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iOS Developer Site At Core of Facebook, Apple Watering Hole Attack

msm1267 writes "The missing link connecting the attacks against Apple, Facebook and possibly Twitter is a popular iOS mobile developers' forum called iphonedevsdk which was discovered hosting malware in an apparent watering hole attack that has likely snared victims at hundreds of organizations beyond the big three. It's not clear whether the site remains infected, but researcher Eric Romang dug into the situation and determined that the site was hosting malicious JavaScript that was redirecting visitors to another site, min.liveanalytics. That site had been hosting malware as of Jan. 15."

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  1. Obligatory by bigredradio · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where's your God now?

    1. Re:Obligatory by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

      Where's your God now?

      Smoking bong hits, laughing hysterically, and trying to figure out how else to fuck with us. ;-)

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    2. Re:Obligatory by crutchy · · Score: 2

      Where's your God now?

      he died in october 2011... duh!

      what rock have you been living under?

    3. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't think of it as an asteroid impact, think of it as a polite inquiry into the progress of your space program.

    4. Re: Obligatory by madprof · · Score: 1

      Jimmy Savile!?

  2. Mac Users Do a Software Update by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Informative

    The fix to patch the vulnerability and remove the malware if it's there is available today. Mac users should do a software update.

    1. Re:Mac Users Do a Software Update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Any user with Java on their system, regardless of OS, should do an update (or disable Java...).

    2. Re:Mac Users Do a Software Update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So a company identifies a flaw and puts out a fix and your solution is...to abandon ship and find another manufacturer? You'll run out of viable solutions very quickly, fellow Anonymous Coward.

    3. Re:Mac Users Do a Software Update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Non-mac users don't go to iphonedevsdk, because you cant use an sdk to dev for an iphone on anything but a mac. Ergo, we are immune to this attack.

    4. Re:Mac Users Do a Software Update by _xeno_ · · Score: 5, Informative

      The fix to patch the vulnerability and remove the malware if it's there is available today.

      The keyword there is "today." The actual Java patch was available earlier, it's just Apple only bothered patching their version of Java until - well, after they got bitten by the vulnerability, apparently. Apple had been content to just say "applets are no longer supported" and leave it at that.

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    5. Re:Mac Users Do a Software Update by the_B0fh · · Score: 1

      http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5573

      This update uninstalls the Apple-provided Java applet plug-in from all web browsers. To use applets on a webpage, click on the region labeled "Missing plug-in" to go download the latest version of the Java applet plug-in from Oracle.

      You do realize that Apple has handed over Java support on OSX back to Oracle, right?

    6. Re:Mac Users Do a Software Update by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      You do realize that Apple has handed over Java support on OSX back to Oracle, right?

      For Java 7, yes, Apple doesn't support that. For Java 6, they still do. The Apple version of Java still exists, was vulnerable to the Java 0-day, and missed the patches that fixed it that were first released a couple of weeks ago. Their fix was instead to just disable applets entirely, which is great unless your IT department requires an applet to use their wi-fi network. (Seriously.)

      And, yes, there are still some Mac OS X apps that require Apple's version of Java, because it's not completely compatible with Oracle's version of Java.

      However, it turns out that Java itself was updated today, and that Apple's Java patch includes today's Oracle patch, so it may turn out that the flaw being exploited wasn't patched at all until today. (The article claims it was exploiting a flaw that was patched at the start of the month - a patch that never made it to Apple's version of Java.)

      Quick recap: Apple is not supporting Java 7. They are still supporting Java 6, which is still living on because not all Mac OS X Java apps support Java 7.

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    7. Re:Mac Users Do a Software Update by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      The fix to patch the vulnerability and remove the malware if it's there is available today.

      The keyword there is "today." The actual Java patch was available earlier, it's just Apple only bothered patching their version of Java until - well, after they got bitten by the vulnerability, apparently. Apple had been content to just say "applets are no longer supported" and leave it at that.

      RTFA. Seriously. There was a patch - but it didn't fully fix the hole. Not to mention that "Apple's version of Java" wasn't affected, only Java 7.

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    8. Re:Mac Users Do a Software Update by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      You do realize that Apple has handed over Java support on OSX back to Oracle, right?

