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IRS Spent $60,000 Producing Star Trek Parody

An anonymous reader writes According to the AP, the IRS is being "scolded for spending $60,000 dollars on an elaborate parody video that played at a 2010 conference. 'The video features an elaborate set depicting the control room, or bridge, of the spaceship featured in the hit TV show. IRS workers portray the characters, including one who plays Mr. Spock, complete with fake hair and pointed ears. The production value is high even though the acting is what one might expect from a bunch of tax collectors. In the video, the spaceship is approaching the planet 'Notax,' where alien identity theft appears to be a problem.' You can find the hilarious and/or nausea-inducing video on YouTube."

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  1. Our Tax Dollars by pubwvj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, this is better than some of the things our government spends our tax dollars on...

    1. Re:Our Tax Dollars by TemperedAlchemist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Like the F-35?

      It can't even go to warp.

    2. Re:Our Tax Dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which F-35? The imaginary Navy one, or the imaginary Army one, or the imaginary Air Force one, or the imaginary combined version, or the imaginary one that won't kill the pilot due to mechanical and electrical failures?

    3. Re:Our Tax Dollars by leromarinvit · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, this is better than some of the things our government spends our tax dollars on...

      I agree. Make Star Trek parodies, not war!

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    4. Re:Our Tax Dollars by chill · · Score: 4, Informative

      Liens, yes. Seizing a primary residence is almost unheard of now, except in the case of tax fraud. Back in the day this was common, but reform in the 80s changed the rules.

      "I can't afford it" will get you liens, garnishment and a payment plan but not your primary residence taken.

      "Income tax is Unconstitutional, I refuse to pay" is a whole 'nother story. Better supply your own lube."

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    5. Re:Our Tax Dollars by Macgrrl · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is beginning to sound parroty

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  2. Wrong... by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They spent all that money, and they still couldn't get the right uniforms.

    1. Re:Wrong... by wisnoskij · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The porno version had that problem as well.

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  3. A manufactured controversy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The IRS decided to produce videos in house instead of spending more money to hire outside contractors. Before they could start producing actual videos for use in training, public information, etc., they had to get up to speed with using their new video production facility. They had to make some dummy video during that checkout/internal training phase, so they chose to make parodies of Star Trek and Gilligan's Island. Big deal.

    1. Re:A manufactured controversy by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Additionally as regards this: "The video features an elaborate set depicting the control room, or bridge, of the spaceship featured in the hit TV show."

      Except it's pretty obviously green screen.

    2. Re:A manufactured controversy by Nimey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The low-information voters in the Republican base don't care about the truth, they want to reinforce their faith that the government is wasteful and can do no right.

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    3. Re:A manufactured controversy by Nimey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Could you keep going for a bit in that vein? I've almost got my Libertarian Talking-Points Bingo card filled out, you see.

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    4. Re:A manufactured controversy by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Informative

      The point is it's obviously been misrepresented. $60K wasn't spent on making this film. There was no expensive set. Just a few cheap costumes from a costume store.

      An earlier posts suggests that actually the $60K was spent on creating a production facility. And making this movie was just a byproduct of the training. That sounds more likely.
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576059&cid=43258781

      Of course if you're one of those people for whom everything the government does is wrong, you'll choose to believe the worst regardless of the truth.

  4. Re:Who gives a shit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My girlfriend works at a library. A patron throw a hissy fit the other day because she thought they had used way to much salt on the sidewalk (this is snow country) and threatened to call the Mayor.

    It costs about $1500 per day to run that library branch. Yet people freak out because they might use $1 more salt than necessary once a month to keep the City from being sued by somebody slipping and falling. This is how people think.

  5. The guy playing the captain... by macbeth66 · · Score: 4, Funny

    had a good screen presence. With a little training, he might be as good as William Shatner.

  6. Good PR by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Look at the Star Trek cosplay, not the firearms we're stocking up on!

    The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) intends to purchase sixty Remington Model 870 Police RAMAC #24587 12 gauge pump-action shotguns for the Criminal Investigation Division. The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.

    (not that it's much compared to the DHS)

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  7. Re:Who gives a shit? by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Assuming you have an unlimited amount of time, yes.

    But in reality, making mountains out of molehills is a clever form of filibuster. It gives you a "tough" image even while you distract debate from the real mountains.

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  8. Re:Who gives a shit? by joe_frisch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry, 60K really is a tiny amount of money for a government agency. Maybe the video was a bad idea. Maybe it was a morale booster. Maybe it distracted thousands of employees from their miserable pay checks. I don't care. The money wastage in the government is the multi-billion dollar unnecessary, or overdone projects (TSA, F35, etc), not a few tens of K spent here and there on entertainment for thousands of people.

      If your income is low, then you are right, the $2 coffees add up. If you are making payments on a $20M house, and traveling by biz-jet, then coffee is not the place to try to save money.

    Companies often spend money to entertain or motivate their employees. They do this because sometimes the morale boost is worth far more than what it costs.

  9. Re:Who gives a shit? by Richy_T · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's all about the mindset. When you think of it as play money instead of money that people have sweated to earn and might otherwise be used for medical procedures, safer environments for children or otherwise improving quality of life, you get this kind of thing happening and it's symptomatic of a much bigger problem.

