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Windows Blue 9364 Screenshots Show Feature Enhancements

An anonymous reader writes "As expected, a new pre-public version of Windows Blue (build 9364) has leaked online and it reveals a handful of features that are coming in the next big Microsoft Windows 8 update." Several sites have screenshots from the build; Hot Hardware says "Assuming this is all completely legitimate, the most obvious change pertains to the Metro UI, including greater flexibility in sizing Live Tiles and customizing the Start screen, particularly as the Personalize setting (among others, including Devices and Share) is now under the Settings charm. The Name Group feature for the Start menu looks a little more polished, too."

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  1. And it still looks like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shit.

    1. Re:And it still looks like by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately, I have to agree.

      If they would have even hinted at bringing back the normal desktop, it would have been big news. Well, at least they didn't mandate ribbon menus on all applications written for Windows. But then, until they ditch Metro, I'm afraid that enterprise adoption will remain a little slow...

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    2. Re:And it still looks like by spd_rcr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I keep getting suckered into this articles just to see if the failing PC market has finally forced them to pull their heads out of their *sses and reinstate the desktop by default and the start button...

      Maybe I'd better luck wishing for some higher res displays as standard on notebooks... How is it that cell phones need 1080p displays, but for doing real work, 1366x768 is supposed to be great ?!

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    3. Re:And it still looks like by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Windows 2000 desktop please..

      Some of us just want to use a pc, not get entertained by dancing buttons and other crap.

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    4. Re:And it still looks like by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They're going to keep heading that direction, and the old desktop is going to go away. The problem with the old desktop is that they don't get 30% of the cost of every piece of software installed on it. They they people will knuckle under and pay it, because their only choices other than Windows is Apple, who will most likely have the same app store lock-in in OSX by then as well, and Linux. They figure the extra money is worth the loss of customers. Personally, I'm hoping there is a rush to Linux and they die a horrible death, but I'm probably overly optimistic.

    5. Re:And it still looks like by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why don't you just run Wine on Linux?

      Because Wine is broken? I mean, other than that, well sure.

      Me, I run XP in a VM. Works fine. I don't let it on the Internet because, well, it's Windows, and Microsoft has trained me not to trust them... but other than that, does everything I want it to. Office, my legit copy of developer studio, image processing apps, testing the Windows version of the software I develop... Do the same thing with linux, for that matter, except it's well designed enough not to hose itself just because there is a network connection.

      Virtual machines: For those of us who are tired of solutions that don't work very well.

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    6. Re:And it still looks like by jhoegl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can get around the start menu, I can get around the interface changes, I can even deal with the "control panel" not remembering my settings (I always have to select small icons), but until they fix Windows 8 to enable the reason for Windows existance, easy interface for multi-tasking... then they can literally fuck off.

    7. Re:And it still looks like by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Interesting

      their only choices other than Windows is Apple

      Which decade are you living in? The #1 OS in the world right now is Android... so linux. This is a trend that will continue. Unless Microsoft makes windows absolutely free, they are dead to the world. I think Windows 9 or whatever they will call it will be their last hurrah. My company, who still uses Winxp and never trys anything new is test bedding several linux distros with some users for the first time ever. I was shocked, but the trial is going fantastically... I never thought it would happen in my lifetime but Linux may just beat Microsoft yet.

    8. Re:And it still looks like by aXis100 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And somehow desktop shortcuts, quicklaunch bars, favourite apps, and pinned apps didnt help you???

    9. Re:And it still looks like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      they can literally fuck off

      By that, do you mean that at the moment, they are capable of fucking off, but they'll lose this capability when they fix the interface?
      Hey, and now that we're on the subject anyway; what exactly is fucking off? I have trouble imagining how to have sexual intercourse with such an abstract concept named "off".

      *sigh*, the use of the word "literally", is literally not always correct! It drives me figuratively crazy!
      Maybe because liter is a metric unit?

