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Hockey Sticks Among Carry-On Items TSA Has Cleared For Planes

coondoggie writes "As of April 25th the Transportation Security Administration will let a bunch of previously prohibited items such as small pocket knives and what it calls 'novelty' or toy bats to be taken on aircraft as carry-ons. The idea the agency said was to let Transportation Security Officers better focus their efforts on spotting higher-threat items such as explosives and guns."

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  1. I guess that's OK by BenSchuarmer · · Score: 5, Funny

    as long as people still aren't allowed to carry on enough liquid to make an ice rink.

    1. Re:I guess that's OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The international organization for flight standards (ICAO), that the TSA is now coming into alignment with, is based in Montreal. The hockey stick thing makes sense now, eh?

      Of course, I'm now afraid that if a couple of passengers got into a fight, a hockey game might break out.

  2. Why not actually secure airports? by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know, so that a woman can't park in an airline employee lot (which requires going through 2 security gates, one that looks at a badge and one that actually has to scan the airport-issued badge before you can park there), board an employee bus, and get dropped off on the ramp. As someone who works at an airport (actually the same one where all this happened), actual airport security is a joke. It is handled by minimum-wage contractors. I know plenty of other stores of people I've worked with that are even worse than this, but for the protection of them and myself I won't bring them up.

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  3. Let me get this straight by CncRobot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The TSA is now allowing the actual types of things used on 9/11, but still banning shampoo and bottled water?

    If there is ONE THING the TSA should ban is small knives (not that I agree with that), since they are now allowing those shouldn't they just admit they shouldn't need to exist?

    1. Re:Let me get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Matches are allowed, Lighters are not.

      From my time in the Army.:
      On the charter plane my unit was taking all of us had our issued weapons. M4, M249, 240B, etc. They took our lighters away from us because it was against federal flight regulations.

      This happened to me too. The TSA guy says "take off your shoes" and i replied "Dude im holding an M16". Then... took off my damn shoes 0.o

    2. Re:Let me get this straight by cffrost · · Score: 4, Funny

      Lighters are not

      Incorrect.

      Lighters are permitted, just not torch-style, which makes lighting my cigars a little more tricky.

      Tricky? My dear fellow, either type of lighter is perfectly adequate for setting a hundred dollar bill alight, from which all proper gentlemen light their cigars.

      Berkshire Hathaway stock certificates also work well, though I've heard that the uncouth 99.99%er rabble find the practice "obscene." Jeeves is quite adept at tossing them off the clubhouse grounds in short order, so I couldn't say for certain.

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  4. That's great... by evil_aaronm · · Score: 4, Funny

    But I play lacrosse, you insensitive clods!

    1. Re:That's great... by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 4, Funny

      Lacrosse sticks are seriously deadly weapons, but that is mostly becasue they are carried by lacrosse players. Those guys are crazy.

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  5. Canada! by Mullen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn it, now Canadians will be hijacking our planes.

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  6. Better Luggage Handling by lazarus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's face it. The reason people drag all of their worldly possessions with them as carry-on is because we don't trust the baggage handlers to not destroy/steal/lose our stuff. I see this every time I fly. People don't actually want to lug a 49.9 lb wheeled bag onto the plane and then try to find/lift/get help to put it in an overhead compartment.

    The carry-on problem is being caused by the baggage problem. If you solve the baggage problem, TSA security would be checking small handbags or pocket change not hockey sticks, LAN party servers, thirty pairs of shoes, etc.

    Oh, and charging people for checked bags is making the problem worse, not better. What is it about the airline industry that has made every decision maker involved utterly stupid? The only aspect of air travel I can think of that doesn't operate in a wrong-headed way are the mechanics who keep the planes from falling out of the sky.

    {rant/}

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    1. Re:Better Luggage Handling by Amouth · · Score: 5, Funny

      The only aspect of air travel I can think of that doesn't operate in a wrong-headed way are the mechanics who keep the planes from falling out of the sky.

      {rant/}

      Do your self a favor and don't look into that one too much.

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  7. Re:we're nerds by funwithBSD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you can't tell them "This is not the lightsaber you are looking for." and make it it stick... you don't deserve to carry a lightsaber.

