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Real-Time Fact Checking With "Truth Teller"

The Washington Post has announced a prototype news application called "Truth Teller", that displays “TRUE" or “FALSE” in real time next to video of politicians as they speak. The Knight Foundation-funded program automatically transcribes speeches and checks the statements against a database of facts. From the article: "For now, the early beta prototype has to be manually hand-fed some facts, and thus only works on topics it has been specifically designed to recognize. Since Congress has yet to pass a budget, and financial discussions are prone to widespread lies and misstatements, Truth Teller is being piloted on the issue of tax policy."

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  1. Check truth in political speech by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Funny

    So basically they've made a static page with the word "FALSE" on it.

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    1. Re:Check truth in political speech by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2

      Exactly. I've got one for sale now - no need to bother with a Beta. :)

    2. Re:Check truth in political speech by arbiter1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      they don't exactly lie, they do speak the truth if you look at numbers they usually quote in a certain way. they just usually leave out the ones that would make them look bad. The truth they speak of is just on the numbers that make them look good. Like the 4 million job's Obama claims to have created. This video explains it all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQLreUCRYXM

    3. Re:Check truth in political speech by Pieroxy · · Score: 2

      I feel this is bad, because people will then be compelled to give more credit to stuff 'TRUE' not realizing that quotes out of context can convey the exact opposite meaning that was intended. In other words, those exact words may have been spoken by the right people, but in the context they were spoken in, they had a different meaning.

      TL;DR. You're right. True will not necessarily mean you're not being lied to. Only FALSE can be displayed.

    4. Re:Check truth in political speech by N1AK · · Score: 2

      Although it is certainly true that mis-leading is a bigger issue than lying I think you underestimate how many false statements are made by politicians. Sure this wouldn't solve the whole issue, and there is a massive risk regarding who decides what is true/false and their bias, but it could help bring more honesty into politics (or at least highlight who the most honest politicians are).

    5. Re:Check truth in political speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not to be cynical, but how will we know we can trust the machine?

      Simple. Record a video of someone claiming it is reliable. If it says "FALSE" it isn't.

    6. Re:Check truth in political speech by Ocker3 · · Score: 2

      Oh, but the leftist news channels did the same kind of thing once or twice, so the huge number of times Fox News did it are okay!!! Even The Young Turks (TYT) pulled it once recently, they were talking about an interview Quentin Tarantino did with a UK news channel where he refuses to answer a question about violence, saying his position is well known and has been public for 20 years, and he refused to regurgitate it for their show to use as new footage. After that uncomfortableness, the interviewer changed direction and Tarantino quite happily answered a whole slew of other questions. TYT didn't show that part of the interview, and just slammed Tarantino for blowing up and some of the words he used while he did it. I usually agree with the majority of TYT's viewpoints, but I get shitty when a channel I like pulls that kind of stunt. Now it's only an interview with a movie director, it's not a politician lying or covering something up, but I still think they should hold themselves to a higher standard.

  2. Fact check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow. This will never be abused. Now we are spoon feeding low information voters?

    1. Re:Fact check by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 2

      I'm curious what it will base this on. You can have a given subject that two people will disagree on with regard to what is fact and what isn't, and both could be right depending on your source.

      Take for example the Trayvon/Zimmerman mess. If a politician says Zimmerman was racially motivated, will this fact checker say true or false? Likewise if a politician says Trayvon had criminal intent.

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    2. Re:Fact check by StoneyMahoney · · Score: 2

      The third option when there's a disparity like that is that the audience will complain about it / ignore it / turn it off.

    3. Re:Fact check by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      Keeping in this veign:
      What if the public exerted a selection pressure towards harmonizing the results between networks?

      It won't make any difference. People choose networks which confirm their own personal bias, not because they want to find out the truth.

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  3. Me pappy always said... by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if(lips_move)
    then
    display("FALSE");

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  4. I have one already by Jesrad · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... it's a sticker that reads "bullshit", you slap it on the screen permanently.

    Joke aside, who will debunk the dunkers ? Everything we know is false, for vaster and more elaborate definitions of "false" as science progresses.

