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How Could Swarms of Robots Help Humanity?

ceview writes "Researchers at Sheffield Centre for Robotics have demonstrated that a swarm of 40 robots can carry out simple fetching and carrying tasks. This is done by grouping around an object and working together to push it across a surface. They believe that this could provide opportunities for us mere humans to harness such power to do all sorts of things like safety — what like catching falling workers perhaps? Youtube action here."

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  1. Rep. Young by alphatel · · Score: 3, Funny

    My father had a ranch. We used to hire 50 to 60 skinjobs to fetch tomatoes. You know it takes two people to fetch the same tomatoes now.

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    1. Re:Rep. Young by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

      Two people doing the same amount of work as 50 or 60 Cylons?
      Stop your shit-talking you Colonial elitist.

  2. swarms of robots by pezpunk · · Score: 1

    swarms of robots.

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    1. Re:swarms of robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ultimate robot swarm!"

      (Yep, that's mine...)

    2. Re:swarms of robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think of the First Posts you could get with a swarm of robots.

  3. The same way as swarms of locusts, of course. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/plague-of-locusts-in-madagascar-threatens-crops-370913.html&sa=U&ei=9tdVUZjAH-ugyAGJ04GoCw&ved=0CCIQqQIoADAA&usg=AFQjCNFvgHZnLCpzja0CPYjyQ8xut0jwOA

  4. Swarms of mechanical devices... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This will soon be made into a porn. She will be devoured by a mass of buzzing dildonics.

  5. Simple Tasks? by flyneye · · Score: 1

    SImple fetching and carrying tasks?
    Let's replace the Federal Government with uncorruptable simple robots. Constituents concerns can be tablulated by computer to steer voting in the Congress and Senate. Office flunkies and staffers go without saying. Entire Agencies could go robotic. The White House has had Repubmocrat bots for around a century now, this could be replaced with a party neutral machine with much nicer latex skin than the past models have had.

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    1. Re:Simple Tasks? by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Constituents concerns can be tablulated by computer to steer voting in the Congress and Senate.

      I like this: tyranny of the geeks who can hack the computers.

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    2. Re:Simple Tasks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although a lot of bureaucracy is done by humans simply because it's always been done that way and no one has gotten around to automating it (ex. 99% of interacting with companies over the phone when a web site would work much better; probably the same for stuff like the DMV), a lot of it actually requires humans to make real decisions. The House and Senate aren't supposed to be making decisions based on the majority will, and I suspect a lot of work done by civil servants also requires some intelligent input that can't be handled by a computer.

    3. Re:Simple Tasks? by flyneye · · Score: 1

      shhhhhhhh...

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  6. Support team for high maintenance GF/Wife ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what I'm talking about! But are robots up for the task?!?

    1. Re:Support team for high maintenance GF/Wife ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      robots make really good listeners...

  7. Bad headline... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It should read, "Tyler Durden Soap Principle Found to Apply to Robots".

    "With enough robots, you can do just about anything."

  8. Tora Bora by Tailhook · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The next time we need to hunt down someone in a cave complex we can use a drone swarm to autonomously explore all the holes. We'll only need the giant thermobaric bombs once the right caves are identified.

    Yay drone swarms.

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    1. Re:Tora Bora by CanHasDIY · · Score: 0

      The next time we need to hunt down someone in a cave complex we can use a drone swarm to autonomously explore all the holes. We'll only need the giant thermobaric bombs once the right caves are identified.

      Yay drone swarms.

      Who is "we?" I have never in my life needed to hunt anyone down, let alone in a cave complex.

      FWIW - careful what you wish for.

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    2. Re:Tora Bora by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      FWIW - careful what you wish for.

      What do I have to worry about? I don't live in a cave complex.

    3. Re:Tora Bora by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First, they came for the ones in the cave complex...

    4. Re:Tora Bora by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have trained a lot of short little guys with helium-level voices, some with one eye, and some with two. They LOVE to work with bombs.

      You may have seen them around...

      We call them... Minions

    5. Re:Tora Bora by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you do. It's made of wood, brick or concrete but it's substantially an artificial cave complex.

  9. #1 no more job based healthcare #2 full time 30hou by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1 no more job based healthcare

    #2 full time needs to be 30-35 hours a week.

  10. Likely app? Explosive mines. by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> humans to harness such power to do all sorts of things like safety — what like catching falling workers perhaps

    Doubt it. However, I could see a bunch of these being loosed by a in a war zone: individually find the big metal ship, clump together beneath the waterline, go boom. Or, to clear the way for a raid, something like for the next 6 hours, find all the moving human-like shapes, get close, go boom (or clump at doors, go boom).

