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Do Not Track Ineffective and Dangerous, Says Researcher

Seeteufel writes "Nadim Kobeissi, security researcher, describes the Do Not Track standard of the W3C as dangerous. 'In fact, Google's search engine, as well as Microsoft's (Bing), both ignore the Do Not Track header even though both companies helped implement this feature into their web browsers. Yahoo Search also ignored Do Not Track requests. Some websites will politely inform you, however, of the fact that your Do Not Track request has been ignored, and explain that this has been done in order to preserve their advertising revenue. But not all websites, by a long shot, do this.' The revelations come as Congress and European legislators consider to tighten privacy standards amid massive advertiser lobbying. 'Do not track' received strong support from the European Commission."

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  1. Legislation by anthony_greer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The days of the wild west on the net are gone...If the big boys in the industry cant get their shit together soon, we will get legislation, and that will be bad for everyone!

    Just once I wish these companies could see that it is in the best interest of everyone to keep the government out and work together to reach a policy that will be adopted as a general standard without a law mandating it...

    1. Re:Legislation by jazman_777 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Most big companies see it in their best interest to use the government to crush their competitors, all while the government gives them a free hand.

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  2. Poisoning the well by morcego · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For a long time, advertisement didn't bother me. I refused to use ad blocking addons, and considered ads just part of a trade. Sites give me content, I look at the ads.

    Then came pop-ups. Pop-unders. Flash adds. Ads with music. Ads that would make my cockatiel go into convulsion, and start to drool and chase the neighbor's cat. And I have to tell you, my neighbor really loves her cat. And being chased by a drooling cockatiel will really humiliate a cat, and all dogs will start making fun of it. Not an idea situation.

    So, back to the issue at hand. What MOST sites did was poison the well: no one can drink front it. It got so bad that I eventually had to start using ad blocking addons.

    Now people want to implement VOLUNTARY sensitive advertisement and privacy practices. Obviously, they are trying to convince people we no longer need our ad blocking addons. By saying they will do something that is exactly the opposite of what they have done so far, ostensibly.

    Sure, some sites will do the would Do Not Track dance. But those are the same sites that already respect our privacy and my neighbor's cat. Exactly the ones that don't need it.

    The ones that need it the most, will just ignore it.

    Fun, isn't it?

    Fuck Do No Track. I will keep my Javascript and Ad blocking addons.

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    1. Re:Poisoning the well by bmo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Then came pop-ups. Pop-unders. Flash adds. Ads with music. Ads that would make my cockatiel go into convulsion, and start to drool and chase the neighbor's cat. And I have to tell you, my neighbor really loves her cat. And being chased by a drooling cockatiel will really humiliate a cat, and all dogs will start making fun of it. Not an idea situation.

      What you left out of that extensive list was malware served up through ad networks. It's not enough to go to "trusted sites" but you have to trust their ad servers too. On one site I still frequent, there was an ad serving up malware for an exploit in Windows. They have since clamped down on who their ad server is, but after that people installed adblock plus as a security measure.

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  3. No kidding by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Advertisers need to STFU as they are the reason all this happened. Most people really don't mind non-invasive ads that much. They'll let them happen and likely not even complain. However the advertisers seem to think that more obnoxious, more invasive, etc is the way to get attention. Eventually, it pushes people over the edge and they will block it.

    Happened to me. I was fine with ads, I understand the need. However I really hated popups. No problem, popup blocker. Then game the fucking flash ads, ok fine so a flash blocker with click to pay for the stuff I want. Then, HTML 5 ads that take over a page. Ok, fuck you, all ads are blocked, I've had enough.

    Happens with more people I know too. They'll ask me if there's a way to deal with it and I'll point them to Adblock.

    Advertisers really need to understand that if you don't want your market to go away, you have to stop being dicks about it. Keep the ads low key and not fraudulent, and people will probably be ok with it by and large. Some won't, but most won't mind, at least not enough to do something. However the more invasive you are, the more people will block it out.