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The RFP and IT Logistics For Washington's "Pot Czar"

Posted by Soulskill on from the not-the-best-resume-builder dept.

Esther Schindler writes "Last fall, the state of Washington passed a marijuana legalization referendum, and needed to acquire an outside consultant to run the program. 'As it normally does, the state put out a request for proposal for a consultant to run the new legal marijuana program,' writes Ron Miller. 'As word leaked out that there was an RFP open for what essentially was a "pot czar," the floodgates opened. It would be the most popular RFP in the state's history. The Liquor Control Board needed a way to process these requests quickly and cheaply.' In a typical RFP scenario, they would get maybe half a dozen responses. This one got close to 100. Miller writes about the cloud workflow required to solve the task: 'He chose these particular tools because they all had open APIs, which allowed him to mash them together easily into the solution. They were easy to use, so reviewers could learn the system with little or no training, and they were mobile, so users could access the system from any device. In particular he wanted reviewers to be able to use the system on a tablet.' I suppose this could have been written about more mundane RFPs, but I bet you'll find this more interesting than most."

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  1. Probably not just about pot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I imagine this was so popular because of the chance to run a pot legalization program as a consultant. This would be a multi-year job, but Washington State will likely not be the last state to implement this. The consultancy who wins this bid can then bid to help other states in the future, with the only credible claim of reliable experience with this issue. Being the winner of this project would be akin to striking oil.

    1. Re:Probably not just about pot by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I can't help but think that the pot business now is something like the Internet was circa about 1991. There was a sense it was going to be a big deal and there was going to be a lot of money made, but nobody quite knew how to do it right away.

      And like the Internet, I'll be looking back 20 years from now amazed at how much money has been made off it and how it's universally accepted, just like the Internet.

    2. Re:Probably not just about pot by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2

      "There was a sense it was going to be a big deal and there was going to be a lot of money made, but nobody quite knew how to do it right away."

      I think it's pretty obvious that a lot of people still don't know how to do it.

    3. Re:Probably not just about pot by pspahn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Indeed. A friend of mine interviewed with a local dispensary (Colorado) a couple of weeks ago, she would be doing the books.

      Granted, this is a medial dispensary, and not the type of "pot shop" that would come as the result of legalization, but I imagine the two won't be far off...

      So, as I was saying, she interviewed and, since she's smart, she was asking specific questions about how they operate. Apparently, part of her job would involved making cash deposits to the bank via an ATM at the mall. Yes. That's how they are doing it right now... cash deposits to an ATM at the mall.

      The ATM in this case belongs to Bank of America, and they are chosen for the account precisely because they do not have a presence in Colorado (other than ATMs). I'm not really sure the rest of the details, but it is clear that there are plenty of methods, especially in regards to how dispensaries run their finances, that need to be refined.

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    4. Re:Probably not just about pot by swb · · Score: 3, Informative

      There was a story about this exact kind of thing on NPR's Planet Money:

      http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/12/04/166514067/episode-420-the-legal-marijuana-business

      They talk to legitimate business people trying to run a dispensary and handling money is a huge problem for them. It's almost nearly impossible to get a commercial bank account and really complicated to try to run it on a cash basis. The banks are paranoid because its illegal at a Federal level and there's all kinds of ways for the Feds make pain -- money laundering laws, revoking Federal bank charters, seizing assets, and so forth. Suppliers, landlords, employees, the government, customers -- everybody wants to get paid and cash is really clumsy and sometimes not an option.

      And of course, they want to be consumer friendly and take plastic, but good luck without banking. I may be remembering this wrong, but they use the gimmick of the low-rent cash machine which will also do purchases-as-cash-advance-for-a-fee so credit card users can "buy" without a cash advance from the credit card company's perspective.

      At the end of the day, a pot dispensary should be no different than any other specialty retailer -- doing payroll mostly electronically with printed checks for those who want them, a line of credit at the bank, and various accounts to park cash in or fund check writing, and taking all the usual plastic money from customers.

    5. Re:Probably not just about pot by symbolset · · Score: 2

      I must be a fairly unusual individual because I don't care for pot. Yes, I've tried it many times over 30 years, but apparently it doesn't work for me like it works for other people because I don't find the experience at all pleasurable. Maybe I'm disabled in some way. I don't have a problem with other people liking it or using it and I never did. I think it should be legal. It's just not for me.

      That said, of all the people I know well enough to know if they use pot (or something equally illegal), almost all of them do. It's always been that way. Now that I live in a state where it's legal random acquaintances and even strangers are trying to push the stuff on me like I've never seen it before and just need to be convinced to join their club. Look at me. I have grey hair. I am obviously from the '60s. Are you stupid?