  11. Destroying my Enemies, of course! by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

    What other use would there be for a swarm of evil, er, I mean, mini robots at my command?

    Hmm, I suddenly feel a bout of particularly malevolent laughter coming on...

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  12. To maintain a healthy society by jma42 · · Score: 0

    This would be excellent for rounding up dissidents, like Occupiers and Tea Partiers

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  13. Dumbots by Animats · · Score: 1

    They don't seem to be able to accomplish much or cooperate very well. Better work with swarm robots has been done.

    One of the better robotics ideas of the 1980s was a pair of small (about 1 cubic foot) robots with small forklifts. They could cooperate to move large objects, like a couch. One was in charge, and one was the helper. Once both robots were in position, force feedback and very limited communication was enough to coordinate them.

    That's a useful concept to develop further today. In the 1980s, navigation and vision weren't good enough to make this work reliably. Now they are.

    1. Re:Dumbots by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      One of the better robotics ideas of the 1980s was a pair of small (about 1 cubic foot) robots with small forklifts.

      I think I saw that movie .. you're describing Wall-E aren't you?

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  14. Obligatory Futurama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bender: "You guys like swarms of things, right?"

  15. Whut? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    They believe that this could provide opportunities for us mere humans to harness such power to do all sorts of things like safety

    En anglais, s'il vous plait.

    what like catching falling workers perhaps?

    Oy vey.

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  16. Picking Weeds by MpVpRb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If a robot could be designed that could distinguish weed from crop, it would eliminate the need for most herbicides and herbicide resistant GMO seeds

    1. Re:Picking Weeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If a robot could be designed that could distinguish weed from crop

      Sometimes weed is crop

    2. Re:Picking Weeds by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      If a robot could be designed that could distinguish weed from crop, it would eliminate the need for most herbicides and herbicide resistant GMO seeds

      If a robot could be designed that could distinguish weed from crop, it would eliminate the need for most herbicides and herbicide resistant GMO seeds--*as long as the robots were not significantly more expensive than the herbicides*. That's the tricky part.

    3. Re:Picking Weeds by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

      If a robot could be designed that could distinguish weed from crop, it would eliminate the need for most herbicides and herbicide resistant GMO seeds

      If a robot could be designed that could distinguish weed from crop, it would eliminate the need for most herbicides and herbicide resistant GMO seeds--*as long as the robots were not significantly more expensive than the herbicides*. That's the tricky part.

      Or cause more pollution issues, or some other unforeseen consequence. A bad firmware update that kills 80% of a nations crops would be devastating.

  17. Transportation by Longjmp · · Score: 1

    This is done by grouping around an object and working together to push it across a surface.

    Ah, I can see the future now: Instead of developing expensive autonomous driving vehicles, you order a bunch of cheap robots that push you to work every day!

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  18. Re:Please understand that this is NOT ME... apk by overmoderated · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Could you elaborate on #15?

  19. Re:It's Jeremiah Cornelius, not I folks... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are the one who is pitiful. If you didn't spam /. with your bullshit you wouldn't have spammer 'impostors' doing the same. Just fuck off and die already, ok? Please, really. Step in front of a bus. Drink some bleach. Whatever it takes, just FUCK OFF and DIE.

  20. once apon a time by Osgeld · · Score: 1, Interesting

    most inventions were made out of necessity to solve a problem, now we make shit and sit there looking at it going "wut now?"

    1. Re:once apon a time by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "most inventions were made out of necessity to solve a problem"
      false.
      most invention where from, someone meddling around.
      The example that stands out is electromagnetism.

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    2. Re:once apon a time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also the laser.

  21. Here's how: by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    Loki: I come with glad tidings of a world made free.

    Nick Fury: Free from what?

    Loki: Freedom.

  22. How? by eap · · Score: 1

    How Could Swarms of Robots Help Humanity?

    Of course they would help. Unless they went crazy and started hurting people. Which they almost certainly would.

  23. Missing the point? by hammeraxe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think most people here are missing the point. I doubt the aim of his research is to develop things that are immediately useful. It is more about understanding the behaviour of complex multi agent systems. A lot of systems around us follow this same model. For example, the economy is just the sum of the actions of many "simple" agents. This research aims to look into exactly that. Really it is amazing that few simple agents without any higher form of control can accomplish anything when their behaviour is based on maybe 2-3 rules.

