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Lamenting the Demise of Hangups

An anonymous reader writes "Ian Bogost writes about a cultural tradition we've mostly lost as smartphones have become ubiquitous: hanging up. While we still use the terminology (in the same way we say 'rewind' when skipping backward on our DVR), the physical act of hanging up a telephone when we're done using it no longer occurs. And we don't get that satisfying crash and clatter when hanging up on somebody to make a point. 'In the context of such gravity, the hangup had a clear and forceful meaning. It offered a way of ending a conversation prematurely, sternly, aggressively. Without saying anything, the hangup said something: we're done, go away. ... Today a true hangup — one you really meant to perform out of anger or frustration or exhaustion — is only temporary and one-sided even when it is successfully executed. Even during a heated exchange, your interlocutor will first assume something went wrong in the network, and you could easily pretend such a thing was true later if you wanted. Calls aren't ever really under our control anymore, they "drop" intransitively.' It's an interesting point about the minor cultural changes that go along with evolving technology."

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  1. They beauty of smart phones by dmomo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Make an aggressive hang-up app.

    1. Re:They beauty of smart phones by dmomo · · Score: 5, Informative

      And of course, dmomo's law rings true once more:
      "The Internet already did your idea":
      http://www.appbrain.com/app/the-cell-slammer/The.Slammer

    2. Re:They beauty of smart phones by nametaken · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't remember aggressive hang-ups being audibly distrubing. Maybe it's because you had hammered the switch down before the crashing noise.

      The real problem is that mobile phone calls disconnect all the time, and for a number of reasons. So terminating a call prematurely isn't always a definitive, "fuck you, you've been hung up on."

    3. Re:They beauty of smart phones by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hanging up on someone was as rude as telling them to go fuck themselves. Anyone who misses hanging up on someone has something wrong with them.

      We've traded hanging up on someone with the even ruder talking on the phone when you're conversing with someone face to face. When the phone rang, the polite thing to do was answer it, say you had company and offer to call back. Now assholes just ignore you and gab on their phone. Didn't you kids have parents that taught you how to act like a human being?

      Don't get me started on musical ring tones, sometimes I feel like walking into next cube over and smashing their goddamned cell phone. Whoever came up with the idea should be tied to a chair and made to listen to the first fifteen notes of the song they hate worst, over and over.

    4. Re:They beauty of smart phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just send a followup text message with the goatse image attached and the quote "this is what your mama ate last night!" That will get the message across, while also permanently psychologically scarring the individual and preventing them for ever again displaying affection to their mother--you know, what you really want in the moment of anger during a hangup.

    5. Re:They beauty of smart phones by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You know, people could just grow a pair and yell, "You know what? FUCKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" into the phone before 'hanging up'. I'm pretty sure the message would be conveyed.

      Also: I'm a fan of the "fuck this shitbrain, I'm putting it on mute and setting it on my desk while I do something important," dis. Then they have to hang up: I care just enough to show them that I don't value their time, and will denigrate them by making them hang up on me.

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    6. Re:They beauty of smart phones by theskipper · · Score: 3, Funny

      Slight variation, I sent the goatse text to myself after having an angry conversation with my mom. I feel much better now.

    7. Re:They beauty of smart phones by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The real problem is that mobile phone calls disconnect all the time, and for a number of reasons. So terminating a call prematurely isn't always a definitive, "fuck you, you've been hung up on."

      This problem is easy to solve:simply say "fuck you" before disconnecting.

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  2. Lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is really just an updated version of Seinfeld's cordless phone bit

  3. Even by the standards of crappy Soulskill posts... by Nova+Express · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...this is a crappy Soulskill post.

    Even for a slow Saturday night.

    Couldn't you find another Apple linkbait troll piece to post instead? You know, "Rumor Says New OS X Release Locked to Processor." You know, the lame crap that gets posted here every day which is still better than this...

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  4. No app necessary. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Preface disconnecting with the following: "This is me hanging up on you".

    1. Re:No app necessary. by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Fuck off" also works well.

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  5. Forget the hangup.... I'm missing by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the full duplex, circuit-switched, not-laggy realtime conversations I used to have on a landline phone. I could be talking, and the other party could be talking at the same time, and both of us could hear each other and understand everything.

    The young uns here will probably think I'm making this up. I'm not; back in the day, Candace Bergen could drop a pin and I could hear it over the phone.