    10. Re:And it still looks like by DragonTHC · · Score: 4, Informative

      classic shell brings it back.

      or if you're a paying customer, start8 by stardock.

      I use Windows 8. I rarely ever see metro.

      I find it useless and frustrating. Not because I think it's poorly designed. But because it's forced on the wrong device. My PC is not a tablet.

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    11. Re:And it still looks like by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ya know what pisses ME off about Metro/Win 8 way of doing things? Not only does it give you NO fucking choice in the matter but things that took one click now take 3 or more, and things that take a couple takes a shitload of submenu bullshit! Take safe mode, push F8 and there ya go, right? WRONG, now its shift PLUS F8 PLUS 3 fucking pages of extra options to get through when all you want is safe mode!

      I get the "fun" of finding drivers for a Toshiba that was "made for Win 8" therefor doesn't fricking have drivers for anything else. i tried warning the guy but he was all "How bad can it really be?"...snicker...he called me 3 weeks later saying "Take this God damned thing OFF my PC! I hate this stupid thing!" and frankly he IS the target audience, has little exp with computers and needs lots of hand holding but win Metro is laid out so damned stupid and has so much extra shit running (like the live tiles mess, which seriously sucks ass on wifi with limited bandwidth) its slowing his little Bobcat laptop to a fricking crawl. When he asked "Does Win 7 REALLY make that big of a difference?" all I had to do was hand him my Bobcat netbook and say "our chips are virtually identical, try it and see" and it didn't take him 10 minutes before he said "That's it, I've had it, make that damned Win 8 go away".

      This is NOT hyperbole, this is NOT from someone who has trouble picking up new OSes, hell I can run a half a dozen including the more esoteric Linux DEs along with Android and iOS but this...its just fucking stupid, it makes assumptions and acts like its on a damned cellphone, expects touch (which will NOT be coming to a good 95%+ of desktops and laptops because holding your arm out like that isn't pleasant and the cost is too high for large touchscreens) and frankly tries its damned best to get in your way and treat you like a moron. this is the first MSFT OS since WinME I will NOT have in my shop and if they refuse to listen to their customers and give us the option of killing this shit dead I predict MSFT will be the next RIM, a company that USED to be a big deal but only has legacy customers that are looking for the exit.

      And if on the off chance any MSFT bigwigs read this? Hi, I'm your customer, I sell and support your product and you are ROYALLY FUCKING UP if you think you can use the damned desktop to EEE your way into the cellphone market, you can't, it won't work, it would be like putting a bubble on a moped and calling it a car hoping to break into the 2 wheeler market off the backs of your car buyers. If you want to compete with Apple in mobile? Then SPIN OFF MOBILE and let them sink or swim on their own, you have hundreds of millions of customers that are either hanging onto what will soon be a two release behind OS of yours or looking at your competitors and that is NOT the way to do business. The desktop is NOT touch, will not BE touch, and nobody wants their PC to be a giant smartphone. Hell watch the video, even usability experts, you know, the people actually PAID the big bux to design UIs? Yeah even they say your design is stupid. The PC is designed for content CREATION and you are trying to push a content CONSUMPTION only design and ya know what? Not gonna work, hell Win 8 has worse numbers than fricking Vista.

      So please MSFT, just stop it, its not gonna work, you can't "pull an IE" and jam your OS into a space where nobody wants it, not like this. All you are doing now is making yourselves look like a bunch of idiots run by marketing drones...which sadly really isn't far off if you look at the output. You are NOT Apple, Redmond is NOT Cupertino, just stop it already because you are just embarrassing yourself.

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    12. Re:And it still looks like by DragonTHC · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can't do it anymore because they implemented search so you can just start typing for what you want and eliminate all those numbered steps. So old fashioned.

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    13. Re:And it still looks like by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can get around the start menu, I can get around the interface changes, I can even deal with the "control panel" not remembering my settings (I always have to select small icons), but until they fix Windows 8 to enable the reason for Windows existance, easy interface for multi-tasking... then they can literally fuck off.

