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Where Have All the Gadgets Gone?

waderoush writes "How many electronic gadgets did you own in 2005? How many do you own today? The answer is almost certainly a lot fewer. Counter to the dominant trend in consumer technology since the 1920s — and despite predictions of a coming 'Internet of things' — there may actually be *less* electronic stuff in our homes and offices today than ever before. That's thanks largely to the rise of multipurpose wireless devices like smartphones and tablets, which are now powerful enough to replace many older, dedicated devices like point-and-shoot cameras, music players, digital voice recorders — even whole home entertainment systems. To prove the point, here are before-and-after photos from one San Francisco household (mine) where the herd of digital devices has been thinned from about three dozen, eight years ago, to just 15 today."

278 comments

  1. Trashcan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Where all new gadgets go when they die, the trashcan in the sky

    1. Re:Trashcan by coastwalker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The assertion holds true for the poor and people who are happy to be owned by a corporation. If you are wealthy a separate device still has the better performance - battery life, camera sensor size etc. If you dont want to be owned by a corporation then you probably will be avoiding anything called an "App" or any thing from Apples walled garden iChains. I am on holiday at the moment. I have with me a laptop, cell phone, two mirrorless camera bodies, a high end point and shoot, a IPV67 GPS, an ebook, a Sony mp3 player. To be fair I have stopped carrying around a radio these days, at least a broadcast reception radio because there is usually WiFi in the hotel - but I still have the pair of PMR walkie talkies for places out of cell coverage. I have never had so many gadgets before in my life, the idea of giving up the abilities of all these separate tools for a smartphone with a battery life of less than a day is abhorrent to me. They are all right for youngsters.

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    2. Re:Trashcan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What do you mean by owned by a corporation? Why should owning one device mean you're owned by a corporation?

      Does that mean if you have more devices you're not owned by a corporation and instead owned by more corporations?

      You can always switch to a different multi-use device.

    3. Re:Trashcan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where all new gadgets go when they die, the trashcan in the sky

      That's in China, right?

    4. Re:Trashcan by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What do you mean by owned by a corporation? Why should owning one device mean you're owned by a corporation?

      Does that mean if you have more devices you're not owned by a corporation and instead owned by more corporations?

      You can always switch to a different multi-use device.

      I think he means owned as in pwned. The point being that the cost of switching in both time and money becomes so high that you stay with the company.
      The more DRM'ed software and data you use, or the more apps for which there isn't a port or the API is proprietary, the more you owe your soul to the company (app) store.

      You don't have to reprogram your calendar, re-buy office software, stop playing your favourite game and set up numerous accounts again if you change your camera from company A to B. Unless, of course, that camera is on a mult-function device. Then you have a strong reason not to change your camera, or if you do, stick to the same company. Pwned.
      Doomed to mediocrity too, given that a multi-function device is always a jack of all trades, master of none.

      I like the freedom to choose, and change individual gadgets easily. You don't need the modern day equivalents of TVs with built-in VCRs, and if you think a little ahead, you probably don't want them either.
      You know that guy with the shiny smille and a device that does lots more things than yours does? Don't follow him; he's a Judas goat.

    5. Re:Trashcan by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Doomed to mediocrity too, given that a multi-function device is always a jack of all trades, master of none.

      Part of the difficulty is that they're really a jack of all trades, master of many. I gave away my old point-and-shoot camera, that cost me a few hundred dollars a just few years ago, because the camera on the iPhone gave better results. Not only do the pictures look better, but it automatically tags the photo with positional data, which is something that I specifically want.

      My iPhone is also a great at other things, and I don't think that it's limited to Apple. Modern cell phones do a lot of things incredibly well. Yes, you're forced to do business with a big corporation to have them, but really, what's the alternative that you would advocate? Building your own computers out of sticks and dirt?

    6. Re:Trashcan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The average person really isn't looking hard enough to recognize the difference in picture quality between an iphone and a serious camera. My old digital shoots much better pictures than an iphone, and my girlfriend's 1 year old cheap digital camera also shoots MUCH better pictures, but most of the time nobody's going to notice.

      Examples of where the iphone shines and falters vs dslr:
      http://connect.dpreview.com/post/2863436371/leaving-my-dslr-at-home-iphone-experiment

      A lot of people don't need a camera that shoots in low light, extreme detail, or fast action. I needed to send my insurance company photos from an accident where I was rear ended before, my wife's cheapo digital took perfectly detailed photos in the evening effortlessly, with or without flash. The iphone just left us with a blurry mess, we were grateful to have her camera with us. In another situation I was selling a vehicle and a potential buyer wanted to see the paint quality, the iphone really just couldn't take a good enough picture to handle that. Our 3 year old dslr took wonderful pictures and helped me make a sale in that situation. Finally, I have kids in kickboxing and we all race motocross. Trying to take pictures of any of this with an iphone feels like trying to get a portrait artist to sketch live action. The dslr is a requirement for us to catch any of these moments decently.

      Bottom line: You might not need a "real camera". If you need to take pictures in low light, extreme detail and zoom, or live action you do. If you don't, and you aren't a perfectionist the iphone is actually a better choice for you, and you can always borrow a dslr from a friend for some rare occasion.

    7. Re:Trashcan by Marcika · · Score: 1

      The alternative is having a cheap dumbphone with a walkie-talkie function (nobody cares if it gets lost, battery lasts for a week), having a good camera (with a decent xenon flash that can shoot in the dark), and having a cheap tablet or ipod touch for browsing and gaming, where you don't care if the battery runs down before you arrive at your destination. With this setup you don't lose all your functionality if one device runs down, breaks or gets stolen. You can upgrade each one separately. Most functions are superior to the all-in-one, at a lesser total cost -- but at the cost of added bulk.

    8. Re:Trashcan by Brad1138 · · Score: 2

      What do you mean there is no Robot Heaven?

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    9. Re:Trashcan by thoth · · Score: 2

      Most of that doesn't matter when lined up against the phone's camera massive advantage: it is always with me.

      DSLR cameras do take better pics, but then it's another device I have to carry around. And for 80% of the pics I take, the phone is good enough.

    10. Re:Trashcan by WillKemp · · Score: 2

      It sounds like my Galaxy S3 has a better camera than your iPhone. However, it still only takes good photos in a limited range of circumstances. Or, perhaps more accurately, it takes surprisingly good photos for a limited range of compositions. My Nikon DSLR can take a lot of photos that the phone can't take. It can zoom, for a start. And, because the lens i use has vibration reduction, i can take handheld photos in very low light.

      However, the wide angle lens of the phone can get photos that the Nikon can't get (but only because i haven't got a wide angle lens for it). And the phone can take panoramic shots, which the DSLR can't. In the end though, a good photographer can take good photos with a bad camera, but a bad photographer can't take good photos with a good camera. Have you ever tried taking duckface selfies with a DSLR?

      Most importantly, the phone is always with me - and the best shot is the one you took, not the one you could have taken if you'd had a camera with you.

    11. Re:Trashcan by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2

      I've always loved (D)SLR cameras, but I've found that I miss a lot more pictures if I insist on using them, since there are always times when I don't want to carry all that baggage around. So instead, I use my knowledge to concentrate on getting the best out of my phone's camera. Sure, the hardware has a lot of limitations, but if you pay attention and take a bit of care, you can often end up with pictures that are just as pleasing.

    12. Re:Trashcan by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Just a few years ago, I would have said that the iPod was by far the best portable music-playing device (despite my reservations about Apple and iTunes). And my ancient iPod Classic still beats my Android phone hands down in terms of sheer capacity. But now the phone's music player (in my case, PlayerPro) is vastly superior in every other aspect, and the iPod just sits on a shelf most of the time.

      But I expect it may be a very long time before any other device takes the place of my Sony PRS-T1 ebook reader. There is a point where (at least for reading novels) any improvement on the technology is just tinkering at the edges.

    13. Re:Trashcan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, get a life.... He likes what he has and is happy, You see someone who has different preferences and ideas and you get angry.

      Why would I listen to you?

    14. Re:Trashcan by BevanFindlay · · Score: 2

      DSLR? A decent compact will out-perform a phone camera by miles. We have a cheap-ish Canon Powershot, and the comparison between the shots it takes and any iDevice pictures I see people come up with? Not even close. Anyone with a basic understanding of optics could tell you why, too: lens size. Phone or tablet cameras will always be grainy, because of simple photon count (unless you extend your shutter time, but then you get blurry messes).

      Yes, an iProduct is "good enough" for most people, but that's because most people have a bad eye for picture-taking or picture quality. Some of us have higher standards (and, I'm not even close to being a pro - I leave that to some very skilled friends of mine).

      Maybe it's because I have kids: ergo, everything photgraphable is "live action", and often indoors.

    15. Re:Trashcan by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Except that then you have to carry around a lot more gear, with arguably reduced capability.

      My phone takes better pictures than my canon point-and-shoot from a couple of years ago. My phone integrates my computer's address book with my phone's address book, meaning I can text, call, email, and look up addresses for the same contacts on the same device. A dumb phone can't do that, at least not well.

      Plus, though you can let your camera and tablet run out of battery without losing your phone capabilities, it also means that you have more devices to keep track of the charge for, and more chargers to carry around. Considering my phone's battery lasts more than a day, I don't see why the phone isn't winning.

  2. hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    that dog sure gained a lot of hair while you were losing the gadgets

    1. Re:Hmm. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The "do one thing perfectly" bit works pretty well with software, and in an unlimited or at least "big" environment.

      I don't see how that carries over very well to the hardware in my jacket pocket, though.

      Yes, I *do* quite like having a portable multipurpose device that performs many communications and data retrieval/display tasks acceptably well. I certainly don't want to carry a phone, an e-reader, an mp3 player, and an Internet pad on my morning ride on the subway when my smartphone will let me get phone calls, read my novel, listen to that Sun Ra album I found last night, and check the weather forecast to see if there's a chance the rain will clear out by lunchtime, all in one go.

      But since you've evidently lots of pockets, go right ahead. :)

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    2. Re:Hmm. by Psychotria · · Score: 1

      We have different goals and expectations, that's all. For playing music and looking websites or reading some text, sure lump them together. For other tasks I am going to choose quality over quantity (of features) every time. YMMV :)

    3. Re:Hmm. by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Do one thing perfectly" works well in some hardware, worse in other cases. Cameras are a case where the physics dictates the size of the optics needed for certain capabilities, so to get eg good telephoto capability or good low-light capability one needs a dedicated lens.

      Likewise with printers. Sure an inkjet all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax is nice, but there are still uses for large format printers & scanners, and high-volume copiers. They're just not needed for the average household, so the specialized devices are relegated to the businesses and hobbyists that need them.

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    4. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "The best camera is the one that's with you"

      An enthusiastic amateur photographer might well have an iPhone, a point-and-click and a DSLR. It's fair to guess that the amateur has his iPhone 90% of the time, his point-and-click 20% of the time, and the DSLR and accessories maybe 5% of the time.

      So perhaps the more important question is "what is the sacrifice you are making by NOT embracing multi-purpose devices?". Baby's first smile? "Hang on honey, I'll run upstairs to get my camera bag". Too late.

    5. Re:Hmm. by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      People have always been willing to accept mediocrity so long as it's packaged in a nice, shiny container. Herein lies the great success of many a corporation that has the marketing know-how to sell crap for a decent price. McDonald's, Wal Mart, and yes Apple are just a few shining examples. So while McDonald's marketing will swear you are having a 100% nutritious meal you are not exactly eating gourmet, or even healthy. And McDonald's does billions and billions worth of business every year, because people flock to this kind of stuff, put up with the screaming kids, or the missing stuff in the drive through, or the sloppily assembled burgers that were the best attempt of a non English speaker's understanding of her 30 minute training by another non English speaker.

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    6. Re:Hmm. by massysett · · Score: 1

      The DSLR does you no good if it is sitting at home, as it often will be because it is huge and clunky. The old quip is that the best camera is the one that you have with you.

      Furthermore, the iPhone has a key feature that most camera makers have willfully ignored: network connectivity. It can instantly share photos with other people. This boost of connectivity, combined with a much more convenient form factor, trumps a marginal increase in photo quality for most people.

    7. Re:Hmm. by Sique · · Score: 1

      I always have a point and shot camera with me, and it takes much better pictures than my phone. And interestingly, the camera is the smaller device.

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    8. Re:Hmm. by walshy007 · · Score: 1

      Just bring the dslr with you everywhere, I do with mine.

      The eos 6d has wifi and can upload to facebook etc also. It's a far stretch from phone network connectivity but you can use your phone as an AP if required.

      trumps a marginal increase in photo quality for most people.

      Depends on what you are doing, taking iphone photos at night in ambient lighting is asking for nasty things.

    9. Re:Hmm. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I don't know whether that's universally true. The best photos I have seen were composed, or taken with high quality cameras.

      Sure, if what you want a camera for are mementos and imposing your children on people to polite to point out how ugly they are and that they don't give a shit, carry one with you at all times. Preferably a dedicated point-and-shoot, so you can take pictures even when you're speaking on the phone or the light isn't good enough for a single LED to do the job of a flash. You can even turn them on faster than your camera - no fiddling with unlocking, starting camera app - just shoot.
      Too many things to carry? Priorities, i say. Go put on your jacket, and then empty your pockets on a table. Add a small camera, and see whether it makes an impact. An if so, whether there's something else that can go.

      For other occasions, a DSLR or even a micro four thirds might be better. That awesome falcon sitting on your mailbox might just be a dark blob on your cell phone picture, but might come out quite nicely when shot through a 200mm lens. Hey, even your children too - when you're far enough away that they don't pay attention to you, you can get some awesome shots.

      Looking at my Lightroom catalogs, I can honestly say that more than 95% of my family's best pictures were not taken by a cell phone camera.

      But if it makes you happy....

    10. Re:Hmm. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      The DSLR does you no good if it is sitting at home, as it often will be because it is huge and clunky.

      Come to the dark side. We have micro four thirds and APS-C.

    11. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's pretty easy; I just pick it up. It fits in my purse. I really just pick it up and bring it with me all the time. Funny, nobody thinks my pictures have to be instagrammed to be interesting. Am I shooting Ansel Adams quality photographs? Nope. But it works a hell of a lot better in a bar, at the kids games and whatnot. Yes, that's where I spend my life now.

    12. Re:Hmm. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The large and clunky argument died with the advent of micro 4/3rds. The OM-D with 25mm lens fits in most loose pockets.

    13. Re:Hmm. by webmistressrachel · · Score: 1

      I was going to say "This is why Nikon provide a camera strap" but your comment trumps that, so here's a notification of my fail instead. (whether you wanted it or not!)

      ps silly comment, no Karma Bonus, not Overrated (sick of that Mod!)

