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JMS and Wachowskis Teaming Up for New Netflix Funded Scifi Series

Via Engadget, comes a press release that might bring joy to fans of science fiction dismayed by years without any new scifi shows: "Continuing its quest to sate subscribers' appetites with a flow of original content, Netflix has announced a new original series, Sense8. Due in late 2014, it's being developed by the Wachowskis of The Matrix, V for Vendetta, Cloud Atlas and Speed Race fame, as well as J. Michael Straczynski, creator of Babylon 5. Details are thin, but the press release promises a gripping global tale of minds linked and souls hunted with a ten episode run for its first season." Hopefully it'll end up available on DVD eventually, for us poor GNU/Linux users who are not worthy enough for Netflix (or: to any Netflix engineers reading, make it work).

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  1. Re:Real topic: by rotaryexpress · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You might want to read the news... http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/11/03/16/1836233/netflix-to-start-creating-original-content House of Cards was the first series and is top notch. Amazon is doing the same thing (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417007,00.asp), as is Youtube (http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/10/17/2043252/original-content-coming-to-youtube) and Hulu (http://blog.hulu.com/2013/01/08/2013-original-and-exclusive-series-preview/). This is one of the most exciting trends in video entertainment today.

  2. Netflix works on linux by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Informative

    Netflix has been working in wine for quite a while.
    http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html

    Way to be out of date slashdot.

    1. Re:Netflix works on linux by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 3, Informative

      Netflix has been working in wine for quite a while.

      4 months of "working" is still Alpha/Beta stage in FOSS time. WINE is great and a lot of blood, sweat and tears has been put into the effort but in the end, it's a recipe for disaster if you have read incantations from the Necronomicon (wget+curl+./configure+make+make install|patch -p1|at>cron|bash -x /bin/sh|blah blah blah...) just to get it working. On other platforms, it's click+download+install+watch movie. If it's this way on that (godforsaken) Boxee-Box, why is it not this way for Linux?

      Yes, there's a PPA to do all the heavy lifting for you but the first kernel/library update that comes along is going to leave your Netflix with a bleeding head wound until someone can get around to hacking things together again. Don't get me wrong, it's great that we have people willing to put the time and effort into this stuff but having a hacked-together-binder-twine-duct-tape solution is a piss-poor reason to not strive for native platform integration. I'd really like to hear the reasons why Netflix (and Amazon prime and Hulu for that matter) seem to be too braindead to figure out a viable Linux platform solution. No talent? Can't get the DRM right? Flash too screwed up? Can't figure out permissions? Prefer backslashes?

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    2. Re:Netflix works on linux by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...yes, quite.

      A $60 appliance will get you Hulu+, Amazon, & Netflix. So you don't really have to fixate over whether or not desktop Linux supports Netflix.

      It's not 2005 anymore.

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  3. Straczynski and the Wachowskis? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

    Huh, that's going to be one seriously polished series.

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    1. Re:Straczynski and the Wachowskis? by Unknown+Lamer · · Score: 2

      Hopefully having been burned by the collapse of PTEN and then getting bent over by TNT, JMS negotiated a contract that will avoid immediate cancellation... because I want some good scifi that wasn't made 15+ years ago, and there's only one man left who can do it...

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  4. Uh oh... by Daetrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So just going from past history...

    JMS = doesn't really start to hit his stride until the second season.

    Wachowskis = each part of an episodic thing they work on is worse than the one that came before

    So either the strengths of one will compensate for the weaknesses of the other, or it's going to start out as on okay show with some promise but a lot of problems to overcome and then go downhill from there.

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    1. Re:Uh oh... by KatchooNJ · · Score: 2

      In all fairness... most shows take a couple seasons to hit their stride. I still remember watching the first episode of Star Trek: TNG and thinking that it stunk and I completely gave up on the show at that point. I then rejoined the party in season 2 and ended up loving the series, for the most part.

