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Ask Slashdot: Software To Help Stay On Task?

GiboNZ writes "Like many others, I easily get distracted when working on a computer. Say I work on a task — be it a programming job or bookkeeping or whatever — and need to quickly check something on Google. Unfortunately after a while I often find myself on Slashdot or eBay or reading emails instead of continuing with the job I was doing before. Maybe if I had a 'single-tasking desktop' it wouldn't be such an issue. I couldn't Alt-Tab to my email client with tempting 200 unread emails, Alt-Tab to browser with 10 tabs open for later, Alt-Tab to unfinished document from yesterday, Alt-Tab to ... you know what I mean. I want to be forced by some technical means to work on the problem I should work on. Will alone doesn't work — I tried. Like when mowing a lawn — there I've got nothing else to do and I keep mowing until it's finished. If I could multitask in the same way I can on a computer our little backyard would take me the whole day to do. Any ideas how to inhibit the distractions ever present on modern multi-tasking internet-connected desktops? I genuinely want to be more productive but the technology is against me."

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  1. Simple Suggestion by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Turn your wifi connection off. After the first few 404's you'll be surprised as how much work you'll get done.

    1. Re:Simple Suggestion by noh8rz10 · · Score: 3, Funny

      iOS! Finally, a use for iOS "multitasking"

    2. Re:Simple Suggestion by euroq · · Score: 4, Funny

      In college, I once took some Ritalin to study for a test. I swear to god, I inadvertently wandered onto some porn before it kicked in... and then I ended up masturbating for THREE FUCKING HOURS STRAIGHT. I shit you not.

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    3. Re:Simple Suggestion by sammyF70 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Want something meaningful?

      find out why you can not concentrate on your job. You're too tired? go to sleep earlier in the evening ... works wonder. Your job is boring you? Then either it's just momentarily and you should stop procrastinating and force yourself to do it in the knowledge that the good stuff is coming soon. If it's not a momentary boringness then assume that this job is not for you. Try to find out whether it is your workplace or the occupation per se that makes it hard to concentrate on your work. If the first, then actively look for a job at a different place, if it is the second that it won't matter if you change your workplace ... you need to find another occupation that a) can pay the rent and b) makes you happier. Notice how I never talk about "get a better paid job". Money is nice but, in the end, you won't take it to your grave and past a certain "I can live more or less comfortably from that" amount, it will make NOT you happier.
      If you are a consultant or running your own business and you can not find a way to actually force yourself to do your work, then consider the fact that you might not be cut out for indenpendancy. Nothing to be ashamed about, and good of you to try it, but being an independant worker means much MORE work and much stronger self-discipline than being a salary man. Try to get a job which pleases you with a fix monthly income and paid vacation. You will be a lot happier.

      tl;dr: find out why you can not concentrate on your work, act to fix the problem. Do not drop some aderall, as they will NOT make you happier, just more "productive".

      now, dear AC, your turn ...

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    4. Re:Simple Suggestion by MickLinux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would strongly advise against the chemical path. Couldn't it simply be that he has bad organization skills? The 200 unread emails are a sign. My prescription, for first-level intervention would be:

      1] A daily to-do list posted on the wall, with priorities assigned by number. Cross out items that are finished, add items that you need to.

      2] better use of mail folders. One should be "personal", another "useless". I keep folders named "corporate" for stuff about production meetings, a couple for specific reports I have to file, twenty or so according to the jobs I have to do, with shipping dates on the name, and one called archive that gets all the finished jobs.

      3] A calendar on your phone, with alarms for important stuff

      4] use your smart phone for quick google lookups.

      5] since I already have a notebook I plug an auxillary monitor into the computer and use both screens. You'd be surprised how having the priority task always in front of me helps keep me on task. I'd suggest the same for anyone with attention issues.

