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High Court Orders UK ISPs To Block More Torrent Sites

An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from TorrentFreak: "The website blocking phenomenon has continued today in the UK, with the High Court adding three major torrent sites to the country's unofficial ban list. Following complaints from the music industry led by the BPI, the Court ordered the UK's leading Internet service providers to begin censoring subscriber access to Kickass Torrents, H33T and Fenopy." Unlike when the Pirate Bay was blocked, none of the ISPs contested this. They did, however, refuse to block things without a court order. Looks like the flood gates have been opened. On the topic of filesharing, Japan arrested 27 file sharers, using the recent changes to their copyright law that allow criminal charges to be brought against file sharers.

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  1. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Suddenly six strikes that end with a slap on the wrist doesn't look so bad.

    1. Re:Wow by davester666 · · Score: 2

      What makes you think they will end with a 'slap on the wrist'? That process is simply a new one, in addition to the existing process of suing individuals. If anything, it makes the lawsuit that much better "But we gave him six chances to stop!" [it WILL be presented as a defacto admission of guilt unless you have challenged each step and been successful, which is, well, impossible] Nevermind that at best, they can only establish which internet connection was used for this possible infringement.

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  2. Fun times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When the law begins to not represent the morals and wishes of the people. The Australian tax payers are building a high speed fibre optic content distribution system that will allow content producers to sell us their copyrighted product and they have the gall to claim that we will be using it for piracy.

    FUCK you content producers, I'm going to lobby the government that we should be taxing copyrighted content to subsidise the delivery system that the people have paid for,

    1. Re:Fun times by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2

      And the entire music industry gathers together for a wonderful holiday charity chorale, featuring their stunning new number, "We Jump The Shark Together".

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  3. Re:the future... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Or possibly sneakernet. You can get 1TB external USB drives cheap now, and can fit a lot of piracy on one of those. Every school, college and workplace will have a Knock-Off Nigel ready to swap drives.

  4. Re:Easily Avoided by mark-t · · Score: 2

    It's a little more complicated than that in practice, but the general idea is sound.

    If you a) don't download infringing content in the first place; and b) do not ever share your internet connectivity with anybody else who might, I might suggest that you'd be pretty safe from harassment.

  5. Re:the future... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, it just means less piracy, which in turn will mean more money for the entertainment industry to use to bring us great movies and music. Sure, the mooching parasitic pirates will be upset, but the rest of us, who are willing to pay hard earned money for high quality entertainment, will be much better off.

  6. Dear Judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have good reason to believe that criminals use the telephone system to distribute plans to commit crime. It is time to shut down these criminal aiding telephone systems.

  7. Im done pirating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a blessing in disguise - Its a chance to stop stealing content (lets be honest here) and buy stuff through legit channels. The reason I started pirating in the first place is that a 700 mb xvid was vastly more convenient than going to the store, bringing home a dvd wrapped in annoying plastic with easytear perforations that never work and sitting through an FBI warning with nonsensical forced previews. This is all resolved, Hollywood has listened and there are tons of ways to stream movies (only the movies and non of the crap). Piracy is gone in my world, I thank Hollywood for listening to us.

    1. Re:Im done pirating by JRock911 · · Score: 2

      You must live in a world where you like watching two year old movies on Netflix and TV shows being held back on Hulu. Yea.. Hollywood is right on top of things. The only decent thing they've done right is music.

    2. Re:Im done pirating by Kjella · · Score: 3, Informative

      They'll come around eventually, Spotify and other streaming services are now over half the music market in Scandinavia and HBO seems to have finally taken a whacking with the cluebat and introduced HBO Nordic, a streaming-only service that'll have new episodes within 24h of airing. Sure they could use a few more whacks with the cluebat, but it's a start. Give it another 5 years and I think it will have spread just like Spotify has. Movies will be last because they still manage to get people out of their chair and into cinemas for unskippable commercials and to buy overpriced soda and popcorn on top of expensive tickets, but if TV go streaming they will too. In any case, there's no reason to stop pirating. It's no surprise these services have launched where piracy is strongest and where the Pirate Party has made most progress, they're damage control. You just have to keep at it and drag them kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

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  8. Re:How is this done? by Spottywot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are these sites pulled from those ISPs' DNS servers? Do they block the IP address (which could easily be changed)? Non-Brits want to know.

    Well when TPB was blocked a few months ago it definitely wasn't DNS(I use open DNS and couldn't access it normally). I think they must be blocking the IP address, easily negated by the various proxy sites that popped up straight away, and which still give easy access to TPB without the next need for TOR or a VPN or any such obsfucation techniques. The same thing will happen with this next round of blocks. The ISPs that grumbled the last time probably aren't bothering this time around, because they are aware of the fact that it won't really affect anyone other than having to alter a couple of bookmarks before carrying on as usual. I'd be willing to bet that there has been no decrease in torrent traffic since the Pirate Bay block, and there will be none this time either.

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  9. Re:Easily Avoided by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not downloading is no protection or excuse. There are countless examples of people wrongly targeted. BBC Watchdog covered it a few years ago and had an expert example the computer and router of an elderly couple who were accused to make sure a) they didn't do it and b) they were not hacked. The detection system is broken and targets people at random.

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  10. Re:How is this done? by amorsen · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Cleanfeed". Built for blocking child porn, of course. Traffic to specific IP addresses is redirected to a deep inspection system.