      Also, how many episodic things have the Wachowskis worked on? I can only think of the Matrix films. Maybe there are things out there I haven't seen yet.

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    2. Re:Uh oh... by loonwings · · Score: 2

      "Wachowski brothers" is inaccurate. Lana Wachowski identifies as female.

    3. Re:Uh oh... by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      Let us not forget the original Trek.

      MASH was on for 11 years and it nearly didn't make it to it's 2nd season. It was pretty much saved by having one single very well placed fan (some executive's wife).

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    4. Re:Uh oh... by CTachyon · · Score: 3, Informative

      So? they are genetically male. self identification is bullshit. You don't go changing definition because it suits you. It's left over pop psychology form the 70s. It's OK if you want to surgically change you gender, I don't care about that. but don't go around changing terms and definitions.

      What does "genetically male" mean? 46,XY? Congratulations, you just excluded men with 47,XXY (Klinefelter syndrome) and 47,XYY (XYY syndrome) as "not male". Presence of a Y chromosome? Congratulations, women with 46,XY who lack the SRY gene (Swyer syndrome) are now "male". Presence of the SRY gene? Congratulations, 46,XY women with SRY but non-functional testosterone receptors (CAIS, complete androgen insensitivity syndrome) are now "male". And those are merely some of the conditions that are diagnosed by hormones and genitalia, without even looking at the giant ball of complexity that is the brain.

      Self-identification of gender isn't bullshit 70's pop psychology. It's a practical consideration: science doesn't currently know what triggers male versus female identity in the brain. We know there's a surge of prenatal testosterone in the male fetus, followed by another testosterone surge a few weeks after birth, and that these two surges seem to trigger changes in the brain, but beyond that... hell if we know. We don't even know to what degree male identity is controlled by those testosterone surges versus direct action of SRY, or how many specific biological components there are in the brain that need to be affected. We don't know which circuits in the brain control self-identity ("I am a man/woman") versus proprioception ("my mental body map expects to receive sense data from male/female genitals") versus presentation ("other people see my behavior as feminine/masculine") versus orientation ("I am attracted to women/men"), if there are other categories than the ones I listed, where the lines are between these categories, or how blurry those lines are. Given how stable they are, we can infer that they're hardwired, which means that they must be phenotypes set during development; yet, the easiest way for a doctor to find out how genotype became phenotype in any particular patient is for the doctor to ask that patient to say their own gender identity.

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  5. Re:Real topic: by IndustrialG33k · · Score: 2

    They have been trying to start producing their own content for a couple years now. It was mentioned in the article, but i am excited they are bringing back Arrested Development as part of that effort.

  6. Want some cheese with your whine? by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who still watches netflix on their computers, anyways? At least half the blu-ray players on the market today can play netflix out of the box. Every major game console can as well. Quite a few TVs have it built-in now, too. Why on earth would you want to watch it on your computer?

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    1. Re:Want some cheese with your whine? by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Man solves problem by telling other people where to spend their money.
      Let me guess, consultant?

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  7. Can't Wait by FuzzNugget · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Honestly, it sounds ... well, it has potential anyway. I seriously enjoyed three of the four movies mentioned (let's just play pretend and say that fourth one never happened, mmmkay?)

    Fringe is over after a good run, V was canceled just as it was getting really good and there's not much else out there I can find with as much character depth.

    Bring it on!

  8. Re:linux ppl love to sell out by The+Mighty+Buzzard · · Score: 4, Informative

    Even worse, look at the editor bitching about Netflix not working on Linux when it's a solved problem.

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  9. Re:Real topic: by 1u3hr · · Score: 2
    They financed "House of Cards", an adaptation of a UK political series, moved to Washington, starring Kevin Spacey recently. Pretty good. Also seem to have partnered with a Norwegian company to produce "Lilyhammer", about NY mafiosi, Steven Van Zandt, hiding out in Norway, which wasn't bad.

    AMC was just doing what its name suggests, running old movies, until they started with Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead. So this model can produce good stuff.

