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Cyber-Terrorists Attacking U.S. Banks Are Well-Funded

Posted by Soulskill on from the bankrolled-by-interested-parties dept.

An anonymous reader writes "A DDoS attack targeting American Express on March 28th was just one in a series of incidents by self-proclaimed 'cyber-fighters' over the past few weeks. Beyond that, it's part of a much longer campaign to disrupt financial infrastructure using attacks over the internet. Ars details the group behind the most recent attacks, called 'the cyber-fighters of Izz ad-Din al-Qassam.' From the article: 'Named after a Muslim cleric who led The Black Hand, an anti-British and anti-Zionist jihadist organization in the 1920s and 1930s, and sharing a name with the military wing of Hamas (which the group's statements claim it is tied to), Izz ad-Din al-Qassam has taken credit for a variety of attacks on U.S. financial institutions over the past year, all allegedly in protest against the posting of trailers for the film The Innocence of Muslims on YouTube. Until the film is removed, the group said it would target "properties of American-Zionist CapitalistsThis attack will continue till the Erasing of that nasty movie." [sic]' There are concerns that the group is providing cover for organizations looking to defraud those banks. 'But even if the group behind the attacks isn't profiting from them, [Arbor Networks' Dan Holden] said it's clear that there are very real investments being made in their activities—maybe not in servers or hard assets, but in the form of countless hours of maintenance of the botnet by finding new servers to exploit, and further development of attacks. "Regardless of who's behind this," Holden said, "it has to be funded at some level. Even if it's hacktivists, it's got to be funded hacktivism." That, he says, is because of both the amount of time dedicated to the attack, and to its ongoing refinement. "It's not that these are the most sophisticated things in the world," he explained, "but it has been getting more sophisticated, and it's growing."'"

83 comments

  1. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, Seriously: Fuck that noise.

    It's either cyber-criminal or hacktivist. There is no such thing as a cyber-terrorist. Normal terrorists can even use the interwebs to cause loss of life, but if it causes loss of life it is just terrorism by any other means.

    As someone who believes terrorism should be treated as a serious subject matter, I find these petty attempts to cash in on the DHS cash-cow absolutely disgusting. Anti-terrorism is better funded than normal law enforcement so now every cop walking the beat wants to redefine their job title to include hunting parking-terrorists, and speeding-terrorists.

    It's retarded, and it poses a threat to the 8th amendment.

  2. Suckers! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Clearly these 'terrorists', however adequate their funding, are a bunch of amateurs.

    As the recent history of the US(and more recently EU) banking sectors has demonstrated, the best way to disrupt financial infrastructure is to operate it. Plus, politicians will fight like dogs to see who can bail you out more generously, and you'll walk away with a fat bonus and no legal consequences!

    1. Re:Suckers! by russotto · · Score: 1

      Actually, that would be a great way to fund a terrorist organization: rig the standards for loans so that even horribly bad loans get approved (if it's an automated system, this is where the "cyber" comes in). Then you set up shell companies to "borrow" money. Not only are you funding your organization, if you co-ordinate the defaults you bring down the financial system as well.

    2. Re:Suckers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just idiots funded by the CIA..

  3. "Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pull the other one. It's got BELLS on it.

    This is a pure propaganda allegation. Unsourced, with out validation. Hamas? Gimme a break.

    Wait for the shoe to drop, with additional restrictive and obtrusive laws on Internet users.

    Even the "underwear bomber" has now been positively outed as a US "intelligence" operation. Not that anyone is noticing that little story.

    --
    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
  4. I am being attacked and defamed... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    A corrupt slashdot luser has infiltrated the moderation system to downmod all my posts while impersonating me.

    Nearly 180++ times that I know of @ this point for all of March 2013 so far, & others here have told you to stop - take the hint, lunatic (leave slashdot)...

    Sorry folks - but whoever the nutjob is that's attempting to impersonate me, & upset the rest of you as well, has SERIOUS mental issues, no questions asked! I must've gotten the better of him + seriously "gotten his goat" in doing so in a technical debate & his "geek angst" @ losing to me has him doing the:

    ---

    A.) $10,000 challenges, ala (where the imposter actually TRACKED + LISTED the # of times he's done this no less, & where I get the 180 or so times I noted above) -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585795&cid=43285307

    &/or

    B.) Reposting OLD + possibly altered models - (this I haven't checked on as to altering the veracity of the info. being changed) of posts of mine from the past here

    ---

    (Albeit massively repeatedly thru all threads on /. this March 2013 nearly in its entirety thusfar).

    * Personally, I'm surprised the moderation staff here hasn't just "blocked out" his network range yet honestly!

    (They know it's NOT the same as my own as well, especially after THIS post of mine, which they CAN see the IP range I am coming out of to compare with the ac spamming troll doing the above...).

    APK

    P.S.=> Again/Stressing it: NO guys - it is NOT me doing it, as I wouldn't waste that much time on such trivial b.s. like a kid might...

    Plus, I only post where hosts file usage is on topic or appropriate for a solution & certainly NOT IN EVERY POST ON SLASHDOT (like the nutcase trying to "impersonate me" is doing for nearly all of March now, & 180++ times that I know of @ least)... apk

    P.S.=> here is CORRECT host file information just to piss off the insane lunatic troll:

    --

    21++ ADVANTAGES OF CUSTOM HOSTS FILES (how/what/when/where/why):

    Over AdBlock & DNS Servers ALONE 4 Security, Speed, Reliability, & Anonymity (to an extent vs. DNSBL's + DNS request logs).

