill brothels will also not be shown. Because Google is in it on it, as is NASA, SpaceX, and Boeing. It's all part of the conspiracy with the Reverse Vampires and Doctor Evil.
When NK falls and the full extent to which its people have been oppressed is revealed, the entire civilized world will hang its head in shame over how long this abomination has been allowed to exist.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Why were they not on before? I was just looking at NK last weak and found in no time the buildings where NK and SK face each other ! And I couldent find that place after looking for 30 min a year ago !
They face each other with guard towers all along their border. There is no ONE place.
You were probably looking for the famous place where peace talks were/are held. see: http://goo.gl/maps/KTRtC
However, if you look along the border there are dozens of places where there are military establishments on either side
of the DMZ. Many of these face each other. They are usually on every high hill,
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I followed the links through to a Guardian review of the book about Shin, only to find "This content has been removed as our copyright has expired." WTF?
Fortunately, the Wayback Machine is a bit more sane and has the full story: http://web.archive.org/web/20120320021739/http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/16/escape-north-korea-prison-camp
Well, he couldn't very well publicize this before his visit could he. Presumably he wanted to come back some time soon.
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and sold it for X5 the cost of taking out with you getting $0 out of it.
This prison camp is offensive to every civilized person, a place of unbelievable hardship and inhumanity. On the plus side, it has a very small carbon footprint and pretty much everything is recycled.
On the other hand, the reviews look like written by green Apple hipsters.
Ezekiel 23:20
The maps for China don't actually align to the satellite image? The maps are reasonably accurate, but they're off by a few miles or so, it looks like. But then the border lines up with the satellite image, and the maps for North Korea, right across the border, line up perfectly with the satellite image. Is it just me? Am I seeing things?
Here's a portion of the border which demonstrates the problem: http://goo.gl/maps/ObMDJ
It's well and widely known the atrocities that go on there. From reports, things that make saddams rape rooms look like candyland. Of course like the shameful stupid nations we are, we continue to further isolate and punish the people of NK via sanctions and cock waving with its leaders. They could have ended hostilities long ago by trying to catch bees with honey instead of pouring vinegar on them and watching the people of NK pay the price. Knock out the leadership once and for all or come to the table and play nice. It's so shameful that the worlds answer has been "shame on you, no bags of rice for the poor this week" in response to decades of human rights abuses.
If you have netflix, I'd recommend Kimjongilia. It covers the stories of defectors, including Shin. Very well done.
The civilized world has been progressively removed from reality and will be too busy chatting on Facebook, worried about latest stock market fluctuations, and getting semi-affordable gas at the pump.
Typical response: "NK free? Yay! What movie u goin 2 see?"
South Korea accepts North Koreans. I don’t know all of the technically details but both Koreas subscribe that there is only one Korea which is temporarily split due to civil war. Think back to East / West Germany. Similar setup.
They have programs in place to help integrate them into society.- financial assistance, finding any relatives on the other side, cultural and job training, etc.
How come so called "activists" such as anonymous or wiki-leaks don't target North Korea?
What do you target? You have a paranoid leadership who cuts off access to the outside world coupled with one of the tightest set of economic sanctions. Cut off from within and without.
IIRC, (posted on Slashdot about 2 years ago?) even their official country level domain hosting was being done in Spain.
How come so called "activists" such as anonymous or wiki-leaks don't target [sic] North Korea?
http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:North_Korea
1) There is no god to give out rights. Rights are discussed and agreed upon amongst people.
2) The origin of North Korea wasn't the lack of people standing up for their rights. The origin was the partitioning of the country into to and the subsequent remote playing out of the cold war between the then world superpowers of The USSR and the USA.
It has absolutely nothing to do with your assumed gun rights. Change the tune.
-2, Stupid (-1 redundant + -1 overrated)
Already done, and even the first one to come up with the idea realised how fucking silly it was.
The US may not be perfect, but you get to eat, people are allowed to speak and move more or less freely, and most of them aren't locked up in camps.
And I can attest personally, the US will actually let you leave if you want.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
When the US was backing Germany, US volunteers went to the UK to fight on the right side. Men and women who put their lives on the line for what they believed in.