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    5. Re:Simple Suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why's this marked insightful? It's a troll. While ADD is without a doubt over diagnosed, that doesn't mean it isn't a real problem. In a world where we can scan peoples' brains and find out that yes, different brains are functioning differently than others, why do we still tolerate this level of ignorance? The idea that every person's brain is the same and that you can just will yourself to do better needs to die. We know there are numerous people who suffer mental conditions that we can actually trace to a cause, maybe a tumor or a chemical imbalance or something else, and we're still finding out more and more about the human brain. Yes, people abuse the system and make false claims, but that's a problem with everything, medicine related and otherwise. I know, you don't have this particular problem so you don't understand it, that's actually a big issue for sufferers of mental conditions. I know this because I have a friend who suffers from a condition, one that can be scientifically observed, deficiencies that can be measured, and yet still every day he puts up with people telling him he needs to get over his problems and grow up. They don't understand and refuse to listen because they are ignorant, ignorant like you. His problem isn't ADD, but with him at support groups we've met many people with ADD, a few who were overstating their attention problems, but among them are people who don't want to take medicine, who try to just trudge through their lives without any of that help, and who suffer one failure after another because they can't even focus on tasks they enjoy, a fact many critics of ADD ignore. Do you want yo know what they talk about the most at support groups? Dealing with ignorant people who don't even seem to realize we understand extremely little about the human brain and who judge everyone with a problem as a liar or some lazy bum. I can't defend everyone on medication, in fact the next most frequently discussed problem at the groups is the over-diagnosis destroying the credibility of people with legitimate problems, but I can call you out on being a troll, as full of lies as any of the fakers out there, and try to educate you a little. I leave you with this: We accept that most people are of average mental ability, some people lower, and some people higher, but we have no scientific way of measuring this, only tests/exams which can hardly be called a scientific measure of intelligence, yet we accept people as being smarter or dumber. Do you really think there's no difference anywhere within the brain to explain that? Even narrowing the range to the middle 50%, ruling out all extremes, the only reasonable explanation is that different brains are different and we don't understand why.

    6. Re:Simple Suggestion by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Informative

      My experience (my daughter has ADD) has convinced me that ADD is not a lack of ability to focus, but rather a lack of ability to focus on things you're not interested in or see no point to. My daughter can focus for hours on something she wants to do, like sewing, playing video games, or making videos. The problem is our educational system regards the ability to read and comprehend hundreds of pages of material you could care less about as the highest virtue. Unless you later become a game show contestant, most of the stuff you're required to memorize in school is just useless trivia.

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  2. There's no app for that by Goody · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can't magically change your behavior and habits with a piece of software.

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    1. Re:There's no app for that by Moblaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You can try an add-on like Blocklist for Firefox. This way, you can specify block lists (i.e. "blacklists") of web sites. This won't magically stop you from launching another browser. But it can help with the escapist habit/nervous tic of unconsciously escaping a moment of boredom or difficult by web surfing. At least it gives you pause to think, which normally wouldn't be there.

    2. Re:There's no app for that by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A good manager will terminate him and replace him with someone who wants to work.

      Not to sound like an ass, but I was one temporary covering for a friend who owned a computer shop. Time = money and so many out of work it makes me angry at the injustice when grads work at walmart and the rest watch youtube videos?! I made them work or sent them home.

      I do not have time for babysitting

    3. Re:There's no app for that by wmac1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I use "ManicTime" to track my time. It gives almost accurate account of what I have done on my PC. I have created a few categories and assigned websites / applications/ documents to those groups.

      At the end of the day I can see how much I have spent on work, academic job, entertainment and unidentified. The awareness (of my exact performance) has caused me to focus more and improve the situation. There are other applications similar to ManicTime (I forgot the name) which can additionally block the websites categorized as "entertainment" for example.

      One inportant note is that some of the existing applications upload all your actions to a website and a server side software does most of the job. These applications are the most horrible thing for the privacy. They record all web page you visit, all applications your run etc. I selected ManicTime from among a dozen because it is 100% client side everything.

  3. Confess your lack of productivity by Trip6 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your subsequent unemployment will motivate you to stay on task.

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    1. Re:Confess your lack of productivity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What a bunch of ****es on here. Here we have someone asking for help in staying on task using computer, which DO cause attention deficit, and every post chastizes him.

      There is a real issue here - I've done it myself. Wandering the Internet almost subconsciously as an alternative to doing work. The brain, after millions of years of training to seek stimulating things, is raising stimulating things to the top of awareness. The dog with the fluffy tail in a YouTube video is far more interesting than row 15 of a financial spreadsheet.

    2. Re:Confess your lack of productivity by clarkkent09 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cry me a river. Here is a top on how to avoid watching youtube videos of cats when you should be working: don't go to youtube and don't search for videos of cats. I bet you somehow manage not to go to a porn site when at work and jerk off in your cubicle without help of any software, so just do it the same way when it comes to other distractions. I hate it when supposedly sane people act like they are not in control of their own behavior.

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    3. Re:Confess your lack of productivity by sammyF70 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      part of being older is the realization that all this "work is more important than ..." talk was bullshit and that you should have enjoyed your life and family instead.

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    4. Re:Confess your lack of productivity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      sane people act like they are not in control of their own behavior.