      Dude, why would you possibly expect 'Microsoft Windows' to handle window management? And why would you want window management, and multiple monitors and stuff, when you could be squinting around your thumbs on a 10 inch tablet? Get with the Future!

      The fact that having multiple monitors is cheaper and easier than it has ever been isn't a good thing, it's a temptation designed to corrupt and destroy the weak minded. Resist, brother, and embrace the all-full-screen-all-the-time-for-fuck-knows-what-reason future!

    14. Re:And it still looks like by Entropius · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We don't, and we did.

    15. Re:And it still looks like by Kjella · · Score: 5, Informative

      No one wants a degraded experience and whoever made the spec for LCD to only use the max and use software degradation tricks to still display should be taken out in a field and shot!

      The old CRTs don't have a physical screen grid, it's just an electron beam in the back that can sweep over the screen and draw how many lines you want it to. On an LCD screen every pixel is a physical unit, they can't move or change size. "Whoever made the spec for LCD" only chose what was possible instead of the impossible. Personally I tend to blame the software if it must run in some specific resolution and games should be configurable so you can play them at high resolutions with low quality. There's no good excuse for why a game should do worse at rendering directly in high resolution instead of rendering in low resolution and then upscaling.

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    16. Re:And it still looks like by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dude, why would you possibly expect 'Microsoft Windows' to handle window management?

      Microsoft Windows Tiles -- you don't know whether to pee or leave.

    17. Re:And it still looks like by drawfour · · Score: 3, Informative

      What do grammar trolls have to do with anything? Grammar is about the syntax and structure, not about the definition of the word.

    18. Re:And it still looks like by kthreadd · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like a big opportunity for Linux and FVWM95!

    19. Re:And it still looks like by epyT-R · · Score: 3, Insightful

      yeah, because having to take your hand off the mouse constantly to use a stupid search box is much faster than a quick hotkey combo. For those of us who know how to use hotkeys, they're much faster than search boxes or idiotic fisher price full screen menus. Having the search box at all is a concession that your gui sucks because the whole point is to NOT have to type much or guess at what you're looking for. If you're going to add search boxes to every window, then just give me a full fledged command prompt back again.

    20. Re:And it still looks like by epyT-R · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1. starting a program should not be a fullscreen interruption that requires you to navigate a scrolling panel of oversized tiles. this is not better than a little menu that offers easy access to links.
      2. search boxes do not make up for shitty gui layouts. in fact they're crutches for bad layouts. a lot of people around here seem to think they excuse shitty guis, but they don't. search boxes that let users 'guess the command you want' are not as efficient and far more stressful than a simple, well laid out GUI...or command prompt for that matter.

    21. Re:And it still looks like by polyp2000 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are you hoping that the word "goatsean" enters the dictionary? Id love to see the explanation!

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    22. Re:And it still looks like by Canazza · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, what should we call them then? Lexicomrades?

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    23. Re:And it still looks like by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      TIFKAM, which MSFT has said repeatedly "is the future" as in "the desktop is on borrowed time" is NOT DESIGNED for multitasking, the best it can do is one program taking 3/4s of the screen and the other stuffed in a strip. The reason for this is simple..TIFKAM is a bad design which not only doesn't follow tablet or cellphone conventions frankly it doesn't follow ANY conventions that I can see, unless "try to piss off the user" is a convention I've never heard of.

      I used WinME for nearly 8 months, used Vista for over a year, Win 8 frankly had me ready to pull my hair out at barely the two month mark. When I got rid of Win 8 for Win 7 it was like a weight lifting off my chest, and I honestly wouldn't take that OS if you paid me. In fact as buggy as it was I'd take Vista over Win 8 because at least with Vista with enough tweaking you could get it to behave, no matter what you do Win 8 is always gonna suck, suck more resources, suck more cycles, just plain suck period because its not designed for desktops and laptops, its designed for cellphones and tablets. Nobody else is stupid enough to stick a cellphone UI on their desktop, gotta at least give MSFT credit for that "innovation". Still doesn't make it any less stupid.