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    14. Re:Hmm. by T-Bone-T · · Score: 1

      I completely agree with you but I must point out that cell phone cameras are getting very good. When my parents were visiting my family we went to the zoo and my dad took his DSLR and I just took my iPhone 4S. We took lots of pictures, some of them very similar but it seemed to be a toss of the coin which picture was better. I was pretty suprised, I didn't expect my phone to stack up so well. Plus, iOS 6 let's you get to the camera from the lock screen with a swipe up, so no fumbling there.

    15. Re:hmm. by robthebloke · · Score: 2

      As electronic dogs get older, they generate more static, which makes their hair stand up a bit more...

    16. Re:Hmm. by FireFury03 · · Score: 2

      Yes, I *do* quite like having a portable multipurpose device that performs many communications and data retrieval/display tasks acceptably well.

      Multipurpose phones are nice because you've always got it with you when you unexpectedly need some function it provides. But I don't think they are often a replacement for the dedicated hardware...

      If I'm out and about and unexpectedly want to take a photo then sure, I'll use my phone. But if I was expecting to want to take photos I take my point and shoot camera or DSLR.

      If I unexpectedly need a GPS, I'll use my phone. But if I'm going walking I'll take my dedicated GPS.

    17. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This seems like more of an indictment of your Dad's skills than an endorsement of the iPhone's camera.

    18. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ". Cameras are a case where the physics dictates the size of the optics needed for certain capabilities, so to get eg good telephoto capability or good low-light capability one needs a dedicated lens."

      Well.. kinda sorta true.

      There are some new sensors coming out that can capture more information that traditional CCDs. Coupled with the right software, it's possible to actually change the focus on an image after it has been captured. They generate a heckuva lot more data, even more than a raw image, but it would give a lot of flexibility in manipulating images.

      There are even new ways to post-process images from traditional sensors. For example, some software can exploit the minute jitter in a hand-held photo to generate images at a higher resolution than the physical sensor can deliver. This is *not* the same as interpolation or smoothing, but actual processing of multiple pixels to produce a better image.

    19. Re:Hmm. by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      To a certain extent, yes. With good optics on the DSLR, a phone camera shouldn't be anywhere near as good as the DSLR. With cheap lenses on the DSLR, they're about the same. the problem with using the DSLR as a point of comparison is that most people who buy them these days don't have a clue about buying lenses and just use what it came with, turning it into a glorified P&S camera.

      That said, the optics and CCD's that cell phones are coming with are getting significantly better than even just 2 years ago. The 5MP camera in my HTC One V is easily as good as the Fuji P&S I was using 4 years ago, and it's *significantly* lighter than the DSLR I have. The result? For 99% of the photography I'm doing these days, the phone is good enough. For the remaining 1%, I have a good quality DSLR with good quality lenses, and a good quality tripod. And the One V isn't even a high end phone.

    20. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have had nothing but terrible luck with stand-alone scanners. Then again, I think the last time I owned one was 1997.

    21. Re:Hmm. by Omestes · · Score: 1

      The DSLR does you no good if it is sitting at home, as it often will be because it is huge and clunky.

      Which is why I own a nice mirrorless Olympus EP-3, with a pancake lens. Its pocketable in a cargo pocket, and about as small as older point and shoots, but takes pretty good quality pictures (better than a P&S, but not nearly as good as my DSLR). If I'm going somewhere where I know there will be good shots, I take my DSLR and a case full of lenses, if I'm just out and about I take my mirrorless. My phone doesn't stack up to any of these, and sadly I've gotten a bit snobby with photos, so I can't even stand the look of its pictures. That and it tried to be smart, which often leads to horrible shots (no focus, strange white balances, insisting on flash in mild shadow, etc...). I like my cameras as dumb as possible, within reason, so I have as much control as possible.

      But, for people who just want snapshots, an iPhone (or equivalent) is perfect. I've tried to give my girlfriend an old DSLR of mine, and she refused because she just want to capture shots, and not "do photography". Her old Olympus point and shoot fills her needs perfectly. I on the other hand would never give up my DLSR, and try to carry it everywhere I can, even if it is inconvenient at times.

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    22. Re:Hmm. by AdamWill · · Score: 1

      "A DSLR will produce better photos than your iPhone (or whatever)"

      It's an old point, but a lot of DSLRs produce no pictures at all. They sit on shelves being heavy and bulky at their milquetoast owners.

      I know, cos that was me - mine sat on a shelf not taking any pictures for 8 months before I finally admitted it never went anywhere, sold it, and bought a compact instead...

    23. Re:Hmm. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      And it is also not a DSLR. What was your point agan?

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    24. Re:Hmm. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Used to, and I still love my SD14. Unfortunately, after I've damaged a spinal disc, I cannot carry nothing heavy anymore (it sucks, I used to have 20 kilos in the backpack when hiking) so I had to buy a bloody pocket camera.

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    25. Re:Hmm. by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      However, if you apply the same processing etc to a dedicated camera that has a better lens and a bigger sensor (and more space for a bigger processor and battery) you would get an even better picture.

    26. Re:Hmm. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      People in general use DSLRs to mean "good camera, not point and shoot". With good m4/3rds cameras being way better than entry level DSLRs it becomes a real consideration as an alternative.

      My point is that in reply to the parent there are more options for "gadgets" then iPhone and DSLRs. Cameras that do a much better job than the iPhone yet don't have the problem of being, as the parent put it, "huge and clunky".

    27. Re:Hmm. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      People in general use DSLRs to mean "good camera, not point and shoot".

      If they did that, they would not say "a DSLR is huge and clunky", because DSLRs, in fact, are both, while a "good camera, not point and shoot" isn't.

      With good m4/3rds cameras being way better than entry level DSLRs

      How so? The sensors are very much comparable, the lenses as well. Except there are far more lenses available for any DSLR, be it by the original manufacturer, Sigma, Tamron, or, if you are adventurous, good old M42 with an adapter. The only downside is the size and the weight of course.

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    28. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't have a mobile cell phone, then you really aren't representing most people so not sure what your point is...

    29. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll bet you were comparing shots on the viewfinder or phone screen.

      Yup, the quality of a 3.5-4" screen is awesome even with the shittiest camera.

    30. Re:Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Playing with the Sony RX100 right now. It's pretty awesome and has replaced the Canon S series as my favourite.

      It's stupidly pocketable, and even allows you to adjust aperture and speed during video recording.

    31. Re:Hmm. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Erm. You haven't looked at 4/3rds lenses recently have you? Aside from the Olympus lens lineup almost leaving Nikon and Canon to shame, there's also multiple other manufacturers that produce only lenses for the m4/3rds and 4/3rds (mounted via a spacer ring) system. Then there's also the Sigma and Tamrons who make lenses for any system including m4/3rds. Also if you're really that adventurous the flange to sensor distance of m4/3rds also allows you to mount ANY lens from ANY manufacturer on the camera as well. And say this as a person who's girlfriend constantly steals my Nikkor lenses, though that defeats the size benefit that her camera brings, oh and it looks ridiculous to boot :-)

    32. Re:Hmm. by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Any smart phone has a key feature over a dedicated camera, you don't have to carry the dedicated camera as well. As such habits form, and when you are able to transfer images from 'ANDROID' device to 'ANDROID' so readily (caps to make up for the blatant Apple Ad oh so lame), not only yours but other people's, why bother carrying a camera as well unless you are a photography or video geek.

      Basically most users habitualise to photo and video quality of a typical smart phone and no longer see the need to carry around an additional device. Especially now days when the highest quality smart phones are more impact resistant and waterproof (1m depth ain't quite enough 3m would be better). A lot of it is also about I want it now, take the photo/video, appreciate it now and share it now.

      So smartphone versus camera is not a form factor competition it is I am already carrying the smart phone and that will not change but I must 'Pay For' and carry the camera 'As Well' so am I that much into photography and video.

      As for other electronic device, let's check the big fails, electronically controlled air-conditioning in most regions a must, access controls would be nice, electronically controlled led lighting, an exercise device of some description walker/elliptical, solar panels and battery back up and, a much bigger display device to provide scenery. Not to forget an EV car and charging point. Why does it seem like tech writing is only a part time thing for this guy who doesn't really seem to be all that much into tech.

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    33. Re:Hmm. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      I actually have. Neither Sigma nor Tamron currently make micro four thirds lenses, although Sigma has announced five. But I know Sigma, it can take years from their announce to when they actually deliver, which is sad, because I like Sigma a lot, especially their DSLR line.

      Right now there is available a very... let's say exclusive selection of lenses from Olympus, even fewer from Panasonic Okay, there are also two or so Leicas, a VoigtlÃnder manual focus lens that is crazy fast (f/0.95), and a quaint mirror telephoto.

      Still, it is a cute system, and I wish Sigma would make a micro four thirds version of their DP camera.

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    34. Re:Hmm. by GodGell · · Score: 1

      (Score: -1, WTF)

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    35. Re:Hmm. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Dude, get some counselling already. What a tragic waste of a young life...

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    36. Re:Hmm. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      I don't bother with a dedicated audio device other than the sound system that goes with our widescreen TV--which I do prefer over my phone, tablet, or laptop for viewing films. I also own a couple of 'semi-nice' cameras (a Canon and a Sony).

      Never had any interest in getting a dedicated GPS, as I find that my phone + Google Maps/Earth is already good for 10 metres or so of accuracy, which is sufficient for most of my purposes other than targeting precision strikes from my orbital battle station, which I've not felt the need to do recently.

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  3. "Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Uh? What's going on here?

    Also note the pictures: It seems he changed, not the world in general.
    In 2005 we see a microwave and stuff that seems to be a lot of mobile phones and remote controls. What is preventing him from getting lots of unused mobile phones today? The remotes seem to belong to the stuff below the TV, he got rid of his fancy stereo (with CD-player, amp, loudspeakers).

    Yes, the world changed. Yes, you need fewer gadgets. No, personal experience is not evidence and I think those pictures show only a change in his personality: From a young "I need to have every crap" he went to understanding he does not need every crap. Apart from that, the reduction we see in the pictures is not impressive at all. And apart from that, "personal experience" is no evidence for global developments.

    1. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What's going on? It's a stealth "I love my iphone" story. Nothing to see here, please move along...

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    2. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree... the microwave and rice cooker are not obsolete or replaced by other gadgets, and thus they exaggerate the quantity of items in the first picture.

    3. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      What's going on? It's a stealth "I love my iphone" story. Nothing to see here, please move along...

      So which app replaced his rice cooker?

      "I don't eat rice much anymore."

      Bizzare.

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    4. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Mr0bvious · · Score: 1

      What is the message here?

      Seems like a personal observation of a single household's journey through time...

      Is anyone here surprised that devices have become more functional and taken the place of more specific devices?

      Perhaps I'm just getting old but this feels like a OMG my rock and stick have been replaced by a hammer scenario...

      okay, okay, I'm crawling back under my rock...

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    5. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Losing the microwave is ok takeout food can compensate for that, but I wonder with what he replaced his vacuum cleaner...

    6. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

      sushi chop!

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    7. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Kidbro · · Score: 1

      So which app replaced his rice cooker?

      The exploding battery, obviously.

    8. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by quenda · · Score: 2

      TFA photo caption says

      the herd has been thinned to about 15 objects

      ... I read that as "the nerd hair has thinned ..."

    9. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by robthebloke · · Score: 2

      So which app replaced his rice cooker?

      Like most IT professionals, he's replaced food preparation, with coffee and take away pizza.

    10. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by nine-times · · Score: 2

      From a young "I need to have every crap" he went to understanding he does not need every crap.

      Yes, some of it is probably that he's gotten older, and some of it is a cultural/technological shift that is probably going unnoticed by a lot of people. A decade or two ago, technology was such that you knew you'd "have to buy a new one" within a couple years, because the old one just wouldn't work anymore.

      In the 80s and 90s, a computer from a few years ago wouldn't just be slow, it would be absolutely obsolete. It wouldn't even run new software. And not just "I bought a new game, and I had to turn down all the graphical settings to get decent frame rates," but "I bought a new word processor, and it won't run." As a result, there was a high focus on getting the latest-and-greatest with every possible feature, so as to delay the obsolescence for a few months or a year.

      We may all still like having the latest-and-greatest now, but its far less necessary. You can still use your iPhone 3GS and your Core2Duo laptop. They still work. Now, the focus is less on staving off obsolescence, and more on having the most convenient thinnest/lightest integrates-into-my-lifestyle and simplifies-my-life devices.

      And partially because of improved technology, but partially because there's a demand for it, you've seen more and more functionality pushed into fewer and fewer devices. You don't necessarily need a laptop and desktop and PDA and phone. You have a laptop that can run everything handily, and a phone that includes the PDA.

    11. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      A brush according to TFA.

    12. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although I buy in to the "anecdotes aren't evidence" in general, many times when you get many anecdotes all saying the same thing they do add up to being data (depending on selection bias). But, in this case I would say my anecdote (and from what I read here many others) are directly in conflict with this reduced number of gadgets the summary reports. I have more gadgets, there is no doubt. I have more notebook computers, I have 4 tablets in the house (2 are mine), 1 eReader, my treadmill went from an old one to one with an android panel as the controller and it is on WiFi (so it is now a gadget too), etc. Gadgets probably didn't double in our house, but they sure as hell increased. When I look at my home network map and just glance at the 'pure wireless devices' page, it has 15 devices that are just WiFi. This is a lot more than in 2005.

    13. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by tepples · · Score: 1

      The trouble is that it's also happening in reverse: people are replacing more general-purpose devices with devices that have been deliberately locked down to a curated set of . It happened in the mid-1980s (Commodore 64 to NES) and early 1990s (Amiga to Super NES and Sega Genesis), and it's still happening now (laptops to iPads). It's unfortunately growing more likely over time that a child in the household wants to learn to program a computer, but nobody in the household owns a computer that can be programmed by the end user.

    14. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Egdiroh · · Score: 1

      Maybe he got a tri-vection oven and a sufficiently upgraded stovetop that he doesn't need a seperate rice cooker, and get a much less generic result without out it.

    15. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by owenferguson · · Score: 1

      Nice story, Bro. Unfortunately, it's the other way around. Look at circumcision. Men are here only to be used as sec objects by the women and sent to die in their petty, bitch wars. Real men understand that it's not about subjugating woman; it's about escaping her tyrannical hegemony of bad ideas. Religion? All just solipsistic feminine thinking. Patriotism? Doubly so. Cast off your illusions, mate!

    16. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by owenferguson · · Score: 1

      Thank you for your sig link. As far as I'm concerned, Touch-screen interface is one step below tiny keypads you have to type with your fingers. Aka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ewS9dsCEn0

    17. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by icebraining · · Score: 1

      You can program on iPads: http://twolivesleft.com/Codea/

      I'd prefer if it was free and less limited, but I think it's good enough to learn, and Lua is a much better language than BASIC ever was.

    18. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was searching to see if I should post the very same thing....

