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Why Microsoft Office For iOS Will Likely Never See the Light of Day

MojoKid writes "It has been over six years since Apple introduced the iPhone. Millions of apps have been written for the platform in that time, with collective downloads into the billions. Apple's App Store is a thriving marketplace with a huge amount of software available, except Microsoft Office. There's a version of Office for iOS supposedly in the works, but Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer threw cold water on the idea when asked about upcoming events for the Office suite after launching the new Office 2013 / Office 365 products earlier this week. Revenue sharing is reportedly a major sticking point. Microsoft is trying to push people towards yearly subscriptions with Office 2013 and Office 365, but Apple requires a 30 percent profit share on sales of any app in their store. Microsoft reportedly isn't thrilled at the idea of sharing that much revenue. It's ironic — when Bill Gates agreed to port Office to the Mac nearly 20 years ago, it was seen as a lifeline for the beleaguered manufacturer. Now, Microsoft is knocking on the door of Apple's business and Cupertino seems disinclined to answer."

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  1. wtf by yincrash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's ironic — when Bill Gates agreed to port Office to the Mac nearly 20 years ago, it was seen as a lifeline for the beleaguered manufacturer. Now, Microsoft is knocking on the door of Apple's business and Cupertino seems disinclined to answer.

    This conclusion absolutely does not follow from the sentence that came before it.

    1. Re:wtf by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The reason Bill Gates agreed to port Office to the Mac wasn't altruism. He was at the time trying to fight off the Justice Departments charges of abusing their monopoly. Porting Office was one way to show they weren't really a big bad evil that refused to play nice.

    2. Re:wtf by Missing.Matter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Office has been available for mac since 1989, before it was even available for Windows. Office on mac wasn't something that happened in reaction to antitrust investigations.

    3. Re:wtf by samkass · · Score: 4, Informative

      Indeed... Microsoft Excel was refining itself on the Mac when Lotus 1-2-3 on DOS was the primary spreadsheet for the business world in the 80's. It wasn't until OS/2's failure in the early 90's (when the other office software had generally gone the OS/2 path) that Office-on-Windows really picked up steam. Each version of Word was ported to Windows from the Mac until the much-maligned 5.0 version when they tried to reverse it and failed badly. The question in the late 90's, though, was whether Microsoft would cancel the Mac version of Office entirely or keep it going. The fact that it was always profitable probably helped the decision, but in promising to do so and investing $150M they got out of a huge number of lawsuits they probably would have lost.

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    4. Re:wtf by mfnickster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Each version of Word was ported to Windows from the Mac until the much-maligned 5.0 version when they tried to reverse it and failed badly.

      I think you mean Word 6.0 for Mac, which was ungodly slow on most machines. Word 5.1 was highly regarded as the last "good version" of Word on the Mac for many years.

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    5. Re:wtf by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They never "ported" Office to the Mac; it was already there. Excel was born on the Mac, and Word for Mac was one of the early apps to legitimize it as a platform (when Windows was still a questionable alternative). What happened years later was MS promising to continue Office:Mac (and IE for Mac), a deal that gave the then-faltering Mac a safer future, and gave MS cover from abuse-of- monopoly accusations.

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    6. Re:wtf by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Funny

      Windows 8 has a real chance at beating iOS/Android in the enterprise, which eventually makes it a challenger at home also, and this is in large part due to the ability to run Office - and *the full Office suite* at that. Why would Microsoft want to give away this advantage in exchange for short term Office sales?

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    7. Re:wtf by KingMotley · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes it does. The "It's ironic" at the beginning of the quote ties the two statements together as if they are comparing to nearly identical situations. The first sentence is talking about how back when Apple was hurting and about to go out of business, Microsoft saved them by porting office to their platform. The second sentence now has to be ironic is some sense as it relates to the first. The implication is that the roles are now reversed and Apple has taken a completely different stance from what Microsoft did in the opposite situation, making it an ironic.

    8. Re:wtf by falcon5768 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually at that point Microsoft had pretty much blatantly said to Apple they no longer would make Office for the mac. It was only once the Anti-trust issues started that they reverse course and finally released a new version 5 years after they had made the last version. There was a time period there where Claris was replacing Office as the office suite of choice on the mac thanks to Microsofts neglect, so much so that Apple actually bought out Claris and renamed it AppleWorks.

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    9. Re:wtf by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Funny

      The first sentence is talking about how back when Apple was hurting and about to go out of business, Microsoft saved them by porting office to their platform.