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    24. Re:And it still looks like by oji-sama · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wait. Around 11 minutes it shows desktop. And complains about something that works the same way as in Windows 7. And apparently he refuses to use Windows key, which was the easiest way to start programs in 7 and continues to be that in 8. (click and type a few letters. The same way he could have opened the control panel. Or searched the control panel to create recovery. Like in Windows 7.). Oh well, I changed from Unity to Gnome Classic and I guess I need to install some kind of Modern UI replacement for Windows as well. Sorry, I think I've seen enough of the video.

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    25. Re:And it still looks like by RaceProUK · · Score: 3, Informative

      I got used to launching stuff very rapidly by hitting Winkey + R + command + Enter

      Still works on Vista, 7 and 8. Even better, the 'R' is optional.

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  2. Horrible Horrible Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only connection people already know between Windows and Blue is the Blue Screen of Death. In fact, it took me a minute to realize this wasn't about 9364 screenshots of BSODs.

    1. Re:Horrible Horrible Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I concur. Was imperative to read the summary, until then I was looking forward to seeing the advancements in the BSOD.

  3. Charms? Live Tiles? by ThorGod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a Win7 user, did anyone else feel completely lost reading the summary?

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    1. Re:Charms? Live Tiles? by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not lost per se, but only because I had to endure a bit of a tour (my last employer was a Microsoft Premier/Platinum/Perpetual/etc partner - they drink the koolaid by the tankerload.)

      All I can say is, thanks to a recent layoff and job search, I was able to quickly winnow out the intelligent IT departments from the flaming morons. The ones with intelligence are holding off on W8 until either Microsoft fixes that Metro garbage into usability, or a decent 3rd-party enterprise-ready UI bolt-on comes into play. Their explanations as to why ranged from the standard 'wait-forever-before bothering', to some very reasoned responses that made perfect sense (mostly revolving around training costs, incompatibilities, and etc) The one prospective employer I avoided with haste is busy trialing W8 among their IT folk for a push out to their users starting at the end of this quarter, but with little regard to testing with users outside their IT department.

      In-depth grilling into how they think and react as a department is a must if you can do it. It reveals a lot about what you're walking into, but the trick is to blow past the buzzwords and get them to really explain it.

      (My views may be a bit biased though - I'm finally going back into Linux administration with a kick-ass new employer...)

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    2. Re:Charms? Live Tiles? by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I can agree to that, but only to an extent - doing so would show that Microsoft is playing a short game, not a long one.

      Win7 will likely hang around enterprises for at least the next 5-7 years (or more) if this is the case, but then what? An "enterprise" version that has the familiar desktop?

      I'm not seeing anyone, not even Microsoft, demanding that the workplace convert over to touch-screen UIs, even in a distant future. The reason why is as close as the nearest heavy user of Excel...

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  4. Idiocracy! by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Christ almighty! Would someone please tell Microsoft that Windows 8 is a content consumption platform whereas the corporate world needs a multi-tasking UI. This is fucking bullshit!

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    1. Re:Idiocracy! by Goodyob · · Score: 5, Funny
    2. Re:Idiocracy! by JDG1980 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Guess what? Consumers generally consumes content on their computers... you know, the vast majority of human beings.

      And most of those consumers have already largely switched to smartphones and tablets. In a vain attempt to win them back, Microsoft has sacrificed their competitive advantage with business users – you know, the ones who actually pay the vast majority of their licensing fees...

    3. Re:Idiocracy! by Lendrick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It doesn't really give you both, though. The whole thing is built to make it inconvenient to use in desktop mode, because now you have to go back to a full screen menu every time you want to start another application. The purpose of Windows 8 is to throw Metro in your face, so as to push Windows developers to use Metro, and therefore be forced to go through Microsoft's app store (or whatever the fuck they're calling it since Apple apparently owns the phrase "app store"). Short of purchasing extra programs, there's no way to avoid fucking around with Metro when using Windows 8.

