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FCC To Investigate Cell Phone Unlocking Ban

Edgewood_Dirk writes "In response to the recent White House petition, the FCC will be investigating the viability and possible harm of the ban on cell-phone unlocking. Gregory Ferenstein met with FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski at a TechCrunch CrunchGov event Wednesday, where the Chairman said the 'ban raises competition concerns; it raises innovation concerns.'" This line from the end of the article fails to inspire confidence: "Genachowski isn’t sure what authority he has, but if he finds any, given the tone of the conversation, it’s likely he will exert his influence to reverse the decision."

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  1. maybe check out FCC.gov by zlives · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ""Genachowski isn’t sure what authority he has"" I refer him to http://www.fcc.gov/what-we-do and specifically to

    " Promoting competition, innovation, and investment in broadband services and facilities;
            Supporting the nation’s economy by ensuring an appropriate competitive framework for the unfolding of the communications revolution;
            Encouraging the highest and best use of spectrum domestically and internationally;
            Revising media regulations so that new technologies flourish alongside diversity and localism;
            Providing leadership in strengthening the defense of the nation’s communications infrastructure."

    1. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      also if they have no authority and can't get anything done, get lost and give me my tax dollars back.

    2. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      None of which indicates what legal recourse he can take in the instance.
      That's what he is talking about.

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    3. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by DragonWriter · · Score: 2

      Genachowski isn’t sure what authority he has"" I refer him to http://www.fcc.gov/what-we-do [fcc.gov] and specifically to

      The scope of legal authority of a regulatory agency is not, surprising as it might seen, "everything that might plausibly fit within the description the agency provides of its general function on its website."

      Whether or not an agency has the legal authority to take action on a specific question which it has not previously addressed is something that the head of the agency might want to consult with the agencies legal staff before stating. Its, IMO, quite appropriate for Genachowski to acknowledge that he is unclear on whether the FCC has authority in this area if that has not been examined.

    4. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by icebike · · Score: 5, Insightful

      None of which indicates what legal recourse he can take in the instance.
      That's what he is talking about.

      Well they seem to rewrite FCC regulations at will when they want to swap frequencies or ban certain devices. Usually with no change in the law.

      Why are they investigating the effects of "ban on cell-phone unlocking." Why aren't they investigating a BAN on Celphone Locking? Several other countries have such a ban. Why do we allow such locking anyway? The carriers have your credit card, they have a contract, why do they need a lock on on your phone?

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    5. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

      Because a customer with mandatory adware and spyware on their phone is more valuable than one without.

    6. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If Congress has never passed a law which grants the FCC the authority to regulate whether or not a cell-phone provider can ban users from unlocking cell-phones, than the FCC has no authority to intervene. It very well may be that the FCC would need to go to Congress to request such authority. Of course in that case one would hope that Congress would consult the Constitution to see whether or not they had the authority to grant the FCC such authority (I also know that Congress would not do so). I am not commenting either way on whether or not the FCC or Congress has such authority.

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    7. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 2

      ""Genachowski isn’t sure what authority he has"" I refer him to http://www.fcc.gov/what-we-do and specifically to

      " Promoting competition, innovation, and investment in broadband services and facilities; Supporting the nation’s economy by ensuring an appropriate competitive framework for the unfolding of the communications revolution; Encouraging the highest and best use of spectrum domestically and internationally; Revising media regulations so that new technologies flourish alongside diversity and localism; Providing leadership in strengthening the defense of the nation’s communications infrastructure."

      Let me highlight that for you.

    8. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by Belial6 · · Score: 2

      I'm thinking they just need to only authorize unlocked phones to use the frequencies that the phones use. This way they are not mandating the phones be unlocked. The carriers can sell all the locked phones they want. The FCC will simply stick to their authority of deciding what devices are authorized to use the radio spectrum.

    9. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      I think he is talking about how all the carriers sell phones loaded with crapware and if it was simple to get rid of, like say "push this button to load cyanogen mod"? Most would do so.

      But I think this ultimate goes to a deeper problem with cellphones in the USA, and that our system is set up all distorted. From what I've been told the rest of the world simply buys their phones and then chooses their carrier and plan, no different than how you buy any PC and then choose the ISP in your area that offers the best deal. Contrast this with the USA where they simply give you the phone and make more than double their money on the cost of the phone with their frankly shitty plans.

      With the price of ARM SoCs falling like mad there really isn't a point to keep the current system except that it lets the carriers have captive audiences and make crazy money. I have to wonder if that isn't why pre-paid plans and phones are exploding, folks aren't getting tired of getting boned and would rather have contract free phones instead. I know I'm seriously looking at the Walmart unlimited (yes I know its actually 2GB per month, I don't use a smartphone for anything other than GPS and other basics so that is fine) because frankly the data plans in my area suck price wise and with that I can just buy an Android phone and call it a day, just buy a card every 6 months and not deal with carrier bullshit or extra crap on my phone.

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    10. Re:maybe check out FCC.gov by bratwiz · · Score: 2

      >> "Why aren't you demanding the useless fucks in congress give you your tax money back"?

      The only problem with that is it would require those self-same useless fucks to get up off their larded arses and DO something.

      Question: How do you starve a member of Congress?

      Answer: Hide their paycheck under their WORK boots.

  2. The FCC has done similar before. by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The FCC has done a lot of similar things, say for example mandating that cable companies can't sell boxes that don't include a cablecard, or requiring all cable companies to permit self install of cablecards.

    What would stop them from outright forbidding cell phone locking?

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    1. Re:The FCC has done similar before. by DragonWriter · · Score: 5, Informative

      What would stop them from outright forbidding cell phone locking?