      You're confused. Microsoft created Microsoft Office for the Mac in 1989. More than a year before it appeared on WIndows. There was no porting of Office to the Mac. Rather it was ported from the Mac to Windows.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office

      You appear to have confused it with the settlement of their legal disputes in 1997, which included Microsoft promising to continue supporting Office:Mac. This was no altruistic gesture - this was part of a negotiated legal settlement.

    10. Re:wtf by BasilBrush · · Score: 3

      Your links both refer to the very same report, by some outfit called "Vision Mobile". Who?

      Well, guess who is one of their clients. (RIM) and who is not (Apple).
      http://www.visionmobile.com/clients/

      You do realise this is PR puff don't you? You didn't actually believe it did you? Hope you're not making any financial decisions. You'd be insane to start developing for Blackberry now.

  2. Funny by drolli · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apple should probably pay MS to port MS Office to iOS and preinstall it on ipads.

    That could tilt the movement to Android back in their direction.

    just my 2c

  3. There are ways around it by hsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    MS isn't being creative enough is what it sounds like.

    Offer the ability to create / edit documents via a free MS Office suite on the iDevice.

    Offer a subscription service to be able to save/open those files off the device.

    Apple isn't forcing Netflix to hand over 30% of their revenue, because they give up the App for free.

    But boo hoo, MS has to pay what everyone else does to Apple for the service.

  4. OpenOffice/LibreOffice by ewieling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounds like a perfect opportunity for OpenOffice or LibreOffice to be ported to iOS.

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  5. Excel has been around since 1985 by hemp · · Score: 3, Informative

    Microsoft shipped Excel for Apple OS in 1985, a few years before shipping a version for Windows.

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  6. Re:also why other pro apps will not be in other ap by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 3, Informative

    What cut do you think retail takes?

    And what fee do you think is right for someone that has to supply unlimited bandwidth and insfratructure support to get your app to people everytime they want to reinstall it as well as free 5gb of backup space.

    If that's so unreasonable then why is Microsoft taking 30%? Even Google takes 30%. Microsoft just wants special treatment and quite frankly they can suck it. That's not fair to the small developers.

  7. Re:also why other pro apps will not be in other ap by bmo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The mark-up for selling a bicycle and bike parts is 40 percent.
    Clothing is 100 percent.

    A 30% cut of the retail price is probably lower than brick-and-mortar. Do you honestly think that Microsoft gets the full $300 you pay for Windows 7 Pro from Fry's?

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  8. Re:Obvious. by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It'll need extensive tweaking for each browser to manage such a complicated interface, but MS can manage that.

    Right, just like OWA works fully on all browsers. After all, it's been out for a decade already and it's been redesigned several times...

    Microsoft will never even try to "manage that", because it goes against Microsoft's core business model. While most companies accept that customers want tools that do the job well, Microsoft only makes tools that do the job well only when paired with other Microsoft products. This is why the term "Microsoft shop" is so much more common than an equivalent "Adobe shop" or "Oracle shop", or even an "Apple shop" - at least when referring to more than a single tool.

    Despite Apple's alarming growth and nasty business tactics, I just can's seem to gather as much hatred for them as I can for Microsoft. Apple's tools are smooth. My iPad will easily work with anything else, whether it's connecting to OS X, Windows, or Linux (though Linux has some issues still). Using iTunes on Windows doesn't leave me looking for missing features, like I usually do when trying to use OWA from Chrome.

    On the other hand, I expect that Office will never have an iOS app or a full WebKit-compatible interface. Microsoft can still bring its monopoly power to bear, and use its Office market share to promote its floundering Surface tablets. Some companies (probably including my current employer) will be interested in using tablets, but they need Office more than they need any feature of iOS, so they'll buy Surface tablets out of necessity, not choice.

    Office documents are the last monopoly Microsoft has. Even its hold on the desktop OS market is breaking, as alternatives are becoming more viable with every new OS-agnostic cloud offering. Since Microsoft's main tactic has been to use its monopolies to force ancillary products on customers who just want things to work, I think we'll soon be seeing more extra "features" dropped into each new version of Office, just to force competitors to waste resources and maintain the all-important market share.

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  9. Re:android has more then 1 appstore IOS and window by adamstew · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apples and Oranges. You are comparing Microsoft's desktop operating system with Apple's mobile operating systems. If you compare Apple's Desktop operating system (OS X) to Microsoft's Desktop Operating System (Windows 8) then you still have the same 3 options: Apple's App Store, Steam, and any website.

    If you compare Microsoft's MOBILE operating systems (Windows 8 RT and Windows Phone) to Apple's mobile operating system (iOS), you end up with the same comparison: You are able to get apps from the sanctioned app store of the vendor.

  10. Surface by iceborer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you put Office on the iPad, the only real reason to buy Surface goes away.