    1.) HOSTS files are useable for all these purposes because they are present on all Operating Systems that have a BSD based IP stack (even ANDROID) and do adblocking for ANY webbrowser, email program, etc. (any webbound program). A truly "multi-platform" UNIVERSAL solution for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's you feel are unjust hosts get you past/around).

    2.) Adblock blocks ads? Well, not anymore & certainly not as well by default, apparently, lol - see below:

    Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option

    http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option )

    AND, in only browsers & their subprogram families (ala email like Thunderbird for FireFox/Mozilla products (use same gecko & xulrunner engines)), but not all, or, all independent email clients, like Outlook, Outlook Express, OR Window "LIVE" mail (for example(s)) - there's many more like EUDORA & others I've used over time that AdBlock just DOES NOT COVER... period.

    Disclaimer: Opera now also has an AdBlock addon (now that Opera has addons above widgets), but I am not certain the same people make it as they do for FF or Chrome etc..

    3.) Adblock doesn't protect email programs external to FF (non-mozilla/gecko engine based) family based wares, So AdBlock doesn't protect email programs like Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows "LIVE" mail & others like them (EUDORA etc./et al), Hosts files do. THIS IS GOOD VS. SPAM MAIL or MAILS THA

    1. Re:I am being attacked and defamed... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I prefer CleanMyPC myself.

  5. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by MrNaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Stop being level-headed. You're ruining the opportunity for rich people to declare war on something.

    --
    I hate printers.
  6. It's not I folks: It's Jeremiah Cornelius... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    THIS is why he's doing it & proof of it, here -> http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585927&cid=43295193 when others pointed out Jeremiah Cornelius forgot to submit one of the "first post spams" masquerading as myself as AC, & mistakenly submitted one of the impersonations of myself as his registered 'luser' name here on /. forums.

    Pretty pitiful actually, but like every up to no good idiot does? He screwed up & submitted it under his registered 'luser' name here.

    * Jeremiah Cornelius: DO YOURSELF, and the rest of us, A GIANT FAVOR MAN: Seek professional psychiatric help!

    (Since Jeremiah Cornelius obviously can't get over the fact he made a spelling error on what it is HE ALLEGEDLY DID FOR A LIVING? That's not MY fault... it's HIS!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I seriously must have dusted JC (in his mind @ least) for his BAD spelling error & it "got his goat"...

    I.E.-> Catching what he claimed to do as a job, for YEARS he left "PENETRATION" (correct) spelled as "PENTRATION" (incorrect) on his resume on LinkedIn & I pointed it out as he & his friends trolled me as usual (webmistressrachel, gmhowell, & crew (probably ALL JC no doubt using alterate emails or TOR to do it as a possible - I've caught "them & theirs" doing it before, ala Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person))).

    So THAT is what has gotten his goat in a technical debate & his "geek angst" could only come up with *trying* to "impersonate me" in every news thread on /. for the month of March 2013 so far!

    (Just to attempt to 'discredit me' as a spammer here obviously)

    Doing so, by posting that "$10,000 challenge" &/or reposts of my old posts on hosts file value to end users into EVERY SINGLE NEWS ARTICLE POSTED on /. ...

    It's all I can think of that *might* cause such a mentally troubled 'reaction' like the Jeremiah Cornelius is doing & there's NO QUESTION he's the one doing this spamming of nearly every posted article masquerading as myself...!

    ... apk

  7. Re:It's not I folks: It's Jeremiah Cornelius... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You missed some posts:

    http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3598129&cid=43318101
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3596725&cid=43317341
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3596889&cid=43317435
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3598129&cid=43318101
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3596725&cid=43317341
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3596557&cid=43315531
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3596513&cid=43315283

    People need to know the truth

  8. So who do I root for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a fight between an Islamic fundamentalist group and the banks, who do I want to win?

    1. Re:So who do I root for? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      In a fight between an Islamic fundamentalist group and the banks, who do I want to win?

      Well, that's pretty easy. The Islamic fundementalists. After all, given the choice of illiterate goat herders with a two thousand year chip on their shoulders and the and the invertebrate slime who give Cthulhu the shakes, which way would you swing?

      --
      Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
    2. Re:So who do I root for? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      It doesn't really work that way anyway. The banks are profiting from the conflict. They win no matter who loses.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    3. Re:So who do I root for? by Psyborgue · · Score: 2

      Bankers. Bankers wouldn't stone me to death for who I fuck.

    4. Re:So who do I root for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you've never been falsely accused and convicted of rape, a vicitim of paternity fraud, or dragged through the divorce courts and had all of your assets and future potential earnings stripped away from you and made to be a slave. Yeah, probably none of those worries you because you "fuck" men, faggot.

    5. Re:So who do I root for? by romons · · Score: 1

      No, but they would CHARGE you to fuck them if they could.

      If you think back a bit, unless you live in NYC or are in the military, your life has been SERIOUSLY affected by bankers in recent history, and probably not so much by reputed terrorists.

      Doesn't ANYBODY remember 'Brazil'? What about those rogue duct repairmen? The concept of 'terrorism' is a tool for the state to control you. The country was much more compliant when we were cowering in our cupboards after 911, so much so that we were willing to let Cheney and Bush take us to war with a country that had not attacked us without a struggle. Even the NYTimes liked the idea of going to war after 911, it didn't much matter who with. Remember Judith Miller and the juiced up stories about WMD?

      Here is a thought: 'they are only terrorists if you are terrified by them'...

