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HP Back In Tablet Game With Android-Based 'Slate7'

theodp writes "You know the old adage, 'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me?' Still, even if you got bit by the HP TouchPad debacle, HP's newly-announced $169 Slate7 tablet could prove hard to resist. Specs-wise, the Slate7 sports an ARM Dual Core Cortex-A9 1.6 GHz processor, 7-inch 1024x600 HFFS screen, Android 4.1 (Jellybean), three-megapixel camera on the back, front-facing VGA camera, 8GB of on-board storage, HP ePrint, Beats Audio, and a micro SD expandable card slot. It measures 197mm x 116mm x 10.7mm thick, and weighs in at 13 ounces. It will be available in the U.S. in April. Engadget has some pics and their initial hands-on take."

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  1. The innovation we've come to expect from HP by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This represents the innovation we've come to expect from HP -- none at all.

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    1. Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My thoughts exactly. Compare it to the Nexus 7:

      - Shit screen
      - Shit CPU
      - Shit camera
      - Old version of Android
      - Usual HP "quality"

      About the only thing it has going for it is the SD card slot, which would put it on a par with Chinese tablets costing half the price except that it will inevitably have HP's bloatware pre-installed and un-removable instead of vanilla Android.

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    2. Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP by blind+biker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      - Shit camera

      The Nexus 7 has an even shittier camera.

      And I am a proud owner of a Nexus 7, but the camera really isn't anything to write home about.

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    3. Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      This represents the innovation we've come to expect from HP -- none at all.

      They are just tapping into the well of competence that they obtained by buying Compaq's consumer division:

      1. Purchase cheap chinese shit from ODM.

      2. Apply once-respected label.

      3. Profit!(and, if you don't, fire the engineers and let your stock options ride the bump, either way...)

    4. Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP by blind+biker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To add to my sibling comment: the Slate 7 has a rear-facing 3 MP camera. Not fantastic, but much better than 0 MP rear facing camera of my Nexus 7.

      The CPU of the Slate 7 is somewhat comparable to that of the Nexus 7.

      So, while I love my Nexus 7 and think it's still the best value for money you can get (outside the Nexus 10, which is just phenomenal value for money - you get the absolute best tablet on the market at any price), I don't think the Slate 7 is a clear loser in all aspects, to the Nexus 7.

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    5. Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 2

      Having just bought and reviewed a "Chinese" tablet I can say the HP's specs are way too low to compete. They seem to be designing in slow motion. I got the Hyundai T7 (a tablet "made" by a Korean company in China by....Samsung) and it has a 1280x800 IPS with same cpu/gpu as the GSIII for $148+ship. Battery life not the greatest (a design choice), but most people can probably live with it (does anyone really watch 8 hours straight of video?). Outside of that it performs quite well and has sd,usb and hdmi. Why can't the major players give us that? The reality is that the hardware of the non-famous names is rapidly catching up, if not equalling, that of the popular brands. But at a significantly lower price.

  2. Re:Kindle HD by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nexus 7 (pure Android), or Nexus 10 (pure Android, larger, loads more powerful). Don't see the point of saving a little money for some crappy customised machine. There's no problem looking at pdfs, movies etc on any Android device, so no advantage in Amazon hardware.

  3. HP Touchpad debacle? by Erythros · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, that was a debacle. Initially overpriced so that it couldn't sell then underpriced so that you got one only if you were lucky enough. HP was onto something with the Touchpad, but not everyone was enamored with WebOS. If they were smart they would have ported Android to it and sold it at a reasonable price, maybe $250-$325 range. Those of us smart enough to get one for the hardware specs knowing Android would soon be ported got a great tablet, I use mine all of the time. As far as their latest venture, due to their lack of market penetration up to this point, I doubt consumers will take their offerings seriously and further reviews may doom the device before it has a chance. Who knows, it does seem snappy enough for a budget priced tablet even if the aspect ratio sucks.

  4. Re:I find it fishy by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only thing you can be sure about is that presenting the non-functional end of a device has absolutely nothing to do with recognizing that people buy these as fashion statements rather than functional devices.

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  5. Re:Kindle HD by saihung · · Score: 2

    Indeed. The audio from my Touchpad with ICS is better than what comes out of my laptop speakers, and better than anything I've heard from another tablet of any description.

    The debacle over the Touchpad / webOS was thanks to Apothekeer and the total failure to promote the damned things, or to push bugfixes out in a timely fashion. It didn't have to end that way.

  6. Re:Kindle HD by blackest_k · · Score: 2

    Doesn't seem to be all that good it is missing a few things, it does have 1Gb of ram and bluetooth 2.1
    what isn't said is GPS? Glass Screen? USB Host? HDMI? Multitouch ? confused reports of 3meg camera and 0.3 meg Camera on board.

    It is not very good and not even on that price point (+ taxes?)

    For a new product it has out dated Specifications The Ram onboard Should be at least 2 GB and it has lost me already with no gps or hdmi, even 1 full sized host usb port was too much to ask for the screen resolution is too low.

    It's just another junky tablet, its "beats" branding and HP name is not enough to make it anything like desirable. Just another nail in the coffin for HP unfortunately.

  7. Re:great name!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I dunno.

    How many people returned the Nexus 7 because they thought it had Windows 7?

  8. It's a first step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Part of the problem with HP is they make an entry into a market, and its not perfect and they turn and run immediately. WebOS was a case in point, overpriced, not perfect, immediately dumped. No attempt to refine it and retry.

    Here Android tablets have moved on from this, they'll need to have a few stabs at this to get it right. But they won't, they'll turn and run.