      But you already mentioned the thinning hair. Props

    19. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the microwave being a "gadget" that he no longer "needs" was pretty funny. It was also pretty funny how he ignored the fact that it was there 8 years ago, and is gone now. Probably because he didn't want to be called on his bullshit like he is here.

      Nevertheless, this bit is rather telling:

      "Kitchen: I used to have a super-fancy electronic rice cooker from Asia, but I don’t eat rice much anymore. My coffeemaker, which has a built-in digital timer, is my only electronic kitchen gadget now, aside from the built-in appliances."

      It's that last phrase that tells you what happened to the microwave.

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    20. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Jstlook · · Score: 2

      The things I see here is not that he changed, it's that the intent of the photo changed.

      To wit: The first picture? "I gathered every item with a microchip."
      The second picture? "This is what I use in my life now."

      Does that actually mean that he doesn't have those things any more, or that he just doesn't use them any more? That seems pretty darn unclear. If it *is* that he doesn't have them anymore, then props to him. I don't have enough time in my life to purge all the old tech and convert the pertinent info to my new storage systems.
      Not only that, but technology is not just about the microchip - if he has improved his kitchen from the el-cheapo microwave to a built-in convection oven, or whatever - has he truly reduced his microchip count by one? I think not. Did he push his fridge into the shot? No. I'd lay odds if he's redone his kitchen to accommodate a new oven he likely has a pretty nice fridge too (which could easily have a microchip).

      I improved my own home recently, and put electronic thermostats in that enabled me to reduce my energy consumption (and my heating bill) by 30%. Should things like that count? Absolutely.

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    21. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by bitingduck · · Score: 1

      I have *two* rice cookers in the kitchen. And use them both. One's a little tiny everyday one that does about 2 cups pretty fast. The other is a giant steamer/pressure cooker that we picked up cheap at a garage sale for when we're entertaining and need more than 2 cups of rice, or when we cooked some particularly crusty rice in the other one and it's still soaking to get teh crust off...

    22. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Ahhh so he's not just a sensationalistic blogger but and idiot and a grub to boot.
      I'm interested to know how well the brush gets dust out of the carpet he's sitting on. Or maybe after 15 years we're not looking at carpet but rather built up layers of fluff and grime.

    23. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      I agree. He seems to have got rid of a lot of those devices simply because he didn't use them. And not having two smartphones and two DVD players just means he's become less of a hoarder.

      From mu POV, I've lost a separate monitor, keyboard, and webcam. Replaced the DVD player with a blu-ray player. Gained a Wii and its controller. Acquired a laptop, a netbook and a network media player. Potentially I could lose my mp3 player if I chose to but I rather like it.

      One category of chip that I've gained a huge number of is in storage. I own about a dozen SDCards, usb sticks and the like. I also own two USB 3G modems and have a spare mobile phone for the handful of times I visit the US.

    24. Re:"Personal experience as evidence" (and more) by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      But are either of them microprocessor controlled.

      (Seriously - who needs a programmable rice cooker? That's overkill).

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  4. Hmm. by Psychotria · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't even have a mobile (cell) phone. I think my collection of gadgets is about the same.

    Anyway, the more important question is "what is the sacrifice you are making by embracing multi-purpose devices?" A DSLR will produce better photos than your iPhone (or whatever). A point-n-click camera will also. A dedicated scanner is likely to produce a better scan than a scanner tacked on to a printer. I could find examples relevant to the other examples as well but there is no point because they are easy to find. I, personally, would prefer a dedicated "gadget" that does one thing and does it well over a gadget that does many things but with less quality. YMMV.

  5. I guess i'm bucking the trend by Daetrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe some people are choosing to replace game consoles and such with tablets, but i'm not. I've still got a PS3 and a Wii. I've still got a digital camera that i use to take "important" pictures because it does a much better job than my phone. I admit i haven't used my dedicated mp3 players in awhile, but i think that's the only device that's actually been phased out. Of course that only got phased out because i got a smartphone, so that evens that out i guess. And since then i've also added a Nook, a tablet and a Roku.

    Perhaps if you have less electronic devices it's because you decided you wanted less?

    Of course going by the sample pictures it looks like you have a lot of redundant pieces of electronics that i never bothered with. I've had one "boombox" type stereo system pretty much my entire life. No need for separate CD players or tuners, and i've certainly never needed a turntable!

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  6. It's because you buy too much crap by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Troll

    Yeah, my house doesn't look anything like that. I love how the guy just *assumes* that everyone is like him. "How many devices have you dropped?" seems a perfectly reasonable question, when in fact it betrays that he's one of those idiots who just likes buying crap.

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    1. Re:It's because you buy too much crap by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Damn right - every Sun server I have ever owned is still online and serving some random crap except the two that have no public access. And I still use my old phones - except the ones I gave out to friends - who still use them.

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    2. Re:It's because you buy too much crap by peawormsworth · · Score: 1

      Yeah, my house doesn't look anything like that. I love how the guy just *assumes* that everyone is like him. "How many devices have you dropped?" seems a perfectly reasonable question, when in fact it betrays that he's one of those idiots who just likes buying crap.

      Exactly. I cant believe it took this many posts for someone to say exactly what I was thinking. This article has no validity. He is simply stating his personal opinions on how he sees things. And then everyone who bothers to post a response already feels the way he does. Most people simply ignore his post because it doesnt apply and there is no evidence that what he claims is true in general. What a rediculous claim. Where is the real evidence? A photo of his "home" that was obviously staged to gather as many devices as possible?

  7. another thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is equally striking to me from those pictures is just how dominant Apple products have become in the (high-end) consumer market...

    1. Re:another thing... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      What is equally striking to me from those pictures is just how dominant Apple products have become in the (high-end) consumer market...

      High-end? I wouldn't call it that. Middle class - the great masses, more like it.
      Apple don't have many products that compete in the high end, except perhaps for LCD displays. Otherwise it's mediocrity in a shiny package, and no, I'm not trolling. You simply can't compare iPhone earbuds to a nice pair of high end Sennheiser or Grado headphones. You can't compare the iPhone camera to a Leica or even Panasonic. You can't compare even their top computer to an enthusiast PC with dual octacore CPUs, 256 GB RAM and RAID 50. An Airport Extreme isn't exactly in the same class as Cisco/Juniper equipment.
      Apple products in general are solidly mid-range, popular with the masses. Nothing wrong with that, but tone down the oohs and aahs a bit.

    2. Re:another thing... by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

      An Airport Extreme though is one of the most affordable, well-featured Wi-fi base stations you can buy today though. Say what you will about their other products, but I've found nothing which meets those features at that price yet.

    3. Re:another thing... by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      Enthusiast PCs have 256GB RAM now? I really need to upgrade.

    4. Re:another thing... by enrgeeman · · Score: 1

      $180 for an airport extreme. The Asus RT-N66U does all of the stuff I see on the apple page, and is $163 on newegg.

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    5. Re:another thing... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      An Airport Extreme though is one of the most affordable, well-featured Wi-fi base stations you can buy today though.

      And what does affordable have to do with high-end again?

    6. Re:another thing... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Well, 8-slot 128 GB supporting motherboards aren't that uncommon, and at least one 12-slot one supports 192.

      But I guess 256 was an exaggeration - you have to buy a server motherboard for that at present, or wait for a firmware update for 12 slot motherboards to support the larger modules that the 8-slot boards do (at which point they'll support 384 GB).

      16 cores, 128 MB RAM and USB 3.0 is still far more than Apple's best offer of 12 cores, 64 MB RAM and USB 2.0. It might have been high-end a couple of years ago, but isn't now..

    7. Re:another thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well duh.

      All the feature-packed routers you're looking for are significantly cheaper.

      zing!

  8. Single vendor focus by sosume · · Score: 2

    So he went from a lot of manufacturers; Sony, Palm, Dell, Microsoft, etc, to one single electronics vendor, Apple. How do you keep so unbiased!

  9. So you used to have a lot of cool gadgets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ....and now you're just an apple fanboi

  10. One thing by roman_mir · · Score: 2

    One thing I immediately figured out FTFA, don't overlay your photos with stupid transparencies. What, there is not enough space in HTML page? What, we don't have scroll bars?

    I couldn't even bother to read anything below the pictures, which I couldn't even look at because of that stupid transparency layer.

  11. Where Have All the Gadgets Gone? by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where have all the gadgets gone?
    Long time charging
    Where have all the gadgets gone?
    Long time ago
    Where have all the gadgets gone?
    Gone to smartphones, every one
    When will they ever learn?
    When will they ever learn?

    1. Re:Where Have All the Gadgets Gone? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Where have all the keyboards gone, replaced by touch screens, every one
      Where have all the touch screens gone, broken by children, every one

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    2. Re:Where Have All the Gadgets Gone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where have all the keyboards gone, replaced by touch screens, every one
      Where have all the touch screens gone, broken by children, every one

      Where have all the children gone? Grown to soldiers every one.

      (Another coffin came home to my town yesterday.)

  12. Looks like he matured and quit playing video games by ModernGeek · · Score: 0

    and got rid of a bunch of random cell phones.

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  13. Yes, consolidation has happened. by Trip6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your point?

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    1. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by FireFury03 · · Score: 1

      Your point?

      I'm not even sure the "consolidation" that has happened actually reduces the number of devices people have though. Sure, I can now play video on my phone, but that doesn't mean I've thrown out the TV - the TV happens to do the job a hell of a lot better. Whilst I can think of a lot of things I can now do on a consolidated device, I can't think of any of them that have actually _replaced_ another device, other than possibly my smartphone which has replaced the PDA/dumbphone pair.

    2. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by Trip6 · · Score: 1

      I can think of several: hand held GPS, lower-grade instant cameras, lower grade purpose built hand-held games. For anything, if you want the "real thing" (like serious camera resolution and lensing) you will stick with the purpose built device. Or, a GPS device for golfing.

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    3. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer this way.

      If only some companies realized this, their devices would probably actually sell.
      Sony, for example. PS Vita + phone extension = best gaming device there is. Will they do it? Fuck no, because they are stupid.
      Instead they release PS certified hardware for playing early or simpler recent PS games like PS Minis.

      And as much as I hate Apple, they still release dedicated hardware for various tasks and in varying form factors.
      I guess at the silly prices they are, some of that profit goes in to actually keeping such things afloat.

      Both systems can still work together, but for the most part, people are going towards compact multi-purpose designs, even if it means a watch would last a few hours. (still, even I was quite interested in the idea if iWatch, who didn't want to be an ultra awesome spy from the last decade with their watches?)

    4. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by FireFury03 · · Score: 2

      I can think of several: hand held GPS

      Whilst I do use the GPS on my phone a lot, I still have an old dedicated eTrex which I use for walking - the battery lasts a lot longer, its waterproof, the accuracy is better (I'm not actually that bothered about the accuracy, but why is it that my ~10 year old eTrex supports SBAS and I've not seen a single modern smartphone that does?), its generally more robust (IMHO the eTrex is going to survive a drop onto sharp rocks much better than my smartphone with its big glass screen), I don't have to take my gloves off to use it (my smartphone has a capacitative touch screen, so you can't drive it with gloves on).

      lower-grade instant cameras

      I still have a separate point-and-shoot camera (Canon Ixus) - the phone doesn't come close because it only has an LED flash, doesn't have a viewfinder, doesn't have a lanyard, has a much worse battery life and is probably a lot less robust to knocks and drops. I also have a DSLR, which can't be replaced by a phone. Despite both my DSLR and point & shoot cameras having a much lower pixel count than my phone (which idiots seem to use to indicate the quality of camera), the photos they can produce in a wide range of conditions are much better than the phone. The phone's camera is good so long as you're taking photos in bright daylight and don't want to zoom.

      lower grade purpose built hand-held games.

      Not something I've owned since I was at school, so not something I'd consider my phone having replaced.

      For anything, if you want the "real thing" (like serious camera resolution and lensing) you will stick with the purpose built device. Or, a GPS device for golfing.

      As I said, I can think of a lot of things that have been integrated into devices like smartphones, but I can't think of anything that I've actually replaced because of this. The smartphone integrates lots of functionality, but none of it is anywhere close to the dedicated devices, so it gets used only when I don't have the dedicated device with me - if I already know I'm going to need something (say, GPS or camera) then I take the GPS and camera with me.

    5. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by Sique · · Score: 2

      I actually have thrown out the TV. It's just a large, clunky object in the room. I never owned an MP3 player though, so nothing to throw out there. I put the navigation device to rest and am using my mobile with a navigation app. My children still have their diverse gaming consoles. So I am now down two gadgets. It might increase again, because I am currently pondering buying a 3D printer.

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    6. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lower grade purpose built hand-held games

      You realize that Sega has been out of that market for decades, right? :P

      Joking aside, just because a device only does one thing, if it does it better than the "replacement" multi-function devices, I'd hardly call it "lower grade".

    7. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      Well, I use my TV as a monitor. And I pretty much always watch on-demand stuff now rather than linear broadcasts. A TV card in my computer replaces a video recorder.

      My phone has replaced my watch, my alarm clock, my diary, my address book, my collection of pocket maps, my news paper, my radio (mostly pre-downloaded podcasts rather than streaming), my music player and my camera. I do have an SLR camera for taking proper photos, but I use my phone for point and shoot. Within the next few years it will likely replace my travel card and my credit card.

    8. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, a GPS device for golfing.

      ??? You can get lost on a golf course?

      Who knew?

    9. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by LiENUS · · Score: 1

      How do your children play their gaming consoles without a TV?

    10. Re:Yes, consolidation has happened. by Sique · · Score: 1

      The 3DS comes with its own screen, and the Wii, they play on my computer monitor (with a SCART-to-VGA converter).

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  14. 24 by dohzer · · Score: 0

    Lullz, 24 is on TV. How embarrassing.

  15. Microwave, bread maker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take out the specific ones, microwave, breadmaker. He replaced his TV. His video cameras now seem to be one video camera. The computer is different, the CD player and MP3 player, he's dropped the CD player as many of us have. He's ditched the calculator, but I went back to owning one, after a period of using my phone as a calculator.

    But in my household there's a wealth of new specific computer devices.

    1. The house now has a Network attached RAID/ Media Server +1:
    http://www.zyxel.com/us/en/products_services/nsa325.shtml?t=p&tabOrder=3

    2. A wifi router +1

    3. A media player for the TV + 1 device:
    http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/OPlay_Mini_Plus_Netflix/

    4. Surround sound speaker system, device, it replaced the DVD player, since it also contains a DVD player. +1 -1

    5. We have two Android tablets added, 2+ more devices,

    6. And a laptop, which will probably be the next thing to go

    7. Cameras? Well I tried and failed to make do with a phone, so I bought a Nikon with a decent lens. Then another waterproof camera for snorkling, I ditched an old digital IXUS so I'm up one camera.