    1. Re:Forget the hangup.... I'm missing by slimjim8094 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To be honest I don't recall ever having a dropped landline call since 9/11 (northeast NJ so it's understandable that the network was properly overloaded)

      Say what you want about the Bell monopoly (and its Baby Bells) - they sure knew how to engineer a damn solid network.

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    2. Re:Forget the hangup.... I'm missing by romiz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      they sure knew how to engineer a damn solid network.

      That's what regulated, cost-oriented prices in a monopoly do. Gold plate everything, spare no expense in the research of perfection, and earn a fixed percentage on it. Nowadays, we spend money on advertisement instead, because it's much more efficient at recruiting clients than quality in a competitive market.

    3. Re:Forget the hangup.... I'm missing by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2

      I'm missing [...] the full duplex, circuit-switched, not-laggy realtime conversations I used to have on a landline phone.

      That depended on the distance involved. I grew up in an era when most phones had a rotary dial and a real bell that rang (now I settle for an mp3 recording of a 1960s post-office phone on my Android device), and it was quite common to get a noticeable lag on international calls. Not as badly as with some VOIP calls, but there nonetheless.

      But if your call connected (which it always did except when lines became congested at Christmas-time), the line was yours until you ended the call.

      Even back in the 1980s, with analogue mobile phones (glorified push-button POTS phones with no wire plugged into the wall), you very rarely got a broken connection. Now, at least 50% of mobile calls drop out before I'm ready (thanks, Telstra) and even VOIP isn't very reliable.

      Another thing about the old POTS network was that without caller-ID display, there was an element of surprise involved in taking a call, so if you wanted to reject calls from anybody in particular, you had to reject them from everybody. Which probably makes for better manners.

    4. Re:Forget the hangup.... I'm missing by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm sure mean "when you had AT&T since the breakup of their monopoly", not "AT&T back when they provided analog phones and had the US telephone monopoly".

      Earlier in my electrical engineering experience, I actually reconnected 50 and 60 year old phones in old houses to active, analog, land-line circuits from almost any decade between 1920 and 1980, and it _all worked_, including the older phones that were wired directly to wiring jacks inside of wall plates, and lacked modern RJ-11 wiring connectors. (The 1900 era phone took some extra work.) Many, if not most, of those old phones frankly had better sound quality than the modern consumer grade phones. And because the entire setup was analog, they filtered but still carried some small amount of higher frequency signals that modern digital phones _cannot_ carry, particularly useful for sharp sounds that digital analysis and remixing smear. A "bang" or "clatter" including that of hanging up the phone, was much more clear.

      There are some very real advantages of modern digital systems, such as more reliable transmission over long distances and easier central switching without mechanical relays. But the robustness of the equipment and overall quality of the equipment that AT&T was providing for consumer use was not one of the problems of older phones.

    5. Re:Forget the hangup.... I'm missing by SomeKDEUser · · Score: 2

      If call quality was an important aspect of cell phones, Nokia would still rule the world. Apparently, angry birds is more important, so you get what most other people pay for.

  6. Uh... you can still hang up on someone... by drcagn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you want to hang up on someone and deliver the same experience, just shout "fuck you!" and tap the "end call" button. You get the same satisfaction and they'll get the message. Is that so hard?

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  7. Yes, and a generation of kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    yes, and a generation of kids will grow up clicking on a stylized picture of a floppy disk to save things, without having ever used a floppy disk.

    This is news how?

  8. SIGHUP by davidwr · · Score: 2

    Yeah, when my process gets a SIGKILL it doens't know what happened (or even THAT it happened), but when it gets a SIGHUP it knows someone or some thing hung up on it or at least pretended to.

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  9. Call center work by fredgiblet · · Score: 2

    I work in a call center where we still have physical phones (though we only use headsets), I remember hearing about one supervisor call where the sup eventually advised the customer that there was nothing more to discuss and he was going to end the call, he picked up the receiver, de-activated the headset then hung up the receiver, just for the sound.

  10. The best hangup by virb67 · · Score: 2

    The best hangup is when, mid-conversation, you whip your cell phone off a wall, smashing it into a million pieces. Didn't have those in the old hangup days, did you?

  11. I miss the hang up... by lxs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...about as much as I miss putting a new roll in the fax machine. i.e. not at all.
    But then again I bet if you look hard enough you'll find an old fart who thinks that VHS tapes are superior to Bluray.

