No this is 'merica and we lead the world in spying on its own citizens, the only proof you need is its 'merica and nobody out does us.
Infact sir, by you even suggesting that our commy "friends" didnt copy us, well your just anti-merica and your probably a terrorist, and a commy, thats like double anti patrotic...you socialist nazi
Honestly this whole blame the president is getting tiresome, this is a failure of the US government and all branches should be held accountable...our government is a embarrassment and there is no one side that is more embarrassing then the other..they are all corrupt cronies without a ounce of humanity to them.
I think his argument is rather horrible, that being said...your statement isn't any better, how do you know he is a liberal? even if he is, what does it matter? there is no liberal collective consciousness that makes them all alike, also, last i checked its still a country where you have the freedom to choose your own beliefs...or do you want to get rid of that?
Im not saying what he said was right, what i am saying is how you responded to it is equally wrong.
All he really is pointing out is the ignorance of man. We believed it was flat for so long simply because we could not see a curve, but yet it still existed and its still a ball. You cannot have a flat ball. If you look at it from a distance you dont wonder if its a flat land or a round ball. It isnt nearly right, its completely wrong and only human ignorance would say it was 'nearly right'
No it was very much 100% wrong, nearly zero is not zero. Thats like saying 2+2 is nearly 5, its technically true, but utterly wrong, math is absolute.
Science works regardless of what you think, scientist try to figure out how it works by working together and following a very practiced method that, underneath it all, is developed to bypass human mistakes and its own ego. Therefore, when you get 90% of them to agree, there is a very good probability that it is in fact happening. What do you want 100%? you mean like the bible and god.
You know what, fuck it, i don't care...in the future, years from now, when everyone is dying off, at least your the one that looks like the idiot.
There are still plenty of IP, but so many companys just buy them up and sit on them like they are a old childrens toys that need to be preserved in a box to keep value.
Lets face it, these company's are hoping to make money on them when the demand is high, its just a typical move in a oligarchy
"This is a pretty reliable method of creating new terrorists."
You would think this would be obvious, but it either is not to the assholes in Washington, or they want it that way. More terriorst = longer 'war on terror' and that equals to bunch of contractors making loads of money, as a bonus, it gives them equal excuse to ignore the constitution, it also seems to give the court system a way to also ignore our constitution.
Im normally not into the conspiracy theory bullshit, but when the shoe fucking fits...
My job is fixing VPN for remote employees, im sure every single one will disagree. The internet is a HUGE part of are economy now, about as important as roads, electricity. More importantly, its a new way company's are finding a way to charge extra for things you cannot see. FCC just said sure, lets take this father.
The way you simplified such a complex problem down to once sentence and threw in game console to continually minimize it (even though it has nothing to do with anything we are talking about) was a bit of a joke. Makes me wonder, did you think of this simple statement yourself or did you hear something like that from a ideologue.
One more thing, the phone 'want' is considered a necessary utility and is treated as such
Thats a really really bad analogy, do you know what a firewall is? do you understand the difference between a logical network and err pipes....cause its a world of difference.
Networking systems do have shutoff valves at critical places to stop the flow of bad information before it causes critical damage (at least a decent secure setup, it certainly can be done without great expense). In 20 years the tech industry has done more to protect information then the oil company's have done to protect their oil in 80.
you never did answer his questions, infact, you seem to shut the argument down rather quickly which leads me to believe you dont have one.
If his logical fallacy is wrong, whats your argument? how is it that our temperature in a 100 years has grown so fast when normally stuff like this takes thousands of years. Do you really believe that cutting all these trees down and dumping all the co2 in the air is ok? if so why do you believe that? Do you not understand how greenhouse gasses work? If so, explain how dumping a bunch of co2 in the air is ok, if not go read up on it and then answer my question...its ok, ill wait....... What about how the temperature has risen with the co2 levels to a frighting degree of similarity?
There are alot of reasons to believe man is involved, can you provide some logical reason why man is not involved?
Please provide some intelligent argument, your little one liners are cute and amusing, but in no way do the explain the opposing side, infact...i have never really heard a opposing argument, no logical explanation for any of my questions and many more.
We know you wont google it in a house with a mouse, but would you google it in a car, or a plane? how about in a box, with a fox? You may like it you will see, how about in a tree?
Strange, id been charged like.50 on a 3.00 purchase before, i wasnt happy about it but i understand the retailers need for it.
On another note, retailers up the price at there own peril. Free market is just that, and things are generally prices at the line it could be. If a widget that cost.10 to make can be sold at 5.00 it will be, if it can be pushed up to 6.00 it will be...if its pushed up to 6.00 and nobody buys it, then its going to go back down to 5.00....