  10. Re:so 95% of the world by interval1066 · · Score: 3, Funny

    First our hands are in every pocket, now we're isolationists. Fuck you.

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  11. Re:JMS... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 3

    Do you also complain when people say RMS, or ESR?

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  12. Re:JMS... by PortHaven · · Score: 4, Informative

    JMS was JMS before Java Messaging Service. And probably has more internet acclaim than java messaging does as well.

    Dang, JMS was on GEnie yes, before the world wide web was even popular. Hell, JMS predates Java itself

    Sorry your failed at your nerdiness...

  13. Re:not a stupid long robo first post for the win by jewens · · Score: 2

    The Spam problem has been somewhat annoying, and when I saw the opportunity to keep the bot from locking in the first spot I jumped on it. And then followed up with an on-topic reply to self to give the community a place to comment guaranteed to be above the bot. It appears to be working.

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  14. Re:Real topic: by gothzilla · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait....did you just say you're interested to see if they can do better than Jersey Shore and Honey Boo Boo? Seriously?

  15. Re:Real topic: by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    House of cards is moderately good -- better than most TV fare -- but underplays the level of corruption in Washington. We haven't seen any depiction of entrenched values and religious fuckery, either, and those are part and parcel of Washington's current operations.

    In the SF vein, news that would make me (and a lot of other people, I'm guessing) smile is someone pulling Firefly back together. IMHO, that show was the most consistently well done SF show ever. It had everything; it was quirky enough to be interesting just from a plot-assembly POV, it was often very funny, almost everyone had a great role (River's the exception, but it's pretty clear they were developing her slowly) and, oh, I don't know, a host of other things. A touch of genius, certainly. Perhaps several.

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  16. Re:Real topic: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    House of Cards was the first series

    I thought Lillyhammer was the first series?

  17. Re:Real topic: by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the great thing about House of Cards is that it's the first TV Series I've seen that didn't have to go through all the censors or ratings boards whatsoever. I think this allows them to make it more true to life. There's swearing, drugs, violence, and even some brief nudity. Also, because it wasn't made for TV, each episode is exactly as long as it needs to be. It rarely seemed like they added content simply because they needed to make the episode longer.

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  18. Re:Real topic: by jewens · · Score: 2

    Well, I meant "do better than something I'd be prone to watch from the traditional producers of the televised media." I have no intention of comparing anything to either of those shows due to the fact my sense of integrity would require me to actually seek out and experience them first hand. -shudder-

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  19. AppleTV and Roku boxes are cheap by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Even if you can't get Netflix working under Linux, you can always buy an AppleTV or Roku box for under $100 and run Netflix on that. The experience is superior anyway, no plugins or updates, Netflix runs really well and you can easily attach it to any TV.

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  20. Re:linux ppl love to sell out by JackieBrown · · Score: 4, Informative

    If by "solved" you mean that a software engineer grad student and his pocket protector stand an even chance of knocking it out in a spare weekend then yes my good sir, that problem is solved.

    Assuming most people can copy/paste, it is extremely easy.
    Open a terminal from the menu and paste "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ehoover/compholio" Enter your password when prompted. Then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install netflix-desktop"

    It is now installed in your programs menu.

    I really don't see how this is more difficult then installing in windows.

  21. Re:"Souls hunted"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    JMS is an atheist from what I can tell in the various things he's posted on the internet (he's done a lot of online discussions). I think he included relgious and metaphysical stuff in B5 to show how people latch onto religious ideas and values and use them to guide their actions because that is a real phenomenon regardless of whether you believe in the reality espoused by a given religion. Religious ideas have a hand in driving all sorts of conflicts in the real world (and conflicts are important elements of stories).

  22. Re:Poor GNU/Linux Already Watching Nefllx by cyber-vandal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    iOS I can understand but in what way is Mac OS X a walled garden?

