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Ask Slashdot: How Best To Set Up a Parent's PC?

CodingHero writes "My mother uses a recent enough PC running Windows XP and has a broadband connection, but her primary method of interacting with the online world remains the AOL software. She also likes to download and use various seasonal wallpapers, screensavers, etc. Usually all this works fine and I don't get family tech support calls, but occasionally something big goes wrong. Since she lives 400 miles away, that means I get to provide phone tech support. While I can usually get something fixed through simple instructions, sometimes it's just too complicated to properly diagnose and explain over the phone (e.g., a trojan infection that anti-virus won't get rid of on its own). I'd like to set up the system so that her account is not an Administrator and that I can easily (and securely) remotely connect to fix problems, install stuff she really wants to use (after proper vetting of course), and so on. Moving to Linux or a Mac is not an option. Upgrading the system to Windows 7 and breaking the AOL habit, while seemingly the best course of action, is going to mean a lot of my time up front to explain how to do things all over again, time that I don't have a lot of right now. Has anyone else had a similar experience? If so, what did you find was the best way to re-educate a parent and/or set up a method to securely and remotely manage a system, or at least lock it down to better protect it?"

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  1. Moving to Linux or a Mac is not an option by dgharmon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "My mother uses a recent enough PC running Windows XP and .. Moving to Linux or a Mac is not an option"

    Why are you asking here and not on a Windows forum?

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    1. Re:Moving to Linux or a Mac is not an option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "My mother uses a recent enough PC running Windows XP and .. Moving to Linux or a Mac is not an option"

      Why are you asking here and not on a Windows forum?

      Because a true nerd is platform-agnostic.

    2. Re:Moving to Linux or a Mac is not an option by acariquara · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just because we are agnostic doesn't mean we don't run like hell away from the Devil.

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    3. Re:Moving to Linux or a Mac is not an option by pipatron · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My thought as well. Seems like the OP goes something like this:

      I want to set up a system where the user by default has no admin privilege, and that can be administrated remotely. Using a system designed for users with no admin privilege and designed to be administrated remotely is not an option.

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    4. Re:Moving to Linux or a Mac is not an option by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not all of us are OS nerds. I code in C/assembler for a living and do electronics as a hobby (as well as model trains). I use Windows because it works well enough and I'm familiar with it. I used to be familiar with AmigaOS and I don't really have much inclination to figure everything out under Linux just because there are some theoretical benefits that don't affect me.

      Actually there are some down sides to Linux too. My mum couldn't get much done and would require even more tech support on Linux. Windows does have some security issues but she has been fine for years with Windows 7, Chrome and Security Essentials. Take your pick, one way or another the support calls won't stop coming.

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  2. Why not linux? by hawguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you're willing to move her to Win7 and away from AOL software, why not just move her to Linux? The best thing I did for my parent's computer (they are 6000 miles away) is to replace their WinXP computer with one that runs Linux that's configured to open a web browser immediately upon startup - no login required.

    The computer also ssh'es to my public server and opens a tunnel back to their computer so I can connect via VNC if needed.

    When they got a new camera, I was able to remotely set up a script so If they plug in a memory card from their camera, it copies the images from the card automatically and uploads to an online photo album.

    This covers 100% of what they use a computer for, and completely eliminated their recurring virus infections.

  3. Linux by Peter+Simpson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know you said it's not an option.

    But I converted my brother and a friend to Ubuntu. Both extremely reluctant to move. So I saved their old Windows hard drive, told them they'd never have to worry about a virus again, and that I would help them figure out anything they didn't understand. It's been a resounding success. Support calls have dropped from several per month to one every six months.

    "downloading seasonal wallpapers and screensavers"

    I can't think of a quicker way to get my Windows system infected. Seriously, if you're going to break the AOL habit, move her to an iPad or Linux. You won't regret it. Actually, you owe it to her and yourself.

  4. Re:One word by rwise2112 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't.

    Have her buy something from Best Buy or wherever, and direct her to ask them for support.

    Seriously, why do you want to be her 24/7 tech support? DON'T DO IT!

    I was going to suggest the same, but then I thought 'he might actually like his mother'.

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  5. Re:One word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll glady be my parents' tech support for as long as they live. Why? Because they were my complete life support for about the first 16 years of my life, setting me up with the opportunities to learn skills I need to make triple my parents' income doing "tech support" for nameless faceless companies like Best Buy. No way in hell am I going to tolerate my own mother to drudge her way through tech support at places like that.

  6. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Getting a teenage boy to stop looking at porn makes no sense. How about you explain to him how to do it safely?

  7. Chromebox / Chromebook by tian2992 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Chrome OS just screams out for usecases like this.

  8. Re:"Not an option" by DutchUncle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just consider, for a moment, that accepting one's parent's foibles is a kindness. Karma-producing, even. Just like not getting upset about baby drool.

    Then remember that the reason this is such an effective infection vector is because there are SO MANY PEOPLE like this. There are entire industries creating wreaths, and window stickers, and seasonal decorations.

    Now go back and attempt to consider the original question with more compassion for the ignorant user, and less snark for the helper. You can count it as your good deed for the day.

  9. Re:Don't by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, I jokingly suggested getting something in trade for my tech support and Mom helpfully reminded me of who funded my college ;-)

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  10. Re:Get TeamViewer by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The one problem I had with Team Viewer (and it was a fatal one) is that it didn't work with the wonky network set up in my mom's assisted living home. It's run by a company that mostly does TV distribution and it's a total fuck up with anything that needs a router or firewall. Can't recall the name correctly, but it;s apparently a popular 'solution'.

    Ended up with an iPad for her which works for 99% of what she does. The tech support issue was solved by giving my nephew another iPad and, as the price of the machine, he's responsible for the occasional physical support calls. This has the added bonus of actually getting him to see his grandmother in person.

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