      --
      Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company -- Mark Twain
  9. The distasteful word. by neoshroom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Please never again use the word "cyber-terrorist" in any function. It is way too easy to turn that word into "anything someone does on the internet that you are scared of" and the internet is not always well understood by political classes and established interests. It is a word which too easily invites disastrous misinterpretation (e.g. Aaron Swartz-like situations).

    --
    Big apple, new Yorik, undig it, something's unrotting in Edenmark.
    1. Re:The distasteful word. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I believe it's fair to use cyber-terrorist to describe someone who commits a terrorist attack via the internet. So if they preform an attack with the intent and result of killing a large number of people via the failure or destruction of a critical infrastructure system, then I believe that qualifies as a cyber-terrorist.

      But DDoSing random things hardly qualifies.

    2. Re:The distasteful word. by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Given the stated motivation of the perpetrators would "cyber-jihadi" be more accurate?

      It shows clearly what is motivating the attackers (a desire to impose Sharia on the web - no criticism of Islam allowed, even if completely true) and it excludes those who merely are using the internet in a way the Government doesn't like (since they are not jihadis).

      Note: The movie "Innocence of Muslims" is mostly factually correct - according to *Islamic* scriptures. It may have shitty production values, but it does describe Mohammed's actions accurately according to Islamic Scripture. Here's a fact check of the Innocence of Muslims movie:
      http://www.pi-news.org/2012/09/fact-check-the-innocence-of-the-muslims/
      Now you know that the movie is not slanderous, but accurate, aren't you disgusted that Hillary Clinton and the Obama Administration used it as an excuse to cover the attack in Benghazi and hide their gunrunning to Islamic groups? (Anyone who votes for the incompetent and duplicitous Hilliary in 2016 is insane!).

      Unlike most Western laws, Sharia defines "slander" is anything a Muslim doesn't want you to hear - even if completely true (actually, especially if it is *true*). Islamists do not want the West to understand the scriptures of Islam and the life of Mohammed - they want to present a whitewashed version instead because the reality of Islamic doctrine would offend Western sensibilities. That's why there are so many Islamist apologists going around using 'taqiyya' and the even more insidious 'tawriya'. Here is a citation for the meaning of these words:
      http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html

      The actions of cyber jihadis is not often only to do vandalism but it is in-fact to provoke the reaction you predict from politicians, who will criminalize broad swathes of internet activity under 'terrorism' laws. This reaction serves the goal of Sharia by eliminating Free Speech criticism of Islam. It is the same way that Hilliary Clinton stupidly was manipulated into supporting UN Resolution 16/18 which also supports Sharia and attacks Free Speech. Please also see Stephen Coughlin's excellent analysis of the manipulation of the West at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkAZUvQAzkc

    3. Re:The distasteful word. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Now, how is that different from that other mid-east religion ? They have tricked America into a war to eliminate Iraq, which posed some minor threat to them. Now they work hard in tricking you into a war to eliminate Iran, as that country poses a nuisance to them. Not a threat, as they already have the technology they claim Iran is pursuing. Well-honed, ready to use.
      They could of course stop all the abuse of the conquered people and thereby foster peace. But you know what ? This is a people who have a very long tradition of exploiting other people by some sort of ingenious scamming, lying, scheming and sharing of intelligence on their victims. They can't simply make peace like people of Europe normally do, by accepting their own sins and trying to become friends with their neighbours again. Stopping the shit and so on.
      Be very careful whenever you deal with people whose roots are outside of Europe. They mostly have entirely different systems of moral foundations. Always expect them to try to exploit you, as they perceive a lack of double-dealing as stupidity which needs to be punished. You better stay clear of them and you better make sure your country does not open the gates to these people.
      But hell, America and Europe are already open to everybody who can display a sack of dollar bills. Our moral foundations have been shattered into little pieces because we already believe in the God Of Money.

      We embrace Sodom and Gomorrah and we treat our women like the worst shit, we don't give them the security and support to raise children. We use Sex wholly for pleasure, not for making kids. We think that using drugs and sodomy is an essential part of "freedom".

      What can you do ? Reflect about your own life. Think about how you submit yourself to the ideas and memes of the middle east. Ask yourself whether you want to live in a wholly corrupt world of money and double-crossing, as the Sirens Of Modern Business propagate.
      I am not saying we should use the crude methods of Nazism to get rid of the problem. There is a lot of honesty, hard work and civilization in some Asian cultures like the Chinese or Vietnamese. I do think these people genuinely have added good things to humanity. They are very much like a real European person asking themselves "should I do this and will it not damage the common good, the common welfare" ?
      Reflect and survey yourself, your peers, Europeans and others. Look how they do their double-dealing. Punish them by not aiding them, by not doing business with them. Do business with hard-working, honest Chinese and Vietnamese, but be very, very careful with the mid-easterners and Islam in general. And no, this is not a "phobia" - just look at the double-crossing of the Saudis (playing nice officially and then funding the worst kind of Islam internationally) and the Pakis (getting US money and weapons in the billions and then aiding the enemies of America at the same time).
      Look at the Apartheid system some of them run and how they spin it in America as if they had no choice but to do it. Then read their "holy books" - stuffed full of violence and morals which are wholly incompatible with the core beliefs of Europe. And no, don't tell me that core European morals are based on that holy book. It has been forced onto us by that corrupt, immoral and broken System Of Rome. Real Europeans are speaking the truth, even if that hurts their immediate "interests", we did not have slaves and we did not have the nasty sophistication of killing prisoners as a public spectacle called "game".
      When I write "Europe" here, I also refer to Americans who have their roots and their culture in Europe.