    So overall, we have more devices than ever. The smartphones are really no substitute for a good lens camera, and they're no substitute for a decent waterproof rugged camera. I find I like privacy, so I keep separate devices for separate uses. So I don't let the Android devices have photos or phone access, and don't buy camera with Facebook features.

    Now that TVs are thinner I think I want one in the bedroom, so that might get a TV and media player too. +2

  16. True by lennier1 · · Score: 1

    Tools have become more efficient. News at eleven!

    1. Re:True by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Funny

      Does his Macbook run hot enough to replace his microwave?

    2. Re:True by lennier1 · · Score: 1

      Don't know, but there was a time when Israeli soldiers even used them for target practice. ;)

    3. Re:True by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Depends. Does he plan on making grilled cheese sandwiches?

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  17. Good Enough by spike_gran · · Score: 2

    In the TFA, he speculates that these multipurpose devices are now "good enough" to suit most needs, and I think that is true, But it is true that the quality of our audio and video experience seems to have gotten worse of the last couple of years.

    When it look at the pictures, or listen to the audio generated by the phones and tablets, or watch the video. It works, but, it just isn't very good.

    What's happening is that the middle layer of high-end consumer products are just vanishing: everything is either multipurpose devices or pro devices.

    For me, anyway, I still use digital camera and I still use dedicated audio that I used to play CDs and records. I'm a grumpy old man, I guess, but, it sounds better.

    1. Re:Good Enough by Sique · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In the TFA, he speculates that these multipurpose devices are now "good enough" to suit most needs, and I think that is true, But it is true that the quality of our audio and video experience seems to have gotten worse of the last couple of years.

      Hm. This is the oldest complaint about home entertainment devices ever. If it was true, we would have the worst audio and video experience today since the advent of the videobox (Dickson 1891) and the phonograph (Edison 1877). But actually, the experience became better, we are just so used to the quirks and specialities of the devices of our childhood, that we miss them in more modern equipment.

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    2. Re:Good Enough by arth1 · · Score: 1

      we are just so used to the quirks and specialities of the devices of our childhood, that we miss them in more modern equipment.

      My 6 year old cell phone has a camera with a mechanical zoom, augmented by a (horrible) digital zoom.
      My new one doesn't zoom at all.
      Is that a quirk, or just that it's too complicated for the masses?

      My old stereo had a 10-step equalizer for each channel. My new one has a 5 step equalizer for the entire system. Again, I think it's simplified for the masses, with "good enough" being the factor, not "improved".

      For many if not most people, convenience and price trumps quality. MP3s sure are more convenient than SACDs, but that doesn't imply that the quality has gone up lately. High-hats still sound like a bag of broken glass.

      It all boils down to consumerism - you produce something convenient enough for the consumer to want over what he has, at the lowest quality goods a consumer will buy and command he highest price he's willing to pay.
      As long as it's good enough, cheap enough, convenient enough, you will make money and the consumer will be happy as a pig in shit. And the world will go on, but not necessarily forwards.

    3. Re:Good Enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the TFA, he speculates that these multipurpose devices are now "good enough" to suit most needs, and I think that is true, But it is true that the quality of our audio and video experience seems to have gotten worse of the last couple of years.

      When it look at the pictures, or listen to the audio generated by the phones and tablets, or watch the video. It works, but, it just isn't very good.

      What's happening is that the middle layer of high-end consumer products are just vanishing: everything is either multipurpose devices or pro devices.

      For me, anyway, I still use digital camera and I still use dedicated audio that I used to play CDs and records. I'm a grumpy old man, I guess, but, it sounds better.

      I suppose it depends. The video quality of my 7-inch tablet blows away an NTSC picture in a heartbeat. Likewise for mpeg versus VHS.

      It really is good enough for a lot of people. Their preference for MP3's over higher-quality audio is a good indication. The limiting factor for most portable devices isn't the audio hardware as much as it is what's being played on it.

    4. Re:Good Enough by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Is that a quirk, or just that it's too complicated for the masses?

      If you spend the same amount installing a higher-resolution sensor that you would implementing optical zoom, you don't have to zoom, at least in a cellphone. And zoom takes up a lot of space.

      My old stereo had a 10-step equalizer for each channel. My new one has a 5 step equalizer for the entire system. Again, I think it's simplified for the masses, with "good enough" being the factor, not "improved".

      Sure, that's true. But today parametric EQ is relatively inexpensive, and once you had to use more primitive types because it didn't even exist..

      For many if not most people, convenience and price trumps quality. MP3s sure are more convenient than SACDs, but that doesn't imply that the quality has gone up lately. High-hats still sound like a bag of broken glass.

      You can still buy a CD, or in some cases a record.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    5. Re:Good Enough by Sique · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The equalizer is a prime example of what I am talking about. You know, why it is called equalizer? Because with analog equipment, each frequency is slightly differently handled, some frequencies are higher amplified than others, and some are more muffled than others. With the equalizer, one can make it equal, amplifiy or muffle the different parts of the audio band to have the differences ironed out. For some general degradation of the overall signal quality, you bought a quite uniform handling of the frequencies.

      All the different audio types had different head curves. A turntable was different than an ultra-short wave radio, different than a ferro-magnetic tape or a chrome based magnetic tape. To connect them together, you needed an equalizer to adapt the different head curves to better fit together.

      With digital equipment, the need is gone. The signal gets digitalized once at the source, and then it is handled digitally until the final amplifier, where a DSP creates a new analog signal from the digital version. Each bit is threated the same, so no need to equalize it somewhere in the signal path. Differently than in analog times, where we had a signal-noise-ratio of about 60 dB (or less, depending on the equipment), now the signal has 96 dB. There is only one part we have to slightly equalize, that are the actual loudspeakers. For that, a 5-way-equalizer looks quite approbriate. Everything else is overkill.

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      .sig: Sique *sigh*
    6. Re:Good Enough by FireFury03 · · Score: 1

      If you spend the same amount installing a higher-resolution sensor that you would implementing optical zoom, you don't have to zoom, at least in a cellphone. And zoom takes up a lot of space.

      Conversely a higher res sensor reduces low light performance, so isn't always a good plan (but I've never come across optical zoom in a cell phone, and imagine it takes a fairly huge amount of space).

    7. Re:Good Enough by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Conversely a higher res sensor reduces low light performance, so isn't always a good plan

      It does, but a) cellphones have LED "flash" lights on them now, and b) while you can't get the same quality as by having less pixels in the same size sensor, you can still mitigate the problem by averaging neighboring pixels, and cellphones people are using to take photos now typically have at least one core at 1 GHz even for a budget model.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    8. Re:Good Enough by makomk · · Score: 1

      Most of those different equalization curves were handled at the source, though. Tape players and phono pre-amps had hardwired analog equalization circuitry that provided the necessary frequency response.

    9. Re:Good Enough by FireFury03 · · Score: 1

      a) cellphones have LED "flash" lights on them now

      Which are utterly useless compared to the xenon flash tube you'll find on even the cheapest, oldest point & shoot...

      , and b) while you can't get the same quality as by having less pixels in the same size sensor, you can still mitigate the problem by averaging neighboring pixels

      Which makes the zoom useless... Great :)

    10. Re:Good Enough by Sique · · Score: 1

      Yes, most of the multi-way equalizers were of the "this amp goes to 11!" variety anyway. They were there to look impressive and professional, without actually helping to improve the audio experience.

      --
      .sig: Sique *sigh*
    11. Re:Good Enough by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      Bullet Points.

      Years ago, an integrated amplifier was more salable if it had a ten band equalizer. Now, it's more salable if it promises network connectivity.

      It's the up model equivalent of "two-pronged wall plug, pre-molded hand grip well, durable outer casing to prevent fallapart..."

    12. Re:Good Enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make a couple assumptions. 1) The tone balance of the source should NEVER be changed. Maybe I don't like it, which leads to 2) The human ear is not identical person to person degrading with age (as well as abuse). Maybe running the source through a multiple channel equalizer improves the overall experience.

    13. Re:Good Enough by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      I don't think they even make SACDs anymore. They died because sitting down to listen to music died.

    14. Re:Good Enough by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      audyssey is still around.

    15. Re:Good Enough by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      Is Nokia's Pureview any any good? in that scheme, zooms are simply crops of a 41 megapixel shot.

    16. Re:Good Enough by arth1 · · Score: 1

      The main purpose of an equalizer is to make the tone curve more flat despite the non-uniformity of speakers, rooms and ears. One of my speakers is closer to a corner, and reflects more bass than the other. And my two generation old ears don't hear treble as well as they used to. And the speakers themselves have a far from flat frequency response, especially in the crossover segment between midrange and tweeters.

    17. Re:Good Enough by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Well, a digital zoom (crop + expand) doesn't let any more light in for the selected view, for one thing..

      The biggest difference in quality with newer mobile phone cameras is perhaps for front-lit pictures, as there is neither an optical zoom that can exclude bright areas you don't want, nor a mechanical aperture that restricts the light and increases the depth-of-field.

      Megapixels doesn't make up for a lack of optical quality. I'd much rather have a 4 MP camera with decent optics than a 32 MP camera with next to no optics.
      .

    18. Re:Good Enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, no.

      The tone knob (remember those?) served the function you are talking about, and that was mostly variances between listening to the radio and actual hi-fi equipment. Radio is compression, and tape and vinyl sources already have their eq curves built in (you are familiar with RIAA eq and the difference between high bias and normal bias tape?).

      An equalizer was to sort out variances caused by the room, and guess what? Rooms haven't changed that much, even though small room acoustic treatments are starting to gain ground (even today) to effectively replace what an equalizer once did.

      And for a while, it was a fad to up-sample digitized sources (effectively redigitizing them), but the availability of 24/192 bit sources is rendering that dead, You have a copy that is equal to the source material. Do you favor keeping the signal unadultured, or do you risk creating artifacts compensating? Let me direct you to the multitude of theories regarding digital filters.

      You have a five band eq because it is cheap and easy and good enough, and you are too young to have heard how acoustics have progressed. Things are somewhat better now, but in many ways worse. And guess what? Digital room eqs are just waiting to be cheap enough and easy enough to calibrate to be adopted in mass (can you dig it? Digital parametric eqs,, because it's not just having 5 bands, but which 5 bands that matters.).

      Your ears are always analog.

    19. Re:Good Enough by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      My 6 year old cell phone has a camera with a mechanical zoom, augmented by a (horrible) digital zoom.
      My new one doesn't zoom at all.
      Is that a quirk, or just that it's too complicated for the masses?

      Chances are your new cell phone camera outperforms the old one by enough that you can get better pictures through cropping than the old one could with optics. "Digital zoom" itself is nothing but cropping. If your new phone is a smartphone it's almost certain you can get a photo editing app and "digital zoom" to your heart's content. If not, you certainly can on your computer.

    20. Re:Good Enough by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      They died because they were a ploy to sell music to audiophiles.

      SACDs didn't have any audio quality advantages over regular CDs, and actually some disadvantages, plus they were horribly expensive.

    21. Re:Good Enough by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      It's about as good, with a little more flexibility, than a regular fixed focal length cell phone camera. It doesn't compare to a camera with equivalent electronics and optics but with a real optical zoom.

    22. Re:Good Enough by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      The Rolling Stones SACDs were quite reasonable.

    23. Re:Good Enough by youfail · · Score: 1

      Yes and no. Equalizer use is dictated by the equipment and space. It is not just used for flaws in signal handling, but eliminating or elevating frequencies that are causing trouble or not being played back loud enough in the room, Different speakers also have different characteristics on certain frequencies and volumes. In some spaces the sound might be just fine, in others you have to eliminate frequencies that cause resonation with elements in the chosen space. Most highend systems do hidden EQ changes that are not configurable to compensate for the actual speakers and amplifiers. If you have a decent soundsystem, the EQ can be the difference between a really shitty playback compared to a really good one. Atleast if you play music really loudly OR silently. And i omitted all the live playback situations (monitor speaker/microphone feedback etc)

      --
      People who have a clean conscience are happy. People who don't have a conscience are the happiest motherfuckers alive.
  18. Where has all the hair gone? by rizole · · Score: 1

    Have you similarly gone through a process of folicle consolidation?

  19. The author is wrong by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've just purchased two old Casio organizers via E-Bay and a calculator! This proves conclusively that the author is wrong.

  20. Geeks, don't throw out stuff . . . they hoard. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

    It can be old, broken and useless . . . but a geek will still hoard it. Every geek has a drawer, a box, a closet, or a garage stuffed with useless stuff. There just might be some possibility that it will be good for something in the future. Maybe the Zombie Apocalypse will infect Ethernet, so I will need that PCMCIA Token Ring card?

    Every time I go digging for something it's like a Computer Archeological Wonderland. Wow! BASIC programs on paper tape! The old HP 41C calculator!

    I never own less gadgets . . . just more. Where have all my gadgets gone? Who knows. But they are around here somewhere, and can find them if I look hard enough.

    --
    Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    1. Re:Geeks, don't throw out stuff . . . they hoard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Being a geek does not imply hoarding stuff. On the contrary, everything that can be transferred onto newer media and emulated, should be, in my opinion. Turing is god. Old hardware is often faulty, unreliable and takes up physical space. I play old DOS games much more often now that I have Dosbox set up. I don't think I'd ever bother playing them if I had to specially make the effort of switching from my usual environment to the "retro" PC. And once you've got your old data and games on a modern PC, it's so much easier to keep them backed up forever.

      Hoarding old hardware does not make any sense. I hate old hardware. I lived in that era, and I always hated the limitations and crankiness of the hardware of that age. Hoarding is a sickness. It does not confer you any geek credentials. You are nothing but misguided.

    2. Re:Geeks, don't throw out stuff . . . they hoard. by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 1

      I actually don't horde.

      I put my shit up on ebay - preferably sooner rather than later whilist it still has value - and sell it all for $$$ which I can spend on newer toys!

      I always sell my current model phone to get the latest model for example. Thought I have a lot of crap still sitting at both my parents houses back in Australia I need to get rid of one day.... but I never never visit for more than a few days so it never happens. Oh well :)

      --
      You can tell how powerful someone is by the magnitude of the crime they can commit and be able to get away with.
    3. Re:Geeks, don't throw out stuff . . . they hoard. by houghi · · Score: 1

      No, not all geeks, just some.
      I trow out everything that I have not touched in a year. I used to keep everything, but then I realized that there is so much more space available when I just trow things out.

      Sure, I still have a bit of backup stuff, but do I really need that much cables? I just trow them out the moment I have not used them for a year.

      Yes, it has happened that I had to buy a new cable of the identical type I threw out a few months earlier. That is 5 EUR I happily spend. That 5 EUR was meaning less to me then the time I would have needed looking for it.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    4. Re:Geeks, don't throw out stuff . . . they hoard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "I actually don't horde."

      Well that's good to hear. How do you dress for the modern horde anyways?

