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USPS To Launch Line of Smart Clothing

SpaceGhost writes "The Washington Post reports that the United States Postal Service has contracted with Wahconah Group, Inc. to produce a line of USPS-branded smart clothing. Per USPS Licensing manager Steven Mills 'This agreement will put the Postal Service on the cutting edge of functional fashion... The main focus will be to produce Rain Heat & Snow apparel and accessories using technology to create 'smart apparel' — also known as wearable electronics.' USPS Spokesman Roy Betts reports that the line will be found in premium department stores and specialty stores starting in 2014. The Washington Post points out that the USPS had done a similar retail line in the 1980s sold exclusively at Post Offices, but the line was discontinued after lobbyists complained of competition with the private sector." I hope it has hidden pockets for lost letters, and a loop for the package smashing mallet.

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  1. FYI by Sparticus789 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The package-smashing mallet has been outsourced to India. The USPS union said that it was not in the mail-carrier's contract.

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    1. Re:FYI by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is that why mail is so slow? They ship it around the world so cheap labour can maul the packages? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just skip the mauling step?

      It would be cheaper, but it is absolutely essential in order to provide feature-parity with UPS and FedEx. In any case, they must still be using local mallet-smashers for relatively local (regional) mail, because I still get stuff from within the state in two days or less.

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    2. Re:FYI by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is that why mail is so slow?

      Slow? I can send a five pound text book from Chicago to California in 3-4 days and it's less than $4.

      The Post Office consistently does a better job than FedEx or UPS. That's why when UPS sends stuff, they do it via the US Postal Service.

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    3. Re:FYI by aklinux · · Score: 2

      And I can download your 5 lb. textbook onto my tablet in of a couple of minutes for less than $4 as well, Weighs less this way too ;)

    4. Re:FYI by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Informative

      UPS and FedEx may not be perfect, but at least their tracking software works

      To add another anecdote to the fire, just yesterday I received a package from the USPS that the tracking software said would arrive last week, and that apparently never left their sorting facility as far as the tracker was concerned.

      Actually, the train of events that showed up on the tracker was:

      1. Shipping information received
      2. Package sorted through facility.
      3. Package received by USPS from the shipper. (The day after the previous one where it was "sorted.")

      Then nothing, until the package arrived over a week later.

      Although it was fun seeing the "estimated arrival time" not change days after it was supposed to arrive.

      But, hey, they only slightly damaged the contents of the package, just some minor cosmetic damage. Plus, unlike a previous package shipped via the USPS, this one actually arrived...

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    5. Re:FYI by fuzznutz · · Score: 3, Informative

      You got only twelve pieces of mail during an entire year? You mean they lost/mangled two pieces of mail out of hundreds or thousands they delivered normally.

      No. First I doubt I get more than a 100 pieces of "real mail" per year. I do get junkmail and advertisements. I don't care if that crap gets shredded or lost. They screwed up two out of twelve paychecks for the year. Those are the important ones. Screwing up one is unacceptable. I've had bills lost in the mail. Before I moved to my current home, they misdelivered my mail to the wrong address all the time. It was a running joke that at 5:00 everybody in the neighborhood was out RE-delivering the mail to the correct addresses. A couple years ago, I got a large tied bundle of presorted letters addressed to people all over the neighborhood. It was stilled tied together. I just do not count on anything sent by USPS as reliable. period.

      I have to drive ten miles to the nearest UPS office to pick up an envelope, compared to five blocks downtown to the post office.

      And my UPS Store is two blocks away. The Post Office is 2 miles. What's your point?

      Let me tell you about my USPS Office.Their service is so bad and had so many complaints that the postmaster put up signs all over the lobby. It said "If you have to wait more than 5 minutes, call this number." My usual wait time is over 30 minutes on a good day. One day the mail carrier left a "I can't deliver this" card on my door. (They didn't knock or ring the doorbell). I started calling the local branch office when I got to work. The line was busy all morning. At lunch, it mysteriously wasn't busy anymore; it rang and rang, but nobody would answer. Right after lunch it went constantly busy again, and so I left work early and to pick up my package in person. When I showed up, I saw the signs up everywhere about wait times.

      Their solution to angry customers in long lines was to take the phone off the hook. I laughed when the people in line waiting said to me that we should all call the number on the sign. I told them to go ahead, but I had been calling it all day.

      The Post Office has a systemic problem.

    6. Re:FYI by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      Explain to me why a postal worker with less than three years of service can accrue 208 hours between sick leave and annual leave?

      At 8 hours a day that's 26 days. I know the US is weird about annual leave, but that would be below the bare minimum in Europe. Even in the UK we have 28 days minimum holiday (20 days plus public holidays).

      It seems to be that the Union is doing precisely what it should be doing, securing decent benefits for its members.

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    7. Re:FYI by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      And I can download your 5 lb. textbook onto my tablet in of a couple of minutes for less than $4 as well, Weighs less this way too ;)

      Yeah, I'm sure he never thought of that, after all it's unlikely that someone on a fucking technology site would even know what a Tablet Computing Device was.

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  2. Umm... by jonyen · · Score: 2

    Have they gone postal?

