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Google Keep Labelled "Delete"

Posted by timothy on from the but-google-iterates dept.

judgecorp writes "The Google Keep note-keeping app has had a frosty reception. Analysts including Gartner have said its functionality is laughable compared to that of the rival Evernote (saying "it's like saying MSFT Paint is a threat to Photoshop") and other users have rejected it on the grounds that after the death sentence on Reader, Google can't be trusted not to pull the plug on a service which people have come to rely on."

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  1. delete? by jaymz666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe an extra l there?

    My first thought was "how can I trust them with this when they just killed reader?"

    1. Re:delete? by ALeader71 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed. If this doesn't take off, it may be a short lived service. I'll stick with Evernote.

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    2. Re:delete? by jaymz666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly, I will stick with the company that has their whole business model based in note taking and similar services.

    3. Re:delete? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Google Keep does not affect your data even if Google would clean it off.

      Why? Because Google Keep is tied to Google Drive where it store notes. And they are just text, image and sound files. Nothing radical would not happen if you couldn't use Google Keep anymore.

      Google Reader does not kill RSS. There are plenty of RSS readers out there. Now it only demands that you need to sync readed/unreaded in different way but all the RSS feeds can be imported and exported to almost any reader. There is no such problem with Google Reader cleaned off.

      Media is talking about Google Reader as it kills RSS from WWW.

    4. Re:delete? by QAPete · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. First iGoogle, then Reader, two user-friendly, very efficient ways of getting stuff I want to see in front of my beady eyes. Google kills them both, and is constantly begging / pushing me to use Google +, which I have absolutely no wish to use. Both iGoogle and Reader were great examples of things Google did very well. Now they are putting their resources into things that OTHER companies do very well, like Google + and Google Keep.

      I have ties to Gmail I need for now, but beyond that I'm not getting involved in Google anything.

    5. Re: delete? by Tometheus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And my first thought was "how can I trust them with this when they killed G Notebook?" Not going to catch me twice with the exact same trick...

    6. Re:delete? by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Killing Reader didn't kill RSS. But killed all the ecosystem around it, both from apps and for the way you used it. Why i should do an alternative app that makes use of Keep if they could end it tomorrow? Why i use it to store notes if they could not be there tomorrow, and all that that was put there because that particular way of access is not there anymore?

      In any case, either with Drive or Takeout, you don't lose your data, but it lose a part of its value without the "right" way to access it, all of it. A bit more "bening" shutdown was Wave, that if well was discontinued but open sourced the server so you can continue using it in the same way elsewhere.

    7. Re:delete? by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Reader didn't kill RSS but it killed and stifled development of other RSS readers over the past 7 years.

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  2. Blog Spam - Move along. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't bother clicking the link.

    Yes, we're all mad about reader, and we all should be warned about cloud services shutting down.

    Next post please...

    1. Re:Blog Spam - Move along. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What is interesting is that they have angered the bloggers with killing reader. Maybe not a lot of people used reader, but apparently the people that do pimp out new google products to the masses. You can't blame them for having an axe to grind.

  3. Google Fool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I propose we now use "google" instead of "fool".

    Google me once, shame on you.
    Google me twice, shame on me.

    1. Re:Google Fool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I propose we now use "google" instead of "fool".

      Google me once, shame on you. Google me twice, shame on me.

      There's an old saying in Mountain View - I know it's in Redmond, probably in Mountain View - that says, Google me once, shame on - shame on you. Google me - you can't get Googled again.

  4. No? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Frosty reception? I beg to differ, people all over the internet seem to love it. Design especially.
    http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1aoo1a/google_keep_googles_notetaking_app_is_live_again/
    Check this reddit thread.
    Also it works with Google Now on Android, so i can say "Google..Note to self Fix the printer" and it will take the note, save the text AND audio file.
    I, personally, like it very much. Evernote is good, but something that integrated into android and synced with my Google account is much better for me.

    1. Re:No? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      Frosty reception? I beg to differ, people all over the internet seem to love it.

      Reddit is "all over the Internet"?

      The world has become such a sad place.

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    2. Re:No? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Isn't Gartner the firm that's been wrong about almost everything?

    3. Re:No? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They are the new and improved Netcraft. If Gartner confirms it you can be sure it isn't happening.