    1. Re:Missing the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Womb Broom... 7 Billions and declining, finally.

    2. Re:Missing the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I agree, it seems such goal would be achieved much more efficiently with software simulation. Of course, no one would watch/care about it if it's done this way.

    3. Re:Missing the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up. I estimate the same result would have been obtained with maybe 2% of the effort/cost using software simulation. Who paid for this dumb research? Don't they have better things to spend time/money on in university anymore?

  24. Not that simple by jklovanc · · Score: 2

    The goals of this research are very simple and very controlled. Take for example the pushing of the box. It was one box in a pristine room with one target. The pushing algorithm is extremely simple. Move randomly until you can not see red and then move toward the last location that you saw red.
    What happens if there is a small obstacle on the floor and the object can not be pushed straight toward the floor?
    What happens if the targets not visible from the object?
    What happens if there are several possible targets and several possible objects to push?
    How do the robots know when to stop pushing?
    Sure simple robots with simple programming given simple tasks in a simple environment will work. The real world is rarely that simple. As one throws more real world parameters into the situation the complexity rises exponentially.

    They believe that this could provide opportunities for us mere humans to harness such power to do all sorts of things like safety — what like catching falling workers perhaps?

    Is that worker in an uncontrolled fall or are they jumping? When you add decision making into a process it becomes much more complex than pushing or sorting.

    1. Re:Not that simple by geekoid · · Score: 1

      gosh, no one in robotics or computing ever thought about those things~

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    2. Re:Not that simple by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      You missed my point. Problems of this complexity are assignments for second year computer science students and nothing new.

  25. Re:It's Jeremiah Cornelius, not I folks... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello, Jeremy.

  26. How Could Swarms of Robots Help Humanity? by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 1

    By tracking down and eliminating all the stupid ones?
    Or all members of Congress.
    But I repeat myself.

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    1. Re:How Could Swarms of Robots Help Humanity? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      By tracking down and eliminating all the stupid ones?
      Or all members of Congress.

      They might decide "all of us" fits the definition better.

      In fact, I think I've see a little-known movie on this very topic. "Eliminator", or something.

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  27. to do all sorts of things like safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to do all sorts of things like safety

    Hold on guys, gotta go do some safety. Let's all do safety today. Oh the robots are doing the safety today? Sounds good! I'll go do punctual instead.

  28. Re:It's Jeremiah Cornelius, not I folks... apk by wierd_w · · Score: 1

    Andrew, do you remember that time at bandcamp when you had that piccolo up your ass?

    Remember how I said I deleted the pictures?

    I lied.

  29. Re:Likely app? Explosive mines. by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

    What a horror that would be, the new sound of terror is a high pitched mosquito-like whine. I'm fairly sure there are rules against targeting civilians in war though, and this would go right over the line.

  30. Medical treatments by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    Combine swarm robots and nanotechnology and you could have a way to non-surgically (or at least outpatient procedure) remove tumors. Maybe inject them through an IV?

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  31. Simple. by azav · · Score: 2

    Pick up trash.
    Mow lawns.
    Sort trash to determine recyclables.
    Fix potholes.
    Paint over graffiti.
    Repair underground infrastructure - gas and water pipes.
    Detect leaks in underground infrastructure.
    Remediate contaminated soil.

    So many options.

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  32. Clean up litter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always thought swarms of robots would be great at cleaning litter from the streets (perhaps identifying litterers) and chilling near or on power lines to charge up.

  33. Swarms of small fast flying robots.. by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

    Could guard airspace, self refuel, bring down drones, and make an impenetrable shield!

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  34. Hasn't This Been Done a Million Times Over Yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just saying ... same old crap from the robot front for the past 30 years ... nothing to see here, move on ...

  35. Can we stop using the word swarms? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All these experiments are about exhibits coordinated supervisory control.

    Swarms have truly independent "units", and some error though patterned behavior emerges. All these experiments don't demonstrate that, just coordinated behavior with strict inter-dependence rules and a very narrow goal... which is not a swarm.

    There's a real difference between group motion, flocking and swarms, but we wrap it all into one definition: AI.

  36. Now we need to build bigger humanoidlike robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To control those small swarms, preferably with the "theme" matching the function, and name those robots "something" man, and they obviously resides on a empty themed room behind two steel doors that goes "cla cla cla clack".

  37. How ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By killing all humanity.

    Simple answer, delivered quick.

    A mercy killing.

  38. Clearly our only defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agains Giant Robotic Jellyfish.

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/03/29/1355227/giant-robotic-jellyfish-unveiled-by-researchers

    Quick - call Michael Bay!

  39. Then what happens when the robots realize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that they don't need US around?