    4. Re:The distasteful word. by romons · · Score: 1

      Given the stated motivation of the perpetrators would "cyber-jihadi" be more accurate?

      It shows clearly what is motivating the attackers (a desire to impose Sharia on the web - no criticism of Islam allowed, even if completely true) and it excludes those who merely are using the internet in a way the Government doesn't like (since they are not jihadis).

      You are saying that the movie they are trying to supress is true? News to me...

      This is probably a misguided effort by some young hackers, perhaps paid for by a rich Saudi. It is not terrorism unless you are terrified by it.

      --
      Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company -- Mark Twain
    5. Re:The distasteful word. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please never again use any word which can be misunderstood or misused.

      Swartz was labeled a cyber-terrorist? If so, I never heard it used to describe him is all I can say. I seriously would call him that however I'm pretty sure the prosecutor was called a terrorist right here on /.

    6. Re:The distasteful word. by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 0

      You are saying that the movie they are trying to supress is true? News to me...

      Yes, the "Innocence of Muslims" movie has crap production values but it is more accurate to the Islamic texts than most Hollywood movies are to even recent historical events. The reason that Hollywood doesn't get its facts straight is the same reason news reports with a bias and your elites lied to you about the assault on the embassy in Benghazi and have don't their damnedest to keep you from hearing more about it or thinking about it (the media covered with lots of distractions at the time). The reason is because Hollywood, the US mainstream media and the current Administration all have a "Narrative" about Islam and what is going on in the World and they are trying very hard to suppress any facts, evidence or speakers that go against that Narrative.

      You see, the Leftist narrative is that Muslims commit jihad against the West are forced into extreme measures because they are poor, downtrodden, poorly educated etc. That fits in with the Leftists notions of "huddled masses" they they must fight to free. The reality is that the jihadis that attack the West are usually better educated, monied and privileged than their peers. What is driving them is Islam. The media's narrative is that these are "extremists". In on sense it is true, most Muslims are good people and do not do jihad (thank the FSM), but on the other hand this is a complete lie - the interpretation that the jihadis are taking is not extreme in any way, it is the *mainstream* interpretation of Islam that all four Sunni schools of jurisprudence, the Sunni school and people like Osama bin Laden all agree on. All faithful Muslims agree that jihad is a duty of every devout Muslim, it is just that most don't practice it (often they simply send money to the more vigorous guys).

      This sounds bizarre when you first hear it. But it turns out this is the truth about Islam (so please, don't shoot the messenger, me for telling the truth). What is interesting is not that Islamists are obfuscating their anti-liberty aims, but that the political Left and academia are aiding and abetting them. They use character assassination to try and silence anyone telling the truth (eg. see the recent book documenting this: http://frontpagemag.com/2013/jamie-glazov/bullies-how-the-lefts-culture-of-fear-and-intimidation-silences-america/). Isn't it interesting how news and spin is being used to generate a perception that counters the reality of the facts?

      I do have one positive thing to say about the Obama Administration. After the disaster in Benghazi (although why have none of the 30 survivors been able to speak freely?) I think the Administration has started to realise that the Muslim Brotherhood advisors in the White House have been giving bad advice and as a result the US has been harming liberty rather than helping it. I think the Administration finally realise that they can't be nice to jihadis (eg. like the ones they were arming in Libya, before they slipped the leash of the US) and expect a measure of control. The Administration has woken up and now opposes arming the Syrian Opposition in Syria. While the US still wants Assad out (he's a bad tyrant) they will not provide dangerous heavy weaponry any more (some of it has already ended up in the hands of the Al Nusra outfits; which are basically Al Qaeda).

      So you must ask yourself, irrespective of your political views, why aren't my elected representatives and mainstream media telling me this? Why are they *actively* suppressing the truth: eg.

      ps: don't believe the Muslim Brotherhood are influencing the White House? Here's my evidence:
      http://www.investigativeproject.org/3869/egyptian-magazine-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrates

      Now Senator M

    7. Re:The distasteful word. by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Some good points but some barely masked anti-Semitic libels in there too. I'm surprised the forged falsehood "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" didn't make it in your wee rant.

      You do know that the territories of Judea and Samaria (called the "West Bank" when illegally occupied by the Jordanians from 1948-1967) are disputed territory, yes? the last clear cut owner was the Ottoman Empire followed by the British Mandate granted by the League of Nations. Here's a discussion of the historical legalities for you to chew on:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub2x5UvjUs4
      The territory was supposed to be settled by negotiation but de-facto ownership has been established by Israel gaining territory after being attacked in several wars by multiple opposing armies.

      ps. the Arab Ummah has plenty of land. The fight is not about land. Yasser Arafat (an Egyptian terrorist born in Cairo, not a "Palestinian") btw and other PLO members stated such. Here's are little known citations from an Arabic scholar laying out the PLO's position and the fiction created to justify their intended genocide. At least the PLO tell the truth, the political far-Left provide a false historical narrative to match their view. Please see slides 6 to 13 (or even better, everything) of the following presentation quoting the PLO movers and shakers:
      http://www.al-rassooli.com/palestine/slide-06.html

      The land of Palestine is tiny and the Arabs have plenty of other countries to live in as Muslims. They want to destroy all of Israel in the great genocide commanded in the Qur'an. That has been their goal for 1400 years, and after some time off (thanks to the Crusades pushing back, a heavy defeat in Vienna in *9/11* 1683 [ever wonder why that date is special?] and later colonial powers), they are now getting back into the swing of things. They convinced the Soviet Communists, their allies and assorted Leftists to help them (here's a nice video explaining how this came about in the UN: ). You are getting sucked into supporting genocide because you lack the knowledge of the history of the region. I suggest you get up to speed on history before you come on Slashdot with libelous anti-Semitic falsehoods: they simply don't match the objective historical record (although they do match the historical revisionist propaganda that the Left have been inculcating into the youth of the US and West).