  3. Hmmm ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Postal Service inked a licensing agreement with Cleveland-based Wahconah Group, Inc. to produce the new line, which will include jackets, headgear, footwear and clothing that allows integration of modern technology devices such as iPods, according to agency spokesman Roy Betts.

    What, like pockets?

    I must say, after reading TFA ... I have no idea of what this is or why I'd want to buy it from the USPS.

    I'm more baffled by this tidbit ... In 2006, Congress passed a statute requiring the Postal Service to pre-pay for 75 years worth of retiree benefits within 10 years. No other federal agency is forced to make such an investment.

    Why only the Postal Service and no other agency? To make sure Fedex profits stayed high?

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    1. Re:Hmmm ... by Microlith · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why only the Postal Service and no other agency? To make sure Fedex profits stayed high?

      Yes, basically. They did it so that in the event that the USPS fails to meet the unfair obligation the GOP can point to it and cry about how the government fails at all things and that we should put our trust in private industry.

      Up until this was forced on them the USPS was actually doing fine, fulfilling its constitutional obligation.

    2. Re:Hmmm ... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      ::CLANG:: In the red corner, the libertarians. In the blue corner, the Keynesians. Round 1 FIGHT!

      Two fruitcakes enter!

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    3. Re:Hmmm ... by jo_ham · · Score: 3, Informative

      I must say, after reading TFA ... I have no idea of what this is or why I'd want to buy it from the USPS.

      I'm more baffled by this tidbit ... In 2006, Congress passed a statute requiring the Postal Service to pre-pay for 75 years worth of retiree benefits within 10 years. No other federal agency is forced to make such an investment.

      Why only the Postal Service and no other agency? To make sure Fedex profits stayed high?

      That's exactly why. Lobbyists working for businesses that compete with the USPS basically want it forced out of business, or into a crippled state, so that they can ride in as saviours on private business horses to save the day. The problem is that the USPS was actually doing really well and was (and still is) totally self funded (no taxes pay for its upkeep), so they simply manufactured a no-win situation. The bill along will the extremely onerous restriction to fund retirement plans for employees who haven't even been born yet, specifically forbids them from putting up the price of stamps to raise revenue.

  4. Re:and they wonder why they dont make money... by kannibal_klown · · Score: 4, Informative

    My understanding is, a lot of their financial woes are coming from a 2006 Congress mandate that the USPS start pre-paying into their retirement plan to fund future-future retirement. In short, they're asking them to pay more to handle people that won't retire for years now. And that Congress is dipping into that money for something else.

    And from what I've heard, if they weren't asked to be paying extra into said fund they'd actually be making a small profit.

  5. I ride, all 4 seasons by way2trivial · · Score: 2

    I ride a really old honda pacific coast in the dark, the bitter cold, and snowshowers.

    if'n they have come up with some good heated gear, I'm intrigued....

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  6. Re:and they wonder why they dont make money... by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The real problem is the the USPS is designed as a letter carrier. Not a shipping company.
    So electronic communication is reducing the needs for letters (envelope based mail), and online shipment of stuff is being processed by Shipping companies like FedEx and UPS, who are better organized for shipping packages. No so much letters.

    They are going to need to move from Mail Men either walking door to door, or in small cars and trucks. To a larger trucking service where they can handle more boxes and less envelopes.

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  7. Re:Privatize! by Desler · · Score: 2

    The USPS hasn't received direct taxpayer money since the 80s. Their revenue shortfalls are due to a Republican Congess passed bill that put the ridiculous retirement obligation on them.

  8. Re:is it time for a whitehouse.gov petition by NekoYasha · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes:
    Release the Postal Service from the draconian Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/release-postal-service-draconian-postal-accountability-and-enhancement-act-2006/Gz6MrsBy

  9. They need a catchy slogan by wytten · · Score: 2

    Since they are trying to strengthen their brand awareness, they should have a catchy advertising slogan for this new clothing line.
    I'd suggest "Go postal!"

  10. Re:is it time for a whitehouse.gov petition by NekoYasha · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not that this is the first petition to ask to remove the postal office from the requirement of pre-paying 75 years of retiree benefits.

    (For the record, I'm not a U.S. citizen and have not created or signed either petition.)

  11. Re:and they wonder why they dont make money... by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So if I understand correctly the rules are: 1. you have to pay above market rate for salaries/benefits and you are not allowed to fire anybody 2. you have to charge less than a market rate for mail delivery 3. even though the government sets the rules that force you to fail, it is not allowed to bail you out. Oh but don't worry we'll set up some arbitrary rules that give you monopoly on certain types of mail so everything should be fine. Isn't it great how we have geniuses in charge in Washington who work everything out so perfectly for our benefit.

    Just privatize the stupid thing. Apart from accident of history here is no reason for the government to be in charge of mail delivery any more than pizza delivery.

    That's why they introduced the bill in the first place - private industry wants the USPS out of business. It was doing totally fine before the deliberately-crafted-designed-to-fuck-them 2006 bill was passed.

    They put rules in place that no private company would ever be expected to adhere to, that were designed to do exactly this - to push it into financial crisis so that people will say "oh look, government post services don't work! the private sector will save the day!"

