Tracking the Web Trackers
itwbennett writes "Do you know what data the 1300+ tracking companies have on you? Privacy blogger Dan Tynan didn't until he had had enough of being stalked by grandpa-friendly Jitterbug phone ads. Tracking company BlueKai and its partners had compiled 471 separate pieces of data on him. Some surprisingly accurate, some not (hence the Jitterbug ad). But what's worse is that opting out of tracking is surprisingly hard. On the Network Advertising Initiative Opt Out Page you can ask the 98 member companies listed there to stop tracking you and on Evidon's Global Opt Out page you can give some 200 more the boot — but that's only about 300 companies out of 1300. And even if they all comply with your opt-out request, it doesn't mean that they'll stop collecting data on you, only that they'll stop serving you targeted ads."
Give us a list of all companies and their affili-shit domains and I'll block them. I'll even add them to my 'Hosts' file just to make apk happy.
You could be using Tor, or surfing through a proxy, denying cookies, etc.
Why make it easy for them?
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Enough to drive an honest man to fraud.
Ghostery (Firefox plugin) allows you to block these trackers, it works great and you can also see when sites are loading the tracking code.
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Does anyone know how he got the data they had on him? I'm looking at the opt out pages he listed and I don't see data recovery functions.
And even if they all comply with your opt-out request, it doesn't mean that they'll stop collecting data on you, only that they'll stop serving you targeted ads."
That line is the most important part of the story. The phrase "opt out" has been redefined by the marketers. You can not opt out of being tracked, you can only opt out of being reminded that you are being tracked. That is more than useless because it defuses the people most likely to be unhappy about these trackers with a false sense of safety.
Your only way to avoid being tracked is not to ever talk to the trackers in the first place. For the less technically inclined, the Ghostery plugin for firefox is pretty much set it and forget it. If you can handle looking underneath the hood of the internet, check out Request Policy which gives you extremely fine grained control over what stuff a webpage can pull in from other webservers. I default block all cross-site includes from other domains and white-list them on an individual basis and it really isn't too inconvenient. Besides the privacy benefits, it makes web pages load super fast when they don't have to pull in crap from 15 other servers.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
1.) Install Ghostery. 2) Install AdBlock Plus. 3) Only accept cookies from sites you trust, and for best results clean those out regularly.
You can go the extra mile with NoScript, Tor, and so on, but even just doing Ghostery and turning off third-party cookies will knock out much of the problem.
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I use some domain blocking entries, plus a hosts file from http://pgl.yoyo.org/as/serverlist.php?showintro=0;hostformat=hosts on my router, with local DNS enabled. It redirects about 2500 URLs to 127.0.0.1. DD-WRT for the win! I would imagine other third-party firmware allows this, too. When I have company, they sometimes comment how much better the web pages look and how fast they load on their laptops when they use my AP. They also wonder why Facebook and Twitter don't work... :-)
When you're dead, you don't know you're dead. It only affects the people around you. Same thing when you're stupid.
So many ads on this guys site, that I couldn't read the whole thing, that ads were distracting me
I had a few users at work that were spending too much time on facebook, etc. and management asked me to block it except during breaks. So I fire up an old box and put squid on it and tell AD to force them to proxy through it.
I then did a tail -f on the /var/log/squid3/access.log file and howdy boy do some sites have a lot of crap called when you load a page. Even our small town local newspaper site would call up about 30 different domains on each page load. Some of them would put a java script in to refresh each minute to see how long one stayed on the page.
Now I see why I run no-script and ABP on my boxes.
I started blocking a lot of them but real work called and I'm guessing that I only got about a third of them.
The unfortunate thing is almost all the stuff on the web these days has a no-cache flag so running a proxy for web-cache/bandwidth reduction is almost useless. I only get about 2% cache hits.
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If you use a different browser or delete your cookies, your back in. Best just use a HOSTS file and say screw it
to sites that ask you to receive ads. I am starting to see thank you for not using Adware banners but blocking most of the ads.
HOSTS files don't protect vs. IP addressed adbanners (rare) &/or IP address utilizing malwares (rare too, most used domain/host names because they're "RECYCLABLE/REUSEABLE"), so here, you must couple HOSTS files w/ firewall rules tables (either in software firewalls OR router firewall rules table lists)
Knew you'd show up, as this is your area of expertise.
I was very disappointed I was able to log into evidon.com or adroll.com.
Can't find APK just yet but just might use a 1+ meg HOSTS file and do it backwards;
remove the sites I wish to visit as the HOSTS file blocks them.
2. Add NotScripts
3. Add FlashBlock
4. Add HTTPS Everywhere
5. Add Ghostery
6. Add AdBlock (cos why not)
That's your minimum kit to browse the web these days.
Ghostery's plan is to sell all of your information to advertising companies. This isn't a bad thing necessarily, but you should probably know that before you install it.
"In the absence of the ability to establish the attribute of truth they tried to establish the noble attributes."
It's not like we didn't notice yet that all sending an "opt-out" EMail accomplishes is to increase the value of your mail address because now it is confirmed to be one you actually use.
The only way to stop trackers is to mislead them with false information and block as many tracking as you possibly can. Relying on those that benefit from tracking to comply with your requests is naive at best.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
"I already bought this shit. GTFO!"
Nothing more annoying than searching for a product, BUYING said product, and then for weeks/months later being shown ads for said product that I no longer have an interest in... BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY GOT ONE, YOU SEE?!?!" /French accent
If you want to see Ghostery at work, try that link to the first opt-out site http://www.networkadvertising.org/choices/ with Ghostery running - the list of blocks scrolled right off the bottom of my page.
Hey APK,
Protip:
It's not the truth or value (or lack of) in your post that gets it modded into oblivion, it's the fucking insane length. In addition to TL;DR (which goes without saying for a post of such length), how about irritating readers by requiring them to scroll through 20+ screenfuls just to get to the next post.
If you want to publish a short story like this, please do everyone a favor and blog it somewhere, then provide a brief summary and link to your blog. Readers intrigued by your summary will go read your blog, and everyone else will just move along at normal /. speed.
Are you sure you are replying to a real person and not a script?
This being said, if a script has a blog I would definitely be intrigued by it!
lucm, indeed.
I don't see what is actually the problem. Isn't that better to have somehow targeted ads?
As for breaching my privacy: I'm just a record in billions of records for those companies. I'm pretty sure they don't give a shit about me as an individual, they care about categories and segments and groups. So what if they know which website I look at and how frequently. We are not talking about companies using my facebook pictures or my wishlist on Amazon, it's just ads.
lucm, indeed.
Dear Mr Coward, I read through your entire post but saw no mention of MyCleanPC anywhere. Surely this is the ultimate in PC threat prevention and cure?
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
On the Network Advertising Initiative Opt Out Page you can ask the 98 member companies listed there to stop tracking you and on Evidon's Global Opt Out page you can give some 200 more the boot
No, no you can't. I just tried the Network Advertising Initiative opt out page. It doesn't work. Out of 96 sites, 0 worked. I also tried Evidon. Looks like about only 80% of them can be shut off from that page. And now I have a horrible suspicion that all I've done is confirmed my existence to spammers.
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Good point! :-)
You do all that work of opting out and with a single click of the delete cookies button all your work and 200 different cookies just hit the shit fan. Google had a program that was installed to block tracking but i forgot what it was for. But opting out with a cookie is useless. It needs to reside somewhere other then the internet folder.
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NOW - As to myself on that very note??
Yes - I have been, a dozen times or more in actual respected WRITTEN PUBLICATIONS in the art & science of computing (would you like a partial list?)...
I enjoy a good read. Please enlighten me with some of your published works.