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New Pope Selected

Freshly Exhumed sends this quote from CBC: "Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina has been selected as Pope of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics. He will be known as Pope Francis. He is the first Pope from the Americas. The 76-year-old was the runner-up to Benedict XVI during the last conclave. He is well-known for his humility and espouses church teachings on homosexuality, abortion and contraception. He has no Vatican experience."

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  1. Re:So.... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    espouses church teachings on homosexuality, abortion and contraception

    So nothing important is going to change then? Or am i misreading that?

    Well people could choose to stop with the religion thing in response.

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  2. 76? by sycodon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Best keep that straw and chimney handy.

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    1. Re:76? by macromorgan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you want to be Pope someday, you don't elect someone younger than yourself.

    2. Re:76? by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      John Paul II was elected pope at and earlier age and some would say electing a younger pope, means having a pope for a long time. Now the younger pope may be more of a reformist... However he will stay in power for so long, that his reforms will become old, and backwards. Having older popes with a gradual changes could be more productive.

      The big issues is that us Western Cultures have in terms of Sex Rights. (Woman's Rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Contraceptives) Are fairly new (40 or so years old) A younger pope may address these issues... However The way he addresses these issue will stay the same for the next 40-50 years. By that point culture would have changes where that method would seem unheard of. Having an older pope who will last 5-15 years means every new pope will gradually put in new changes.
      In some ways is like having continual obsoleteness in your policy. However sometimes a popular idea at the time turns out to be be a bad idea.

      For example in the United States Bill Clinton Signed the Don't Ask Don't Tell Policy. This at the time was actually considered to be pro-Gay bill. Where it prevent the military from trying to find gay people to kick out. However over time and culture has changed further, the Don't Ask Don't Tell was considered to be anti-Gay and needed to be repealed.
      If we get a young Pope, he may come up with an appropriate compromise solution at the time, then by the time he dies or resigns, the policy is completely outside the change in our values.

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  3. Re:Humility? by operagost · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm curious to hear YOUR definition of humility. Really, I'd like to know.

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  4. Re:Humility? by ranton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being humble, but also believing that your views on how other people should live their lives are so righteous that others shouldn't even be able to decide for themselves, are mutually exclusive.

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  5. Re:Funtastic! by kimvette · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will he: Disawow the insane and puerile dogma of original sin?

    . . . and espouse the good news of salvation by grace which was promised by the one they claim to follow?

    Of course not. That would end Catholic guilt, and eliminate the need for indulgences.

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  6. Re:really, slashdot? by LordLimecat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because it has a substantial impact on the world.

  7. Re:Haters Gonna Hate by hawguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The same people who hated Benedict XVI and John Paul II will hate Pope Francis. How dare he believe in 2000 years worth of teachings about the sanctity of life and marriage being between a man and a woman when it's all so unfashionable?

    Why did liberal atheist's care so much what the Pope thinks. No one is holding a gun to your head to force you to be a Catholic. Why do so many liberals feel threatened by any source of power outside of government?

    Just because something is 2000 years old doesn't make it right. Should we bring back old testament style animal sacrifices as well?

    I have no problem with catholics being anti-gay and excluding gays from their church - if god is not the compassionate and forgiving god that they are always talking about it, well, it's their god and they can believe what they want.

    But where I do have a problem is when the members of the church try to deprive the rights of homosexuals outside of church.

  8. Re:Haters Gonna Hate by Internetuser1248 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually I hate the new pope because I love the bible and believe every word of it. You see the same part of the bible that says homosexuality is an abomination (Leviticus) also says:

    Leviticus 21:20-23 "or who is a hunchback or a dwarf, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles...because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary"

    Leviticus 19:27 "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."

    This new pope wears glasses and is clean shaven, therefore according to the word of god he is just as much an abomination as any gay and he is desecrating the sanctuary of the lord. Stone him to death plz.

  9. Re:So.... by KeensMustard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People believe things that other people don't believe. News at 11.

  10. Re:So.... by buchner.johannes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When have our views on contraception, abortion and homosexuality modernized? In the last 30, 20 and 10 years. Same-sex marriage is still a huge debate. The pope is 76. The pope with a modern view is 20 today, and will become pope in 40-60 years.
    This is not a democracy where you can replace people every 4 years, this is a rigid hierarchical structure of with no balances and 1 billion people. And it is supposed to not change much.

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  11. Re:So.... by femtobyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Our views" (depending a lot on who "us" is; assuming the general European populace from which the uppermost Catholic hierarchy is mainly drawn) on contraception modernized in the 1960s, when the pope was (barely) a 20-something. Since that time, there have only been very small ultra-conservative enclaves (the Papacy among them) in which birth control --- even for married couples waiting for a better time to start their family --- is considered an abomination. The Catholic hierarchy lags much farther behind on these issues than your simple chronological estimates (though not the general Catholic population, which statistically employs birth control as frequently as everyone else).

  12. Re:Humility? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really Slashdot? I get the whole Libertarian "take away marriage benefits from everyone" argument, but did you have to mod up the guy that just reduced gay relationships to the "selfish desires of people in a relationship that is destined to be sterile"?

    I know this place has been going downhill for a while, but I didn't think we'd stooped THAT low. How about we make our arguments without implying that LGBT people should just suck it up, stop being "selfish" and be heteronormative for the sake of the children?