      So, if you think the Israelis have control over US policy I suggest you ask yourself why Netenyahu had to publicly humiliate himself trying to get the rest of the World to act on the Iranian nuclear programme. I mean, the Iranians state daily "Death to America, Death to Israel, Death to the West" and are working on a *capability* of nuclear weapons (if not the weapons themselves). Yet somehow the Israelis are perceived as having undue control. Yet when the Saudis have a problem with a country they do not have to publicly humiliate themselves in the same way - a quite word to a Texan oilman or his successor and threats go away (Saddam threatened Saudi in 1991 after Kuwait, capturing Khafji; while Israel is a hated enemy of Iran the Iranian arch-enemy is actually Saudi Arabia).

      So, yes, Israel does have influence over US politics. There are a great many countries and lobbies that do - all struggling to get the upper hand. However, recent events and revelations have shown that the current Leftist/collectivist/statist Obama Administration has been most influenced not by Israel, but by Israel's enemies. Israel seeks to influence US policy but does not fundamentally seek to alter the laws and culture of the US or Western World. The Muslim Brotherhood and Organization for Islamic Cooperation, are busy at work changing how the youth of the West are educated, ensuring that any criticism of Islam and Mohammed are met with "Days of rage" which gets blamed on the people practicing Free Speech rather than the violent rioters

  10. Right, I'm supposed to cry for a bank? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Even before the 1890's, banks have been hold the world hostage.
    If you have money in the bank, you ARE supporting the terrorists.
    If you are using a credit card, you ARE supporting the terrorists.
    But for those of you who say they can't live without banking services,
    just ignore this message.
    For those of you who dare not believe that your ever so loving bank
    could or would ever harm you,
    ignore this message.
    Just keep working till you die...

  11. The PHB's get what they deserve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't believe all these BIG companies are trying to save a few nickels in IT while spending millions on bonuses for the execs and company perks. Like you guys get kicked in the junk because you think you don't need protection.... What ev

    Steve Jobs would have fired PHB's like that.... We need more CEO's that are nerds.... To keep the suits in line...

  12. Please understand THIS IS NOT ME... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    A corrupt slashdot luser has infiltrated the moderation system to downmod all my posts while impersonating me.

    Nearly 180++ times that I know of @ this point for all of March 2013 so far, & others here have told you to stop - take the hint, lunatic (leave slashdot)...

    Sorry folks - but whoever the nutjob is that's attempting to impersonate me, & upset the rest of you as well, has SERIOUS mental issues, no questions asked! I must've gotten the better of him + seriously "gotten his goat" in doing so in a technical debate & his "geek angst" @ losing to me has him doing the:

    ---

    A.) $10,000 challenges, ala (where the imposter actually TRACKED + LISTED the # of times he's done this no less, & where I get the 180 or so times I noted above) -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585795&cid=43285307

    &/or

    B.) Reposting OLD + possibly altered models - (this I haven't checked on as to altering the veracity of the info. being changed) of posts of mine from the past here

    ---

    (Albeit massively repeatedly thru all threads on /. this March 2013 nearly in its entirety thusfar).

    * Personally, I'm surprised the moderation staff here hasn't just "blocked out" his network range yet honestly!

    (They know it's NOT the same as my own as well, especially after THIS post of mine, which they CAN see the IP range I am coming out of to compare with the ac spamming troll doing the above...).

    APK

    P.S.=> Again/Stressing it: NO guys - it is NOT me doing it, as I wouldn't waste that much time on such trivial b.s. like a kid might...

    Plus, I only post where hosts file usage is on topic or appropriate for a solution & certainly NOT IN EVERY POST ON SLASHDOT (like the nutcase trying to "impersonate me" is doing for nearly all of March now, & 180++ times that I know of @ least)... apk

    P.S.=> here is CORRECT host file information just to piss off the insane lunatic troll:

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    21++ ADVANTAGES OF CUSTOM HOSTS FILES (how/what/when/where/why):

    Over AdBlock & DNS Servers ALONE 4 Security, Speed, Reliability, & Anonymity (to an extent vs. DNSBL's + DNS request logs).

    1.) HOSTS files are useable for all these purposes because they are present on all Operating Systems that have a BSD based IP stack (even ANDROID) and do adblocking for ANY webbrowser, email program, etc. (any webbound program). A truly "multi-platform" UNIVERSAL solution for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's you feel are unjust hosts get you past/around).

    2.) Adblock blocks ads? Well, not anymore & certainly not as well by default, apparently, lol - see below:

    Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option

    http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option )

    AND, in only browsers & their subprogram families (ala email like Thunderbird for FireFox/Mozilla products (use same gecko & xulrunner engines)), but not all, or, all independent email clients, like Outlook, Outlook Express, OR Window "LIVE" mail (for example(s)) - there's many more like EUDORA & others I've used over time that AdBlock just DOES NOT COVER... period.

    Disclaimer: Opera now also has an AdBlock addon (now that Opera has addons above widgets), but I am not certain the same people make it as they do for FF or Chrome etc..