  12. Re:and they wonder why they dont make money... by DutchUncle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    History and *legal* precedent suggest that you want to retain a government involvement in the mail. For some things you need *legal* proof that you mailed something on a certain day, perhaps to a certain address, especially when dealing with government dealings like taxes and property forms and legal paperwork. If anything, the question might be, Why didn't the USPS remain the most efficient transport service rather than allowing private companies to pass them? Who hobbled the USPS to allow "private competition"? (BTW - would you pay extra for air mail if you knew it was carried in the back seat of a fighter plane? Hey, they have to do some training flight time anyway . . . )

  13. Re:and they wonder why they dont make money... by clong83 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They're losing money for a variety of reasons. The most important is that they are mandated to exist by congress, and are supposed to be financially autonomous, but are micromanaged by congress. You'd have to think long and hard to come up with a worse group of PHBs. Congress told them to pre-fund in full their retirement fund for the next 75 years. The USPS has basically said, "This requirement is bankrupting us. If you relax it, or let us make our own decisions we'll be fine." People wonder why they can't compete with FedEx, UPS, DSL, etc, and the answer is simply that those companies don't have to listen to Congress dictate details like telling them to pre-fund the entirety of a 20 year-old employee's pension right now. I'm all for fiscal responsibility and responsible funding of pensions, but is ten years of secure pension funding not enough? 20? 30? I mean, 75? How do you even estimate your pension needs 75 years in advance?

    On another note, one idea I've heard that was intriguing would allow them to operate something like a bank. Not a financial investment house, but a low-end and low-cost branch bank. Sure, I might not switch all my finances over to it, and most people probably wouldn't either. But I might open an account and seed it with some cash if it were convenient. I could send mail and have it draw on the account without having to buy stamps or wait in line. Just drop it in a box at the post office and enter my account number/pin. It could work really nicely. There's already a branch in every city. And for a lot of working poor that have no bank affiliation, it might be the most convenient place to open an account, reducing the population of unbanked. Basically a public option for retail banking.

    Believe it or not, it works like this in most other places, mostly with success. And this is the way it used to work in the US as well, but it was not FDIC insured, and was phased out in the 60s or 70s.

  14. Re:You're not going to get that loop by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My packages from Fedex or USPS are usually near perfect condition upon receiving them. UPS employees on the other hand seems to willingly just beat packages to hell for the fun of it.

    I don't know where you live, but here at my house, in Chicago, if a package of mine is lost or damaged, it's more likely to be FedEx or UPS than the Post Office.

    Around here, FedEx especially has a habit of dropping a package on a doorstep, which is an invitation to theft. For the same amount that UPS or FedEx will send a package without recipient signature required, I can send something via USPS with delivery confirmation (less than a buck).

    My wife's a book collector. She buys and sells rare or unusual mathematics books. She only uses USPS and requests that people sending her books us USPS, because we know we'll get it and it won't take a bit longer than UPS.

    And we'll never get a little slip of paper telling us "We missed you, so now you've got to drive down to the UPS office to pick up your package".

    When the Founding Fathers created the Post Office, there was a good reason that they believed it was necessary to have such a service (and yes, there were private companies already doing the same thing).

    And now we've got a bunch of anti-government extremists trying to kill this important service, using poison pill benefit funding requirements and anti-competitive restrictions.

    If the USPS goes away and this sector is left to two players, you can bet that there will be huge increases in consumer shipping costs, and people will have absolutely no alternative. Without the USPS, online commerce would have been badly hamstrung and we wouldn't see anything like the explosion in online shopping that we have today. There's a reason that the default shipping method for Amazon, Netflix, etc is the US Post Office.

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  15. Re:Privatize! by operagost · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Senate passed it unanimously and it was cosponsored by two left-wing Democrats.

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  16. Re:and they wonder why they dont make money... by PerfectionLost · · Score: 2

    Not true. If there are no buyers at your price point you will not be profitable.

  17. Re:and they wonder why they dont make money... by garyebickford · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually they're remarkably efficient. I don't have the link handy, but USPS handles an amazing amount of stuff, and their overall track record is excellent. They have two basic problems, or three depending on how you count. 1) Congress saddled them with a requirement to pre-fund the retirement account for all their workers, which no other company is required to do; 2) mail volumes of all types (and thus, revenues) have been dropping by 10-20% per year; and 3) bulk emailers (catalogs, junk mail - the stuff that really pays the bills) have pulled way back due both to the internet and to the economy. One might also note that in most countries the cost to mail a letter is substantially (often multiple times) more than in the US, and/or is subsidized or run by the government. USPS, like AmTrak, is a bastard concoction created by Congress to look like a business, act like a business, and be required to be profitable like a business, while being saddled with an impossible set of rules. Others than myself have described both as 'designed to fail'.

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  18. Re:You're not going to get that loop by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

    And now we've got a bunch of anti-government extremists trying to kill this important service, using poison pill benefit funding requirements and anti-competitive restrictions.

    In other words, a bunch of anti-government, pro-Market people are using the government to ensure that the USPS cannot operate under Free Market rules. In order to "prove" that government doesn't work.