  12. And before the phone? by Dog-Cow · · Score: 5, Funny

    Before we had the phone, there was no way to hangup at all! Let's lament the lack of smacking someone on the face and stalking off!

    1. Re:And before the phone? by dwye · · Score: 2

      Wrong. Slap a man's face, and his seconds would contact yours and arrange pistols for two and coffee for one; in the Old West, he would just draw on you, or, if Wyatt Earp, pull your revolver from your holster and pistol-whip you into unconsciousness. As for cowards and back room deals, how did the Templars lose everything, or what happened when Thomas Cromwell broke up the monasteries for King Henry VIII?

  13. Erh... it may be me, but ... how about SAYING so? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    I needn't slam a phone to tell the other person on the phone that I'm done with him.

    We recently invented a technology called "talking". It allows to "tell" them instead of using possibly ambiguous actions that may be misinterpreted. "Go to hell, you old bastard" is hard to misinterpret.

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  14. Hangup depends on the point of view by houghi · · Score: 2

    When I am in a conversation and the other person suddenly hangs up, I will know that the person calling was the cause or that it was a technical issue. Ask anybody and they will tell you that they can tell the difference.

    This is the case when I am on the phone and the other person calls with a cellphone. This happens when the other person is on a landline.

    What you do not have with a cellphone that you have with a landline is, as caller the satisfaction of slamming the horn down, missing the phone in anger and needing to slam it down several more times.

    If you missed, the callee could hear the callers frustration and giggle, However if he did not miss, you would not hear all the noise and you still were sure that the person hung up on you.

    So in the past you suddenly did not hear the person anymore. Now you suddenly do not hear the person anymore. There is no difference, except maybe in the theatrical sense.

    And yes, we still use the same words for things. That is language. I am sure there are many words we use for things that we do not even know what the original meaning was. That is why ethymology exists.

    My guess is that this is about trying to be nostalgic, while there is nothing to be nostalgic about.

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  15. Re:Hang-up, dial, ringing.. by verifine · · Score: 2

    No, not quite. That's not what "hang up" means.

    When I was a boy, you young whippersnapper, we had a candlestick phone (look it up: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/telephones/candlestick). When the phone rang our distinctive ring pattern, you picked up the candlestick with your right hand, then picked the receiver up with your left and held it to your ear. When the call was complete, you hung the receiver on its hook. Not placed, hung. That, sonny boy, is where the term "hang up" comes from.

    Since the telephone operator in town listened in to every call, she knew who was visiting who, so if I'd lift the receiver hook carefully to see if someone was on the party line, then hang up and give the magneto crank one long turn to call the operator, I'd ask in my little boy voice to talk to my aunt Della. The operator knew she was visiting Luella and put the call through. Our phone consisted of the candlestick, plus an oak box on the wall with brass bells and the ringer on the top, a crank on the right side for the magneto, and two dry cells with Fahnestock clips wired in series for power. The phone guy came out and replaced them twice a year. It wasn't even a "central battery" system in those days.

    The really scary part is, it's true. We had a candlestick phone until I was about 12 years old in '62 or '63 when we got our first party line dial phone. How freakin' old am I?

  16. Catch-22 by Ly4 · · Score: 2

    From Catch-22:

    "It takes brains not to make money," Colonel Cargill wrote in one of the homiletic memoranda he regularly prepared for circulation over General Peckem's signature. "Any fool can make money these days and most of them do. But what about people with talent and brains? Name, for example, one poet who makes money."

    "T. S. Eliot," ex-P. F. C. Wintergreen said in his mail-sorting cubicle at Twenty-seventh Air Force Headquarters and slammed down the telephone without identifying himself.

    ...

    General Peckem roused himself after a moment with an unctuous and benignant smile. His expression was shrewd and sophisticated. His eyes gleamed maliciously. "Have someone get me General Dreedle," he requested Colonel Cargill. "Don't let him know who's calling." Colonel Cargill handed him the phone.

    "T. S. Eliot," General Peckem said, and hung up.

    Today, someone would ponder why Wintergreen would slam down the phone, since that would break the screen.

  17. Why would you want to keep them? by rssrss · · Score: 4, Funny

    It took me years of psychotherapy to get rid of my hangups. Why would I be sad about their demise?

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  18. Re:What are these "dropped calls", then? by dwye · · Score: 2

    Where do you come from, 1960s or 70s France, or Eastern Europe?