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Bezos Expeditions Recovers Pieces of Apollo 11 Rockets
skade88 writes "Jeff Bezos has been spending his time fishing up parts of the Apollo 11 rockets. From his blog 'What an incredible adventure. We are right now onboard the Seabed Worker headed back to Cape Canaveral after finishing three weeks at sea, working almost 3 miles below the surface. We found so much. We've seen an underwater wonderland – an incredible sculpture garden of twisted F-1 engines that tells the story of a fiery and violent end, one that serves testament to the Apollo program. We photographed many beautiful objects in situ and have now recovered many prime pieces. Each piece we bring on deck conjures for me the thousands of engineers who worked together back then to do what for all time had been thought surely impossible.'"
Nothing here says there were from Apollo 11! Included in the post is the statement:
Which "reef" are you talking about?
The Remotely Operated Vehicles worked at a depth of more than 14,000 feet, tethered to our ship with fiber optics
Do reefs grow that low?
I'm not sure reefs grow at that depth. Even deep water reefs are barely over a mile deep. I'm not saying NOTHING is down there, but the junk at 3 miles down isn't keeping a reef from growing.
My brain is overly lubricated
How different do you think a jet engine, a combustion turbine and a turbo pump are?
You answered your own question.
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He's turning into some super villain. Wait, he was already one. nvm...
Well, one of them burns some sort of fuel to drive an impeller wheel connected to another impeller wheel to compress a working fluid, and the other, er, never mind...
Military ships remain the property of the owning government.
Spain has used this to claim the salvage of gold from treasure ships and won.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
If you think this makes him an incompetent CEO, then you should do something about it. You should immediately divest yourself of Amazon stock, because he is obviously taking the company in the direction of ruin. I'll be happy to buy up all your stock at half the current market price, which would be a bargain for you since you obviously believe this action will drive it straight to zero.
Oh, you don't believe that? Then shut the fuck up.
John
What's the duty of your job? Does it include making dumb comments on Slashdot, or is that just something you do in your spare time?
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Regardless of ownership of underseas artifacts, the finder only get's 10% . If they're taking from a civilian ship lost centuries ago, the finder only get's 10%. If the ship is a 'military' ship, salvaging a hold still only grosses the salvager 10%. But, the government doesn't necessarily own the military ships. Modern ships lost are often insured, in which case the insurance company owns the ship and it's contents, and the salvager still only get's 10%, the S.S. Port Nicholson is a good example where this is possible. I'm sure percentage is complicated if the 'owners' of a ship are unknown, EG ancient Roman ships; typically though the government which owns the territory 'owns' the territory the artifact is on and get's to keep 90%.
Now, I would enjoy hearing how it works out for Bezos claiming a 10% salvage lien on two priceless artifacts which cost many millions in the first place...
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Hugely overvalued from what I'm seeing.
Amazon: Makes products that almost nobody wants to buy, sells mostly stuff that other people make, is a middleman that would collapse tomorrow if Google ever decided to get serious about having a products marketplace, is at least lately losing money or barely breaking even, has over $3B in long-term debt, and misses earnings. Current P/E: 714.
Apple: Makes products that almost everybody wants to buy, sells mostly stuff that they designed, is a middleman mainly for software (and cannot be easily replaced in that capacity, at least in iOS, without replacing the hardware), made $13.1 billion in profit last quarter, has $137B in cash and liquid assets (with no debt), and usually makes or beats all but the most absurd estimates. Current P/E: 10.25
In no universe does this make sense except perhaps in one where the stock price is the multiplicative inverse of earnings. To give folks an idea of how jaw-droppingly bizarre this is, you need to factor in the cash/debt position of both companies. If you subtract Apple's cash per share from their stock price, and you get about $410, which is about 33.33 times their earnings last quarter. If you take Amazon's last-quarter EPS of 9 cents and multiply by 33.33, you get $3 per share. If you then subtract their debt per share ($3B / 454.55M shares outstanding comes to about $6.59), then by that same standard, Amazon's share value would be worth a whopping negative $3.59 per share....
Note that I'm not actually saying Amazon stock is worthless—I'd consider it to be worth about $30-50 per share, using last year's annual EPS and a sane 30x multiplier—but that still makes it overpriced by a factor of 8 even if you ignore this bad quarter. And that's assuming that Amazon straightens up their act and starts being profitable again in a quarter or two. If last quarter's trend continues for two or three more quarters, I'd expect Amazon's stock to be delisted for falling below a buck by this time next year, and if that doesn't happen, it means investors are asleep at the switch.
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The F1s were only used on the Apollo missions, and they were truly awesome -- they shook the ground like nothing you've ever experienced. My dad worked for NASA and we saw the flights. Even three miles away, it was scary powerful. To give you an idea, one of those F-1 has more power than 3(!) Shuttle MAIN engines -- and there were FIVE F-1s at the bottom of Saturn's first stage. So that's like fifteen shuttles taking off at once. You have no idea what that's like...
There are different ways to get the results. Your style evidently involves taking a hands on approach and being there the whole time. If that's what works for you great.
Bezos style differs. It looks as though he operates strategically and allows his reports to do the day to day management. I daresay that they can contact him when necessary and that he's able provide the leadership necessary remotely.
Is one style better than the other? I would say that depends on the capabilities of the team around the CEO and the comfort that CEO has in letting go a little.
Me, I'd delegate and respond better to someone that felt that they could delegate responsibility than to someone that felt they always hand to be there keeping an eye on things.
You may think me a tired, old, cynic. I'd have to disagree about the tired bit.
Thanx man, but I'm pretty sure I have tried searching on all the terms I could think of.
There does not seem to be a lot of history recorded on what space capsules they hauled over here to New Zealand to show us.
If I had a DeLorean... I would probably only drive it from time to time.
This is ancestral worship cargo-cultism of the highest order.
Bezos might as well be building a mockup of the command module from palm fronds on the lawn in front of congress.
Elon Musk has a much better name for a megalomaniacal billionaire super-villain anyhow.
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Now that's just silly. Those things aren't exactly secret designs, you know, and the engineers who worked on that project haven't all died out. Do you seriously think that SpaceX doesn't have a bunch of folks with relevant experience -- folks who have worked for NASA and/or the subcontractors? Never mind that there's a bunch of unflown F1 engines that you can just go and look at. Oh, and never forget that the Russians have flow engines with slighly more punch on Energia, and engines with that heritage are used in the current Zenit and Atlas V (!!). Yes, Atlas V uses half-sized versions of RD-171.
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