    5. Re:Geeks, don't throw out stuff . . . they hoard. by amirishere · · Score: 0

      My mum keeps telling me to clean the far end of my bedroom. I keep declining. I am happy that I am in good company here. :)

    6. Re:Geeks, don't throw out stuff . . . they hoard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm the same way. Which explains why I have 20 PCs in my basement!

    7. Re:Geeks, don't throw out stuff . . . they hoard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is useful.
      Latest was when I replaced the inverter board in a big LCD TV. The connector was burnt to a crisp and firmly stuck to the board.
      However, I was able to MacGyver a new one out of two half as big ones from a LCD projector I slaughtered a few years back.
      Best one is magnet wire from a washing machine my father and I slaughtered when I was a small kid. I still have it on a roll, and it's still useful.

    8. Re:Geeks, don't throw out stuff . . . they hoard. by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      I, on the other and, like old hardware. Why emulate a DOS game if I can play it on a 286 (or, for newer games, on a PC with 900MHz CPU)? Why patch the game to run on Windows XP or 7 if I can play it on an older PC with Windows 98?

      I like the hardware that I can repair without buying really expensive tools, like a 1GHz scope. I listen to music played on a record player, or a reel to reel tape deck, or a cassette deck, or laserdisc player (that can also play CDs) or MD or my PC... To me, playing a tape on an old tube tape deck adds to the enjoyment, even though the sound quality is worse than what I would get playing the tape on a newer tape deck.

  21. so your an Apple Fanboi. by ferret4 · · Score: 1

    judging by your current list, if Apple had bought out a robotic vacuum cleaner I'm guessing you'd have 1 more appliance still.

    Got rid of your Kindle because your iPad has the Kindle App? Please, you either don't read much or you prefer ruining your eyesight on back-lit displays.

  22. What about his microwave? by paradigm82 · · Score: 2

    Where has the microwave gone? I'm not aware of any technological developments since 2005 that has "converged" the microwave into any other device. Also, none of the devices he displays in the 2013 seems able to displace a microwave (unless there's some new app I'm not aware of). Hence, we must conclude that this article merely represents the lifestyle choices made by this particular person, with no relevance to the rest of the population.

    1. Re:What about his microwave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's probably a microwave simulation for the iPad. An app that shows something being cooked. Yum.

      Still, how does he vacuum his floor with the iPad (replacing the roomba)?

      The one thing that looks a lot more electric is the dog.

    2. Re:What about his microwave? by Teun · · Score: 1

      Where has the microwave gone? I'm not aware of any technological developments since 2005 that has "converged" the microwave into any other device.

      He does not consider his new wife as a gadget.

      See the grey hair, he got married and she told him to get rid of the junk.

      --
      "The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
    3. Re:What about his microwave? by gwjgwj · · Score: 1
    4. Re:What about his microwave? by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      You don't need a microwave. Either you call up the centralized reheating plant food delivery service on your mobile, or you go all artisanal and shit, and have a fancy antique coal stove.

    5. Re:What about his microwave? by GWRedDragon · · Score: 1

      He also doesn't use an alarm clock or a watch anymore, despite the fact that cell phones in 2005 were just as capable at displacing those functions as they are today. He simply chooses not to use them now.

    6. Re:What about his microwave? by RR · · Score: 1

      Where has the microwave gone? I'm not aware of any technological developments since 2005 that has "converged" the microwave into any other device.

      He updated the post to say that he still has a microwave; it has converged with the wall. So he's not able to pull it out for the photo shoot.

      This is important. Mature technology becomes invisible. The microwave is not gone; it's part of the wall. The Internet adapter is not gone; the DSL modem has been replaced by the Webpass router in the apartment building's wiring closet. And we are gradually getting more of this, like networked lights and programmable washing machines.

      --
      Have a nice time.
  23. In other news... by cpicon92 · · Score: 1

    This man no longer cooks rice or uses a microwave, and his hair has gotten much grayer.

  24. Yes consolidation - and now when one gadget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dies?

    Your life is completely shut down.

    As an experiment, he should lock his single iPad/iPhone in a metal box for one day and see how "productive" he is...

    He's not being very "smart" about his entire life being dependent on some (one) company. Maybe this is why so many nerds are democrats - they're already dependent on the government, so they're okay with depending on just one company for their livelihood.

    "Two is one and one is none"
    "Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it"

    1. Re: Yes consolidation - and now when one gadget... by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Everyone is dependent on the government or did you think the army is just a group of concerned citizens or contract law came about through the generosity of the wealthy? I get that you want to be dependent on luck for your health and well-being but sane people realise a safety net is as good an idea as everyone being taught how to read and write.

    2. Re:Yes consolidation - and now when one gadget... by cjjjer · · Score: 1

      Personally it has less to do with consolidation and more with priorities. Let's face it when you are in your 20's or 30's you might be more willing to buy toys or gadgets just for the cool factor but once you get older and have kids and more responsibilities that often falls to the wayside. I am pretty sure that he didn't consolidate his game consoles for anything other than he is older and lost interest in shooters and other types of games that require an investment of time, now simple puzzle games and such are his focus.

      My 2 cents

    3. Re: Yes consolidation - and now when one gadget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more people have died of democide in the last century then of wars, more people have died because of either of those then from all the non-government serial killers combined from all times.

      centralised authority is often a practical solution in the shorter...
      BUT if history proves 1 thing, it's that any position of power that exists long enough will sooner or later (and usually sooner) fall in the hands of powerabusing asshole.

      Longterm government is NOT your friend, it's the biggest danger around

  25. Lazy and stupid consumer... that's all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As mentioned before... there is no middle, 'Pro-sumer' grade gear now a days. You either spend for the high level equipment (DSLRs, $800 tablets) or you wallow in the consumer grade 18 month turnover garbage (Kindle, smartphone).

    As for the authors 'thinning'... no. More like he simply got rid of redundant crap. Does a remote control count as 'tech'? 3 phones?

    He still has a t.v. that, while multi purpose (has internet, AV inputs, stereo) he also still has multiple internet access devices (what? the t.v. interface not good enough you still need a table, PC and smartphone? Pick one! Remember gadgets are getting BETTER).

    Crap articles like this simply mad the internet a sad place where any semi random though can be considered 'information'.

  26. I have more devices than in 2005 by loufoque · · Score: 1

    I clearly have more electronic devices than I did in 2005, all of them are really useful and there is very little redundancy.

  27. "To prove the point" by Little_Professor · · Score: 1

    "To prove the point, here's an anecdotal based on a sample of one (myself)" I don't think proof means what you think it means

  28. But you haven't changed too, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know about you, but I think that between the age of 35 and 47, I shed a lot of gadgets because I was no longer fixated on them and realised I got more pleasure making a decent loaf of bread than having racks of whirring AC-powered gear in my closet, idling.

    (Still have a corridor-of-death that has them all stacked in, gathering dust. Just in case the 88GB SyQuest external makes a comeback etc.)

  29. Personal choice by cuby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The change from some Bang & Olufsen speakers to the earbuds was a real winner... Most of his choices revolve arround the adoption of Apple products.

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    Math is beautiful... e^(pi*i)+1=0
    1. Re:Personal choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I especially like the fact that he threw out his freaking record player. Yes I know the sound degrades of time, but to throw out a working device is just freaking wasteful. The article should be entitled "where has all this eWaste come from".

    2. Re:Personal choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's a fucking record player. The format is mostly dead beyond some misguided fashion/decorating choice by hipsters. It's more about being seen with a record player than the fact that a record player is in any way necessary.

      I threw out a working record player with an 8 track system over 15 years ago. Even then it was just cruft.

    3. Re:Personal choice by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Yes maybe when they come out with an iMicrowave he can start eating warm food again.

  30. Who cares about the rest of those gadgets... by jpatters · · Score: 1

    That is one awesome robot dog he's got there!

    --
    "Remember, there never were pineapple-almond cookies here."
  31. Fewer but better devices... by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

    ~10 years ago I wrote on slashdot that I couldn't wait until my PSP/GPS/Phone/Point & Shoot/MP3/FM radio were a single device... that has now been achieved in spades.

    Basically I've culled my setup down to a smart phone, a tablet and a DSLR.

    --
    Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
    1. Re:Fewer but better devices... by loufoque · · Score: 1

      No it hasn't.
      A touch-based smartphone is a joke compared to real handheld gaming device.

  32. Gadget nerd here with Palm T3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just because things have become more convenient, it doesn't mean old gadgets should be thrown out. Unless you absolutely need to switch to something multi-purpose like say... if you need mobile internet for work, well -- getting a smartphone is a good choice. So then you can get rid of your alarm clock, your mp3 player, and your palm pilot. But, old electronics need some loving too.

  33. A trend? I don't think so Wade. by tconnors · · Score: 2

    OK, so he doesn't like good sound quality, so he got rid of the decent speakers and replaced it with Apple rubbish (that sound good to bad ears because they've just turned up the loudness and done wacky artificial things to phasing of the stereo signal). And same with cameras (personally, I think people who publish photos taken with an iphone should be shot for polluting the flow of electrons with their crappy photos). Where did his microwave go? Does he entirely eat out now? Concrete floor? Sounds lovely.

    Heck, I still go on multiday tours on motorbike (with not much spare room besides my tent and sleeping bag) with SLR and second lense *because it produces better photos*. It's a pity a lot of people don't care about quality anymore, but some of us still do.

  34. so you're a bell-end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The contraction of "you are" is "you're", it's not difficult.

  35. Canine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your dog's gotten a lot bigger, too, and changed his furstyle.

  36. Oh, the paradox! by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    To prove the point, here are before-and-after photos from one San Francisco household (mine)

    But, but, I have more gadgets than I used to. Since that's all that's required to prove a point around here, apparently, I've simultaneously proven the exact opposite! How can something be both true and not true?!

    --
    systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
    1. Re:Oh, the paradox! by webmistressrachel · · Score: 1

      Sorry to disappoint you, but whilst the misguided article and your post do cancel each other out, they do not cause a paradox.

      We've yet to see a real paradox, outside of science fiction.

      --
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  37. increased number of active gadgets by drolli · · Score: 4, Informative

    a) I still own all electronic devices which i owned in 2005, so the absolute number has increased

    b) I did not have three dozens of Gadgets in 2005

    c) Not even the number of "active" gadgets has decreased. active back then:
    * camera (compact)
    * mobile phone (Nokia 6310i)
    * palm (z31) (replaced also a stolen mp3 player)

    Now:
    *camera (compact)
    *mobile phone #1 (galaxy note II) - playing/reading documents/consuming media/surfing the web/feeds/google+
    *mobile phone #2 (nokia e63) - workhorse for phone calls and emails
    *ebook reader (sony) - use it when in eant a quite time in a bright place on a bench to read a good book (leave the other devices at home)
    *mp3 player (Used for sports/biking - before owning the galaxy note used also everyday)
    *tablet (galazy tab - surfing on th couch)

    I like that the gadgets got more diversified. Its just convenient.

    1. Re:increased number of active gadgets by dbIII · · Score: 1

      *ebook reader (sony) - use it when in eant a quite time in a bright place on a bench to read a good book

      It's a pity e-ink is such a closed shop. I could do with a few devices with screens I can see outdoors.

  38. He changed. The world still the same by houghi · · Score: 2

    Just looking at the pictures shows how his attitude has changed.
    In 2005 he thought it was cool to show (and have?) as much as possible, including all phones, his microwave and other assorted things.
    In 2013 he does not have a microwave anymore? Seriously?
    He only uses two speakers of his 5.1 system?
    And no router, hub or any other network connection anywhere? Not in either image?

    To me it seems that either his way of living has changed. e.g. eating healthier (Drop the coffee then) or he really wanted to show as little as possible where in the old picture he wanted to show as much as possible.

    When I look at myself, I am still at about the same in numbers. If I do not use something for one year, it is out. Some things just have replaced other things. e.g. the NAS has replaced the CD/VHS player.

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    Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    1. Re:He changed. The world still the same by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      In 2013 he does not have a microwave anymore? Seriously?

      I haven't so much as touched a microwave in years. I own one, just in case I ever want it, but it's a small one and it's in storage. Microwaves save little time if any, and little energy especially in the cold season, and they produce inferior results in almost all situations.

      To me it seems that either his way of living has changed. e.g. eating healthier (Drop the coffee then)

      A lot of people are eating healthier lately because they can't afford processed foods. Doubtless, many of these people are actually buying less gadgets. Coffee has health benefits, if you're not consuming enough to have significant negative affects from the caffeine.

      Some things just have replaced other things. e.g. the NAS has replaced the CD/VHS player.

      I did not RTFA, but that's a supporting argument, not a contradictory one. The NAS has replaced the CD player and the VHS player.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:He changed. The world still the same by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Microwaves save little time if any, and little energy especially in the cold season

      I can't let this go - are you deliberately trying to mislead the kids for some weird game or ideology or were you just using the thing the wrong way? It was definitely an easily measurable nobrainer moving to a microwave oven in the 1970s and they use much less power now while resistance heating remains about the same.

    3. Re:He changed. The world still the same by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It was definitely an easily measurable nobrainer moving to a microwave oven in the 1970s

      Yes, if you have no brain, you might think that cooking with a microwave is a good idea.

      and they use much less power now while resistance heating remains about the same.

      Resistance heating? Seriously? That's basically the biggest waste of electrical power that we have. I cook with natural gas, which just comes out of the ground. And if we weren't always inventing new ways to use it, we would have more than enough for that purpose without fracking.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re:He changed. The world still the same by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      I don't use my microwave exclusively, but there's no denying that there are many things where it produces indistinguishable results.

      Example 1- I cooked a big chicken casserole (in a slow cooker) the other day, with around half of it going in the fridge for another day. Heating up stew in the microwave takes about 4 minutes, and can be done in the serving bowl. Doing it in a saucepan would take more like 10-15 to do it without burning or boiling, and create more washing up. Both results will be the same- hot stew. The stew heated on my gas hob will not taste better.

      Example 2- I make porridge most mornings for breakfast. In the microwave, you combine the ingredients in a cereal bowl and cook for about 3 minutes. In a pan, it takes about 20. The microwaved porridge is more or less identical to the hob porridge.

      I wouldn't use a microwave for actual cooking, but it's definitely quicker at what it's quicker at. I mean l didn't even mention the big daddy of speedy microwave cooking- a baked potato in 12 mins, versus 1-2 hours in an oven.

      More to the point, cooking technology hasn't changed but a jot in 5 years. If you thought a microwave was a good idea in 2008, you're going to think it's a good idea in 2013. If you feel like you never use one in 2013, odds are you could have not used one in 2008. Claiming that it's some sort of worldwide attitude change that has meant we are less likely to use microwaves this year (as TFA appears to do) is patently idiotic.