    3.) Adblock doesn't protect email programs external to FF (non-mozilla/gecko engine based) family based wares, So AdBlock doesn't protect email programs like Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows "LIVE" mail & others like them (EUDORA etc./et al), Hosts files do. THIS IS GOOD VS. SPAM MAIL or MAILS THA

  13. did attacks end already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is the attack still going on? Or are the attacks not affecting Bluebird.com? Just wondering cuz i can log into my BlueBird account just fine.
    whenever I see the word Zion i think of Zion National Park, not capitals. The park, located in Utah, is really pretty. no offense to people of Jerusalem.

  14. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by binarylarry · · Score: 1

    It's pretty fucked up to equate "oh noes my credit card got declined at starbucks" to "I just died due to my planet getting driven into a skyscraper"

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    Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
  15. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Pull the other one. It's got BELLS on it."

    Black hand, this is racist shit. I don't want a black hand in my white cheese.

  16. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by binarylarry · · Score: 1

    *plane

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  17. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

    Points, sir. I award them to your non-sequitir!

    --
    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
  18. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sooo relevant question:

    Do the people working for DHS or for the cyber-criminals make more money?

    Why?

    Why not?

  19. Who's pulling the strings? by Leofcwen · · Score: 1

    Who's to say these criminals (the Jihadis, not the banksters in this instance) are working for who they believe themselves to be? They could be working on the payroll of banksters or some shadowy government agency who want to create a 'reason' to pass legislation they can't pass without a tradegy taking place first...

  20. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Even the "underwear bomber" has now been positively outed as a US "intelligence" operation. Not that anyone is noticing that little story.

    The article to which you linked is about a separate incident (in 2012) from the original underwear bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, was not a CIA spy and very much intended to cause harm (in 2009).

  21. That film? Noobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, let's rage all over the Internet against an amateurist stupid, stupid film that nobody likes, and to make our point we'll attack banks and other miscellaneous financial institutions. Why? Because they funded and posted the film? Uh, no. Because they, well, have nothing to do with it but might complain to governments that also didn't fund or distribute the film? Because these governments will cave in and ban things, and that will totally prevent the film from spreading over the internet when they do?

    Idiots.

    A) why in multiple god's names would you think this would stop something from being spread all over the net? B) pick a *relevant* target, you idiots, C) don't you have anything better to rage against?

    Yes, let's all rage on the interwebs until we get a (divinely blessed) pony and as much (divinely blessed) chocolate as we can eat. These are a bunch of amateurs who don't understand the internet, politics, religion, or much else. Get a real job, cyber "terrorists".

  22. Paging captain obvious? by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

    People in the business of robbing banks have lots of money? You don't say! I wonder where they got it all from?

  23. Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Obviously it's "well funded" because it take billions of dollars for a bored schoolkid to leave LOIC running on his computer all day.

    LOL.

    1. Re:Funding by helobugz · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the exorbitant costs of shelter, food, electricity/internet for a handful of non-employed cyber-savvy jihadist militants with nothing but boredom and vengeance on their minds. In an Islamic setting, a few $ can buy a lot of hacking time. In western cultures, I don't know about all ya'll, but I have to work full-time, and dedicating myself exclusively to crafting new attacks would indeed take $$$$$$..

    2. Re:Funding by kmoser · · Score: 1

      Some people will do anything for the lulz.

  24. Cyber.. by GigaBurglar · · Score: 1

    No hacker worth their salt would use that word. In fact - I've only ever heard that word being put to use in three places - the first is obvious for anyone who used a chat room in the late 90's.. the remaining two? Hollywood and the media - coincidence? It's not about who is losing out - it's about who really gains.

  25. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by buchner.johannes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Terrorism is the act of inducing fear into a society, to the point that individuals don't feel safe anymore.

    You can, online, destroy the trust of people into banks, stalling any transactions because of fear/uncertainty. Without the loss of life.

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    NB: The message above might reflect my opinion right now, but not necessarily tomorrow or next year.
  26. Cyber Snake Oil Salesmen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why do these scare-mongering articles always seem to quote people who have a vested interest in hawking products and services designed to combat "cyberterrorists" for governments and corporations?

  27. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Terrorism is the act of inducing fear into a society, to the point that individuals don't feel safe anymore.

    Which of course makes the most powerful terrorist organization in the world the US Government, which is happily facilitated by the media.

  28. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you stalk and harass apk?

  29. There are no Cyber-"Terrorists" by gweihir · · Score: 2

    Whenever a bureaucracy has nothing worthwhile to say (i.e. always), they turn to hyperbole. There are no cyber-terrorists. At most, these people are vandals, and they are not well-funded either as these attacks are cheap, get you press, but don't do any damage if the target has a minimal level of preparedness.

    --
    Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    1. Re:There are no Cyber-"Terrorists" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the Vandals were a Germanic tribe which did some real, vast military-style devastation during their time. When they were done with destruction, they set up their own state somewhere in the vicinity of modern-day Libya.

  30. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Funny

    I liked planet better. The planes just waited until the earth rotated the buildings into them.

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  31. $10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    $10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

    * POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!

    Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

    Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

    Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

    If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

    I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

    Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

    Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

    I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

    If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

    You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusiv

    1. Re:$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found him: http://images.wikia.com/dreamworks/images/b/bd/Kowalski.gif

  32. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You haven't figured it out yet? He IS apk!

  33. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I thought I was apk. I even killed the previous apk and drank his blood, just like he did to the apk before him -- isn't that how it works? That's what they said at orientation.