      Yeah, I get it. It's legal now. Party time. Woohoo! Knock yourself out. You got a beer?

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    6. Re:Probably not just about pot by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Portugal did it, and they have the single largest body of people in rehab of any country on Earth now

      You say that as if it's a bad thing. Portugal shifted from regarding drug addiction as a crime to regarding it as a medical condition, and now they have the largest number of people with this condition receiving treatment. And you think this is bad? Meanwhile, the USA has the largest number of people of any country in the world (more than the USSR at its height) in prisons. The majority of these are for drug-related offences. How's that working out as an alternative?

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  2. That was harder than it should have been... by Daetrin · · Score: 2

    They actually used "request for proposal" in the blurb before they started throwing "RFP" all over the place, but because of the lack of capitalization it still took me a minute or two to figure out =P

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    1. Re:That was harder than it should have been... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      I'm a Canadian and the acronym RFP is used here as well. Judging by a quick search it's also uses in the UK (ie. http://www.jisc.ac.uk/fundingopportunities/funding_calls/2012/07/goldoa.aspx ).

        What we can thus gather from this is that you're an ignorant fucking retard.

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  3. Huh? This was a problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Receiving less than a hundred proposals was a problem? Reading simple documents on a tablet and submitting responses was a problem? I fail to see how this required anything more than email and a simple spreadsheet, database, or website.

  4. 100?? by 2.7182 · · Score: 2

    So big deal, 100... It is not uncommon for a science dept at a university to get 400 applications for a tenure track position.

    1. Re:100?? by Nyder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, 100 applicants? Fucking out of this world. Hell ya, dude, dude!!!!! I got the greatest fucking idea of all time. Quit camping on the bowl, give me a hit. Thanks dude.... What were we talking about? No, I hadn't seen the that cat video, no, dude, wait, the Pot Czar applications. You get them all in a room, and smoke out. Fuck ya, dude, I'm talking smoke out of the century. The last app standing gets the job. Fuck I'm a genius. WTF dude? don't spill the bong...

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    2. Re:100?? by jspoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So big deal, 100... It is not uncommon for a science dept at a university to get 400 applications for a tenure track position.

      Or even as many as 420.

  5. $7800 by hawguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Did they really need to create a $7800 (not including license fees) RFP review system when there were only 100 applicants? And now the company that was paid to create it is selling it to other agencies.

    1. Re:$7800 by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Did they really need to create a $7800 (not including license fees) RFP review system when there were only 100 applicants? And now the company that was paid to create it is selling it to other agencies."

      My thought too. Looks like Washington is not immune from the typical State bureaucracy syndrome. My guess would be that at least 80% of the responses would weed themselves out in the first couple of paragraphs, which might take maybe a day to go through.

      The rest might need more thorough vetting, but hell, that's only 20.

    2. Re:$7800 by turp182 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can it be used for all future RFP requests? Do the users like it better (more convenient, easier)?

      For $7,800, that would be incredible ($10,000 limit I understand, not much for such a project in my opinion). Think about what corporations spend on small IT projects (internally or externally developed).

      I'm assuming the developer was familiar with all of the tools and already had ample experience piecing them together. The time frame makes it so.

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    3. Re:$7800 by cffrost · · Score: 2

      [...] 80% of the responses would weed themselves out [...]

      Heh... Nicely done. :o)

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  6. RFP Request For Pot by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Where can I score?

    4 & 7

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  7. potczar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's a tag now, forever in slashdot. For potczar.

  8. Lazy by Khyber · · Score: 2

    You're telling me these people couldn't be bothered to personally read all 100 or so applications?

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    1. Re:Lazy by foniksonik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      An RFP for a complicated consulting job can be 50 pages long or more with additional addendums and appendixes.

      I wrote an RFP for a project with a medical device company and it was 30+ pages.

      These are dense pages also. We're basically talking about a draft project plan or business plan. Milestones, deliverables, ROI calculations, tables of data, lists of requirements, software, hardware, etc

      100 applications would be at minimum 1000 pages of details.

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  9. Wonder if the position is drug tested? by Nyder · · Score: 2

    That would be very funny. You'd have to past a drug test to be the Pot Czar. =)

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  10. They've already selected their "pot czar" by JDG1980 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This wasn't mentioned in the article or the summary, but Washington State has apparently already completed the selection process. The contract was awarded to BOTEC Analysis, a consulting firm run by drug policy analyst and blogger Mark Kleiman. You can watch a CNN interview with Kleiman here. Kleiman's blog posts on drug policy are archived here.