      It is true. Don't pretend you are in control of yourself at all times. While, for now, it is considered the normal thing to do, being a control freak is only being stubborn for the sake of a cultural norm. You see people go slightly over speed limits all the time, you see them smoking, drinking, lying, procrastinating, cheating, jaywalking, ..

      Are _you_ not overweight, speeding, smoking, drinking, lying bastard yourself? Good, I'm real happy for you and imma let you finish but realise that ain't the norm and it ain't realistic to expect people be robots. Flogging oneself for being human is stupid when there could be technical help to overcome that and turn him into the happy-consumer-busy-worker-bee the society expects from us. That is, if one wants to succumb to such a role.

  4. 80% vs 20% by ls671 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Like it or not, you are only productive 20% of the time. It doesn't matter how your work pattern is. So even if you had a single-tasking UI and only kept your main task window open, you still couldn't reach more then 20%.

    You should instead concentrate on being ultimately efficient in that 20%. That's the secret. Sometimes, bright ideas on how to achieve this come to you in the remaining 80% while you think you are not working...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Cray#Personal_life

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  5. Goal setting by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Your mind contains a sophisticated goal setting mechanism (among other features).

    To activate it, write down your goals for the day. If it's important to do X hours of work on a particular task, write that down.

    It's important to write it out longhand - don't type it. No one knows why this is, but I suspect that writing things out longhand rehearses the goal in several sensory modes: you're speaking the words as you write, you're feeling the words as you write, and you're seeing the words as you write.

    Goals should be present, positive, personal, and measurable.

    Positive: positive logic. You can't say "I stop doing XXX" because the goal mechanism is a lower-order mechanism and can't do logical negatives. Say "I *do* xxx" instead.

    Personal: Start the goal with "I", as in "I complete X hours of work".

    Present: Phrase the goal in the present tense, as if you've already accomplished it. "Today I *do* X hours of work on XXX".

    Measurable: Some way to determine that you're making progress. Writing "I purchase a new car" is less effective than "I set aside XXX dollars towards purchasing a car".

    Tape the written goal to your screen and occasionally glance at it as you're working.

    This works for all types of goals - short and long term. So long as they're doable and reasonable, writing them down engages your mental systems to make the outcome happen.

  6. Stop it! by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stop it or I'll bury you alive in a box!

    (I don't make change.)

  7. Re:For Gnome/KDE have a look at 'hamster'.. by chipschap · · Score: 3, Informative

    I second (third, fourth, whatever) the Pomodoro idea. Why? Because there's a built-in reward. You can go do all that goof-off stuff that brings you instant gratification, but you do it for limited, specific times. Building that kind of discipline is easier and more likely to succeed than trying to go cold turkey. 25 minutes on, 5 minutes off; longer breaks after longer periods. Funny how it works. You start to see that you're making progress and you work longer or cut the breaks shorter. Definitely positive feedback in the loop.

  8. If you're a manager by bobstreo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Schedule more meetings.

  9. Edit your hosts file by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's an entry in there that looks something like this:

    127.0.0.1 localhost loopback

    Change it so it looks like this:

    127.0.0.1 localhost loopback slashdot.org

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  10. Strict Pomodoro Chrome Extension by CommieLib · · Score: 4, Interesting

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/strict-pomodoro/cgmnfnmlficgeijcalkgnnkigkefkbhd?hl=en If you don't know what Pomodoro is, check it out - it's exactly for this problem. This helps me a lot.

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  11. Tea by holophrastic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I keep a tall can of Arizona Green Tea with Ginseng and Honey (cold tea, $0.99 each at the grocery store, and they are tall cans 695mL each). I take a sip every few minutes, as one does when one has a drink nearby.

    The result is two-fold. First, instead of alt-tabbing away during natural cagnitive breaks, I wind up taking a sip. That sip ends in five seconds, and I'm faced with the same screen, so I resume the same work. More importantly, very soon my bladder fills up. Turns out that with a full bladder, I push to get one-more-task done before getting up to go to the bathroom.

    The task itself distracts me from the bladder issue, and I wind up on the next task. Then the bladder issue distracts me from the alt-tabbing. Then the task distracts me from the bladder. Then the bladder distracts me from the alt-tabbing. It's circular, and it lasts until the work is done or I really can't sit anymore and the bladder takes over.

    One ninety-nine cent can of this fairly healthy tea tends to get me a good three to five hours no matter what.

  12. You're bored... by evil_aaronm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I speak from experience. Think back to those sessions where you busted your balls for who knows how long, not even stopping for a drink or potty break. You did it because it was interesting stuff, a unique challenge, right? Now, contrast that with your day to day work. Either find the discipline to deal with the boredom, or find a way to make your tasks less boring.

