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Indian Supreme Court Denies Novartis Cancer Drug Patent

beltsbear writes "Following a reasonable view of drug patents, the Indian courts have decided that making small changes to an existing patented drug are not worthy of a new patent. This ruling makes way for low cost Indian cancer drugs that will save lives. From the Article: 'Novartis lost a six-year legal battle after the court ruled that small changes and improvements to the drug Glivec did not amount to innovation deserving of a patent. The ruling opens the way for generic companies in India to manufacture and sell cheap copies of the drug in the developing world and has implications for HIV and other modern drugs too.'"

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  1. It's a good thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    A 30 day supply of 400mg tabs of Gleevec (imatinib sulfate) runs a lil over 6 thousand dollars. That's right, 6k a month to keep patients with CML, HES and certain stomach cancers alive. It's gone up over 2 thousand a month in the last 3 years alone.

    If you have insurance, good insurance, you might pay around 50 bucks of that a month. Without insurance, you get to use prednisone til it or the cancer kills you.

    Way to go pharmaceutical companies... and do you really think they are working on a cure when they can rake in thousands of dollars a month from each and every cancer patient??? Yeah right... think again... If they understand the cancer well enough to halt it in it's tracks for 90 to 95% of the patients that are treatable by this drug, and another 90 to 95 of those that take it are alive and in full remission 5+ years later, they certainly know enough to track down a cure if they were so inclined to do so.

    Greedy bastards...

    1. Re:It's a good thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Oh and the numbers I gave are based on the U.S. Dollar, inside the United States.

      I've been in remission for over 3 years thanks to Gleevec, but it still sucks that they (Novartis) push for profiteering over saving lives.

    2. Re:It's a good thing... by sFurbo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      do you really think they are working on a cure when they can rake in thousands of dollars a month from each and every cancer patient??? Yeah right... think again...

      I would expect all of the other drug companies to also want a piece of that pie. That means they have to come up with something that works better.

      If they understand the cancer well enough to halt it in it's tracks for 90 to 95% of the patients that are treatable by this drug, and another 90 to 95 of those that take it are alive and in full remission 5+ years later, they certainly know enough to track down a cure if they were so inclined to do so.

      Greedy bastards...

      You are vastly, massively underestimating the complexity of cancer and of the human biology.

    3. Re:It's a good thing... by black6host · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh and the numbers I gave are based on the U.S. Dollar, inside the United States.

      I've been in remission for over 3 years thanks to Gleevec, but it still sucks that they (Novartis) push for profiteering over saving lives.

      I'm happy to hear you're in remission, even though I don't know you personally.

      You know, we have no problems taking peoples property under eminent domain for the "good of the people". There was a business owner where I used to live who was forced to sell his property to the local gov't because they needed to turn it into a parking lot to support the major retail center across the street. The reason put forth: the additional tax revenue would benefit the public. Of course the builder of this retail/hotel/restaurant center stood to profit the most and I am confident was the one who persuaded the city to take the property with the thought of increased revenue. Bastard.

      I'd like to see eminent domain apply to drugs that would help save, or greatly prolong the lives of many people. That makes sense to me. But it's not the big companies who get screwed.....

  2. Re:Innovation by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only good patent is an expired patent.

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  3. Huh? by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This doesn't make sense to me. If they make a small change, the small change should be patentable -- but that should in no way effect the extent of the patent on the original formulation. In other words, patenting the small change shouldn't stop anybody from copying the original drug. And if the "small change" actually makes a real difference in effectiveness, isn't that an argument that it _should_ be patentable?

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  4. Re:The morality of the pharmaceutical companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This bullshit has gone on for long enough. Most of the actual research whose fruits end up as drugs are often made by researchers with federal funding. The actual amount of money put into research is much lower than what Pharma wants us to believe, and often R&D involves a significant amount of activities unconnected with Research. Hence, you will be unable to find actual cost of research for any pharma company - inspite of all the financial documents available for the public firms.

    High risk and high reward is a again a bit of an overkill considering that most of the research dollars are spent on coming up with new compounds/drugs which are barely more effective than the medicines they replace. These new drugs are significantly more expensive than the drugs they replace and accompanied by huge marketing campaigns that increase pressure on the doctors by the patients clamoring for the new drug.

