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Can You Really Hear the Difference Between Lossless, Lossy Audio?

CWmike writes "Lossless audio formats that retain the sound quality of original recordings while also offering some compression for data storage are being championed by musicians like Neil Young and Dave Grohl, who say compressed formats like the MP3s being sold on iTunes rob listeners of the artist's intent. By Young's estimation, CDs can only offer about 15% of the data that was in a master sound track, and when you compress that CD into a lossy MP3 or AAC file format, you lose even more of the depth and quality of a recording. Audiophiles, who have long remained loyal to vinyl albums, are also adopting the lossless formats, some of the most popular of which are FLAC and AIFF, and in some cases can build up terabyte-sized album collections as the formats are still about five times the size of compressed audio files. Even so, digital music sites like HDtracks claim about three hundred thousand people visit each month to purchase hi-def music. And for music purists, some of whom are convinced there's a significant difference in sound quality, listening to lossy file formats in place of lossless is like settling for a Volkswagen instead of a Ferrari."

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  1. A lengthy, thorough, and well-explained discussion by EmagGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is a long discussion among very qualified individuals on this subject. You can read it here

  2. Re:Audiophiles might. by msauve · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mine goes to fiveier.

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  3. Re:No by Reverand+Dave · · Score: 1, Funny

    Agreed, if anyone is really such a purist that they think a file format is superior over another, they should either skip the argument and go see the band live, or kill themselves to save everyone else the hassle.

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  4. By my estimation... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

    By Young's estimation, CDs can only offer about 15% of the data that was in a master sound track...

    ... Neil Young is neither a Mathematician or Audio Engineer.

    [ -- insert appropriate Neil Young lyric for satirical effect here -- ]

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  5. Re:the answer is obvious, isn't it? by rudy_wayne · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's like asking "can you win a race against a Toyoda?" where do you even start with that....?

    Since Akio Toyoda is 30 years older than me, I'm pretty sure I could beat him in a race.

  6. Re:Better question by noh8rz10 · · Score: 5, Funny

    it doesn't matter how lossy or lossless the file is if you're listening with shitty white earbuds.

  7. Re:Better question by MarkGriz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or not using Monster Cable

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  8. Re:I grew up listening to music on the radio by Zemran · · Score: 4, Funny

    I listen in the truck with a blown exhaust and whilst getting high on the fumes, lossy or lossless? I have trouble noticing if the car radio is even turned on.

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  9. Re:A lengthy, thorough, and well-explained discuss by fredrated · · Score: 4, Funny

    You jerk! I clicked on that link!

  10. Re:No by osu-neko · · Score: 3, Funny

    Doesn't matter, the audiophile market is not rational (kind of like the wine market).

    Show me a rational market, and I'll have to inquire as to the nature and evolutionary history of the species of aliens participating in it.

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  11. Re:Better question by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Look, you want your 0's and 1's to look like stupid Comic Sans 0's and 1's or like high quality, stylish Zapfino 0's and 1's?

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  12. Re:Depends on the source by Entropius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes! Someday, instead of having real dog whistles, we'll just play back mp3's of dog whistles for our dogs, and those will only work if recorded in 24bit/96kHz!

    Also Monster Cable.

  13. Re:Better question by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's a myth. Monster cables are no better than cheaper products from other vendors.

    If you can hear a difference, then it's probably because you have your ethernet cable connected backwards.

  14. Re:A lengthy, thorough, and well-explained discuss by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

    You need to go deeper.

  15. Re:Depends on the bitrate by The+Mighty+Buzzard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, it still counts if you're listening to it on an episode of Tom & Jerry.

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