    4. Re:Idiocracy! by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The "vast majority of human beings" don't sign massive EA contracts that pay Microsoft's bills.

      We'll see how it shakes out when enterprises begin tinkering with OSX and/or Linux on larger scales towards the end of their upgrade cycles.

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    5. Re:Idiocracy! by a_mari_usque_ad_mare · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I use Windows 8 on my school laptop (grad student in materials engineering) and I am not thrilled with the news of this update. Everything they mention is related to metro, the touchscreen interface for Windows 8, with nothing on the desktop/laptop side. The main complaint with Windows 8 was that the metro stuff should have been optional, as it is not needed or wanted on a normal PC. With the Blue update we see that after hearing the criticism and commentary from the release of Windows 8, MS' only response is a few tweaks here and there.

      I'm worried by MS' attitude more than anything else, like the idea that the desktop is just for legacy software, and that metro is the future. Metro or whatever you want to call is not the future of the PC. It not even the future of touch. It's an also-ran, second rate touch OS, and it continues to sell poorly next to iOS and Android. I've used all 3 OS' on touch devices, and even there metro is not great. Alot of buttons and controls are hidden by default, so you are always trying to toggle between different views. Maybe someone spiked the water in Redmond, because I never imagined that after winning the desktop OS wars they would just lose interest and abandon their users.

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    6. Re:Idiocracy! by fredgiblet · · Score: 3, Informative

      I seriously doubt that MS is dropping the desktop or considering it legacy. The reality is that Microsoft is unifying their interface across phone, tablet and computer and since tablets are the future and tablets use touch, touch is the priority. This is obviously imperfect for those of us who still use traditional form-factor computers, but in 5-10 years we'll be a minority (if not sooner).

      I think that Metro is actually Microsoft, for the first time in a long time, being ahead of the curve. I expect Apple will be following suit within a few years.

    7. Re:Idiocracy! by SpazmodeusG · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That screenshot doesn't show just how bad windows management in Metro is. There's actually no way to display two apps side by side. You know how you sometimes like to read a PDF on one half of the screen and an editor in the other? You can't do that. Metro application have two modes. Fullscreen or snapped into a 320px narrow margin.

      It's quite telling that the Windows Blue preview advertises "you can run two apps side-by-side for better multitasking". Metro is so bad at Window management even the newest version will be nowhere near the abilities of Windows 1.0. You can't arbitrarily size programs. That might be acceptable for a phone but it's just ridiculous on a PC.

    8. Re:Idiocracy! by epyT-R · · Score: 3, Insightful

      man you people just don't get it

      If you're resigned to typing out executable names, then you don't need a gui or menu at all, fullscreen or otherwise, ergo metro is useless

      If you want to start programs with out extra keyboard/mouse/(touchscreen) context switching, a little menu in the corner is far better than a fullscreen context interrupting scrolling pile of crap, ergo metro is useless.

      It's meant for a touchscreen! Stop making excuses for it!

    9. Re:Idiocracy! by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Dude do you think keyboard and mouse survived for 30+ years because...what, nobody could build a pad? The K&M has survived this long because it is the most efficient interface for complex tasks. Sure if all you want to do is surf or passively watch video? Then touch is fine but all that content has to be created somewhere and pads just don't cut it once the software UI gets any measure of complexity.

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  5. yay for progress! by Osgeld · · Score: 5, Funny

    one of the featured screenshots being a calculator that will suck up every inch of my large desktop monitor, take that you 20 year old serial terminal in the other room and your fucking text based "windows"

  6. Refusing to give customers what we want by JDG1980 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Several sites have screenshots from the build; Hot Hardware says "Assuming this is all completely legitimate, the most obvious change pertains to the Metro UI, including greater flexibility in sizing Live Tiles and customizing the Start screen, particularly as the Personalize setting (among others, including Devices and Share) is now under the Settings charm. The Name Group feature for the Start menu looks a little more polished, too."