      Regulatory agencies are empowered by specific positive grants of power. The appropriate question is "what would allow them to...", not "what would stop them from..."

    2. Re:The FCC has done similar before. by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      What would stop them from outright forbidding cell phone locking?

      Money

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  3. Publicity stunt by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2

    Like all things coming from the White House Petition Site, this is an opportunity for the President to appear like he is in touch with the common man. Expect an official looking executive directive and a press release from the relevant agency. After that... We'll see.

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    1. Re:Publicity stunt by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2

      Get me a working budget first, then let's worry about the next big internet petition.

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    2. Re:Publicity stunt by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 2

      Agreed, "Take 'Yes' for an answer guys." This is one of the more positive results from a WH petition.

      Even if the FCC doesn't act on cellphone unlocking, when the FCC Chairman is on record saying the "ban [on unlocking] raises competition concerns; it raises innovation concerns," that's got to be worth some points at next year's LoC DCMA-exemption hearings.

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    3. Re:Publicity stunt by Reverand+Dave · · Score: 3

      He was right the first time. You're an idiot. Getting a working budget is the job of congress and they aren't gonna do anything to help the Whitehouse. Something like this is more in line with the executive branch, but if it really makes you feel better to blame our ruined budget on something other than 2 unfunded, unjustified wars and corporate welfare, then by all means go ahead and point the finger...

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    4. Re:Publicity stunt by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

      Supposedly the House of Representatives is responsible for spending bills so why should petitioning the President mess that up?

    5. Re:Publicity stunt by DragonWriter · · Score: 2

      As soon as I see one of those "public input" things being seriously discussed (and I don't mean a publicity "see, we are talking about it" stunt on C-SPAN) and not just laughed off in the cafeteria, we can start talking.

      How about, actual policy directives in response to one, which goes beyond even "being seriously discussed".

  4. Re:Wrong branch by DragonWriter · · Score: 3, Informative

    Which goes a long way towards explaining the wrongheadedness of the decision, and should give a fine hint as to exactly what the FCC Chairman can expect to do about it. (Nothing.)

    The fact that the Librarian of Congress can issue a directive making it illegal under the DMCA for consumers to unlock phones that have been locked by providers does not mean that the FCC can't issue an order under its authority with regard to telecommunications prohibiting wireless vendors from locking phones in the first place, which would render the issue of a DMCA exemption allowing unlocking locked phones moot.

    Asking the FCC to investigate and explore possible action is, in a sense, more than the petition called for (as it called on the President to ask the Librarian of Congress to reverse the decision and, failing that, lobby Congress to take legislative action to reverse the LoC action.)

  5. Re:Who's harm? by mark-t · · Score: 2

    If people buy locked down shit, and you get what they deserve.

    You are, like the people who figured that it was acceptable to lift the dmca exception that permitted cell phone unlocking until a couple of weeks ago, on the grounds that there is currently a respectable availability of unlocked phones for consumers to utilize anyways, failing to realize the perhaps less than immediately obvious unintended consequences of outlawing the unlocking of new cell phones.

    In creating laws which protect locked cell phones from being tampered with by consumers, the system ends up creating an incentive (however slight) for cell phone providers to actually distribute locked cell phones, usually in place of unlocked ones, so that the distributors can enjoy whatever additional benefits that the legal protection actually offers. It's the same problem as with outlawing the breaking of encryption on copyrighted works... the lawmakers end up supporting a particular business model or technology that may not actually reflect what consumers really want. And because providers of such devices have been given some additional incentive to distribute such locked devices, the availability of unlocked devices will gradually start to decrease over time, ultimately leaving a consumer with little to no choice but to either purchase a locked technology, or else ultimately simply not be be part of the technologically advanced culture at all.

  6. Because an Unlocked phone is not a copyright issue by erroneus · · Score: 2

    Perhaps I simply lack the imagination. Perhaps someone here could offer up a reasonable rationale as to how a carrier locked phone is protecting ANYONE's copyright? You understand this is being done, apparently, under the DMCA.

    The carriers have no copyright over which carrier I use.

    Now if they are talking about rooting a phone and loading custom firmware? That's a different matter. Because as we know, "media" such as flash drives, recordable CD/DVDs and such have been the target of pre-emtive fines/taxes which presume people will use them for violating someone's copyright and these measures are meant to compensate the largest of the copyright NPEs. (I love that -- NPEs: Non-Practicing Entities. They don't create music or art... they just buy it, limit it it and control it. We should all start calling the copyright houses copyright NPEs to better identify how they contribute to the arts.)

    But that's the thing about phones. The software/firmware is a part of the functional device. The software/firmware is copyrightable... but also patentable... it is erasable... replaceable. The software which carriers peddle contains things which the consumer has no interest to say the least and often arguably serves to harm the consumer. It is not about copyright as much as it is controlling the device and the consumer by extension. This exceeds the intent and purpose of copyright AND the DMCA.

  7. Re:Wrong branch by TubeSteak · · Score: 2

    The fact that the Librarian of Congress can issue a directive making it illegal under the DMCA for consumers to unlock phones that have been locked by providers

    The LoC did not make unlocking illegal.
    The default status of cell phone unlocking is 'not legal'

    The LoC allowed for an exemption to the law and then decided not to renew that exemption.

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  8. Re:Because an Unlocked phone is not a copyright is by compro01 · · Score: 2

    The DMCA prohibits bypassing "access control measures", in this case, carrier locks that control access to cell networks. There is no requirement that they be controlling access to copyrighted material.

    Reason $BIGNUM why the DMCA is a horrible law that should have been strangled in the crib.

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