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NASA Says Asteroid Will Buzz Earth Closer Than Many Satellites

coondoggie writes "NASA says an asteroid about half the size of a football field will blow past Earth on Feb 15 closer than many man-made satellites. NASA added that while the asteroid, designated 2012 DA14, has no chance of striking Earth. Since regular sky surveys began in the 1990s, astronomers have never seen an object so big come so close to our planet."

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  1. Call Bruce Willis by starworks5 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Chuck norris was too busy saving us from north korea, to also blow up the asteroid heading for earth.

  2. No chance of striking Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "... has no chance of striking Earth"

    Famous last words.

    1. Re:No chance of striking Earth by beelsebob · · Score: 2

      No, they won't be famous at all if they're last.

    2. Re:No chance of striking Earth by Catmeat · · Score: 5, Insightful
      "... has no chance of striking Earth"

      Famous last words.

      Because the laws of dramatic irony obviously trump the laws of physics.

    3. Re:No chance of striking Earth by CSMoran · · Score: 2
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    4. Re:No chance of striking Earth by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course, if there were an impact, and it was in the territory of the former Soviet Union, the asteroid STILL would not be said to have struck the Earth, so much as the Earth striking the asteroid.

      I'm just saying.

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    5. Re:No chance of striking Earth by Plekto · · Score: 2

      The interesting thing is that even if it was going to hit the Earth, they would still be telling us the exact same thing most likely due to how our Governments view the need to "protect" us for our own good.

  3. And the best vantage point.. by SwampChicken · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ..to view such a spectacle would be?

    1. Re:And the best vantage point.. by michelcolman · · Score: 5, Funny

      On the actual asteroid.

    2. Re:And the best vantage point.. by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Television or the internet. They'll have great footage made by professional astronomers, along with commentaries from said astronomers. As opposed to you sitting in your garden with a pair of binos, seeing nothing at all and freezing your balls off while your wife screams at you because you're late for dinner.

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    3. Re:And the best vantage point.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ehh... I have battery power heated thermal socks I will put over my balls. They will be fine. As for the wife, if she isn't passed out drunk, she will never get her fat ass off the couch long enough to make dinner.

      Unfortunately, my binoculars are broken because the neighbor thought I was looking through the window when his wife was getting out of the shower. Of course I wasn't, I was watching the TV in their bedroom in an attempt to get away from my wife.

      But hey, I'm still interested in standing in the garden looking at nothing if you want to tell me which direction I should stare at.

    4. Re:And the best vantage point.. by plaukas+pyragely · · Score: 2

      while your mom screams at you because you're late for dinner

      Fixed that for you.

    5. Re:And the best vantage point.. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      I just reacted to the idea that a little bit of effort and freezing should result in staying in front of your TV instead.

      Buy your pre-manufactured food, watch the TV, pay your taxes. Anything else is DSM-IV coded behavior.

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    6. Re:And the best vantage point.. by Gilmoure · · Score: 2

      He married his mom?

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  4. Football field unit. by _GNU_ · · Score: 2

    Is this unit measured in 2D?

    1. Re:Football field unit. by Pieroxy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A soccer field doesn't have any size defined. It's just "between 90 and 120m" long and "between 45 and 90m" wide. So btw the smallest and biggest field, there is almost a factor of 2.7 in area. That's a bit of a margin!

    2. Re:Football field unit. by OolimPhon · · Score: 2

      Assume a spherical football field...

    3. Re:Football field unit. by CheeseTroll · · Score: 2

      But paper beats rock, so we are still doomed. Launch the giant scissors!

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  5. Re:Yeah, about that... by pv2b · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why would a change in mass change the trajectory? Granted, it was a while since I took physics, but from what I remember:

    1. The force of gravity follows F = GMm / (r^2) where M and m are the masses of the two objects in consideration. Here I will use m as the mass of the asteroid and M as the mass of any other object that is not the asteroid.

    2. F = ma.

    3. From this follows that a = (GMm / (r^2)) / m = GM / (r^2). As we can see, m (the mass of the asteroid)

    This means means that the accelleration of an object due to gravity is only affected directly by the other object's mass, not by the object's own mass. However, a more massive object *could* attract other objects with a higher accelleration than expected, thus reducing r, thus over time increasing the accelleration, changing the tracjectory of not only the asteroid but also the other object.