    They don't get it, do they? Power users and most business users don't want to tinker with the Metro UI. We want to be able to get rid of it and boot straight into the Desktop with a traditional Start Menu.

  7. How not to design a tiling window manager by knarf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can sort of see what Microsoft is trying to do with Windows 8. The idea is not theirs, nor is it a new idea. It actually goes back a long, long time. When GUIs were born designers wanted to implement direct-manipulation as much as possible. The user had to be able to grab anything, drag and drop and click and whatnot it. This included the windows used by programs, if the user wanted to have that giant word processor in a 50x50 pixel window overlapped by a dozen other windows then they should be able to.

    Now that GUIs are old hat, all that direct manipulation is getting a bit long in the tooth. Shuffling windows around, organizing them 'just' so is just as inefficient as doing the same to text in a word processor. Why not leave all that repetitive work to the computer? That is what machines are for, after all? In short, Microsoft has discovered the advantages of tiling window managers.

    The sad part is that they seem to have forgotten to study the subject before designing Windows 8. All they had to do was install one of the many available existing tiling window managers on a unix of choice and give it a whir. Xmonad or dwm or any of the others do an infinitely better job of it than Windows 8 does. They work with the user, not against him/her.

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  8. Re:Blue? by jader3rd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why is a Windows release named after its most famous failure screen? Is the marketing department that ignorant?

    Because they're willing to be bold and daring.

  9. Perhaps your looking at the wrong OS. by tuppe666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe I'd better luck wishing for some higher res displays as standard on notebooks... How is it that cell phones need 1080p displays, but for doing real work, 1366x768 is supposed to be great ?!

    ...maybe you should look at a chromebook like the pixel. [2560 x 1700 at 239 PPI] which has a higher than 1080P resolution :)

    http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebook-pixel/

    1. Re:Perhaps your looking at the wrong OS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, the Chromebook hardware looks great, if it ran a proper OS I'd be interested.

  10. You're looking at it wrong. by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Funny

    My suggested Windows 8 slogan: "Nowhere to go but up!"

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  11. Not Google by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Its ironic that both of these groups are moving over to a Google Os.

    LOL. It's not ironic. It's imaginary. There's no significant move towards Google Chrome or Google anything else for that matter in the OS space. There are three players, and only three: Microsoft, Apple, and linux. Apple's got the ball right now, as their machines can run all three OS's, all at once, legally and legitimately. If you're worried about movement, worry about Apple. Google? No chance.

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  12. Linus Agrees :) by tuppe666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...but loves the hardware.

    https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/dk1aiW4JjHd L "I'm still running ChromeOS on this thing, which is good enough for testing out some of my normal work habits (ie reading and writing email), but I expect to install a real distro on this soon enough. For a laptop to be useful to me, I need to not just read and write email, I need to be able to do compiles, have my own git repositories etc..
    "

  13. Why all the hate? by TheRealQuestor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have been using 8 since the 1st preview and I have come to really like it. A LOT. I did NOT like it in the early days as I was die hard windows 7 user and it is a great OS. But 8 is 7 after a couple more years of refinement. Do I like Metro? nope. Do I want a touch screen? nope. I hate fingerprints on my screens! But thanks to apps like Start8 I don't even have to know there is a metro ui. [though there are a few nice apps there].

    There just are so many refinements in 8 that I could never consider going back to 7.
    Is it perfect? nope. But the parts that irk me are few and far between.
    It really is fast, it really is rock solid stable, and it get's out of my way and lets me actually get work done.
    I'm sure I am going to be modded to hell for this but it is a great OS. I'm not a shill, nor do I have a gun pointed at my head to say this. I just am a old fart who likes my PC and I really do like 8.