      For Java 7, yes, Apple doesn't support that. For Java 6, they still do. The Apple version of Java still exists, was vulnerable to the Java 0-day, and missed the patches that fixed it that were first released a couple of weeks ago.

      Now that's odd, are you claiming that the 0-day works in Apple's Java 6 despite only working under Java 7? http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2013-0431

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    9. Re:Mac Users Do a Software Update by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      So a company identifies a flaw and puts out a fix and your solution is...to abandon ship and find another manufacturer? You'll run out of viable solutions very quickly, fellow Anonymous Coward.

      Obligatory car analogy - it's like buying a Chevy because your Ford's got a flat tyre.

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  3. Most comments below... by coinreturn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    will be nothing but hate.

    1. Re:Most comments below... by eksith · · Score: 1

      A lot of comments above are already full of hate :/ And I don't get why they blame Apple for this when clearly Oracle is at fault for letting Java stagnate this much.

      When Cisco took over Linksys we ended up with lackluster hardware. No big deal. But when Oracle let their bought product stagnate, the damage is a lot more severe if only due to its sheer ubiquity and dependence.

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    2. Re:Most comments below... by exomondo · · Score: 1

      I don't get why they blame Apple for this when clearly Oracle is at fault for letting Java stagnate this much.

      The reason is because this flaw exists in Apple's implementation of Java 6 - which is still required by many people as not all apps work on Oracle's Java 7 (which was patched for this vulnerability some time ago).

    3. Re:Most comments below... by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      I don't get why they blame Apple for this when clearly Oracle is at fault for letting Java stagnate this much.

      The reason is because this flaw exists in Apple's implementation of Java 6 - which is still required by many people as not all apps work on Oracle's Java 7 (which was patched for this vulnerability some time ago).

      Funny - there's no mention of Java 6 here, only Java 7.

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    4. Re:Most comments below... by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Funny - there's no mention of Java 6 here, only Java 7.

      Why are you only looking at one vulnerability?
      As reported by Ars Technica, the 15th February, Facebook was victim of a watering hole attack, involving a “popular mobile developer Web forum“. The attack was using a Java 0day that has been urgently patched, in Oracle Java CPU of first February, by version 7 update 11 and version 6 update 39. http://eromang.zataz.com/2013/02/20/facebook-apple-twitter-watering-hole-attack-additional-informations/

    5. Re:Most comments below... by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      It's the only vuln linked to as far as I can see.

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    6. Re:Most comments below... by exomondo · · Score: 1

      It's the only vuln linked to as far as I can see.

      The article just mentions that there was an exploit added to the Cool Exploit Kit that exploits that specific vulnerability, it doesn't make any suggestion that was the one used or that the Cool Exploit Kit was used, it could have been any of the many 0-day exploits patched very recently.

  4. malware by Mr.123 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The site in question has been hosting malware on and off for over a year now. They were flagged at least half a dozen times by google over the past year for hosting malware. The site then went down for weeks while overhauling the entire forum software and then bam, this happens. Unfortunately some very good discussions happen on the site and I just can't quit using it.

    1. Re:malware by edxwelch · · Score: 1

      It used to be a great site for App Store marketing tips, but since has gone downhill some what

  5. Okay.... this is a new one. by mark-t · · Score: 2

    What the heck is a "watering hole attack"?

    1. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1, Troll

      People come to you.

      Animals need to go to a watering hole to get their water, iOS folks need to go to this site to get their software.

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    2. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by ThisIsSaei · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's where you target a page used by multiple targets. Here a mobile developers forum was hit, that forum was not the real target but the people who use it frquently were. "Poisoning the watering hole" if you will.

    3. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Quote : "iOS folks need to go to this site to get their software."

      Ehhhhh....no.

    4. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      People come to you.

      Animals need to go to a watering hole to get their water, iOS folks need to go to this site to get their software.

      Not really. It's more of a 'candy store' attack. It's a popular, but not necessary. site.

    5. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by mark-t · · Score: 1

      The only place iOS folks really need to go for their software is to Apple's online developer portal.

      I've been developing for iOS for 2 years now, and had not ever heard of this particular web forum prior to this article.