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  5. That's not possible by Mitreya · · Score: 5, Interesting

    that displays âoeTRUE" or âoeFALSEâ in real time next to video of politicians as they speak.

    Few statements can be classified as "true" or "false" exactly. There is always some fraction of bullshit, but the fraction varies:

    Politifact has
    True --The statement is accurate and thereâ(TM)s nothing significant missing.
    Mostly True -- The statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information.
    Half True -- The statement is partially accurate but leaves out important details or takes things out of context.
    Mostly False -- The statement contains some element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression.
    False -- The statement is not accurate.
    Pants on Fire -- The statement is not accurate and makes a ridiculous claim.

    And even this may be too coarse-grained.

    1. Re:That's not possible by vux984 · · Score: 2

      Now one could argue, and Politifact did, that Mitt Romney used that fact in a misleading way, but the fact itself is true.

      He said Chrysler is going to be building Jeeps in China to imply that American jobs would be lost.

      There is no other reasonable or rational way to interpret what he said. That was a bald faced lie, uttered without actually stating anything that was false

      Everyone knows the best lies contain as much truth as possible, and this was easily the lie of the year.

  6. Watson by SJ2000 · · Score: 2

    I think I'd rather IBM's Watson, I think it's shown a lot of promise in natural language parsing and I think it would do a better job than anything The Washington Post can come up with.

  7. Automated editorializing? by starworks5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Have you ever heard of the concept of garbage in - garbage out? If you ask the majority of people they think that things like return on investment as 'facts', but yet infinite growth in a finite system is impossible, and all economic activity is premised on energy and thermodynamics.

    When politicians say things like 'high taxes are hurting business' will the system be 'hand fed' the appropriate answer, regardless of mountains of evidence showing otherwise because it discourages 'non-productive consumption', and that the high taxes pay for government infrastucture, welfare, and investment?

      Similarly there have been lots of propaganda referred to as facts in terms of tax policy, by the likes of the 'chicago boys' and people like milton friedman et al, however these people don't believe that economics can be studied empirically, and tax policy as an extension of economic policy.

    I have had my share of problems with my local oregon newspaper distorting facts of even its 'politifact', and generaly attacking the institution of government itself as bad, so that it can meet the expectations of the patrons which keep it in business.

    Is is any suprise that news media that are conservative make way more ad revenue per viewer than liberal, say for example rachel maddow or the daily show vs fox primetime, even when they have better age demographics of viewership for advertisers?

  8. Not much is Black and White by eddy_crim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sound like total rubbish to me. Politicians do lie sometimes and they even occasionaly tell the truth but mostly they bend the truth out of all proportion. If they make a statement its not TRUE or FALSE usually the answer would be "WELL... ITS COMPLICATED.. it depends how you look at it" In the UK we have a radio show dedicated to statistics called More or Less http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qshd These folks can spend half the show discussing the truth behind a single political statement and then sometimes dont come to a firm conclusion

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  9. I, for one,... by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Informative

    The difference is that the T/Z interaction details are not facts.

    How much money was allocated to the military in the last ten years in budgets?
    How much money was spent by the military in the last ten years?
    What percentage of the revenue of the federal budget is collected as income tax on those making in the top X% of income earners?
    How many people receive social security who also have assets greater than $2,000,000?
    Are there more or fewer naval ships in service today than in 2000?
    Do the bottom 50% of income households pay zero income taxes? zero federal taxes? zero taxes?
    How many days of vacation has the president taken in the past 4 years? Has the president taken more vacation days per year than the previous president?
    How many firearms are purchased in the US in a year?
    How many intruders are shot by firearms owners defending their property or person?
    How many suicides are the result of firearm use? Of poison use? Of jumping off buildings?
    What is the national average price of hamburger?

    All verifiable facts from reliable, independent sources. Based on the ability of Watson to parse, search, and manage data, I think it's also possible to determine if the data is in question.

    As someone who routinely fact checks and is appalled at the gross inaccuracies out there (not just the twisting or cherry picking, but simply wrong) I, for one, welcome our new robotic fact checking overlord(s).

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