  34. Stock Market Short???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Am wondering how much you think cyber profiteers could make by taking down a few major financial institutes for a couple of days? Does the market care about large consumer data breaches?? I realize if you hold too much of short position the goverment will realize it was you. But if your time it during a time when there are other reasons to be on the short side am thinking you could profit immensely with relatively minor suspicion.

  35. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BS. Your post completely misrepresents the information. There were two underwear bomber attack plans. The first one was unsuccessful and the guy ended up in jail. The second one, an informant volunteered to do the deed and instead turned the device over before going into an airport. He didn't get on a plane and try to detonate it in an attempt to scare the public into accepting new laws.

  36. Coincidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Increased spending on "Cyberwarfare defence" also increase these kinds of attacks?

  37. I wonder... by capebretonsux · · Score: 2

    This attack will continue till the Erasing of that nasty movie.

    ...if they'd be so kind as to add the Star Wars prequels to their list.

  38. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Insightful

    WTF is a Cyber Terrorist?

    It's the working title of our next Hollywood blockbuster, along the lines of Argo and Zero Dark Thirty. Propaganda at its very best. You just can't argue with success.

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  39. If only we could convince... by unitron · · Score: 1

    ...the cyber-fundamentalists that North Korea is behind that movie.

    I mean, they're godless communists, right?

    --

    I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  40. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by http · · Score: 1

    Uh, wait. +5? Here's a hint, mods: buy a dictionary if your OS doesn't come with one installed. Read it more than one minute per week, and not just for words you have not seen before. buchner.johannes, nice troll. It is factually incorrect, but looks plausible, so you get double points.

    --
    If opportunity came disguised as temptation, one knock would be enough.
    3^2 * 67^1 * 977^1
  41. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

    The Underwear Bomber? this guy? Why is he still in prison?

  42. Sounds like a good excuse to use a drone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quickly, we are getting DDoS launch the drones!

  43. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Though useful one should not limit their perceptions of the meaning of words merely by what is in the dictionary. Words are ever changing and oft used in multiple ways. One can be extremely educated and skilled in their use but still appreciate an insightful comment by the village idiot, unless of course one's views are prejudiced in too great a manner towards the person or their choice and application of words.

    There is neither an academic nor an international legal consensus regarding the definition of the term "terrorism". Various legal systems and government agencies use different definitions of "terrorism". Moreover, the international community has been slow to formulate a universally agreed upon, legally binding definition of this crime. These difficulties arise from the fact that the term "terrorism" is politically and emotionally charged.

  44. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by rtfa-troll · · Score: 2

    Terrorism is the act of inducing fear into a society, to the point that individuals don't feel safe anymore.

    You can, online, destroy the trust of people into banks, stalling any transactions because of fear/uncertainty. Without the loss of life.

    Bullshit. Terrorism specifically involves violent acts towards civilians or military groups not currently involved in a war. Normally killing them in visible and public ways such as bombings.

    Cyber-terrorism can be perfectly reasonably defined; things like: taking over train control systems and inducing the trains to crash into each other; opening dam flood gates and killing people; reprogramming medical systems to kill patients etc. etc.

    People losing trust in banks which get broken into is called "good commercial sense". People publicising such attacks should be seen as "public spirited" given that they could just take the money and run.

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    =~ s,(.*),<sarcasm>$1</sarcasm>,g if any_point_you_wish();
  45. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes you heard right and i know where you live your blood will quench my thirst soon apk

  46. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think you have what it takes to become apk? You're ten years too early to defeat me.

  47. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Patsy takes fall. News at 11.

    --
    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
  48. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Case in point:

    Compare
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/semitic

    To
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti%20semitic

  49. It's A Class Project: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Quote: ""It's not that these are the most sophisticated things in the world," he explained, "but it has been getting more sophisticated, and it's growing.""

    That doesn't sound like a class project to you? Let them carry on. It's Educational; good practice.

    When the students practicing in the project are well enough trained, they will be able to qualify for work Visas and will be able to come to the U.S. Companies who can't find "as qualified" candidates coming out of U.S. schools (at least who will work for as little).

    We need Cyber-Terror 101, 102 and 103, et seq. courses in our U.S, tech schools! That's what we need. Call your Congressman!

  50. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Psyborgue · · Score: 2

    I think you are confusing the two underwear bombers. The second was an agent. He volunteered so the plot would be stopped and handed the bomb over. What was the CIA supposed to do? Out one of their agents? Now I don't trust the government and agree airport security is nuts, but that doesn't mean there aren't constant plots to kill Americans.

  51. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I thought I was apk.

    I was the Walrus - Paul wasn't the Walrus!
    I was just saying that to be nice, but I was actually the Walrus!

  52. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

    "Believe us. Now that you caught us, we only ran the ONE fake-terror op. We aren't involved in manufacturing the others, and we have a professional code of ethics against lying."

    --
    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
  53. Sure they are. by Nyder · · Score: 1

    but who wants to be well funded is the government force against them.

    --
    Be seeing you...
  54. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by Psyborgue · · Score: 2

    But it wasn't a fake terror op. As I see it, an undercover agent foiled a plot by volunteering and then surrendering. Nobody was "caught" other than in the sense an undercover operative was recklessly outed by the NYT. This was not a "false flag" attack or anything of the sort. Had an intelligence operative not volunteered, there would have been an actual terror attack, as there was just two years prior in 2009 that very nearly resulted in loss of life. As a result of what the agent did, lives were saved and nobody was ever in danger, as Obama said (and if you've read any of my posts, you'll no i'm hardly an Obama fan, nor was I of his predecessor, bush. As much as I like transparency, when it endangers intelligence operatives, it's not a good thing. There are instances where secrecy is a necessary thing, and when it comes to interfering with plots against the United States, it's a necessary thing. I realize how sometimes the government has cried wolf so many times and lied about so many things that it's hard to take any of their claims seriously, but sometimes there actually is a wolf.