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  8. Typical way of taking away freedom by loganljb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a fairly typical way to permanently take away freedom. Take away a LOT of freedom during an 'emergency', then later give back a small portion of that freedom. People will be so relieved by the small concessions that they forget the larger liberties that they no longer enjoy.

  9. The ban on knives was cosmetic at best by Xanthvar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The ban on knives was cosmetic at best, so the lifting of this ban will not result in any decrease in safety.
    Q: "But wait, didn't the terrorists on 9/11 use box cutters to hijack the plane? Couldn't they do it again?"
    A: No. The reason that they were able to hijack the plane before, is the "rulebook" basically said to go along with the hijackers, you fly off to some other destination, there is a negotiation that drags things out, and eventually everyone leaves alive, with stories to tell their grandchildren... Only, on 9/11 they changed the "rules".

    Today, it doesn't matter what kind of weapon is used to hijack the plane, the bulk of the passengers will use whatever is at hand to beat down the hijackers, because they know they are fighting for their lives now, and if you are going to die, you might as well go down swinging. Coupling this with the _1_ security measure that actually improved airline safety, putting locks on the cockpit doors (which does nothing if they don't actually lock them of course), the chance of hijacking a passenger airliner successfully is almost nil. Maybe a small puddle jumper commuter craft composed of all terrorists would be successful, but in that circumstance, they wouldn't need weapons either.

    Yes, someone can still get hurt, and even killed, but you could do that with a pen/pencil or some other pointy object stabbed into the appropriate place. Now maybe someone from the UK will have a different take on this, as they seemed to fear bladed objects, as they appear to be the primary homicide weapon of choice since the general populace doesn't have access to firearms. As an American male, with military training I am not terribly afraid of knives being used to subdue a a plane full of passengers, whoever foolhardy that may be, as I believe that sheer weight of numbers would incapacitate or kill any would be hijacker in this. For most Americans, a knife is a tool, and not a weapon, and while it can be used as such, so can just about anything else, to include bricks, shoes, rocks, sharp sticks, and harsh language.

    Just my $.02 worth.

  10. Re:Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sky marshal's going to have you in the penalty box tout de suite for cracking jokes about security, hoser.

    2:00 minutes for boarding.

  11. Re:about time by SourceFrog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Oh please, it will be "about time" when they scrap the TSA or replace with it something much smaller, leaner, less expensive, and more effective at what it's supposed to do.

    This amounts to little more than a PR move, throwing a few scraps to the plebs to make us somehow feel like 'common sense is breaking out', and it's pathetic that our standards are so low now, that we actually respond like dogs with tails wagging at this incredibly negligibly small change in the grand scheme of the TSA's operations. Will this in any significant way change the fact that they will continue to suck $8 billion a year of taxpayer money to violate the 4th amendment rights and dignity of American travellers? No? Then what is the "about time" that you refer to?

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  12. Re:about time by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You're on the right track.

    Just disband the whole frigging Homeland Security. Put Customs back as a separate and distinct agency, ditto with Border Patrol. Screw the whole Homeland Security thing. It was bullshit when they thought it up, it's bullshit today. Janet Napolitano spends less time worrying about security, than about how to stop "piracy" and increasing corporate profits. She has her TSA agents stopping traffic on Interstate 40, in Tennessee, and shaking them down. Anyone with a thousand dollars cash is a "suspect". Anyone with an expensive car is a "suspect". Anyone who doesn't kiss the TSA agent's ass is a "suspect". I guess this an alternative for TSA agents who don't prefer fondling little children and old ladies in airports.

    Disband Homeland Security, send Napolitano packing, and we can save the fifty million dollars she just wasted on uniforms.

    Odd that most cops have to purchase their own uniforms, but TSA has a contract to buy uniforms for their degenerate agents.

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  13. Re:Oh good by mjwx · · Score: 4, Funny

    And through an odd technicality, English Cricket Bats were never banned.

    Overheard on a recent BA flight into JFK.

    English guy 1: I say old bean, what do you say to hijacking this plane before stumps.
    English guy 2: Oooh yes, and we can fly it into the pavilion.
    English guy 1: Smashing.
    English guy 2: Jolly good.

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  14. Re:about time by stainlesssteelpat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, that's below par logic.

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