    5. Re:He changed. The world still the same by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Well OK - a quick fryup with a gas stove is one thing but you were pushing the blanket case instead of a corner case (for instance once you boil, steam or bake stuff your argument fails). It really does look like a petty little game and you've just tried to both shift the goalpost and attack the man instead of the ball to win. You should be ashamed of yourself with your deliberate attempt to mislead people here.

    6. Re:He changed. The world still the same by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Well OK - a quick fryup with a gas stove is one thing but you were pushing the blanket case instead of a corner case (for instance once you boil, steam or bake stuff your argument fails)

      You can't steam anything in a microwave, so that is bullshit. You cook it directly at the same time you steam it. You can't bake most things in a microwave, either, because they want to be baked from the outside in, and microwaves penetrate to some distance. And most things you boil can be cooked in a hay box by using some foresight instead of being in such a hurry (yes, you might have to know that you get hungry around the same time every day, and cook ahead of time) and use far less energy than a microwave. You could of course couple the microwave with the haybox.

      It really does look like a petty little game

      You're going on and on in defense of microwave ovens for no reason whatsoever and I'm petty? I disagreed with something in passing and you're here grilling me about it, because of the microwave-related sand in your asscrack. Build a bridge and get over your love of convenience and your feeling of being personally attacked when someone disagrees with the usefulness of one of your favorite inventions.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    7. Re:He changed. The world still the same by dbIII · · Score: 1

      You've been rumbled with your petty little game and your direct insult so just give up pushing whatever stupid anti-technology politics you want to fool the kids with. It's sickening to find idiots that think any sort of reduction in energy usage is a threat to their politics instead of just the apolitical good idea it really is.

    8. Re:He changed. The world still the same by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You've been rumbled with your petty little game and your direct insult

      You keep making assertions without backing them up and then declaring victory.

      so just give up pushing whatever stupid anti-technology politics you want to fool the kids with.

      You're an idiot. I am anything but anti-technology. I am against cheering inferior technologies. Microwaves are good for a lot of things, but for most cooking tasks they are shit. Maybe someday when we're better at directing them, they'll be useful for making food someone wants to eat.

      It's sickening to find idiots that think any sort of reduction in energy usage is a threat to their politics

      Again, you're an idiot, you have no idea what you're babbling about. I am completely in favor of energy reduction. I simply want to carry it out in a reasonable fashion. Worrying about how much energy people use for cooking is a bit daft, because we actually have quite good efficiency there simply because we use manufactured appliances. There's other things we can do which would make a lot more sense. Trying to save a little power by using microwaves to cook food and produce an inferior result (I'm not even talking about nutrition! I'm talking about the immediately apparent quality of the finished product!) makes little or no sense when we could be producing vastly more power while reducing pollution by reprocessing and reusing nuclear "waste", or replacing our transportation fuels with biofuels using technology proven using our tax dollars in the 1980s, or replacing much of our peak use with power produced from solar panels which were shown to repay their energy investment well within their lifetimes in the 1970s.

      You have mistaken my dislike for microwave ovens for a dislike for power saving in general, and then gone off on a poorly informed rant against something I don't even believe. What. An. Idiot.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    9. Re:He changed. The world still the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cooking things in mugs is easy

      You can bake very easily in the microwave. I've made brownies and cupcakes that people enjoy and prep time was a few minutes which results in a steaming muffin in 10 minutes. No,I have not tried a loaf of bread.

      I can do scrambled eggs in 2 minutes. Throw it in a pita or a wrap and head out the door. I haven't fried eggs in years. No, I have not used it for hamburgers or steak.

      In the hands of a determined individual, some amazing single serving dishes can be made using only a microwave. There are E-books and websites based around the subject. I can survive on a microwave alone and so can you. It's just not preferable.

      I usually like your posts, drinky. You seem kind of batshit insane today. I hope everything is ok.

    10. Re:He changed. The world still the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microwaves save little time if any

      Seriously? What do you prepare without a microwave that takes 1.5 minutes?

      I pretty much still live like a college student I can't be bothered to waste my time cooking and cleaning up dishes and pans. So a microwavable tv dinner saves me TONS of time. Bonus with the plastic forks.

    11. Re:He changed. The world still the same by RR · · Score: 1

      In 2013 he does not have a microwave anymore? Seriously?

      He updated the post to say that he still has a microwave, but it's now built into the wall.

      And no router, hub or any other network connection anywhere? Not in either image?

      Well, in the text, he says he used to have a DSL modem, but now he doesn't. That's because he replaced the horrible AT&T service and the expensive Comcast service with a nice Webpass account, that the apartment building's owner had to install. And he stopped paying for cable TV, so that's a major lifestyle change.

      More amusingly, he replaced the unreliable Netgear crap with an Apple router, not in the picture.

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      Have a nice time.
    12. Re:He changed. The world still the same by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Sod "victory" for a joke - all I was doing was politely calling out an obvious lie then met with a personal attack and moving the goalposts so you could pretend you were writing something other than what you wrote. Also that "victory" comment is a bit of a giveaway that you are playing some sort of little game on the readers isn't it? This stupid denial of reality to push a political agenda on the gullible really gives me the shits. Go argue your ludditarian bullshit on somebody else's thread - I can see it for what it is and nobody else would be bothering to read to this point.

    13. Re:He changed. The world still the same by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Sod "victory" for a joke - all I was doing was politely calling out an obvious lie then met with a personal attack and moving the goalposts

      You didn't call out anything, you didn't point out anything, you deserved the personal attack, and if anyone is moving goalposts it's you. Welcome to doucheland.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    14. Re:He changed. The world still the same by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Ah yes, moving from a blanket case of all cooking methods to eventually a haybox FFS is supposed to be not moving the goalposts? You are not fooling anyone.

      Welcome to doucheland

      At least you appear to see the political swamp you are pouring into this place for what it is, but I'd prefer if you didn't drag us all into that "doucheland" - which is why I called out your lie in the first place.

  39. Re:A trend? I don't think so Wade. by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    that sound good

    What more, exactly, do you (by which I mean the generic "you," not you specifically, since we're all different) want from a pair of speakers?

    And same with cameras (personally, I think people who publish photos taken with an iphone should be shot for polluting the flow of electrons with their crappy photos).

    What about those fucking douchebags in Russia who had the gall to record that once-in-a-lifetime meteor event with a crappy dashboard cam instead of installing a Red One on the offchance?

    Heck, I still go on multiday tours on motorbike (with not much spare room besides my tent and sleeping bag) with SLR and second lense *because it produces better photos*.

    How nice for you. What is so vomit-inducingly wrong with other people going on holiday in their camper vans with their iPhones because they can't be arsed with an SLR?

    It's a pity a lot of people don't care about quality anymore, but some of us still do.

    Newsflash: people do care about quality. But they also care about convenience, cost, and even brand identity.

    They're also free to assign different weights to those parameters.

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    systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
  40. All ur stuff soon belong 2me by CuteSteveJobs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    > To prove the point, here are before-and-after photos from one San Francisco household (mine) where the herd of digital devices has been thinned from about three dozen, eight years ago, to just 15 today.

    Awesome. Once burglary was a real hit and miss. Now your victims case their places for you. Even lists his dog. Google tells me his dog it is an Australian Sheppard. Sound docile enough. I can always get it drunk lol.
    http://www.wikifido.com/page/Rhody
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Shepherd#Temperament

    Now when will Wade be out of town?
    Xconomy robotics event 4/11 https://twitter.com/wroush
    "Far too many people have too much information online as to their schedules and what they will be attending and where." http://protectitnow.blogspot.com.au/2011/07/your-home-security-never-before.html

    I'll just have to arrive early to beat the crowd. I have dibs on the Canon Powershot S5 IS and the iPhone5.

    1. Re:All ur stuff soon belong 2me by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Funny thing is in Australia something like that would probably be called a border collie cross.

    2. Re:All ur stuff soon belong 2me by webmistressrachel · · Score: 1

      Woah, this takes "Where Have All the Gadgets Gone?" to a whole new level...

      I'd rather be paranoid and alive, than naive and dead.

      And just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you...

      Also, there is no law against using "and" or "also" at the beginning of sentences.

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    3. Re:All ur stuff soon belong 2me by webmistressrachel · · Score: 1

      ps is this "Insightful", "Informative", "Interesting", or just "Funny"? Multi-purpose posts are making long threads and Mods and grammar nazis unnecessary, as cheeky hipsters like that Rachel are doing it all in one post!

      pps this one posted without Karma Bonus - no unfair "Overrated"'s please!

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      This tagline was transcoded to result in at least one smirk. If you experience failure to smirk, please consult your Gen
    4. Re:All ur stuff soon belong 2me by onyxruby · · Score: 1

      Point very well made and people should not take it as trolling.

    5. Re:All ur stuff soon belong 2me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He'll probably be taking those with him, you may want to ambush and mug him when he leaves for that trip instead.

  41. What singer to hear in your head? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The above sounds sooo much different if you hear in Bob Dylan's or Bono or Paula Cole's (Where Have All the Cowboys Gone).

    Then, think of a rap with one of the classic guys - like ICE-T - it takes a completely different meaning.

    Then there's Weird Al. He's singing about "Where All the Badgers Gone."

  42. Where did the Microwave oven go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Thanks mainly to the iPhone and the iPad, which take the place of so many other dedicated devices, the herd has been thinned to about 15 objects."

    So the iPhone and/or iPad cooks his food, too?

  43. Fewer? by damnbunni · · Score: 2

    My gadgets are multiplying like rabbits. Hell, I have five game consoles on my *desk*.

    A coupla cell phones, tablets, laptops, several computers, printers, a PDA I still use, portable game systems, and a rats-nest of cables and switchboxes tying it all together.

    Out under the TV I've got a VCR, HD-DVD, DVR, and a network media player. I have so many gizmos in the kitchen that it takes forever to reset all the clocks for DST. (Whyinhell does a fridge need a clock on it, anyway?)

    This isn't even counting all the gadgets I have left over from ages past that are packed away and no longer used.

    My cell phone hasn't replaced my 'portable music player'. My car has. (And the PMP was a Walkman.) The only other gizmo my cell phone has really replaced was the -really tiny- laptop I used to carry around for SSH use and light browsing. (A Toshiba Libretto 50CT.)

    Sure, there are gizmos that do -more- than they used to, but none of them do -all- of what I need my crapola to do, so I wind up with a bunch of them. I have a really nice tablet. I also have a netbook. Why? Sometimes I just want battery life and timekillers, and other times I need to run full computer software.

    (Although I could probably ditch the netbook if someone pointed me at a full Windows XP emulator for Android - all I can find is QEMU, which only works up to 98.)

  44. Re:A trend? I don't think so Wade. by dbIII · · Score: 1

    What more, exactly, do you (by which I mean the generic "you," not you specifically, since we're all different) want from a pair of speakers?

    Don't waste your money on a new set of speakers.
    You get more mileage from a cheap pair of sneakers.

  45. I'm guessing most households have more ... by MacTO · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Convergence may have gotten rid of the need for multiple devices, but devices are much more personal these days. Rather than one phone per household, it is one phone per person. Instead of one computer per household, it is one computer or tablet per person.

    A lot of the old gadgets will still exist anyway. An individual may have a tablet to watch TV alone, but they will also have a TV to watch as a family. An individual may have a tablet for web browsing, but there will still be a computer for the kids to type up their school papers. While most families will be perfectly happy with their camera phone, any family with a photo nut will also have a digital camera. (The prior statement applies for most hobbies.)

    As for that disappearing microwave, I don't see how he managed that. It was a lot easier to cook eggs with your CPU in 2005 after all.

  46. ... duh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does such an incredibly obvious thing, become such an article, that it then gets linked to on slashdot?

  47. Microwave and Breadmaker by Frankie70 · · Score: 1

    What exactly has replaced the Microwave Oven and Breadmaker? Has he stopped eating human food & now just eats dogfood?

    1. Re:Microwave and Breadmaker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dog food is highly underrated. Your attitude does not help the situation much.

    2. Re:Microwave and Breadmaker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dont forget the roomba! Unless he found some magic iSweep app for his iPhone

      And I guess no kids? No newish refridgerator? The amount of electronic gadgets have gone up with having a kid. Most of their toys anymore are remote controlled or have some type of IC and setup that makes them fall in the same category as that breadmaker in terms of electronic gadget.

      A lot of refridgerators now come with touch panels (either with full lcd displays or just led indicator lights) to adjust freezer/fridge temp and to set what type of ice you want dispensed etc. Hell my hot water heater has a pad on it with display for setting mode (normal, eco, vacation), water temp, and enable smart grid or not.

      Also, unlesd you dont watch tv.. chances are your devices have gone up (like the old analog cable box days!) Due to.. well.. digital cable boxes (or even OTA depending on the age of your TV)

      I guess my point is in the case of digital gadgets, theres a ton of items that get over-looked when you try to think of all the digital gadgets in your house

    3. Re:Microwave and Breadmaker by NewWorldDan · · Score: 1

      Breadmakers are dumb. They make mediocre bread, but you eat it like crazy while it's hot because warm bread is always awesome with butter.

      He's apparently moved since the 2 pictures were taken. He probably has a built in microwave now (per his notes, he was excluding built in kitchen appliances). His old electronics are probably hanging out with his missing hair.

      Anwyay, I've got far more gadgets now. I was never much of a gadget person, but my kid is almost 10 and she's got all kinds of crap. Camera, tablet, computer, iPod, DS, Wii. All together, as a family, we've got 3 computers, 3 TVs, 3 printers, a Dell server, Roku, 2 DVD players, 2 tablets, 2 cell phones, 2 cameras, 2 iPods, half a dozen remotes, a healthy pile of networking gear, home phones, alarm clocks, Raspberry Pi (running RaspBMC), stereo system. I've got some old computers that need to be recycled.

  48. Re:Looks like he matured and quit playing video ga by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

    And, for some unexplained reason, stopped eating rice.

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  49. so you're an anonymous coward by ferret4 · · Score: 1

    and I'm drunk, so I don't really care much. Please, continue to have fun scouring the Internet for easily parsed grammatical mistakes while I do something slightly more enjoyable like open a door and pass into the next room.

    1. Re:so you're an anonymous coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love how every time someone's grammar gets insulted they find some flowery polysyllabic prose to defend themselves with. Even if it's just to tell some random guy on the Internet that he's running away from his computer.

    2. Re:so you're an anonymous coward by ferret4 · · Score: 1

      running away from the computer? It's in my pocket.

  50. Define *gadget* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I have more than ever. But my gagdets now morph into each other as necessary so I don't have to carry as much. They're called 'apps'

  51. Consolidation, yes. Loss of gadgets, not so much by rocket+rancher · · Score: 1

    All of the gadgets that existed twenty years ago are still here, but with only a fraction of the redundancy. I think about what my home looked like twenty years ago, and compare it to what it looks like now, and the difference is stark and revealing. Cable closets and their attendant tentacles of cat 5 abandoned for a single wireless router, telephones in the kitchen, bedroom, and den abandoned for one that I carry in my pocket, the bulky one-way media devices that tended to dominate a room abandoned for slim, elegant two-way devices that hang on my walls. This is not a loss at all -- what I am seeing is a consolidation of redundant hardware, not a loss of gadgets. Gadgets exist for their functionality, and I have all the functionality I've ever had, plus new capabilities I only dreamed about twenty years ago. The big win is not having to replicate all the gadget's hardware in every place that I want to use the functionality of the gadget.