  10. Many corporations do. by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Informative

    Somebody needs to work on their reading comprehension skills:

    Q Why does the IRS even have a film studio?
    A ...to make training films and informational videos for taxpayers.

    If you'd even browsed you'd find out that they have one for training videos because they found out they could do them cheaper in house than farming them out. It's not too surprising if you have either (a) a large number of videos to produce or (b) in-house technical staff with surplus time. I suspect (a) is correct as the congress changes tax law - Every Fucking Year - and all of the agents need to be retrained. Sending in-person trainers is even more expensive.

    You'd be surprised at how many large companies have their own film and sound studios for in-house work. It doesn't take too big an operation to justify having one over paying a contractor to do it every time you need something updated.

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  11. Re:Who gives a shit? by joe_frisch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Right - what has the government done for us.... (insert monty python quote here)
    education , sanitation, roads, police,

    Seriously, try to imagine what the US would be like without a government, or if people had to pay specifically for the services they wanted. You may not like the police but would you prefer Blackwater hiring out as private security? No public education for the poor? Private roads closed to non-members? No water systems? It would be a hell on earth - a scaled up Somalia.

    Sure, there is out of control government spending but its a lot better than no government at all.

  12. Re:Who gives a shit? by demonlapin · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why is it that every time someone complains about the size of the federal government, people feel like listing a bunch of things that are done by state and local governments as an example of why government is great?

    Incidentally,

    You may not like the police but would you prefer Blackwater hiring out as private security?

    My neighborhood - and this is a normal, non-gated, houses $150-$200k neighborhood - has a private security force that patrols part time, because the police won't do their job. It is far from the only one like it.

    No public education for the poor?

    Setting aside the larger question of whether or not they actually educate those poor people, are publicly owned and operated schools staffed with government employees the only way we can think of to provide education to the general public? All my education tax money goes down the drain - my city's schools are unusably bad; I never spent a day in them, and neither will my children. My wife did work in the administration of the local school system before we married, and it firmly convinced her that the entire operation was a complete waste.

    Private roads closed to non-members?

    You mean like the NY, NJ, PA, OH, IN, and IL turnpike systems? The Dulles toll road? There are plenty of roads you have to pay to use, and yes, they were often privately owned and maintained in the early days of the country.

    No water systems?

    I guess you've never seen rural areas where water is in fact often supplied by a cooperative owned by the people who receive it? Even here in a city, where the incredibly disruptive nature of water and sewer services mean that they're always going to be provided by government (too hard to get permission to tear up all the streets otherwise), we pay for our water just like we pay for natural gas or electricity - fee for service.

    I'm not an anarchist, but acknowledging that we have to have some government is not carte blanche for said government to waste other people's money, and if you sometimes sound like the crazy old guy complaining over the cost of paperclips used by the city, that doesn't mean it's always a bad idea.

  13. Re:Who gives a shit? by Gimric · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The three largest expenses of the US Federal government are Social Security, Healthcare and the military. If defense was handled at the state level it would be difficult to prevent some states being free-riders, particularly land-locked states. Healthcare and social security could possibly be handled at the state level but the costs would still exist and would result in a great deal of duplication. Also, big business would love to be able to play individual states off against eachother for the best tax deal. It would be a very different country - in fact each state would operate much more like an individual country with all the potential for internal conflict that that entails.

    This doesn't excuse waste, but it is extremely naive to think that large corporations are intrinsically any less wasteful and bureaucratic than government departments once they achieve a certain size.

  14. Re:720p : I love how they include the HD Option by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 4, Informative

    $1,000? Let's say you pay minimum wage to the actors for a day of shooting.

    5 actors * 10 hours * $8 = $400
    Camera rental = $200 (Minimum)
    Light rental = $100 (Minimum)
    Greenscreen 20' = $100

    Whoops we've used up your $1,000 budget and we still don't have:
    An editor ($150 minimum)
    No sound (Add another $100)
    No poorly done 3D animation (Another $100)
    You didn't pay a camera operator to setup and point your camera (Another $150 minimum)

    Now you need to include the time for someone to "write" it. Probably would take a day. Another $150 minimum even if your employee was working for minimum wage.

    Are you going to shoot in a room at the IRS? You have to account for your Janitor then clearing the room of furniture. Let's say $50 for 2 hours work. Still cheaper by a factor of 10 or more than renting a stage.

    Oh yeah, the actors have to wear something. Add $60 per actor * 7 actors = $420
    ________
    $2,120.

    Also that $30k per video number is meaningless since it includes setting up a whole new in-house studio, stage space, purchasing lights, buying computers etc. If they produced 30 videos (1 per week) for the rest of the year, every video next year would be saving tax payers money.

  15. Re:2010: 84,475,933 income tax payers by isorox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For instance the 2009 Iraq war spending ($95.5B) was about $1.13 per tax paying household. On the other hand, the 2010 $521 billion cost of Medicare was funded by grabbing $6167.43 on average from each tax paying household.

    Score -1 Major math fail.

    95 billion is about 1/6th of 520 billion. Therefore Iraq costs 1/6th the Medicare budget based on your figures.

    Your figures say that there are about 90 billion households in the u.s. based on your iraq figures of 95 billion / $1.1

    I guess you have deliberately confused millions with billions to try to make a political point. Your figures should probably say iraq cost $1100 per household in one year.