A really good example of this is the gaming consoles that get sold at a loss, this is because they cant sell it for anymore. Companies claiming taxes and credit card fees raise prices are really just lying, they raised prices because they can get away with it because the market can still move it.
First, it was worded weird, your response from the former response makes it sound like Facebook is mandatory to receive power and water..
You could have worded it like "the government already requires you to get water and electricity" Instead of continuing on the theme of "it is already mandatory" Dont call me dense because you dont know how to clarify your statements
The first link you gave was just to be hooked up to a proper sewage. While i hate defending the worse state of all time, Florida, it does seem likely this ruling is based on health reasons, sewage not going to the proper place has caused many diseases and is a health risk to not just her, but everyone around her. Nothing in there about electricity though.
The second link you gave, is about international people getting together to figure out a safe way to build buildings (you know, so blocks dont burn down and shit like that) It has noting to do with international law...Its a policy that the international community all agreed was good practice and country's created laws on there own...no grand conspiracy here.
But hey, far be it for me to tell you what you do or do not want to live in, plenty of country's don't have building codes or sewage requirements, by all means go live there...Swim in your shit and other peoples shit as far as i care. Want to burn alive in a building because its unsafe without proper exits? not my problem...but dont complain because i want some standards when i go to a building, public or private.
Out of all the stupid shit our government does, and there is alot, minimal safety standards, fire code, sewage requirements, these things comfort me...i dont want my water to contain my neighbors piss and shit, nor do i want my house to burn down because my neighbors start on fire.
I know, you want your freedom to burn alive and drink piss...i want to the freedom to not do that, thanks....
I devices are rather shitty, your relying on apple to get security right and what ive read...they didnt do it.
GO TO FAIL is a good example.
This way Russia gets to use there own OS...If i was a dictator oppressing a country i wouldnt use a I device to do it either...leave I devices to the apple fan boys and enjoy it, competition is a good thing but i wouldnt use a ipad even if it was free (id give it to my kid)
Neither show that facebook is required for anything, in fact it seems you just pulled links out of your ass to show a source so the dumb would believe you.
All terrorist are now required to be named John Smith, if you are a John Smith then you need to change it because only terrorist can be called John Smith.
See, problem solved NSA style......
PS, NSA still needs to listen to your phone calls, make sure you are not a John Smith in disguise
Sorry buddy, but if you think that Obama is the center of all the problems your not seeing the big picture. It doesnt matter who the president is, the system is setup the way it is and one president will be the same as the other.
Since congress is landlocked in this crazy congressional drawn district and many of them are only challenged by even crazier people, the real problem is there.
In the end, this president, the former president and the next few presidents, plus the congress, supreme court and pretty much are entire government will go down as the worse of all time....but i would like to say, your singularly focus on one person means you will do nothing to help stop it because your fantasy land thinks that the president you vote for next time will fix it, but he/she wont..even if by some fucking miracle you get someone who truly wants to change it, you still got 435 idiots in one chamber, 60 idiots in another, then 9 idiots who are looking at them and paving the way for more stupid behavior (supreme court)
i could think of quite a bit of problems that a 'couple of right hooks' would solve
Now that i think about it, whats the point of any law anyways? it should all be social justice, mob rule thats what i say, fuck the goverment. People in general should be allowed to just decide at any given moment what is a fair punishment and if somone is guilty or not, facts, evidence, fair trail...all that is just pointless when anyone can just look at a moment in a situation and just know what to do. couple of right hooks, maybe blow his brains out, or burn him...all these things can just be decided by whoever is around at the moment of emotional impulse
I think your 'free market' will never come to be, human behavior works against such markets.
Now that i think about it, your 'free market' is so vague and full of fantasy that anyone could apply it to what they consider 'free market'. Of course that itself is a free market, let everyone do anything, but of course human behavior will work against that and what ends up being a free market one day will end up being a monopoly the next. Free market needs government intervention, but thats not a free market....and so we come full circle.
In the end im not sure if you are being sarcastic or real, because frankly neither would surprise me and this could go either way, but the idea of a true free market is simply a impossibility.
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No this is 'merica and we lead the world in spying on its own citizens, the only proof you need is its 'merica and nobody out does us.
Infact sir, by you even suggesting that our commy "friends" didnt copy us, well your just anti-merica and your probably a terrorist, and a commy, thats like double anti patrotic...you socialist nazi
It was also congress that insists that they stay.