  23. Linux? There's a fast, easy solution for that by pkbarbiedoll · · Score: 2

    I run several flavors of Linux at home and work and am disappointed that Netflix doesn't work natively under Linux. Rather than fudging around with a virtual machine or trying to get things working under Wine, I walked into my local electronics store and paid $70 for a nice blu-ray, internet enabled player. A Smart TV box. I now watch Netflix, Amazon Prime, Youtube and more without taking a hit on my laptop performance.

  24. Re:Real topic: by T.E.D. · · Score: 2

    JMS produced Babylon-5 for 5 years on a shoe-string budget with his own production company for an impoverished basic cable channel. I don't see why he'd have a lot of trouble pulling off the same feat for Netflix.

  25. Re:"Souls hunted"? by T.E.D. · · Score: 2

    Yup. JMS has stated he doesn't believe in God, and the rest of parent post is dead on as well. However, he does acknolwedge that religon exists, and even did some speculation into what that would look like with alien species. That's the kind of thing Sci-Fi is supposed to do. What he didn't do is ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist, like was done in Star Trek.

    GP was essentially complaining that B5 wasn't Trek. It his perrogative to prefer that narrative I suppose, but it doesn't make other narratives bad. At any rate, this is an argument most of us tired of a decade and a half ago. If you only want to watch Trek universe shows, please just go do that already and leave the rest of us alone.

  26. Space science fiction is encumbered by Leo+Sasquatch · · Score: 2

    Not to mention expensive to do properly.

    You have to postulate working anti-gravity without acknowledging the ramifications of that technology. Or spend more on wirework and/or CGI than can be coped with by a standard show's budget.

    And you have to find plots that haven't been done before. Without resorting to reversing the polarity of the neutron flow or getting this cheese to Sickbay. There's what, about 800 episodes of Trek in all its incarnations, plus Galactica old and new, Babylon 5, and stuff that only made very short runs, S:AAB, Space Rangers etc.

    All the science fiction from the last decade I can think of is earth-based, and I don't think it's because it's easier or cheaper to make, although it probably is. I think much of it is because any time someone comes up with an idea for a space-based series, it just sounds like Star Trek, The Nth Generation, or Babylon 6.

  27. Re:"Souls hunted"? by T.E.D. · · Score: 2

    sigh If you're going to start up a 10 year old argument, at least look into what has been said before.

    The Mimbari believed in that soul stuff. That doesn't make it true, just true for them. In fact, if you watched the episode Soul Hunter, you would have seen another species that believed very differently than the Mimbari about souls (with the predictable unblinking hatred from the Mimbari, much like you see from many other religons when their practices are incompatible, for example Mormon post-mortem "babptisims" of people who were other faiths in life).

    JMS was a atheist, but one who at the time was interested what he could say about religon and intolerance if he made the (not unreasonable) postulation that spacefaring species might retain that part of their cultural heritage. His Narn had a totally different religon, and his human characters all had their own different beliefs, some old (Ivonova was Jewish), some new (Their male doctor was an adherent of some kind of multispecies Universalist church created after space travel), and various characters had their own levels of belief or disbelief in religon. Just like people today. What a concept!

    Again, if you prefer Trek's treatment of religon, that's fine. Go watch that. But it doesn't make another author's treatment of it wrong.

  28. Re:"Souls hunted"? by happy_place · · Score: 2

    Nonsense. Religion isn't going away, nor should it. Roddenberry's biases is one aspect of his work that dates it. In general, one of Scifi's greatest flaws is despite its portrayal of fascinating scenarios and technological wonders it is difficult to apply to actual people because its main characters are often not people. Instead they are agnostic idealogues that come across as shallow. Its wooden/unrealistic portrayal of human depth due to many authors who insist in creating a caricature of religion for the sake of either making it either a cliche'd villain or the elimination of meaning altogether makes many of the great ideas presented therein flawed...

    Good scifi takes into account that intelligent people can and do acknowlege a higher power without turning all evil or into one-dimensional automatons.

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