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  11. Re:the future... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    I don't buy music CDs or movies until I have downloaded and sampled them first. The harder they make it for me to download the less I will buy, or at least the less of their wares I will buy. Those other guys who give away their stuff freely get my attention and money instead.

    Yeah, I'm the immoral bastard who gets up and makes coffee during advert breaks instead of being glued to the screen paying for my free entertainment. What a dick.

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  12. Re:VPN FTW! by letherial · · Score: 4, Interesting

    VPN is easy to use, we as information liberators need to educate the rest of the 85% on how to get around this.

    Airvpn is the best i think, easy to use and quite affordable, as a bonus they also accept BTC

    https://airvpn.org/

  13. Re:How is this done? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's not actually a DPI system, though your close: It's a transparent HTTP proxy. The packet filter just directs traffic to port 80 on blacklisted hosts to the transparent proxy box, and the transparent proxy then filters on specific URLs. If it were a true DPI system, requests would still appear to originate from the correct IP address and we wouldn't have seen the wikipedia incident happen. Transparent proxying changes the source IP, which can be very disruptive to anti-vandal/troll systems and really mess with log analysis.

  14. Re:the future... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

    720K disks. Not that they were up to date even then, but I had a cubic meter of them. Quite literally. An old Atati ST collector gave them to me: A box one meter on each side, filled to the brim with 720k floppies. So many I could just give them away. So I did. Loaded with (via spanned ZIPs) mostly pokemon stuff. Website rips, roms, emulator, whole episodes in realvideo format. It was the in thing back then.

    That was at school. Now I'm in employment, and it still goes on. The technicians exchange 1TB drives. I also have it from a very reliable source - a friend who works for some Big Media Company they can't name, but to judge by their knowledge of chroma key algorithms they know enough to plausibly hold the position - that among the rank-and-file tech staff of the place, piracy runs rampant too. Though he also says that if Management ever found out, heads would roll.

  15. Re:VPN FTW! by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    No! Fuckin' NO!

    Remember the early days of "copyright infringement on the 'net"? And no, I'm not talking about Napster. That was BEFORE Napster. See? See how nobody gave a fuck? It wasn't worth half a second on TV, it wasn't worth half a line in your local newspaper, and it sure as hell wasn't worth spending a few hundred k bucks to buy a politician.

    We made distribution of content so easy that even the last dimwit could do it. And that became a problem. Because they dimwits weren't stealthy about it. And it drew attention from the very last ones you want attention from.

    Just ponder for a moment what kind of business AT&T would have meant if blueboxing became a widespread phenomenon instead of the little nuisance it was to them.

    I'm done with "educating the masses". The masses don't want education. They are not hungry for wisdom, they're just greedy. They want everything and for free. Nothing else. And this isn't worth risking even more limitation to my freedoms, sorry.

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  16. Re:Easily Avoided by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    Okay, their detection method is fatally flawed for reasons I will present in a moment, but first I'll make the more general point that they have never sued anyone who bothered to turn up and content it in court. They know their evidence is weak and would be shot down, so they rely on people just paying up and drop it the moment you challenge them.

    Their system works by gathering IP addresses from a tracker. Many trackers now seed themselves with some random IP addresses to break this. TPB has had doing it for years before they shut their's down. If you pay for the deluxe service they then try to connect and download some of the data from you, to prove it is a real client and not a fake.

    So they have an IP address that they claim to have downloaded from, with a screenshot of it happening. Note that you can easily fake these via a handy web site: http://piratbyran.org/bevismaskinen/ . An IP address doesn't identify you, it identifies an internet connection. Maybe, assuming ISP records are correct. Keep in mind that we don't have any process by which they can take your computer or router away for examination, so that is all they have going to court. Maybe more than one person uses that router. Maybe someone hacked it. You are under no obligation to investigate for them. They have nothing, and have been told as much by judges repeatedly.

    It's a scam. Speculative invoicing.

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  17. Re:VPN FTW! by letherial · · Score: 2

    We just see things on two different planes of existence, while you seem to want to protect the content industry, i want to open the flood gates.

    Fact is, the numbers are far and against the industry, the more people that know the more people that will do and the less control they have and maybe, just maybe, things can change. I am for civil disobedience on a massive scale, you want to hide in the shadows and be one of the few that can get around things, i want a change, you want the way it is to continue

    Big difference between you and me

  18. Re:VPN FTW! by letherial · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its good for hiding your identity, it creates a encyrpted tunnel between you and the vpn, as you request data from the internet (say from bittorrent) that request is sent through the tunnel and through there server, effectively hiding your IP and your data from the ISP. You should use a public DNS, Google has a few and changing it can be a bit challenging for someone not understanding how it works, but once you understand it its easy. Lots of documentation on the web on how to change to a public DNS.

    The downside is the data needs to travel farther and through extra hops, slowing everything down.

    You want a VPN that claims to hold no logs, and some claim they dont but yet still do, airvpn has always impressed me and i have never had or heard of a problem with them, they also take BTC so your paper trail cannot be traced through say paypal. For pirating software, it will work fine and you would probably even be fine without changing your DNS, though id do it anyways.

  19. Re:the future... by elashish14 · · Score: 2

    I don't buy music CDs or movies as doing so would support fundamentally evil organizations which seek to strangle the progress of humankind under the influence of their own greed. I feel guilty even listening to that stuff even if I didn't pay for it, as I feel a better approach would be to support independent artists in the unlikely effort of breaking the cartel. But I do support independent artists, given the opportunity. Magnatune, Jamendo, and Band Camp are great ways to accomplish this.

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