  52. Not a fair comparison by fa2k · · Score: 1

    He fails to correct for the fact that he may have changed in 8 years. If he was 8 years older in 2005 he may have wanted fewer gadgets then. He admits it himself with the consoles. I don't usually like to argue based on age, but it seems like a glaring omission in the analysis. To his credit, he hasn't changed that much physically.

  53. I guess I'm in the long tail again by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Yeah, my phone has replaced my camera and tape recorder, but right now in my living room are two computers, a laptop (sometimes all three being used at once), VCR, DVD player, cassette player, turntable (I have lots of analog media I have yet to digitize), receiver, TV tuner (my TV is ten years old), LED flashlight, four remotes... in 2005 there was one TV, one computer, a VCR, and DVD player.

    I'm not normal. But then, what nerd is?

  54. # of electronic devices by rossdee · · Score: 1

    "How many electronic gadgets did you own in 2005? How many do you own today? The answer is almost certainly a lot fewer. "

    Nope, I am sure it would be more today than in 2005. I don't throw away stuff if it still works, and it doesnt take up mich space.

    In 2005 I had a laptop, an external monitor and an external keyboar and external hard drive. and an MP3 player
    I now have a desktop (bought in 2008) Two android tablets, 3 or 4 MP3 players, a much larger external HD, but I still have the 80 meg one I used with the lap[top, I just don't use it anymore and of course lots of SD cards and jumpdrives.3 UPS'd (one for the computer, one for the cable box in my office, and one for the router

    I think the only thing we have less of is printers. In those days every computer had its own inkjet, and we had a separate photocopier, now there is one multifunction laser which has WiFi

  55. Re:Looks like he matured and quit playing video ga by rjr162 · · Score: 1

    And a roomba

  56. I own more! by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

    Well multipurpose devices have certainly been on the rise it doesn't mean that single use devices still don't provide a better experience in that task they're mean't to complete. For instance my smart phone can also be a music player, camera, network share, wallet and a number of other things. Just because my smart phone can take pictures doesn't mean it's camera and therefore I still want a great camera for taking pictures. Just because my smart phone can be my music player doesn't mean it is, I can buy much better stand alone portable systems and so my smart phone doesn't need to fill that area.

    My point is that just because everyone is obsessed with compression 10 devices into 1 doesn't mean we get 1 devices which can do 10 tasks. Really all you get in that case is 1 device which can 1 do one thing really well and 9 things rather poorly. In the way a smart phone isn't a good DLSR camera, that same camera could never be a great smart phone. So my tech heap has grown as instead of relying on a few devices to do everything rather poorly, I rely on 20 devices to do 20 things exceptionally well.

    That isn't to say for the most people a smart phone can't be a camera, music play, easy bake oven and more but for me it can't be those things.

    1. Re:I own more! by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      A lot of cameras on the market today are using Android to begin with, and have the same camera software that your smartphone does. While it's true that a good DSLR will take better pictures, it's also true that a cheap P&S camera will probably be about par for most users.

      Similarly, while you *can* buy an iPod or dedicated music player to go alongside your phone, there isn't much point. An iPod runs *exactly* the same operating system as an iPhone. Any other device that plays music really only needs two things: the appropriate codec to play your music, and a sound card that produces decent sound. Since most people listening to music use cheap earbuds, you probably won't notice the difference between a smart phone and a portable music player. In that case, the cell phone ends up being a better buy, because it's got expandible memory cards, and because it's easier to add more codecs. All of my music is in FLAC (1400kbps minimum, some of it's in 3800kbps), and my Android phone is a better player than anything else, because it can play the FLAC with no problem, and because it can take 32 and 64GB memory cards without batting an eye.

      Ok, yes, it's easier to type an e-mail out or manage my calendar on a laptop. The sound is better on my stereo. Movies are better on the big screen HDTV. Games are better on the Nintendo. Pictures are better with my DSLR. But I'd rather carry the cell phone on the bus than my stereo.

  57. Strange assertion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have more gadgets now then I have ever owned before.

  58. less in my pocket, more on my net by unfortunateson · · Score: 2

    Around that time, I got into geocaching. I'd walk into the woods with a GPS the size of a paperback book, a digital camera, my flip phone, and a Palm Pilot. Maybe an MP3 player.

    Now that's all one device, but...
    Now everything on my house is on the net: printer, home media server, satellite TV, Blu-Ray, home theater receiver, tablet, media streamer, Twine sensor box

    Interesting trade.

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    Design for Use, not Construction!
  59. No coffee addiction in 2005? by stephencrane · · Score: 1

    He didn't own a coffee maker in 2005, apparently.

  60. Obsolete consoles, 10" laptops, smartphone plans by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the 80s and 90s, a computer from a few years ago wouldn't just be slow, it would be absolutely obsolete. It wouldn't even run new software.

    That's still true on consoles. Xbox and GameCube were abandoned fairly quickly in favor of Xbox 360 and Wii. It's also true on mobile, where phones still being sold today can't run some of the apps on Google Play Store because the apps require Android 4.x and the devices are stuck on 2.x.

    You have a laptop that can run everything handily

    Except companies stopped making 10" laptops at the end of 2012 because they want customers to start buying a separate, higher-margin laptop and tablet instead.

    and a phone that includes the PDA.

    Except it can be far more expensive to consolidate. A PDA such as the Galaxy Player or iPod touch costs $0 per month more than what one's already paying for Internet. Replacing your dumbphone with a smartphone, on the other hand, means replacing a $7/mo bill with a $35/mo bill (source: virginmobileusa.com) because a lot of carriers refuse to activate voice-only service on a smartphone.

  61. Tethering penalty by tepples · · Score: 1

    but you can use your phone as an AP if required.

    Provided that everywhere you travel is within the coverage area of an affordable carrier that doesn't charge extortionate rates for tethering.

  62. Man carrying a purse by tepples · · Score: 1

    Purse? In my country, which is the same as Slashdot's home country, there are cultural expectations against 50% of the population carrying anything that could be called a "purse". Some members of the vocal minority made news for criticizing the company that made the TV series Teletubbies for promoting "gay pride" in part by giving Tinky-Winky a "purse".

    1. Re:Man carrying a purse by icebraining · · Score: 1

      "Man purses" are not well seen in my country either, but satchels / messenger bags don't bring you odd looks and accomplish much the same thing.

  63. Cost per year of owning a smartphone by tepples · · Score: 1

    Furthermore, the iPhone has a key feature that most camera makers have willfully ignored: network connectivity.

    But how much does the iPhone's network connectivity cost the user per year compared to having a simple phone that just makes the occasional call?

  64. Where's the microwave? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    What, is the scanner/printer also a combination hotplate-toaster oven?

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  65. Copyright, dumping hardware, game complexity by tepples · · Score: 2

    On the contrary, everything that can be transferred onto newer media and emulated, should be

    Unfortunately, such preservation is contingent on the continued periodic renewal of an exception in copyright law for circumventing copy protection on media for obsolete devices.

    Turing is god.

    Can god die? Turing did.

    Hoarding old hardware does not make any sense. I hate old hardware. I lived in that era, and I always hated the limitations and crankiness of the hardware of that age.

    I'm inclined to agree with you, with one exception: my classic game consoles. How much do you think it'd cost to buy a cartridge reader for each of a half dozen game consoles?

    In addition, there's still a vibrant hobbyist game development scene on the NES, and I keep my NES around specifically for that. I guess part of that is because the NES is close to the limit of graphical complexity that one amateur can feasibly create without having to pull together a team in one's home town. Emulation is still imperfect because more things are still being discovered about the NES's inner workings even in 2013, nearly thirty years after the Famicom first came out in Japan, and it's very possible to write a program that behaves differently on an NES than in an emulator.

  66. anecdote n, pl. data by tepples · · Score: 1

    anecdote ['eanik,dout] n, pl. data ['deita] A short and interesting story about an incident or person.

    Sure, as you point out, one anecdote isn't enough to prove anything unless it's a disproof of a claim that absolutely nobody does something. But Slashdot discussion of this anecdote has brought out numerous other anecdotes, which are enough data to draw hypotheses about the causes behind these anecdotes.

  67. Only partially technology. by jklovanc · · Score: 1

    A number of the changes in gadgets are do to changes in his requirements. Here are the devices he got rid of;

    ESA Portable DVD Player Panasonic Portable DVD Player; Why two? For most people they only get one.
    Kenmore Elite Sensor QuickTouch Microwave Oven; not replaced. Doesn't he microwave things any more? Or is it built in now so he does not count it?
    Panasonic KX-TS108W Desk Telephone; he had 2 smartphone why did he need a land line even then?
    Dell Dimension 2400 PC; Sorry by a laptop will not do what a desktop can do. For example I have 8 cores, 3TB of HD and a 240GB SSD in my desktop. It could be argued that he replaced the desktop with the Airbook and the laptop with the tablet so no real change.
    Dell E152FP 15-inch LCD Monitor; I would consider that part of the desktop.
    Playstation 2, XBox 360 "lost interest in console games:
    Sanyo ECJ-D55S Rice Cooker "don’t eat rice much anymore"
    Sony ICF-C793 Radio Alarm Clock; I still use my alarm clock as my phone is not loud enough when it is plugged into my computer in the other room
    iRobot Roomba Red Robot Vacuum Cleaner "it died. Now I have concrete floors, so I sweep by hand." Translation; early adopter that discoverd that it was not such a good idea and went back to the old way.
    2Wire DSL Modem; Webpass is basically using a building's router so not really less equipment. Had he not moved in to one of the 250 buildings in CA he would still have a modem.
    Technis Quartz SL1301 Turntable, Kenwood KXW8060 Double Cassette Player, Yamaha HTR-5550 Tuner, Sony CPD-C315 5-CD Compact Disc Player, Boston HD7 Loudspeakers; this counts as one device as it works together as a sterio system. If the Jambox can put out the same sound as a my surround sound system the one might be comparing apples to apples. Otherwise the audio requirements have decreased.
    Brother label maker; Not replaced. I guess he does not make labels any more. Was rthis due to a fad?
    Handspring Treo 300 smartphone, Handspring Treo 650 smarthpone; Why two? So basically no change here.
    All other devices were replaced or still exist.

    What he really consolidated were his portable devices;
    Handspring Treo 650 smarthpone
    Rio Diamond MP3 Player
    Sony ICD-S10 Digital Voice Recorder
    Sony Clie PEG-T415 Personal Organizer
    Swatch Beat 0033 Internet Wristwatch
    ESA Portable DVD Player
    All this is portable and replaced by the smartphone.

    It looks to me that there are four reasons for fewer devices today;
    Better mobile technology;
    Fewer redundant items;
    Changes in requirements;
    and fewer early adopter items.

    Had he restricted his article to devices he carries I would have fewer issues with it.

  68. Netbooks are discontinued by tepples · · Score: 1

    I also have a netbook.

    They stopped making netbooks in 2012. What do you plan to replace it with once your netbook finally bites the dust? I considered an Ultrabook laptop, but those are far more expensive than a netbook was and don't fit in my bag.

    1. Re:Netbooks are discontinued by damnbunni · · Score: 1

      I'm sure ebay will be ass-deep in netbooks for a decade, at least.

      Alternately, if I wanted to spend more dough, I could import something like this http://www.dynamism.com/top-notebooks/mengda-md-w8.shtml from Japan.

  69. Modem with integrated router by tepples · · Score: 1

    And no router, hub or any other network connection anywhere? Not in either image?

    A lot of home and small business ISPs are providing modems with integrated routers. No visible network hardware could just mean everything is using the Wi-Fi signal from the ISP's modem.

  70. Pay per household or per person by tepples · · Score: 1

    Rather than one phone per household, it is one phone per person.

    And rather than one phone bill per household, it is one per person.

    Instead of one computer per household, it is one computer or tablet per person.

    On the other hand, instead of one paid copy of each program per household, it's one per person due to lack of spawn installation within a household.

    An individual may have a tablet for web browsing, but there will still be a computer for the kids to type up their school papers.

    Not necessarily. If one owns a tablet, a Bluetooth keyboard like the ZAGGkeys Flex that I'm typing this comment on is cheaper than a whole new computer and monitor. Some households could end up with no computers at all and no way for a child who wants to learn to program to have access to hardware on which to learn to program.

  71. Real handheld gaming devices are locked down by tepples · · Score: 1

    So for which "real handheld gaming device" should an amateur or a startup company develop a video game? I agree with the control disadvantage of a smartphone or tablet compared to a PlayStation or DS family product, but they have one big advantage: a selection you can't get on Sony or Nintendo.

    1. Re:Real handheld gaming devices are locked down by loufoque · · Score: 1

      There are way more games on PSP/DS than on Android/iOS.

  72. What changed Apple? by tepples · · Score: 1

    What caused Apple's policy to change from this C64 game,, which Apple pulled from the App Store when it was discovered that the user could reboot the emulated C64 into the BASIC prompt and key in an unapproved program that way, to Codea? I've gathered from a discussion with BasilBrush that Apple doesn't want me to know because Apple wants prospective iOS application developers to instead spend four figures on hardware and the first year of a developer license to read the App Store Review Guidelines and find out that Apple would reject the developer's application concepts, at which point Apple already has the prospective developer's $1,147.

  73. Always Increasing by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

    I generally buy good quality stuff that is physically useful for a long time. Plus I work at home now. So as a result I rarely get rid of anything less than 10 years old. Plus I have 3 major hobbies. So my electronics inventory is monotonically increasing and has been since I got out of school in 1978. Right now in my house I have the following electronic devices (off the top of my head I am sure this is not complete)

    5 USB flash drives
    2 solar powered digital watches
    1 Kuerig coffee maker
    1 microwave oven
    1 toaster oven
    2 pairs of powered speakers - not counting passive speakers as they are not electronic
    4 networked digital media players
    2 powered subwoofers
    1 subwoofer equalizer
    5 gigabit switches
    3 wireless access points
    4 desktop computers
    5 LCD monitors
    3 laptop computers
    1 flatbed scanner
    2 laser printers
    2 DSLRs
    14 lenses for the DSLRs (yes these are electronic)
    2 electronic flashes
    1 digital point and shoot
    1 Android phone
    1 feature phone
    2 D/A converters
    6 headphones
    1 headphone amp
    2 monoblock amps
    1 Sherwood 5 channel amp
    2 integrated amps
    2 Blu-Ray players
    1 DVD player
    11 assorted external drives, both optical and magnetic
    2 LCD TVs
    1 AV Preprocessor
    4 programmable remote controls
    2 RF-IR remote repeaters
    2 plunge routers
    1 tracksaw
    1 circular saw
    3 rechargable drills
    2 tenon cutters
    4 sanders
    1 gas powered generator
    1 air compressor
    1 sawzall
    1 drill press
    1 table saw
    2 jigsaws
    17 vintage HP calculators
    1 oscilloscope
    1 bench DVM
    2 hand DVMs
    1 electronic caliper
    1 frequency counter
    1 function generator
    1 bench power supply
    1 logic analyzer
    1 engine code reader
    4 USB microphones
    1 web cam
    2 cable boxes
    1 cable modem
    1 router
    1 programmable thermostat
    1 electronically controlled gas furnace
    about a dozen compact flourescent bulbs
    hundreds of LED Christmas lights
    2 garage door opener
    about a dozen non-programmable remote controls

    None of this is likely to be discarded in the next year. There is an additional unused desktop in the garage that may be used as a starting point for a new desktop for use by my son.