    6. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What the heck is a "watering hole attack"?

      It's where troopers metaphorically attack a swagman by a billabong (the 'watering hole') causing him to leap to his death and subsequently haunt the area. I won't go into detail on how this applies in relation to computer security, but I'm sure you get the gist of it.

    7. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by rb12345 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Traditionally, you had "spear phishing" attacks which had attackers sending malware or phishing emails directly to their targets. This is relatively easy to spot and filter. The "watering hole" attacks work by compromising a trusted third-party site used by the targets. For example, if your attacker know you read Slashdot or use some specialised forum site, they could attempt to compromise those sites and use them to host exploits as part of the normal pages (infected banner ads or modified page content).

    8. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by MadKeithV · · Score: 1

      What the heck is a "watering hole attack"?

      I'm not quite sure, I was half expecting a Hurd of GNUs in a drinking frenzy.

    9. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

      best reply of 2013 so far.

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    10. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      It may not be entirely accurate, but what retarded mods are flagging this Troll?

    11. Re:Okay.... this is a new one. by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Really? Were developing with a rule against using a search engine? They turn up in plenty of my search results for various iOS dev related things.

      They were one of 'the first' iOS dev sites, earlier enough that I'd venture to say they were probably there before apple's iOS SDK existed but my memory may be a bit off, that was 5 years ago.
      Not knowing about this site indicates you live in a virtual box.

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  6. Time to learn. by ThisIsSaei · · Score: 2

    This is a good reminder that with web-security you're only as secure as the weakest link. A new exploit pushed from a popular dev site on a trusted platform like Java is going to hit you hard and you can't avoid it directly. The real story here is how quickly / properly people responded, and how well defensive infastructure and policy stopped the intrusion. There's months and months of good security analytical reading right here. We can also compare company to company as it hit more than one.

    1. Re:Time to learn. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      a trusted platform like Java

      Sorry, what? Several things come to mind when I think about Java, "trusted" is not one of those things. Java is a textbook example of a single piece of the platform (the browser plugins) giving the entire thing a bad name, even if it's not justified. Anyone who still browses around the general internet with a browser that has the Java plugins enabled is either unaware of what the Java plugin is, or stupid. If you're a Java developer, have one browser with your plugins enabled that you use only to develop your own software. Your general-purpose browser should not have those things enabled, in fact all plugins should be click-to-start in your general browser. I have development and general use browsers and my applications don't even involve plugins, it makes sense for more reasons than just security.

      you can't avoid it directly

      Yeah you can, you really can. I visited the forum that was infected just to see what they were saying about it (interestingly, their announcement did not include anything about Java). I wasn't worried about visiting the forum because of how my browser is set up, it's not going to get infected even if they're trying to infect me. You really can avoid it, and it's not even hard to do. In this case, the forum was compromised because the attacker got credentials for an admin account and used it to modify the template to include his Javascript (or so claims the poster on the forum making the announcement). The users can't do anything about accounts getting compromised, but they sure as hell can avoid having a giant bullseye painted on their browser.

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    2. Re:Time to learn. by ThisIsSaei · · Score: 1

      I have a completely secure computer for you, it's called a rock.

      Yes, running a no-script browser is techincally safer, but it's also technically useless as you're missing out on the content provided by those scripted services. Do you manually type in captcha hashes? Do you ignore all video posted anywhere? You'll never run a single script, ever? A browser is inherently insecure as it's entire purpose is to download and render remote scripts.

      It's very ignorant to insist that you're bullet-proof, or to insist that it's a Java only (or even worse a "browser plugin") issue. Java is not uniquely bad, it's just the latest target. The correct approach to security is mitigation of threat, not summary denial of vulnerability.

    3. Re:Time to learn. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Yes, running a no-script browser is techincally safer, but it's also technically useless as you're missing out on the content provided by those scripted services. Do you manually type in captcha hashes? Do you ignore all video posted anywhere? You'll never run a single script, ever?