    Consider for a moment, however, how insignificant such an effect would be:

    First imagine an asteroid the size of a football field. Then imagine the moon. Then imagine the earth. Then imagine the sun. Now imagine the mass of an asteroid even moving the moon more than an imperceptible amount due to gravity, let alone the sun.

  6. Re:Is there a chance of it hitting a satellite? by Coisiche · · Score: 2

    I can't authoritatively state, but I suspect that the satellite distribution is more concentrated at the LEO end of the scale and much rarer at geo-stationary orbit distance. And I bet the asteroid pass is much higher than LEO.

  7. Cite the NASA story, not some parasite's blog by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Stupid Fucking Article linked doesn't even say how close the fucking asteroid will come.

    Why source a story sourced from NASA to some wanker's blog in Network World"?Presuambly this asshole just submitted it himself to get more pageviews.

    The actual NASA story is Record Setting Asteroid Flyby And it actually tells you that "On Feb. 15th an asteroid about half the size of a football field will fly past Earth only 17,200 miles above our planet's surface." (Sadly even NASA use the inane "football field" measure, but goes on to say "It measures some 50 meters wide".)

    1. Re:Cite the NASA story, not some parasite's blog by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Funny

      1% of a Standard Football Field Length.

    2. Re:Cite the NASA story, not some parasite's blog by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

      It's like a meter, but the white version.

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    3. Re:Cite the NASA story, not some parasite's blog by RoccamOccam · · Score: 2

      You know, it's that measurement that the European Football pitch is based upon: 10 yards is the radius of the centre circle, 18 yards is the specified dimension of the penalty area, etc. You're probably more used to those dimensions being called out as 9.15m and 16.5 m, respectively.

  8. Re:Yeah, about that... by They'reComingToTakeM · · Score: 2

    Correct, they used a hammer.

  9. Re:Call Bruce Lee by letherial · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001569/bio

    "He is a black belt in Tang Soo Do and Tae Kwan Do. In 1969, he earned the Triple Crown for the highest number of tournament wins, and was named Fighter of the Year by "Black Belt" magazine. By the time he was 34, Norris had established 32 karate schools and had been a champion for six years. In 1996, he became the first Westerner to be awarded an eighth-degree black belt in Tae Kwan Do"

    I am not a big fan of this guy, and i agree these Chuck Norris jokes are very annoying, however, facts are facts and clearly you are wrong about the martial arts.

  10. Re:Is there a chance of it hitting a satellite? by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, geostationary orbit is about 250,000 km in circumference, and it contains about 400 satellites at present. Assuming they're each 50m wide (which is probably an exaggeration) then the satellites, in total, cover 20km of that circumference. So if we were to assume that all the satellites are in the same plane, and that the asteroid was definitely going to come in through that plane, then the chances of the asteroid meeting one of those satellites is 0.008%.

    A back of the envelope calculation suggests you have the same odds of spinning around in a circle with your eyes shut and successfully pointing at a person standing 3km away.

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  11. Re:Yeah, about that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm fluent in Polish (my native language) and it also has an incredibly flexible syntax, possibly more so than English. In fact, word ordering is one of the ways to control emphasis in Polish.

    We know. Thats how we got Polish notation.

  12. Re:Yeah, about that... by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Informative

    The trouble is that what happened to Shoemaker Levy 9 doesn't scale down: it was ripped apart by the tidal forces of a gas giant, and those forces don't exist for a similar size of body interacting with Earth.

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  13. Re:Look on the bright side by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

    No, instead I'll finally stop feeling dejected because for over 40 years our space programs have been loosing steam, creeping along slow as molasses, when it's perfectly clear that we're still blind as bats and more defenseless than kittens when it comes to space.

    That's a heartache I feel EVERY day, not just Valentine's. Candies and shit?! Are you serious? It's 100% garaunteed WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE from one of these damned rocks (if something else doesn't get us first) if we don't do something! The dinosaurs didn't have a space program; We're just like them though, waiting around fighting over petty bullshit and waiting to die. Only we're dumber. We waste mony on fucking consumerist holidays that monetize every last free joy in life, including sex.