      In addition they keep coming up with small changes to existing compounds and re-patent it .. thus circumventing the very process which they seem to talk so much about. Even when 'evergreening' does not work, they try to involve the generic manufacturer into drawn out legal process. Again - all this inspite of the 1984 Hatch-Waxman act which pushes the patent during out to make up for time spent in research before the actual drug is released.

    Considering the Pharma industry has spent over $2.1B in lobbying alone (for stuff like faster approvals, no volume pricing negotiations for Medicare etc.) .. I think it is one of the most corrupt industries in USA>

  5. Re:Huh? by sjames · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 'technicality' is that drugs were not eligible for patent under their law at the time.

  6. Re:The morality of the pharmaceutical companies by bfandreas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Problem is this practice is a bit more widespread than just one drug. It's called "evergreening". You take a drug, you make a minute change to it, you tell everybody its fresh&new&patent plx!
    India said no to that. They said that Novartis had its run of the full duration of patent protection and that it wouldn't be fooled.
    Also Novartis does bill patients thousands of dollars per month for this particular drug. Which is extortionist. A little bit competition is more than just a little bit needed.

    The big news is India said no while Europe and the US said yes.

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  7. Good news - now Novartis will make generics :-) by bayankaran · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now, NOVARTIS will start making generics.

    Generic drugs made by third parties are sorely needed by non G8 nations across the world. Indian companies are the leaders in making generics....like Chinese companies in making electronics / hardware. The argument of multinationals pharma companies like NOVARTIS claims the high cost of R & D for inventing new drugs for keeping up the high price. This has been debunked by the report on TIME (and many other sources) which proved the same drug or treatments costs vary highly depending on who pays. And such costs are amortized from G8 nations itself. Also none of these companies are making any losses in their balance sheet whatsoever...what they demand is permanent 'rent seeking'.

    Today's TIME has an OPED by their Delhi correspondent with grave warnings on future of Indian pharma - the type of warnings issued by World Bank / IMF / West on Developing countries - basically on the lines on "do as I say, not as I do". I guess NOVARTIS marketing droids called TIME headquarters and asked them to run a sympathetic piece. We are talking about a company with $54 billion sales and $9 billion plus profit in 2012! Imagine their power. And now imagine the 'purported losses' on a few drugs going out of patent in developing countries - it will be negligible at best.

    There is no way any Indian - except for the 2-3% of the elite - can afford a $2600 ~ Rs 130000 / - cost for a month long treatment. This is a country with no health social safety net other than public medical colleges and affordable primary health care facilities and medicines. (Private Health Insurance is a new phenomenon, slowly catching on, the advantages and disadvantages we know...we have to look at USA.)

    The only argument which can be made against Indian generics - "if you can't afford the drug, why don't you suffer the consequences". I guess even the most hard nosed penny pinching corporate drone is not THAT heartless.

    Instead of fighting the generic manufacturers, NOVARTIS should create their own special generic versions and beat them on a price point. But the suits running the show looked at some powerpoint and decided, lets first fight, if we lose start making generics.

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  8. Re:Innovation by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They seem to understand "My right to live trumps your supposed 'right' to make money" pretty damned well, though.

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  9. Re:Innovation by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ibid.. That argument has been debunked a long time ago. Those millions aren't going where you think they are.

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  10. Re:Innovation by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...it really does cost hundreds of millions of dollars...

    Yes, because it's closed market. The regulations are designed to make it too expensive to compete. It is the epitome of 'crony capitalism'. And the whole process is done behind closed doors. That must end. However none of this is going to happen until we stop reelecting company politicians who appoint company bureaucrats. And furthermore, the efficacy and safety of many of today's pharmaceuticals are highly dubious. We can do much better if we demand some transparency at the very least. Make them open the books. There should be nothing to prevent the government from hiring scientists to create drugs also. Let's give these companies some real competition. Put our tax dollars to work for us for a change, instead of subsidizing the industry.

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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  11. Re:Innovation by Xeno+man · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It means R&D will be spend on NEW medicine. Much less will be spent on slightly improving existing medicine. You do know the R&D stands for research and design. They would have to do some NEW research.

    Financially it makes much more sense to take your existing product, make it slightly stronger or last slightly longer and file for a new patent and basically double your patent length.