      Where did you get that from? The interface of the major application I work on is over 1.5MB of Javascript. I don't disable Javascript. I disable plugins from automatically starting plugin content. This has nothing to do with scripting. I'm talking about Java, not Javascript. Hopefully you know the difference, if you don't then don't bother to reply to things like this. As for video specifically, if I come across a Flash video on a news site or whatever that they embedded in a way where click-to-start doesn't work for that site (such as CNN), then I just copy and paste the URL into my development browser which otherwise never browses the general internet.

      Java is not uniquely bad, it's just the latest target.

      Whether or not Oracle's Java browser plugin is uniquely bad is in fact a matter of debate.

      The correct approach to security is mitigation of threat, not summary denial of vulnerability.

      I'm not sure what you're saying there, "mitigation of threat" and "denial of vulnerability" sound like the exact same thing. I am mitigating the threat by denying even the operation of the vulnerable Java plugins from automatically starting and executing whatever code a site is attempting to feed to them.

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  7. Re:without clicking on the link by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you block *.com you should get a lot of it.

  8. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    OS X is a tinker toy OS.

    That was deeply hurtful and insulting. Why do you hate Tinker Toys so much?

  9. Re:LOL by kthreadd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Since the exploit was in Oracle Java I would blame Java, not the operating system which dutifully let the program run. What do you suggest that Apple should do to tidy up the security in OS X? Make it run only Apple approved binaries?

  10. Re:LOL by NatasRevol · · Score: 2

    Not for the last two years. They passed it back to Oracle after Oracle bought Sun.

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  11. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course this does not apply to Windows where hacks via flash, java, quicktime, etc are definitely the fault of the Windows OS, probably Bill Gates in particular, as he's the devil. That's always been the consensus on slashdot.

  12. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since the exploit was in Oracle Java I would blame Java, not the operating system which dutifully let the program run.

    Well that counts out just about every Windows exploit from being Microsoft's fault then, after all Windows was just dutifully letting the program run. Do you know nothing about security? If you can exploit a user level application to compromise the system then it is the system's fault.

  13. Re:LOL by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not exactly.

    They stopped supporting future versions of Java - namely, Java 7. They still support Java 6.

    In theory, by now, Java 6 support should have been dropped and Java 6 should no longer be updated at all. However, due to problems with Java 7, and compatibility issues between Apple Java and Oracle Java on Mac OS X, Java 6 lives on and is still being updated.

    The Apple update to Java 6 was delivered through Software Update by Apple as an OS update. Java 6 is still done by Apple. At some point, Apple will drop support for Java entirely and the only way to run Java on Mac OS X will be to install it from Oracle.

    In fact, this should have happened already. But it hasn't, yet. The next version of Mac OS X will presumably drop support for Apple's Java entirely, but as of today, it still lives on, and patches for it still come from Apple.

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  14. Those darn Chinese! by chad_r · · Score: 1

    Ah, the weakly supported claims that China is at an all-out "cyberwar" now become clearer. The Chinese army must have created the site min.liveanalytics.org. Then they deviously drew in visitors from a popular site, including some from major US corporations. For any machine that was vulnerable, China has thusly "hacked" the corporations owning those machines. Hackers get cred, the news media gets to scream that the sky is falling, and the US government gets to increase funding for the "war on cyberterror". It's win-win-win!

    As to your next question, no I do not know the owner of min.liveanalytics.org to prove it is owned by the PLA. However I follow the same standards as the news media, security companies, and most slashdot posters; i.e., that it "seems reasonable" and "who can doubt that they are behind it." Who, indeed!

  15. Re:LOL by kthreadd · · Score: 1

    Yet the security hole in question was related to Oracle Java, not Apple Java.

  16. Re:LOL by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

    Since the exploit was in Oracle Java I would blame Java, not the operating system which dutifully let the program run.

    Well that counts out just about every Windows exploit from being Microsoft's fault then, after all Windows was just dutifully letting the program run. Do you know nothing about security? If you can exploit a user level application to compromise the system then it is the system's fault.

    Not quite - it all depends where the vulnerable code is. If it's in java.dll, the fault is Oracle's. If it's in, say, user32.dll, then the fault can definitely be blamed on Microsoft.

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  17. There's an update by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    There's an update to the first article - looks like almost the same attack (via the same JavaScript inclusion, using a different exploit of course) was active on Fedoraforum.org last July.

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