      Seriously, their entire business is providing "intelligence" that contradicts reality for company that find the facts inconvenient.

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  5. I thought features were passe? by timeOday · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I am starting to feel like a relic, because in my world, running a buch of feature-rich applications on a powerful computer with a large screen still seems like a great thing to do most of the time. All I see on the web is how "most people" don't use the full power of Word/Powerpoint/Outlook, therefore it should be removed. And then Microsoft comes out with Metro just to confirm my fears.

    It's nice to see an application (yeah, I typed out the whole word!) slammed for being too simplistic.

    1. Re:I thought features were passe? by Pope · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, Microsoft came out with Metro because they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

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  6. How can you trust google not to delete it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Said everyone with a gmail account. Honestly, even if they do you will still have a copy of your data synced on your devices and the precedent is that you'll be able to get your data anyway.

    1. Re:How can you trust google not to delete it by rgriff59 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I keep hearing phrases like, "Don't worry. They will give you a way to get your data." For some reason, that is supposed to be a determining factor. So what?

      Google says "Here is a fantastic new app to use. Please make part of your daily workflow." Some arbitrary amount of time later, Google says "Nevermind." If I have indeed made it a part of my workflow, I am required to change my workflow on their schedule on their notice. Maybe you are lucky enough to have never had life fall apart. Maybe you've never been so busy taking care of life changing issues, you could miss everything short of bombs exploding in your path. At such times, the last thing you need is for stupid little things, like a note taking app, to require attention.

      As Google has a proven record of discarding their "Wow, Cool, check this out!" technologies in a fairly short time, the risk of putting the newest into a position where it will exclusively control an important workflow is too high from my perspective. Sure, I can get my data. Then what do I do with it? I have this great XML dump that nothing else can make sense of. I need something to rely on, free or not.

      The fact that they announced this right on the heels of their spring cleaning product killing spree shows that as a company, they don't care. I, as an individual have the same sentiment about their new product. This has to be one of the worst marketing strategies ever attempted.

  7. Re:Well, you know the saying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can't use the word scroogle without sounding like the worlds biggest Microsoft shill.

  8. Re:I am Jack's total lack of surprise... by Jahava · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google knows what it's doing when it comes to search (including maps), and (after several years) Android - everything else is stuff built/rolled out/supported by disparate uncoordinated groups with no coherent strategy or purpose beyond "hey, this looks like something the PR guys would like."

    What a stupid statement. "They only knew what they were doing those times they did well." Most of their projects, with the exception of search, started out as disparate uncoordinated groups with no coherent strategy.

  9. Re:Oh shit!!! by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That is what I call "the batshit brigade" as these people treat corps like fucking ballclubs. I've noticed its primarily the big three, Apple, Google, and MSFT, but to a lesser extent you get the pro *.A.A "Anything a corp does is great because free market herpa derp!" and the pro gov "America Fuck Yeah!" types but not nearly as bad as the big three, you'd think they were a fucking ballclub.

    Now as far as Google...why SHOULD you trust them for a service you depend on after Reader? Its quite obvious there is a metric that if a service doesn't hit Google pulls the plug but they won't tell the user what the metric is, so why should I trust them? As much as I think Windows 8 is a flaming turd this is one thing I have to give MSFT credit for as I can tell you to the day when XP dies, when Vista dies, when 7 dies, and when their Office suites die so I really don't have to give a shit about the metrics. I just look at the date of EOL and that is that. Of course since their software works just fine after EOL (I should know as i had to support several Win2K units until last year) I don't even have to worry about that if I don't want to, but its nice to know.

    If Google wants us to depend on their services then they need to give us SOMETHING, anything, that will let us gauge what the support cycle is gonna be. A minimum support date like MSFT, publishing the current userbase along with the minimum number required for them to support it (which would have fixed the Reader problem as those that like Reader could have tried to drum up enough converts to fulfil the metric) or some other gauge so we have a damned clue as to how long its gonna be supported. As it is any service they have could disappear tomorrow because some PHB decides it doesn't meet a metric which we don't even know about and that stinks.

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  10. Re:Oh shit!!! by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What Microsoft gets,

    Yep, Microsoft products and their Kin will always play for sure!

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