Honestly this whole blame the president is getting tiresome, this is a failure of the US government and all branches should be held accountable...our government is a embarrassment and there is no one side that is more embarrassing then the other..they are all corrupt cronies without a ounce of humanity to them.
I think his argument is rather horrible, that being said...your statement isn't any better, how do you know he is a liberal? even if he is, what does it matter? there is no liberal collective consciousness that makes them all alike, also, last i checked its still a country where you have the freedom to choose your own beliefs...or do you want to get rid of that?
Im not saying what he said was right, what i am saying is how you responded to it is equally wrong.
All he really is pointing out is the ignorance of man. We believed it was flat for so long simply because we could not see a curve, but yet it still existed and its still a ball. You cannot have a flat ball. If you look at it from a distance you dont wonder if its a flat land or a round ball. It isnt nearly right, its completely wrong and only human ignorance would say it was 'nearly right'
No it was very much 100% wrong, nearly zero is not zero. Thats like saying 2+2 is nearly 5, its technically true, but utterly wrong, math is absolute.
Science works regardless of what you think, scientist try to figure out how it works by working together and following a very practiced method that, underneath it all, is developed to bypass human mistakes and its own ego. Therefore, when you get 90% of them to agree, there is a very good probability that it is in fact happening. What do you want 100%? you mean like the bible and god.
You know what, fuck it, i don't care...in the future, years from now, when everyone is dying off, at least your the one that looks like the idiot.
I hope he wins because...fuck sony
Its pointless, everyone knows its pointless....there is only one thing that matters, did the check clear?
There are still plenty of IP, but so many companys just buy them up and sit on them like they are a old childrens toys that need to be preserved in a box to keep value.
Lets face it, these company's are hoping to make money on them when the demand is high, its just a typical move in a oligarchy
"This is a pretty reliable method of creating new terrorists."
You would think this would be obvious, but it either is not to the assholes in Washington, or they want it that way. More terriorst = longer 'war on terror' and that equals to bunch of contractors making loads of money, as a bonus, it gives them equal excuse to ignore the constitution, it also seems to give the court system a way to also ignore our constitution.
Im normally not into the conspiracy theory bullshit, but when the shoe fucking fits...
My job is fixing VPN for remote employees, im sure every single one will disagree. The internet is a HUGE part of are economy now, about as important as roads, electricity. More importantly, its a new way company's are finding a way to charge extra for things you cannot see. FCC just said sure, lets take this father.
The way you simplified such a complex problem down to once sentence and threw in game console to continually minimize it (even though it has nothing to do with anything we are talking about) was a bit of a joke. Makes me wonder, did you think of this simple statement yourself or did you hear something like that from a ideologue.
One more thing, the phone 'want' is considered a necessary utility and is treated as such
Thats a really really bad analogy, do you know what a firewall is? do you understand the difference between a logical network and err pipes....cause its a world of difference.
Networking systems do have shutoff valves at critical places to stop the flow of bad information before it causes critical damage (at least a decent secure setup, it certainly can be done without great expense). In 20 years the tech industry has done more to protect information then the oil company's have done to protect their oil in 80.
you never did answer his questions, infact, you seem to shut the argument down rather quickly which leads me to believe you dont have one.
If his logical fallacy is wrong, whats your argument? how is it that our temperature in a 100 years has grown so fast when normally stuff like this takes thousands of years. Do you really believe that cutting all these trees down and dumping all the co2 in the air is ok? if so why do you believe that? Do you not understand how greenhouse gasses work? If so, explain how dumping a bunch of co2 in the air is ok, if not go read up on it and then answer my question...its ok, ill wait....... What about how the temperature has risen with the co2 levels to a frighting degree of similarity?
There are alot of reasons to believe man is involved, can you provide some logical reason why man is not involved?
Please provide some intelligent argument, your little one liners are cute and amusing, but in no way do the explain the opposing side, infact...i have never really heard a opposing argument, no logical explanation for any of my questions and many more.
We know you wont google it in a house with a mouse, but would you google it in a car, or a plane? how about in a box, with a fox? You may like it you will see, how about in a tree?
Strange, id been charged like .50 on a 3.00 purchase before, i wasnt happy about it but i understand the retailers need for it.
On another note, retailers up the price at there own peril. Free market is just that, and things are generally prices at the line it could be. If a widget that cost .10 to make can be sold at 5.00 it will be, if it can be pushed up to 6.00 it will be...if its pushed up to 6.00 and nobody buys it, then its going to go back down to 5.00....
A really good example of this is the gaming consoles that get sold at a loss, this is because they cant sell it for anymore. Companies claiming taxes and credit card fees raise prices are really just lying, they raised prices because they can get away with it because the market can still move it.