  13. Delayed gratification by jamesh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Depending on your reasons for distraction, you could try delaying the distraction. So you want to check emails or facebook or something, do it in 5 minutes instead of now. Then in 5 minutes review your impulsive decision and see if you can delay the distraction any further.

    Failing that, get yourself a desk with a screen that can easily be seen by others. I'm assuming you work in an office or something here... if you are working from home then your employer has made a foolish decision (self employed or not :)

  14. Your Head Asplode by sqrt(2) · · Score: 3, Informative

    As with many human problems a technical solution isn't always best. The real underlying issue is that our brains are built according to a fundamentally parallel architecture which isn't very well understood. Your consciousness is something like a "software" trick that gives you the illusion of serial operations. You can focus the spotlight of attention on one thing at a time but you're never really doing that, it's just a simulation. Classical computers are the complete opposite--though in modern times we do now have truly parallel CPUs. It's not just technology that's against you, you're working against the nature of your brain.

    Your problem is that you are trying to force your brain to function in a way that it is antithetical to its design on a fundamental level. Doing this for too long causes real and measurable fatigue. If you are finding yourself overstressed from the demand of focusing too intensely on a task you should change your workflow. I would suggest breaking up your time into smaller chunks, maybe of 15-20 minutes so that you are not focused on any one thing for too long. Not every task is amenable to this procedure, so there's going to be time when you simply have to endure.

    You can also set achievable goals and have some sort of metric for measuring and verifying them. Write down that you'll answer X number of E-mails or spend 15 minutes doing that twice a day. Write down a schedule and tape it to your computer screen.

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  15. Chronic Media Multitasking by whydavid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is called chronic media multitasking, and you are not alone (likely a large portion of those calling you a loser and telling you to get over it are avoiding doing something more important). http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2009/08/24/chronic-media-multi-tasking-makes-it-harder-to A single-tasking environment would be helpful, but at what cost? While it isn't good to read your e-mail and surf the net while you are trying to get something done, it IS often useful to look up that related e-mail or useful reference. You might use some measure to block the websites you abuse the most, but who is to say something else won't take their place? What worked for me was simply to recognize and study the problem. Once you see what a common occurrence it is, and how it affects your ability to function even after the fact, it should make it easier to prioritize fixing it. For me that meant hiding most Skype notifications, closing my e-mail client while I worked, and closing out programs that I didn't need for the current task. Your mileage may vary; this is what worked (very well) for me.

  16. Re:termination by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are thief. If I pay you an hourly wage and you goof off (...) because they are committed and work very hard to make sure all goals are achieved and not quit at 5:01.

    Ah, the perfect american style of management, I own you every second of work and if you go home at 5 PM sharp despite working all day then I'm still a bad employee because it's my fault that your ridiculous goals aren't met. I'm so glad I don't live in the US, either you can pay me by the hour and if you want me to work overtime you can pay me time and a half, or you can pay me for performance and butt out of my time management. You want performance even though I'm on the clock? Then give me a performance bonus or I'll be just as slow as the guy in the next cubicle who does less and is paid the same, I'm not particularly interested in your management positions and with enough years of experience on my resume I can probably get a suitably senior position at some other company anyway. The whole "work hard now and be rewarded later" is for young naive fools.

    Oh yes and I've worked a bit with Indians, not Chinese though and while some of them are very bright many of them have simply perfected the technique of looking busy. Much like the Americans who stay 10-12 hours at work to show how much work they're doing it's mostly for show, I'm not worried anyone will replace me on actual performance and luckily there's companies that care more about that than showmanship. But I guess in this respect US managers and Indians catering to US management style deserve each other. Now I try not to really goof off at work but sometimes I've found it effective to take a five minute distraction when I feel heavy-headed and that I'm not really finding the best solutions instead of working two hours on a design only to find out it wasn't all that smart. Many not so great choices now have so much piled on top they'll never be undone.

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  17. pomodoro timer by ckolar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, if you can hold your attention on a single task for a short amount of time then I would try the Pomodoro Technique. I had issues similar to what you describe and this has helped me a great deal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique Briefly: you pick a task, set the timer (the recommended time is 25 minutes), focus on that one thing, and then reward yourself with a five minute break. Reset timer, repeat. It can become game like, challenging yourself to stay on task until you get to the chime, and the 25 minute boundary seems like the right level of challenge versus attainability. Lots of free software/apps out there to help you with it.