    And there is a new watch, and a new LCD monitor likely to be added soon. Some of the lenses may be sold to raise funds to purchase a new lens.

  74. Judging by the article pic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure he kept his dildo.

  75. Hard to take this guy seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His 2005 photo shows what looks like a microwave oven on the far left. I don't see it in the 2013 picture. And if I understand his point correctly, it's that convergence has reduced his number of devices, so the implication is that something in the 2013 picture replaces the microwave oven.

    The problem with that is that 2001 was the time for "cook with your Pentium 4" jokes and today's personal computers are too cool (figuratively and literally) for that, so I don't think he's joking. If he's not joking, he's serious. And if he's serious, he's full of shit.

    The 2005 photo also seems exaggerated in some ways. Why, even in 2005, would someone use so many portable CD players and mobile phones? It's not like he had 6 arms and 3 sets of ears back then.

  76. Frozen food? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So this guy has done away with his microwave? Seriously?

    In the 2005 picture there's a watch. He doesn't have one now. Yes, you can check your phone, but a wristwatch is so much easier for just a quick check of the time.

    And he doesn't have a games console anymore? Playing The Pinball Arcade on his pad is no match to playing it on the PS3 or a 360. I still have a bunch of stuff at my parents' place, excluding that I am still owner of a PS2, Wii, and a couple PSPs and not about to get rid of any of those due to exclusive content that I have for those platforms only and I am not prepared to shell out cash for again for another platform

    Speaking just for me, I own *more* gadgets now than I did in 2005 (and yes, I still own/use my microwave).

  77. Basic Necessities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With no microwave, and no Pentium IV, how does he cook his food now?

  78. He made one wise trade-off. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    By ditching the good sound equipment AND the microwave, he was able to downgrade to MP3s without noticing the difference---because he's not munching on microwave popcorn while he's listening.

  79. Weird by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    this guy had like 7 cell phones back in 2005.

  80. Best-in-class versus all-in-one by kortsen · · Score: 2

    I personally have about the same number of devices as I did through the decades but I have a lot more gadgets. I used to have a cell phone for phone calls and texting, a camera for taking pictures, and a portable audio player (Walkman then Discman then MP3 player) for listening to music. I now own a phone that does all of that, but I also have an 8mp digital camera that takes better pictures and an MP3 player that is more compact and comfortable when I go to the gym. I've never owned a stand-alone GPS but I now have one in my phone. If I had a day-to-day need for a GPS or needed better accuracy for hiking or geocaching I would get one for that purpose. I have never owned a stand-alone handheld gaming system but my phone can do that too. Of course, if I was serious about handheld gaming I'd get something like a PS Vita. When I looked into getting an eReader I ended up with an Android tablet. It works as an eReader plus everything my phone does plus plays HD videos and even hooks up to my TV via HDMI. I bought a Bluetooth dongle for my car and can read engine codes with it. But now I wish I had got a one-trick-pony eReader for the better display and longer battery life.

  81. Man in a kilt by tepples · · Score: 1

    There are 802 PSP games (source) and 1297 DS games (source). As of October of last year, there were 700,000 apps on Google Play and 700,000 on Apple's App Store (source). Are you trying to imply that far fewer than 1 percent of these are games?

    Man in a kilt detected on security camera.

    1. Re:Man in a kilt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but how many of those are various iterations of Angry Birds or Temple Run? How many of them are Farmville clones, complete with microtransactions?

      Sure, GP probably could have made a better point than something as absolute as consoleGames > iOSGames, but whether or not the 700,000+ games on mobile devices are worth playing is left up to the beholder. They're great for some people, but clearly not for the GP.

    2. Re:Man in a kilt by tepples · · Score: 1

      how many [phone and tablet games] are various iterations of Angry Birds or Temple Run? How many of them are Farmville clones, complete with microtransactions?

      And how many PSP games are Call of Duty clones? I'm not aware of any bright-line definition of originality.

  82. iPad is a microwave. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My iPad replaced my microwave too. Seriously?

  83. Good news if true... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but until I see some hard evidence I'll treat your annacdote with a pinch of skepticism.

  84. Microwave mea culpa by waderoush · · Score: 3, Informative

    Author of TFA here. So many people have mentioned the microwave that I had to respond. Yes, I still have a microwave! It's built into the kitchen and it belongs to my landlord, so I wasn't about to rip it out for the "after" photo. I should have made that clear in the original text, which has now been updated.

    Thanks, (almost) everyone, for engaging seriously with the premise of the article. Of course it's anecdotal, of course I was writing about my own experiences. This is a given when you're writing a personal essay. But my guess -- and it seems to be correct, from a lot of the comments -- was that a lot of other people have also noticed that they're able to get along with fewer gadgets, especially since the new wave of touchscreen mobile gadgets are basically the Swiss army knives of electronics. Others haven't had this experience, and that's fine. My real point was that it's possible to get the same stuff done today with fewer tools.

    Sorry if my preference for Apple products put off a bunch of readers, but the theme would hold up even if I were an Android or Windows customer.

    1. Re:Microwave mea culpa by tokul · · Score: 1

      you stopped playing games on console -2, disappointed with gadgets for your dog -1, consolidated your phones and decided that less PCs is enough.

    2. Re:Microwave mea culpa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and your vacuum ?

      That whole piece is an ad in disguise.

  85. What about money? by ButchDeLoria · · Score: 1

    Maybe this is only because we've been in a recession for 5 years, and we can only afford multi-purpose devices?

  86. Re:Not modem with integrated router by RR · · Score: 1

    And no router, hub or any other network connection anywhere? Not in either image?

    A lot of home and small business ISPs are providing modems with integrated routers. No visible network hardware could just mean everything is using the Wi-Fi signal from the ISP's modem.

    Hah, the AT&T-supplied modem that he used to have is horrible. I hate it. In the article, he says that he had both the AT&T combination modem-router-WiFi device and a crappy Netgear router, but he replaced the Netgear with an Apple router and he replaced the modem with a subscription to Webpass. Note that he needed his apartment's owner to subscribe to Webpass before he could get Internet from it.

    To be fair, I guess I should say that the Motorola modem-router-WiFi things that AT&T is buying now are better than what they used to send. It's still a somewhat annoying device. And plenty of 2Wire modems are still out there, because AT&T is definitely not going to spend money to replace them if they can get away with it.

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  87. I stopped keeping gadgets I don't want and need. by antdude · · Score: 1

    I just buy stuff that I do need.

    --
    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
  88. Up A Hole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are hiding up Larry Elision's ass hole.

    Its dark, lonely, cavernous and impervious to TSA scanners and condom gloved fingers.

    XD

  89. No! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  90. I might get more, not less. by NullSolaris · · Score: 1

    I tried consolidating everything into my phone -- gaming, music, light computing, etc. But, the battery life is shit [and I'd be up a creek if I couldn't actually use it for its primary function of calling people if the battery was dead], so I now carry around 4-5 devices: phone, PSP, 3DS, MP3 player, and if I'm going to class that day my netbook. Each gets its use, even the standalone MP3 player thanks to it's 24hr or so battery life, which none of my other devices can compete with, and yes I'm often away from a power source long enough that I'd need that.

    Compare 5 years ago [this list is valid for back in 2005 as well, only difference is that I had a different iPod model then] when I had a non-smartphone, an iPod [which I don't have simply because the HDD died and I never bothered trying to replace it], a DS [which got replaced by my 3DS, and the DS's screen got cracked], and that was it. 3 devices. And going back a little further, I had only a Palm m100 and a Game Boy Advance.

    I'm likely to get more devices rather than fewer, even as their feature-sets converge -- all of my 5 current portable devices play MP3s, 4 of them can play games [all but the standalone MP3 player], 3 can do computing tasks [homebrew enabled PSP, phone, netbook], etc.
    Hell, I'm probably going to get an e-ink based reader soon [much nicer to read on than a bright screen], I might get a tablet for things that my phone is too small for and my netbook is too clunky to just pull out for, etc. And the game consoles in my list will likely stay there or increase [for games/systems that can't be emulated, games that are exclusive to a system, etc]. If something neat comes out for it and I have the coin to spend [probably not, haha], I'd probably get a Vita too.

    If the phone had 20 hours of active battery life though, I'd be a lot more tempted to drop some of the other devices. But with enough pockets, it's not terribly inconvenient to have all these things on your person, larger stuff would get stuffed in the backpack.

    And last but not least, even these generalized devices still fill a niche for me. In my case, the netbook is for running normal PC programs on, the phone makes calls and has 3G internet, the PSP plays Wipeout and whatnot, the 3DS plays Pokemon and whatnot, the MP3 player plays music and lasts all day doing so, etc.
    If I took more pictures ever, I'd definitely carry a standalone camera since the phone camera sucks and the 3DS camera is the worst possible thing that still captures an image.

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    Reading Slashdot for the vulnerability announcements is like buying Playboy for the articles --A.C.
  91. Re:Obsolete consoles, 10" laptops, smartphone plan by Zuriel · · Score: 2

    Except it can be far more expensive to consolidate. A PDA such as the Galaxy Player or iPod touch costs $0 per month more than what one's already paying for Internet. Replacing your dumbphone with a smartphone, on the other hand, means replacing a $7/mo bill with a $35/mo bill (source: virginmobileusa.com) because a lot of carriers refuse to activate voice-only service on a smartphone.

    This isn't actually anything to do with the devices in question, this is shitty US mobile networks squeezing you for money because they can. Can't you keep paying for a voice-only plan, turn off data on the smartphone and swap the SIM card over? Or are you talking about signing up for a 24 month plan and getting a 'free' smartphone?

  92. CDMA2000 by tepples · · Score: 2

    Can't you keep paying for a voice-only plan, turn off data on the smartphone and swap the SIM card over?

    Not especially. A lot of popular prepaid carriers in the United States are MVNOs on Sprint's CDMA2000 network, and CDMA2000 handsets in the United States typically do not use a removable CSIM. Even on GSM, AT&T has been known to add a data plan to any SIM used in a device whose IMEI is detected as that of a "smartphone" even if data is turned off.

  93. More... by Spugglefink · · Score: 1

    I own more electronic gadgets than I did in 2005, because I have an extra printer, and a smart phone. What's the point of the article? Besides, why does anybody give a flying rat's ass how many electronic gadgets you own? ZOMFG people have fewer gadgets teh wr0ld is ENDING!!!!!

  94. Re:Obsolete consoles, 10" laptops, smartphone plan by nine-times · · Score: 1

    It's also true on mobile, where phones still being sold today can't run some of the apps on Google Play Store because the apps require Android 4.x and the devices are stuck on 2.x.

    That's an issue particular to many Android phone manufacturers, who are trying to create enforced obsolescence. That is, they're trying to keep the old business models that I was referring to.

    Except companies stopped making 10" laptops at the end of 2012 because they want customers to start buying a separate, higher-margin laptop and tablet instead.

    This is completely irrelevant to my point.

    A PDA such as the Galaxy Player or iPod touch costs $0 per month more than what one's already paying for Internet. Replacing your dumbphone with a smartphone, on the other hand, means replacing a $7/mo bill with a $35/mo bill (source: virginmobileusa.com) because a lot of carriers refuse to activate voice-only service on a smartphone.

    So assuming you want to buy a smartphone *and* not have a cellular data plan *and* choose to use a carrier that doesn't offer voice-only service *and* you buy a subsidized phone rather than buying an unlocked one, then you will pay extra each month, which will be somewhat offset by the subsidy you got for your phone.

  95. Re:Obsolete consoles, 10" laptops, smartphone plan by tepples · · Score: 1

    You can still use your iPhone 3GS and your Core2Duo laptop.

    companies stopped making 10" laptops

    This is completely irrelevant to my point.

    Then let me rephrase: I'm happy with my older laptop; it does what I need. But older hardware will eventually break. What should I use once it breaks?

    *and* choose to use a carrier that doesn't offer voice-only service

    Which U.S. carrier is otherwise?

    *and* you buy a subsidized phone rather than buying an unlocked one

    Unlocked phones work only with GSM carriers, not CDMA2000 carriers. Most of the U.S. MVNOs I've looked at seem to be on Sprint's network, which is CDMA2000.

  96. Re:Obsolete consoles, 10" laptops, smartphone plan by nine-times · · Score: 1

    Then let me rephrase: I'm happy with my older laptop; it does what I need. But older hardware will eventually break. What should I use once it breaks?

    This is an entirely different problem than what we're talking about. I could just as easily say that I like my current pair of jeans, but the GAP doesn't offer that cut anymore, so what should I do when they rip?

    It's not a technological issue. Just because you like a product does not mean that someone will continue to produce it.

    Which U.S. carrier is otherwise?

    I don't know. I'm not going around researching every carrier around the US to see what all their plans are right now. I know there are some cheap plans out there. Not necessarily good service, but cheap.

    Unlocked phones work only with GSM carriers, not CDMA2000 carriers.

    So then don't go with a CDMA carrier. Look, you can't necessarily have everything you want. Really, you're conflating a bunch of different-- though related-- issues. You seem to be saying, "It's bad to integrate cell phones with PDAs because I can't get the plan that I want on the carrier that I want." And you know, maybe you should be able to get the plan you want on the carrier you want. Maybe cell phone carriers are horrible and corrupt companies, and we should do something about them. But even if I grant all that, it doesn't mean that smartphones are inherently a bad idea.

  97. Re:Obsolete consoles, 10" laptops, smartphone plan by tepples · · Score: 1

    This is an entirely different problem than what we're talking about.

    Where, which is not here, should i ask how to solve this "entirely different problem"?

    You seem to be saying, "It's bad to integrate cell phones with PDAs because I can't get the plan that I want on the carrier that I want."

    Allow me to amend that: not "bad" but "cost-inefficient", and not "the carrier that I want" but "any carrier that has bothered to promote its plan to me".