First, it was worded weird, your response from the former response makes it sound like Facebook is mandatory to receive power and water..
You could have worded it like "the government already requires you to get water and electricity" Instead of continuing on the theme of "it is already mandatory"
Dont call me dense because you dont know how to clarify your statements
The first link you gave was just to be hooked up to a proper sewage. While i hate defending the worse state of all time, Florida, it does seem likely this ruling is based on health reasons, sewage not going to the proper place has caused many diseases and is a health risk to not just her, but everyone around her. Nothing in there about electricity though.
The second link you gave, is about international people getting together to figure out a safe way to build buildings (you know, so blocks dont burn down and shit like that) It has noting to do with international law...Its a policy that the international community all agreed was good practice and country's created laws on there own...no grand conspiracy here.
But hey, far be it for me to tell you what you do or do not want to live in, plenty of country's don't have building codes or sewage requirements, by all means go live there...Swim in your shit and other peoples shit as far as i care. Want to burn alive in a building because its unsafe without proper exits? not my problem...but dont complain because i want some standards when i go to a building, public or private.
Out of all the stupid shit our government does, and there is alot, minimal safety standards, fire code, sewage requirements, these things comfort me...i dont want my water to contain my neighbors piss and shit, nor do i want my house to burn down because my neighbors start on fire.
I know, you want your freedom to burn alive and drink piss...i want to the freedom to not do that, thanks....
I devices are rather shitty, your relying on apple to get security right and what ive read...they didnt do it.
GO TO FAIL is a good example.
This way Russia gets to use there own OS...If i was a dictator oppressing a country i wouldnt use a I device to do it either...leave I devices to the apple fan boys and enjoy it, competition is a good thing but i wouldnt use a ipad even if it was free (id give it to my kid)
Neither show that facebook is required for anything, in fact it seems you just pulled links out of your ass to show a source so the dumb would believe you.
All terrorist are now required to be named John Smith, if you are a John Smith then you need to change it because only terrorist can be called John Smith.
See, problem solved NSA style......
PS, NSA still needs to listen to your phone calls, make sure you are not a John Smith in disguise
Sorry buddy, but if you think that Obama is the center of all the problems your not seeing the big picture. It doesnt matter who the president is, the system is setup the way it is and one president will be the same as the other.
Since congress is landlocked in this crazy congressional drawn district and many of them are only challenged by even crazier people, the real problem is there.
In the end, this president, the former president and the next few presidents, plus the congress, supreme court and pretty much are entire government will go down as the worse of all time....but i would like to say, your singularly focus on one person means you will do nothing to help stop it because your fantasy land thinks that the president you vote for next time will fix it, but he/she wont..even if by some fucking miracle you get someone who truly wants to change it, you still got 435 idiots in one chamber, 60 idiots in another, then 9 idiots who are looking at them and paving the way for more stupid behavior (supreme court)
I predict that these 'cameras' will have a higher then normal fail rate.
i could think of quite a bit of problems that a 'couple of right hooks' would solve
Now that i think about it, whats the point of any law anyways? it should all be social justice, mob rule thats what i say, fuck the goverment. People in general should be allowed to just decide at any given moment what is a fair punishment and if somone is guilty or not, facts, evidence, fair trail...all that is just pointless when anyone can just look at a moment in a situation and just know what to do. couple of right hooks, maybe blow his brains out, or burn him...all these things can just be decided by whoever is around at the moment of emotional impulse
Ya...i totally like your idea
when anyone spends a exuberant amount of money to influence politics its bad....Even a little bit can corrupt.
your general assumptions on the whole of a population is ignorance in a astounding form, bravo!
"of being extremely fucking likely to be some sort of unscrupulous run-of-the-mill government cronyismish corruption."
What you might call corruption is just another day in DC, We cant elect someone not already infected by this corruption.
I think your 'free market' will never come to be, human behavior works against such markets.
Now that i think about it, your 'free market' is so vague and full of fantasy that anyone could apply it to what they consider 'free market'. Of course that itself is a free market, let everyone do anything, but of course human behavior will work against that and what ends up being a free market one day will end up being a monopoly the next. Free market needs government intervention, but thats not a free market....and so we come full circle.
In the end im not sure if you are being sarcastic or real, because frankly neither would surprise me and this could go either way, but the idea of a true free market is simply a impossibility.
Its cause we have a D in the white house, once we get the R in the white house then the hypocrisy flips
it doesn't matter, all of congress is just a big bowl of hypocritical bullshit, both sides dont represent American people