You believe in something? Then put your life on the line. Ah, thought so, life is a bit to comfortable sitting behind a computer spouting morality. Trust me, I know. It is easy to ignore the horrors of the world if they aren't happening to you.
We will all find different excuses for it "one man can't change anything" "I have no power" "the US is not the worlds police man" "China is backing them". But it all just means "don't rock my boat".
The simple fact is that NK could be liberated in a week IF the world wanted to. China is NOT going to risk global war over it if the US and the west flexed its muscle. Notions that it might not like the US on its border are beyond silly, the US doesn't have the resources to fight China on its own turf and with US fleets and international presence, it already HAS plenty of power close to China anyway.
But the fact is also that it would be a brutal fight with little financial reward. No oil. Now I am not saying the west is only interested in oil but liberating NK would be a gigantic undertaking which requires lots of boats being rocked and while the world will PROBABLY make sure none of the boats tipped over, why bother when you can just sit there and ignore it?
This is hardly the first time the world has managed to look the other way. Not even the other way, a zebra will watch an other zebra struggle and die at the hands of a lion and think itself lucky that today the Lion has been fed. The truth is that the lions would be just a dirty smear on the savannah if the herbivores put in the tiniest amount of effort (Zebra's kicks, buffalo charges, hippo bites, elephant trunk slaps have ALL killed Lions with ease) but it is easier not to.
Right now, in your city, someone is sleeping on the street. You can put them in a shelter for less then the price of a game. Are you getting out of your chair yet? No? Me neither. I know I am a moral vacuum, do you? Don't argue, there is nobody here who can't afford to help a homeless person on Slashdot. But most don't. There are no excuses.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
I feel the summary is missing a step. The fellow escape across the border to China and was granted citizenship in Seoul? Is there a step missing where he transfers to South Korea, or did the author get the destination country wrong?
he spent a lot of time wandering around china. remember he didn't know that he could get to s-korea.. or that it would be worthwhile. then got to some embassy and through that to s-korea eventually.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
The US may not be perfect, but you get to eat, people are allowed to speak and move more or less freely, and most of them aren't locked up in camps.
If you count prisons as 'camps' then more people (per capita) are locked up in the US than in any other country in the world (including China, North Korea or any other totalitarian state you care to name).
When you think about it, they're exactly the sort of people who you really don't want to have guns.
Completely ignoring the US political staff and other representatives of the US tech sector that took part in the visit, of course.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
Perhaps because NK has no internet save for a few places that are highly controlled?
This.
I don't know about other countries, but here in Brazil prisioners have a terrible treatment - and we're not a totalitarian state, we're just nuts who think criminals don't deserve anything.
The difference is that in N. Korea the officers torture, kill and do other terrible things. Here (and in many other countries), the officers don't do anything. The prisioners itself do all the atrocities between themselves. We just dump them in dozens in places where should be only 2 or 3.
But he only knows one tune...
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The truth is, the rights of the people in Korea were gone long before the Soviet occupation of the north - Japan ruled Korea with an iron fist for 75 years before that, and even annexed the peninsula. Human rights were hardly a concern and they were known to torture and imprison anyone that showed any sign of dissent and forced men to do forced labor and woment into prostitution. In a way, Japan created North Korea more than the USSR ever could - all the Soviets really did was prop up the dictatorship and the Koreans took over from there with the only way of life they knew - repression.
Not even a good straw man. Also, did it dawn you you that perhaps he was referring to the wording in the US Constitution and not paying homage to any theology? That's how I read it, and I didn't have to invent words not mentioned to get my interpretation.
Fucking government shills, I'm sure you get paid well to take it up the ass.. but damn it's not worth it. They don't care when you are dying of aids man, just look around!
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
If you count prisons as 'camps' then more people (per capita) are locked up in the US than in any other country in the world (including China, North Korea or any other totalitarian state you care to name).
True, true. But this does not contradict what I said.
(BTW, I should point out that I'm just playing advocatus diaboli here, as I left the States over a decade ago and do not ever plan to return there to live.)
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.