  9. So what exactly is 'beats audio?' by SuricouRaven · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously. I've tried to google, and the most informative things I find are other people asking the same question. Nowhere on the HP site does it actually say what this technology is, though they do seem to insist on putting a (tm) after every use of the term. There's a lot of marketing rubbish like "With Beats Audio(tm) on board, the richest, most dynamic sound on a laptop is at your fingertips." But nothing that actually says what Beats Audio is or does. The best I've come up with is http://tunelab.com/2012/01/09/what-exactly-is-beats-audio-update-an-answer/ - which suggests that it's just a trademarked name for a few changes as trivial as changing the headphone jack surround from metal to plastic (which most have anyway) and installing common-sense things like putting the headphone amp away from any noisy digital traces.

    1. Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' by Chewbacon · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's licensed from Dr. Dre's line of headphones (which I believe is manufactured by Monster cable). Existing technology that they had to slap some hip guy's name on. I have it on my HP laptop and it honestly sounds pretty good as far as laptop speakers go.

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    2. Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' by Fri13 · · Score: 5, Informative

      It is a brand for idea to use EQ to make bass sound deeper/stronger and have a higher quality for audio than typically (no distortion at any volume level you could hear) is offered in mobile devices.

      It is similar than what Creative has for its SB Live! branding

    3. Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' by Plasmoid2000ad · · Score: 2

      It's a lovely marketing stamp in general. In practice though, on HTC devices at least, it means putting in a decent headphone amp that is actually big enough for poor quality headphones, and having some built in equalizing code that pushed up the bass. For most people, it means things sound better...

    4. Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' by Excelcia · · Score: 2

      It's simply an equalizer preset that boosts the bass and high end a little.

      Funny thing. On the HTC One V phone, a little Beats Audio icon would show up in the status bar when you plugged in headphones. Originally, when you'd drag down your notifications and select Beats Audio, you'd get a dialog where you could select from about 10 different equalizer presets, only one of which was the "Beats Audio" setting. The rest were the typical equalizer presets. Rock, Pop, Bass Boost, Classical, etc. When the first update came out for the, that dialog was replaced with a simple "Enable/Disable" for Beats Audio. I guess they didn't want people realizing this much vaunted "Beats Audio" was just another equalizer preset.

      Normally something like this would be the other way around, with the handset or laptop manufacturers licensing some Dolby sound labeling. In this case, the HTC update having deleted all the other equalizer preset settings leads me to suspect that this is a Beats marketing strategy. I'm guessing Beats is going to the handset manufacturers and paying them to advertise "Beats Audio" on their handsets in order to boost name recognition and give them street cred in the audio market. And when HTC dumped Beats Audio in with a bunch of other equalizer presets, I suspect Beats wasn't too happy about that, which caused the change.

  10. Re:units? by flyingfsck · · Score: 2

    grams per kibigram?

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  11. Definition of insanity by Chewbacon · · Score: 2

    ...doing the same thing and expecting a different result. To the stockholders: what could possibly go wrong?

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  12. 3Mpix rear camera tech by Fri13 · · Score: 2

    What I wish from that 3Mpix rear camera is that has a autofocus in it.
    I own a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7" and it has 3MPix rear camera what is very handy for many situations when you make notes or you want just to quickly record something and you don't need quality what you only get from DSLR or digital video cameras but it is terrible in situations where you would need to get closer than 30-40cm because missing autofocus. And that means as well you can not scan all 2D barcodes well.

    Just give good 3Mpix camera with autofocus and it will be great for taking pictures to notes.

  13. Re:"bit by the HP TouchPad debacle"? by queazocotal · · Score: 2

    Charge it occasionally, to at least 50%
    Some devices will permenantly kill their battery if actually left idle for years.

  14. Re:great name!! by WizardFusion · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got a Nexus 10, where's my Windows 10? :)

  15. Touchpad burns? I think not. by TrentTheThief · · Score: 3, Informative

    Burned by HP's Touchpad? Not hardly. My TouchPad dual boots WebOS and CyanogenMod 10.

    It was well worth the moeny. The graphics are tremendous and the audio is soooo sweet.

  16. Re:Kindle HD by synapse7 · · Score: 2

    I think the HP should be closer to the $99-149 range given those specs, otherwise you would be crazy not to get the Nexus. Hardware advantages aside, the software updates alone would be worth the extra money.

  17. Re:great name!! by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

    What does "slate" have to do with Windows 7, exactly?

    I know, I know... I had the same problem when I bought a used 2007 Nissan. I totally expected it to have an in-dash Windows 7 computer.

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  18. It is a 7 inch screen... by Kupfernigk · · Score: 2
    I have a Blackberry Playbook with exactly the same screen resolution and it is perfectly usable. The simple fact is that on a 7 inch screen anything over about 1000 by 600, for most people over 30, is just marketing boasting. Of course Slashdot is infested with people who have golden eyes, like the "audiophile" golden ears, but really 1000 by 600 on a 7 inch screen is at least as good perceptually as 1280 by 768 on a 10 inch.

    The problem for HP, as for RIM, is that being technically right does not help to sell what for many people is a fashion item.

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  19. "bit" by touchpad "debacle"? by Chirs · · Score: 2

    The touchpad was (and still is) a pretty nice tablet. I got three at firesale prices (one for me, two for family members) and they're all still going strong. Mine dual-boots webOS and CyanogenMod 9.

    The audio quality on the touchpad was the best of any tablet I've heard and it far exceeds the audio on either of my laptops. The built-in inductive charging is awesome, all new equipment should be doing that out-of-the-box.