    If you'll excuse me, I've got a whole wealth of scientific progress to inscribe as pictograms on granite slabs to leave for the next poor fuckers who inherit this rock, or the alien anthropologists who'll no doubt be scratching their what'sits thinking: "Wait, Extincted by an Asteroid? And they had Rockets? For Hundreds of Years Prior? Even made it to space? Well, then fuck 'em, the bastards were too stupid to live."

  14. Re:Call Bruce Lee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Martial Arts is a broad term, and most people (like you) only pay attention to the "Martial" part. The Style that Chuck specializes in and teaches in his schools is focused on rigid adherence to the traditional Forms, and application of mental Discipline. They are as well-suited to an open fighting situation as disciplines classified as Fighting Styles, which is why you don't see people using pure forms in competitions like the UFC... winners often have a background from a variety of styles which is why they are called "mixed martial arts" competitions.

    Not to say that people like Chuck and Bruce Lee aren't pretty mean fighters, anybody with that much training is not going to be an easy mark. But I'd put almost anybody who fights in the large UFC competitions against a pure style fighter any day, especially if they aren't in a ring with time limits and rules.

    Having said all that, it's important to note that Chuck, Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, and other popular film fighters have to slow down most of their moves so the audience can follow the action, and what they actually do on screen are sequences and styles you wouldn't ever actually use in real life combat. Many of the "moves" they display for the camera are not actually combat moves, but rather are meditative Forms designed to build endurance, focus, and strength.

  15. universal version by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2

    People who follow a set of rules are messed up by others who don't or won't follow the same rules.

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  16. Re:Yeah, about that... by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 2

    I am a native speaker of English, and I do find the the way that sentence was constructed to be somewhat unusual, and not entirely consistent with English grammar.

    It does raise a couple of interesting questions: what, exactly, is the "size of a month"? And are months on near Earth asteroids so greatly different in size than other months?

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  17. Re:Call Bruce Lee by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think I'd classify Bruce Lee in with anyone who focus(ed) on "ridged adherence to the traditional forms". If anything he's the reason we have MMA and UFC. He did everything he could to strip away what he deemed unnecessary. I don't know what Chuck Norris and Jackie Chan are doing these days, but they both learned a lot from Bruce Lee when he was alive.

    Agreed regarding the moves that you typically see in movies. They are rarely something that you would see being used off screen. I know that they all have to slow down for movies. I've heard that Bruce Lee had to slow down due to the limitations of the film at the time. I'm sure it also had to do with his movies being shot on low budget equipment too. But if you ever saw any of his demonstrations you'd understand the guy was scary quick.

  18. Re:Call Bruce Lee by cyberchondriac · · Score: 3, Informative

    Absolutely dead-on-balls correct. Bruce Lee founded Jeet Kune Do, where the whole idea is to be fluid and able to improvise. Bruce was THE MAN. He got into street gangs in China before moving to the states, so he has some street cred; he knew what it took to fight for real.
    As someone who studied Kempo many many moons ago, I wholly agree with Bruce's outlook. What I was taught was extremely rigid, canned moves that might work if you were extremely lucky enough for an attacker to come at you in precisely the manner they trained you for, but if they deviated at all, if all you had to rely on were the moves you were taught (and you couldn't improvise on your own), you'd be toast. Though I'm not sure if this reflects more on Kempo itself, or the school I attended.
    Though this leads me to wonder why we have this prevalent Chuck Norris meme, but not one for Bruce Lee?

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  19. Re:Call Bruce Lee by yahwotqa · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's just because Bruce did not have the +10 Manly Beard of Manliness.

  20. Re:But a chance of striking satellites? by Gilmoure · · Score: 2

    Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is.

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  21. Impact would not be a significant risk by coyote_oww · · Score: 2

    per Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_DA14

    2.5MT, less than Tunguska, numerous volcanos, etc. Really, would need to hit some population to get attention, and most of the planet is not populated by humans because of excessive standing water.