  55. Tax Havens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear hackers: please attack banks in Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Netherlands Antilles, Panama, Hong Kong, Ireland, Lebanon, Liberia, Panama, Singapore, and Switzerland too. Thanks.

  56. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by Weezul · · Score: 1

    So the US DOJ is a terrorist organization because they intimidate suspects? Heck they're at least using the threat of violence.

    Actually, you're claim doesn't make anywhere near that much sense. Fear is not lose of confidence.

    You lose almost all credibility when you apply the word terrorist to any non-violent activity. If you want to keep that credibility, you should either work around using the word terrorism by saying stuff like "confidence" or else try to invent some phrase like non-violent terrorism that exposes your bullshit.

    --
    The Christian religion has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world. -- Bertrand Russell
  57. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moral equivalence ! Also known as the idea that stoning women and mining oil is the same : they're "both bad", and there really isn't any more to say on the subject than that. This absurd pseudo-atheist Jacobian standard must die (The Jacobins were famous for their absolute standards of good and evil, and magnitude doesn't matter. Stealing a loaf of bread is evil and so is massacring a kindergarten, and they're really just the same thing. This is the same thing here).

    Of course in reality the problem is that there is tension between those who have an actual decent standard of good and evil versus the (majority) who just think right and wrong is whatever is convenient for them at the time. Accusing muslims of stoning women, starting wars and genocides as part of their religion, is the literal truth, confirmed by as many qurans, fatwas and historical events as anyone could possibly need, but it's also very likely to have real consequences when you say that. In reality this moral equivalence is nothing more than taking the opinion that's least likely to get you beat up. And the American government thinks you have rights ... muslims think that killing anyone who merely doubts them or otherwise creates any tiny problem for them should be tortured first, then murdered. They have historically done that on a large scale, and even though they can't kill anyone in the US, they can still threaten.

    The sad part is that we have tolerance for grand speak about justice from those who are simply defending bullies.

  58. What A Bunch of Goofy Wack Jobs by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    I'm chuckling currently of the "dim lits" currently DDOS'ing Wells Fargo,(where I bank). No one at W.t.F is even staying late to assess these clowns next "scarey" move. A source at W.t.F comment was, "Ya, we gotta an app for that."

  59. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by Sabriel · · Score: 1

    Moral equivalence ! Also known as the idea that stoning women and mining oil is the same : they're "both bad", and there really isn't any more to say on the subject than that. This absurd pseudo-atheist Jacobian standard must die (The Jacobins were famous for their absolute standards of good and evil, and magnitude doesn't matter. Stealing a loaf of bread is evil and so is massacring a kindergarten, and they're really just the same thing. This is the same thing here).

    Ironic, and not in the funny way, that you should mention stealing a loaf of bread. In 1997, an American citizen was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison for stealing a loaf of bread, and only released after serving 13 of those years due to an appeal by Stanford Law School's Three Strikes Project. His previous two convictions were in the previous decade before that, stealing a purse and trying to rob a man on the street, neither involving weapons or violence. The country that imprisoned him? The United States. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/17/gregory-taylor-homeless-m_n_684828.html

    And if you might be hoping the above has to be some kind of "exception to the rule", I'm sorry, read this one: http://www.eurasiareview.com/29032013-you-have-the-right-to-remain-silent-the-united-police-states-of-america-oped/

    That by and large I like the Americans I've met and talked with, makes me all the sadder that their government has turned - and continues to turn - oppressive and violent. Yeah, you guys aren't Evil. But you've been "paving the road with good intentions", and America never seems to be one for doing anything by halves when it could shake the world instead. Well, consider us shaken.

  60. Re: WTF is a Cyber Terrorist? by chrismcb · · Score: 1

    You can, online, destroy the trust of people into banks, stalling any transactions because of fear/uncertainty. Without the loss of life.

    So wouldn't most spam and phishing attacks be called "cyber-terrorism?" Oh it isn't.... What about run of the mill bank robbers? Why is an "attack" that most people don't even know it exists, be cyber-terrorist? Ohh because it isn't.
    They are a bunch of thieves. Plain and simple.

  61. Post the video everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone should be posting the video as much as possible

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  63. war has changed by tipografialeone · · Score: 1

    war and terrorism in my opinion are now changed ... the economic attacks in Europe are a clear demonstration that these methods are more effective than any bomb. Without taking into account the damage that it can cause a massive computer attack on any structure, company or even country.

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    http://www.tipografialeone.net
  64. Re:"Cyber-Terrorists?" Really? by strikethree · · Score: 1

    When he learned of a newly-designed explosive device meant to be pass undetected through airport security to take down a U.S.-bound airliner, the informant volunteered for the mission and was given the device, which he then handed over to U.S. officials.

    The underwear bomber in the article that you linked was NEVER a bomber or terrorist to begin with. He was an informant. The bomb was NOT a plot to sow the seeds of terror amongst the general public, it was the delivery of intelligence.

    Is this "underwear bomber" the same one that was actually trying to blow up an airplane on its way from Amsterdam to America? What the fuck?

    --
    "Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen